Something's wrong currently with bitcointalk's software - it's putting my new post above inside the quote instead of showing it as a new post.
same is happening to me.edit- except this time.
Topic: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS since 2014 : KYC Rankings, Bonuses, Scam Accus - page 157. (Read 260310 times)
June 22, 2015, 08:03:27 PM
edit- except this time.
June 22, 2015, 08:00:13 PM
Peeps - Any reason for the rating you give them other than length of time they've existed?
I get the same feeling I got with betvip - that it's a vacant storefront (at least the sportsbook) which (almost) no one patronizes.
After a book has been in business for 2 years, longevity is no longer a sole reason for an upgrade. Betcoin is not a BetVIP or 2 man operation. They are a good book.
"Betcoin is not a BetVIP or 2 man operation."
Hopefully you are correct (despite them not responding to my post above nor my post in their own thread).
But let's remember that you had BetVIP graded "B", the same rating you've given Betcoinsports/Betcoin.
June 22, 2015, 06:20:19 PM
Something's wrong currently with bitcointalk's software - it's putting my new post above inside the quote instead of showing it as a new post.
June 22, 2015, 06:19:13 PM
Peeps - Any reason for the rating you give them other than length of time they've existed?
I get the same feeling I got with betvip - that it's a vacant storefront (at least the sportsbook) which (almost) no one patronizes.
After a book has been in business for 2 years, longevity is no longer a sole reason for an upgrade. Betcoin is not a BetVIP or 2 man operation. They are a good book.
"Betcoin is not a BetVIP or 2 man operation."
Hopefully you are correct (despite them not responding to my post above nor my post in their own thread).
But let's remember that you had BetVIP graded "B", the same rating you've given Betcoinsports/Betcoin.
June 22, 2015, 04:34:24 PM
Please add bet-bitcoin.com to your list of non paying sports books.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11687107
Most likely operated by the same scammers who ran bitcoinsports.eu and btcbook.eu.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11687107
Most likely operated by the same scammers who ran bitcoinsports.eu and btcbook.eu.
Protonewb 6/21
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Well, I ignored a few warnings in their main thread, and now i'm waiting 3 days for a payout of around .5 BTC.
Seemed too good to be true - actual pinnacle odds with no account hassle, and direct payment back to BTC address. But then grading started taking hours. He seemed responsive via pm (but red flag that my post about not being paid was deleted from their self-moderated thread).
I kept getting stalled via pm "sorry automated grading is down" etc etc. Then finally was told i would be paid manually. Bets were finally graded win after 2 days, but no payment arrived.
It seems like a 1-person shop who coded up a simple site to copy odds and accept bets. At this point 3 days later being incompetent is indistinguishable from being a scam. I know making this post now decreases whatever chances I had of getting paid, but so be it. Be careful.
Seemed too good to be true - actual pinnacle odds with no account hassle, and direct payment back to BTC address. But then grading started taking hours. He seemed responsive via pm (but red flag that my post about not being paid was deleted from their self-moderated thread).
I kept getting stalled via pm "sorry automated grading is down" etc etc. Then finally was told i would be paid manually. Bets were finally graded win after 2 days, but no payment arrived.
It seems like a 1-person shop who coded up a simple site to copy odds and accept bets. At this point 3 days later being incompetent is indistinguishable from being a scam. I know making this post now decreases whatever chances I had of getting paid, but so be it. Be careful.
June 22, 2015, 04:22:52 PM
Please add bet-bitcoin.com to your list of non paying sports books.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11687107
Most likely operated by the same scammers who ran bitcoinsports.eu and btcbook.eu.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11687107
Most likely operated by the same scammers who ran bitcoinsports.eu and btcbook.eu.
Give me a day or two to check into them to see what I can find. Thanks for the information. It's really appreciated.
June 22, 2015, 04:18:12 PM
Please add bet-bitcoin.com to your list of non paying sports books.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11687107
Most likely operated by the same scammers who ran bitcoinsports.eu and btcbook.eu.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11687107
Most likely operated by the same scammers who ran bitcoinsports.eu and btcbook.eu.
June 22, 2015, 04:12:36 PM
Thanks to the guys that are posting book information for all of us to see. Also, thanks to the books for chiming in.
June 22, 2015, 04:11:08 PM
Peeps - Any reason for the rating you give them other than length of time they've existed?
I get the same feeling I got with betvip - that it's a vacant storefront (at least the sportsbook) which (almost) no one patronizes.
After a book has been in business for 2 years, longevity is no longer a sole reason for an upgrade. Betcoin is not a BetVIP or 2 man operation. They are a good book.
June 22, 2015, 04:21:47 AM
Hi freshair246,
It looks like your issue was a simple regrading issue which was resolved. Are you having any further issues?
Regards,
Cloudbet
June 22, 2015, 04:09:29 AM
Hi freshair246,
It looks like your issue was a simple regrading issue which was resolved. Are you having any further issues?
Regards,
Cloudbet
June 21, 2015, 08:18:01 AM
rated cloudbet as a B book. (edited my ratings from D- to B could have been A but bcoz there customer support sucks sometimes ive rated it as B)
edit - got paid
edit - got paid
June 21, 2015, 04:13:04 AM
Just spent over an hour trying to make a bet at this wretched site - betcoinsports.com
I'm logged in at https://www.betcoin.ag/, click on Sports tab, it tells me to log in to make a bet, and won't accept the user name and password which the page https://www.betcoin.ag/ accepts.
Live chat trying to be helpful, but periodically disappears and chat gives message that no one is there.
Logged out on .ag page, still can't login on betcoinsports.com page.
Did a password reset, it tells me it's successful, I login on the .ag page, click on sports, sports page again tells me to login to make a bet, won't accept info which .ag page accepts.
I'm logged in at https://www.betcoin.ag/, click on Sports tab, it tells me to log in to make a bet, and won't accept the user name and password which the page https://www.betcoin.ag/ accepts.
Live chat trying to be helpful, but periodically disappears and chat gives message that no one is there.
Logged out on .ag page, still can't login on betcoinsports.com page.
Did a password reset, it tells me it's successful, I login on the .ag page, click on sports, sports page again tells me to login to make a bet, won't accept info which .ag page accepts.
Does anyone from betcoinsports read this thread?
Willing to try your sportsbook but not willing to spend any more time with login problems - see tonyq's post above for confirmation.
Could use some help.
Glad you have live chat there, but the fact that it periodically disappears in the midst of chat sessions and message states "We do not have live chat at this time" is disappointing. What's the problem there?
Any sportsbettor reading this actually manage to login and bet there?
Peeps - Any reason for the rating you give them other than length of time they've existed?
I get the same feeling I got with betvip - that it's a vacant storefront (at least the sportsbook) which (almost) no one patronizes.
June 21, 2015, 04:08:47 AM
Very happy to report that the last 5 or so withdrawals from Nitrogen were all within 2 to 3 minutes to be received.
June 21, 2015, 02:43:53 AM
Betcoin.ag decrease my bets limit in 5 times after my winning period in 1 month.
June 20, 2015, 08:37:29 PM
just want to know why ratings for anonibet+nitrogensport is 2 step above from directbet?? because from my experience that 3 site have same level with had plus minus in the same range, example that 3 site didnt have main source for live score but they using multi source for real live score...
DirectBet uses the "back" odds from Betfair adding more take out. There is a minimum amount needed at Betfair for DirectBet
to put up a line. Many times there aren't lines up on one side or both since lines are dependent upon lines at an exchange. The lines at DirectBet aren't competitive in American markets.
With deposit books when a bet is placed , the player gets notice if the bet is accepted or rejected in a short period of time. With DirectBet confirmation of accepting/rejecting a bet isn't made until the time the money leaves the players wallet until it reaches DirectBet's wallet.
Most of the time this is immediate but there is also the possibility of not knowing if a bet is accepted or rejected for an hour or more. While this hasn't happened for a while, a few months ago confirmations were delayed on a daily basis. Most of the time it was due to the site going up and down, but it can be from any delay in DirectBet receiving a bet after coins leaving the player's wallet.
DirectBet once had the advantage of being a non-deposit book but the advantage no longer exists with the speed in which deposits and withdrawals occur at other books. Some have instant deposit/withdrawals.
Books rated "B-" and higher are recommended books. DirectBet isn't capable of meeting the recommended status due to the system in which they use to confirm/reject bets. There should never be extended delays. One delay is one too many.
June 20, 2015, 04:58:31 PM
just want to know why ratings for anonibet+nitrogensport is 2 step above from directbet?? because from my experience that 3 site have same level with had plus minus in the same range, example that 3 site didnt have main source for live score but they using multi source for real live score...
June 20, 2015, 07:22:05 AM
Just spent over an hour trying to make a bet at this wretched site - betcoinsports.com
I'm logged in at https://www.betcoin.ag/, click on Sports tab, it tells me to log in to make a bet, and won't accept the user name and password which the page https://www.betcoin.ag/ accepts.
Live chat trying to be helpful, but periodically disappears and chat gives message that no one is there.
Logged out on .ag page, still can't login on betcoinsports.com page.
Did a password reset, it tells me it's successful, I login on the .ag page, click on sports, sports page again tells me to login to make a bet, won't accept info which .ag page accepts.
I'm logged in at https://www.betcoin.ag/, click on Sports tab, it tells me to log in to make a bet, and won't accept the user name and password which the page https://www.betcoin.ag/ accepts.
Live chat trying to be helpful, but periodically disappears and chat gives message that no one is there.
Logged out on .ag page, still can't login on betcoinsports.com page.
Did a password reset, it tells me it's successful, I login on the .ag page, click on sports, sports page again tells me to login to make a bet, won't accept info which .ag page accepts.
I've had the same experiences there in the past.
It's a nightmare.
June 20, 2015, 06:05:05 AM
Just spent over an hour trying to make a bet at this wretched site - betcoinsports.com
I'm logged in at https://www.betcoin.ag/, click on Sports tab, it tells me to log in to make a bet, and won't accept the user name and password which the page https://www.betcoin.ag/ accepts.
Live chat trying to be helpful, but periodically disappears and chat gives message that no one is there.
Logged out on .ag page, still can't login on betcoinsports.com page.
Did a password reset, it tells me it's successful, I login on the .ag page, click on sports, sports page again tells me to login to make a bet, won't accept info which .ag page accepts.
I'm logged in at https://www.betcoin.ag/, click on Sports tab, it tells me to log in to make a bet, and won't accept the user name and password which the page https://www.betcoin.ag/ accepts.
Live chat trying to be helpful, but periodically disappears and chat gives message that no one is there.
Logged out on .ag page, still can't login on betcoinsports.com page.
Did a password reset, it tells me it's successful, I login on the .ag page, click on sports, sports page again tells me to login to make a bet, won't accept info which .ag page accepts.
June 20, 2015, 01:35:51 AM
Will you contact Nitrogen and try to get them to offer the option of "Listed Pitchers" for MLB, like every other sportsbook on the planet?
It's just taking advantage of unsophisticated bettors the way they're doing it.
I've never even seen the option to bet MLB totals with "Action only" (i.e., regardless of pitcher). It is ALWAYS default "Listed Pitchers" only for totals.
But not at Nitro.
The book that is in most ways the top bitcoin sportsbook should be better than this.
It's just taking advantage of unsophisticated bettors the way they're doing it.
I've never even seen the option to bet MLB totals with "Action only" (i.e., regardless of pitcher). It is ALWAYS default "Listed Pitchers" only for totals.
But not at Nitro.
The book that is in most ways the top bitcoin sportsbook should be better than this.
gogo- I talked with Nitrogen about "listed" pitchers. A huge majority of their players want all wagers to be "action". Nitrogen is always open to change so it wouldn't surprise me if this was changed down the line. Believe me, I know that they take your opinion seriously.
This is just a self-fulfilling prophecy.
They only offer "Action only" MLB.
So some people bet it, and then it becomes "Our players prefer 'Action only'." Well, the ones who bet it there don't have a choice and don't know any better. (Granted, some genuinely don't care. But others like myself don't bet MLB there because there is no option to choose "Listed").
Make "Action only" the default, and offer an option to make the bet "Listed Pitchers".
It costs them bets by not allowing one to choose.
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