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Topic: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS since 2014 : KYC Rankings, Bonuses, Scam Accus - page 121. (Read 260326 times)

legendary
Activity: 1078
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What is "double spend"? How does this work?

Hungerstyle - what exactly are you accused of doing?


Did DirectBet change ownership?
I had some email contact a year or 2 ago with someone I assume was the owner. It was before "Michelle" I think her name is got involved posting for them, and he was the only one answering emails and posting.

(It would be helpful if sportsbook people who post would use a name each time rather than the company name for their handle, so we could refer to a specific poster).

Imo that guy's intention at that time was to run an upright book. Not to steal btc.
I know things and people can change, but I'd be very surprised if that's his intention now.

(I'm surprised also that they're taking 36 btc wagers - their limits used to be low).


Even if Directbet is out of line asking for a passport photo, I'd send my passport photo out all day long for 36 btc per send.
And then not do business there in the future if you were falsely accused.
legendary
Activity: 2716
Merit: 2093
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Not sure if Hungerstyle is innocent, but I am sure that Directbet is guilty of handling this situation very poorly.  Feel free to repost this wherever if anyone likes.



Last fall for about a month maybe 1 out of every 20 transactions from my electrum wallet  were showing up as double spends and it was completely unintentional (eventually realized i needed to update software)  There were no big problems because they were all involving individuals or sites that require 1 confirmation.  

In the end, one would confirm and the other was eventually deleted from the block chain.

If I had deposited on DirectBet, could I have ended up getting freerolled like Hungerstyle?

There are two still in my Betcoin transaction history with invalid transaction ids:

Have you tried to double-spend?
If yes and there are proves, everything seems legit (except you)

Does your comment reflect how BetBTC would handle a similar situation?
legendary
Activity: 2014
Merit: 1028
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Have you tried to double-spend?
If yes and there are proves, everything seems legit (except you)
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
Yes. I mean now finally after forum backlash they respond

They want me to send picture to stranger on internet. Agreement, in btc? MTGOX era?

With still no guarentee I will consider options.



I will post imgur later if any player care to see.







"Mon, May 23, 2016 at 4:12 PM
To:XXXXX>
Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Delete | Show original
Hi XXXXXX,

As we noted earlier, we are willing to return the coins that you attempted
to double spend as a goodwill gesture and provided that you agree not to do
it again.

To ensure that you fulfill your part of the deal we must sign an agreement
and verify your identity.

Please note that the identity verification is required as otherwise the
agreement is worthless and can not be enforced. We therefore require a photo

copy of your passport before we can proceed.

Best Regards,
--
DirectBet - LIVE Sports Betting with Bitcoins !

http://www.DirectBet.eu
-----Original Message-----"

legendary
Activity: 3934
Merit: 1061
DirectBet confiscated 36 BTC claiming the player attempted to double spend. DirectBet will not return the funds unless the player provides a copy of his passport.

https://imgur.com/a/qn6gF






Yes I consider lost cause.

I buy btc bet and lose cash + coin. They probably sweating heat.


As stated in the email they ignore. They claim double spend after nadal loses 1st set but TXID they provide as the DS has input that is spent  24 hours + before match even started. Spent input proves both that tx came long before nadal and what they claim as a hack was never valid tx that could confirm


They ignore support email and I provide all screens & co operation.

Probably misunderstanding on DB half but as of writing this they have still not responded to email support since "Thu, May 19, 2016 at 4:23 PM"  

Their forum people just say "Management is looking into it"  and bury with their promo posts.

End of day small potatoes but serious players proabbly should look to another book

This is the second time that DirectBet has confiscated funds. 36 BTC is a substantial amount for a book to take from a player. A top book isn't going to steal 36 BTC from a player. Keep us updated.
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
DirectBet confiscated 36 BTC claiming the player attempted to double spend. DirectBet will not return the funds unless the player provides a copy of his passport.

https://imgur.com/a/qn6gF


https://i.imgur.com/MBMII4H.png



Yes I consider lost cause.

I buy btc bet and lose cash + coin. They probably sweating heat.


As stated in the email they ignore. They claim double spend after nadal loses 1st set but TXID they provide as the DS has input that is spent  24 hours + before match even started. Spent input proves both that tx came long before nadal and what they claim as a hack was never valid tx that could confirm


They ignore support email and I provide all screens & co operation.

Probably misunderstanding on DB half but as of writing this they have still not responded to email support since "Thu, May 19, 2016 at 4:23 PM"  

Their forum people just say "Management is looking into it"  and bury with their promo posts.

End of day small potatoes but serious players proabbly should look to another book
legendary
Activity: 3934
Merit: 1061
Sportsbet.io to open June 10th.

It's not a good sign to see this type of offer from a new book.

Quote
To celebrate the official opening, we are raffling 2 EURO 2016 final game tickets among all pre-registered members, while there will also be only 1 lucky winner who gets the ultimate prize - the amazing trip package to France, the country to host this year’s EURO Championship. Others will have a chance to win various BTC prizes during EURO 2016 events, with the total prize pool amounting to the jaw-dropping 300 BTC.
legendary
Activity: 3934
Merit: 1061
DirectBet temporarily taken down from the rating's guide.

"A" rated books
nitrogensports.eu A+ (2012)

"B"rated books
betcoinsports.com B+ (2013)
jetwin.ps B+ (2013)
bitcoinrush.io B (2013)

"C" rated books)
.betbtc.co C (2014)
cloudbet.com C (2013)
fairlay.com C (2014)
betmoose.com C- (2014)
olebitcoin.com C- (2013)*
predictious.com C- (2013)


"D" rated books
http://anonibet.com/  D+ (2011)
premiumtradings.com D+ (2014))

"F" rated books
Asianconnect F ....................accepting deposits but they have confiscated funds from multiple players.
Ball2Win F ..........................accepting deposits. They are under the same license as "F" book gobetgo
BetCas F ............................accepting deposits but they have confiscated funds from multiple players.
BTCBonusBook (2015).......... accepting deposits with no payout history.
Casinoco (2015)...................accepting deposits but not paying out all players.
Coindrafts F (2014)
Webetcoins F (2014
Bitbm F .............................accepting deposits but not paying out all players.
Bitcoinsport F
Bitcoinlivebets F
Coinbet F
Gobetgo F (2013)
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC F
Blockbet F
Bitbook F

NR
2bet.io (2016)
betinbtc.com
BetVIP - closed 6/12/15
bitcasino.io/sportsbook
coinbet24.com
lunarbets.eu
legendary
Activity: 3934
Merit: 1061
DirectBet confiscated 36 BTC claiming the player attempted to double spend. DirectBet will not return the funds unless the player provides a copy of his passport.

https://imgur.com/a/qn6gF


legendary
Activity: 3934
Merit: 1061
"A" rated books
nitrogensports.eu A+ (2012)

"B"rated books
betcoinsports.com B+ (2013)
jetwin.ps B+ (2013)
bitcoinrush.io B (2013)

"C" rated books)
directbet.eu C+ (2014)
.betbtc.co C (2014)
cloudbet.com C (2013)
fairlay.com C (2014)
betmoose.com C- (2014)
olebitcoin.com C- (2013)*
predictious.com C- (2013)


"D" rated books
http://anonibet.com/  D+ (2011)
premiumtradings.com D+ (2014))

"F" rated books
Asianconnect F ....................accepting deposits but they have confiscated funds from multiple players.
Ball2Win F ..........................accepting deposits. They are under the same license as "F" book gobetgo
BetCas F ............................accepting deposits but they have confiscated funds from multiple players.
BTCBonusBook (2015).......... accepting deposits with no payout history.
Casinoco (2015)...................accepting deposits but not paying out all players.
Coindrafts F (2014)
Webetcoins F (2014
Bitbm F .............................accepting deposits but not paying out all players.
Bitcoinsport F
Bitcoinlivebets F
Coinbet F
Gobetgo F (2013)
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC F
Blockbet F
Bitbook F

NR
2bet.io (2016)
betinbtc.com
BetVIP - closed 6/12/15
bitcasino.io/sportsbook
coinbet24.com
lunarbets.eu

legendary
Activity: 3934
Merit: 1061
Is it possible to have Anonibet as D- or something, like that , they have been sitting on my 12,2 BTC withdrawal for 17 hours now, and the support don't seem to care

They are currently a "D+". At one time Anonibet was a top book but they have really gone down hill. Keep us updated on your withdrawal.
newbie
Activity: 3
Merit: 0
Is it possible to have Anonibet as D- or something, like that , they have been sitting on my 12,2 BTC withdrawal for 17 hours now, and the support don't seem to care
legendary
Activity: 2014
Merit: 1028
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legendary
Activity: 3934
Merit: 1061
It seems that I do not see Vegascasino.io on your list I suggest you add www.vegascasino.io if you need more information I will give


That would be great if you could PM me information or post it. Thanks
legendary
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It seems that I do not see Vegascasino.io on your list I suggest you add www.vegascasino.io if you need more information I will give

legendary
Activity: 3934
Merit: 1061
lunarbets.eu refund 50% (almost all winnings) of my bets without any explanation. I bet a lot last 10 days, around 50 bets on 45 different events.

Withdrawals and deposit works (for now).
They refund and bets after the start of the event (of course only if your bet have a chance to win).

Over/Under bets is not use standard Asian handicap rules: for example - if you bet over or under 100 and the final result is 60-40 your bet will be loose (European handicap). For point speared they use standard Asian handicap rules (but this can be change immediately without any announcement).

For tennis point speared (+1.5/-1.5) some of odds are for set handicap some are for games handicap. lunarbets.eu will decide after the finish of the event. Stay away from this site.

D-- or F is my rating for lunarbets.eu 
 

Can you post a couple examples of bets that were canceled? Did they give reasons for the cancellations?
newbie
Activity: 10
Merit: 0
lunarbets.eu refund 50% (almost all winnings) of my bets without any explanation. I bet a lot last 10 days, around 50 bets on 45 different events.

Withdrawals and deposit works (for now).
They refund and bets after the start of the event (of course only if your bet have a chance to win).

Over/Under bets is not use standard Asian handicap rules: for example - if you bet over or under 100 and the final result is 60-40 your bet will be loose (European handicap). For point speared they use standard Asian handicap rules (but this can be change immediately without any announcement).

For tennis point speared (+1.5/-1.5) some of odds are for set handicap some are for games handicap. lunarbets.eu will decide after the finish of the event. Stay away from this site.

D-- or F is my rating for lunarbets.eu 
 
legendary
Activity: 1078
Merit: 1000
Any problems with a book?

Yeah,  cloudbet limits are now in ridiculous category.      (NBA  under 0.3 BTC , all other between :  0.01-0.05 BTC)

I think cloudbet is D now.

I can give access to my account. Feel free to test it. Wink  (with an account balance 0.3 BTC)

It seems they cut you back sbrzol. I just checked and for the Blazers and also Raptors ML they're willing to risk 4.7 - 5.0k USD.

KC MLB overnite ML they'll risk $695 USD.

This of course doesn't mean the bet will go thru, based on problems many have when trying to make a bet.

I have not actually made these bets, but that's what the bet slip is telling me is the max bet for the above.
legendary
Activity: 2338
Merit: 1122
Cloudbet | Best Bitcoin Gambling Site Since 2013
Any problems with a book?

Yeah,  cloudbet limits are now in ridiculous category.      (NBA  under 0.3 BTC , all other between :  0.01-0.05 BTC)

I think cloudbet is D now.

I can give access to my account. Feel free to test it. Wink  (with an account balance 0.3 BTC)
I believe you and those limits are awful.

Our limits are much, much higher than that. Can you pop me your email address so I can look into your account?

Cheers
Cloudbet
legendary
Activity: 3934
Merit: 1061
It seems that we will be the arrival of the new sports betting sites as provided in my signature www.sportsbet.io
but this site will work in June later I predicted this site will become one of the major sites in bitcointalk I will report on the performance of these sites let's wait for their presence.
gl. Keep us updated.
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