Topic: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated. - page 31. (Read 89535 times)

What facts are you missing?

Betcoin confiscated 7 BTC from KGambler for what they called bonus abuse. KGamber had civilized communications with Betcoin. When Betcoin didn't pay, KGambler took it to the forum. Both sides posted their story. The posters then stated their opinions and KGambler was paid. That's the way it should work.

bplayer threatened Anonibet with his first post The purpose of this thread is not to threaten books. We are all here for the benefit of the players. We try to help them get paid and the ratings serve as a guide to help players determine where they will play. It's unfortunate that bplayer made a threat in post #1. Anonibet is in a situation now where they can't give in. I wish that this thread could work in a similar fashion as KGamler/Bercoin, but it's too late for that.

When gogo posted why Anonibet should change their 5% rule, Anonibet reconsidered and the rule was changed. When Anonibet overpaid Bitcoinzrulez 15 BTC, Bitcoinzrulez was the first to bring it to the forums. Prior to Bitcoinzrulez paying the 15 BTC back, Anonibet took full responsibility and stated that Bitcoinzrulez was not a scammer.

We don't even have all the facts of the bplayer/Anonibet case. Anonibet posted that bplayer is a long time player and this is his first problem. Due to the way bplayer handled this case, all the facts aren't going to come out. I can't see how a downgrade would be justified. In the future, I hope that players take the KGambler approach. This way the player, book and posters can all have input in one thread.

We do not use Bettingpromotion. Our provider is one of the biggest in Europe.

Both companies – Anonibet andcloudbet use one and the same outsourced sports betting solution (Bettingpromotion). Therefore, if one company delays the resulting, it will be 100% delayed with the other company too. Betting promotion offers a cheap product (2,5K per month and you are a bookie), which is a limited offer, but it does work. By the way, apart from the above companies this solution is used by a few more bitcoin-bookies. That is why, unfortunately, users have a rather limited choice. Given the above, if I had to choose between Anonibet and Cloudbet, I would prefer Cloudbet – the product is the same, but prices are much better.
I placed bets with all bitcoin-bookies. Due to various reasons I kept only two bookies. Neither Anonibet nor cloudbet are among them.

Agree with alabamafan1

I have to say as my first day trying out new books, cloudbet and anonibet are insanely slow to grade my wagers. It's been hours and both books have my bets pending. I checked the FAQ section and both state within minutes except on exotic crap.

If I ever bet early games and wanted to bet west coast stuff I'd be shit out of luck at this rate.


"How long does it take for the bets to be settled?
We settle all the bets and pay, as soon as we can confirm the outcomes of the events. This usually takes a few minutes for most events. But sometimes in exotic sports or leagues the time to confirm the results might take longer. Anonibet aims to settle all the bets as soon as possible."

Weak.  No other reputable book would have done this.  Bump them down.

Bitcoinzrulez is looking for books with higher limits.

Nitrogensports has stated that their exchange should be ready in a "few weeks".

Michael, feel free to disclose our whole conversation if you will. From the very start I wanted to be clear that I will make our dispute public unless I'm satisfied. Micheal called that a threat, and he called me a blackmailer.

You accepted the bet, the odds seem reasonable, you should honor the bet. There is not a huge difference or obvious mistake here in the lines. This is your fault anonibet, not theirs, the lines you posted are not very different. Sad to see a book like this go this route, if you had made Lyon 1.40 or 1.55 then obvious error. 7.80 moneyline compared to 6.00 moneyline COME ON thats rediculous. You have won over 1 BTC off of me Anonibet and will get no more. Not going to use your book if you're going to be as sheepish with this line "error" as you are being. If he made threats against you, pay him, let him withdraw and ban him. Thats the sportsbook general policy accepted.

I am sure others and Peeps place will advise you to reconsider your decision as it is definitely wrong on your part to keep the decision you have made.

I do not want to disclose what we have talked privately but you have threatened us in your first email. I have responded straight away and told you to go ahead and post whatever you want you want on the forum because we hate being threatened. All bets on this match  ( loosing bets) have been canceled. This is our final say. You know better than anyone else that we are a fair bookmaker. You are a long time player, can you say how many times we have canceled any match?

Anonibet voided my bet on Lyon +1.5, played against PSG last weekend. The bet won, but anonibet voided it on the grounds of home/away teams being reversed. After I pointed out that the game was played on neutral venue, therefore there is no home and away team they stated there was also a mistake in the odds. During our email conversation they quoted the following:

Paris St Germain - Olympique Lyon
Paris Saint Germain 1.40
Draw 4.45
Olympique Lyonnais 7.80

Olympique Lyon - Paris St Germain
Olympique Lyonnais 6.00
Draw 4.00
Aladeen: Paris Saint Germain 1.55

The former being the odds they offered and the latter being the odds they wanted to have offered. I contested that there's no obvious error in the prices offered, they just failed to follow the market (as odds on PSG lengthened as kick off approached). They were unwilling to discuss this matter any further.

My bet was Lyon +1.5, at odds 1.7, which was very much in line with Pinnacle at the time I took it. Bet date: 15 Apr 2014 14:09:42 GMT.

Besides security, Legions is saying that we need a reason to play at the Cointeller network and I agree 100% that we do need a reason to switch. If you sign up at the Cointeller network, their support is good about helping to direct you to the book that may fill your needs. Some want horses, others want reduced juice, some want higher limits. It's different for all of us. A reduced juice baseball book is important to me. Opinionated football lines will also be important to me. That's what I will be personally looking for with the Cointeller network.

Did I say u were scammers? Maybe u come off scammy some but thats it. Your the one who needs to prove themselves here not me. I'm just pointing out some flaws from my side of view for everyone to see and understand before jumping in without knowing what they are getting into.
It does look good if u get some good bookmakers.

I'm not vouching for anyone here but there is at least one book with reduced juice on the Cointeller network for hoops. There's also a book with a 10 cent baseball line breaking at 170 or 180. I forget which book(s) since I just started looking at them but will report later.

Sharp post.  We are scammers by not offering bonuses or reduced juice?  I think have an optoin for you.  Have you considered asianconnect88?  They offer Pinnacle and SBObet.

I got similar answers to the same questions.  They offer a VPN service to anyone who signs up, so I don't think they really care where you are located.  

Of course I'm skeptical because I have personally read what some of your list of bookmakers have done to its customers, and it's beyond bad, I mean really bad by so many people at a time.
Also u don't even allow players to get rewarded with bonuses from your books which is total bs if u ask me, now we really have no reason to even risk playing with those books. Do u know how many places offer reduced juice and are safe? So why play with your books now, because of ease of moving around deposits but we have no added use or anything to entice us for this.

You sound slightly skeptical.   I understand that you don't have a great deal of faith in our roster of books.  If Cointeller.eu this was a scam, it is a truly horribly organized one.  We have not offered a single bonus to anyone and, by design, we have very small limits.  There is no incentive for anyone to keep substantial funds on deposit with us (no one trapped with rollover requirements, etc). Everything we have done so far, every decision made, is focused on slow, methodical growth and the development of trust in the Cointeller concept.

Sounds like they just added Bitcoin which makes sense as surely someone around these forums would have posted about them.

Hopefully we can find out more about them... seems very promising!