#1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS since 2014 : KYC Rankings, Bonuses, Scam Accus - page 160.

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"A" rated books
Anonibet A (2011)
NitrogenSports A (2012)

"B"rated books
Betcoinsports B+ (2013)
Casinobitcoin B (2013)
Jetwin B (2013)
Cloudbet B- (2013)

"C" rated books
BetVIP C+(2014)
Fairlay C (2014)
Betmoose C- (2014)
BetOWI C- (2014)
DirectBet C- (2014)
OLEBitcoin C- (2013)*
Predictious C- (2013)

"D" rated books
Premiumtradings D+ (2014)
Roadbet D+ (2012)
Betbtc D (2014)

"F" rated books
Asianconnect F ....................accepting deposits but they have confiscated funds from multiple players.
Ball2Win F ..........................accepting deposits. They are under the same license as "F" book gobetgo
BetCas F ............................accepting deposits but they have confiscated funds from multiple players.
BTCBonusBook (2015).......... accepting deposits with no payout history.
BTCBook F (2014) ................no payouts are being made due to a DDoS attack. One player has been waiting since 4/17/05.
Casinoco (2015)...................accepting deposits but not paying out all players.
Coindrafts F (2014)
Webetcoins F (2014).............accepting deposits but not paying out all players.
Bitbm F .............................accepting deposits but not paying out all players.
Bitcoinsport F
Bitcoinlivebets F
Coinbet F
Gobetgo F (2013)
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC F
Blockbet F
Bitbook F

NR
altbetfair.com
betbanks.com
betinbtc.com
betkurus.com
bitsportsbook.org
Coin178.com
Flutterclub.com
Planetofbets.com
tdsports.com
xbet.io

* longer accepting cash deposits

Maximum grade based upon time in business:

A - 2 years
B - 1 year
C - 3 months
D - 1 month
F - reserved for books that are scams, slow paying or stiffing players

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legendary

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Cloudbet, I apologize again. There are a few hiccups but not enough to deem a decrease. I haven't had problems with personal withdrawals. Re-instated to "B-"

The original post has been edited.

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Quote from: Cloudbet on June 03, 2015, 06:43:36 AM

Quote from: Rating Place on June 03, 2015, 01:27:43 AM

Cloudbet lowered from "B-" to "C+". Just a couple of delays isn't going to change a rating but there are multiple with substantial time periods. It unacceptable for Cloudbet to have this many delays, one over 2 days. If they are clean for a month, they will be bumped up again.

This simply isn't true. We have not had multiple customers with substantial delays - we have had 1 customer who had to wait a long time for a regrade, for which we were culpable and apologised. In the other cases, 7 hrs for a large withdrawal is not unusual (we promise 24 hours), there was no issue in khawaja07's case (he simply bet the wrong selection), and the betslip issues the others are experiencing have not been reported to us yet.

Thanks.

Cloudbet

Cloudbet,

I apologize for the mix up. Give me a little time to go over it. Thanks

Cloudbet

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Cloudbet | Best Bitcoin Gambling Site Since 2013

Quote from: Rating Place on June 03, 2015, 01:27:43 AM

Cloudbet lowered from "B-" to "C+". Just a couple of delays isn't going to change a rating but there are multiple with substantial time periods. It unacceptable for Cloudbet to have this many delays, one over 2 days. If they are clean for a month, they will be bumped up again.

This simply isn't true. We have not had multiple customers with substantial delays - we have had 1 customer who had to wait a long time for a regrade, for which we were culpable and apologised. In the other cases, 7 hrs for a large withdrawal is not unusual (we promise 24 hours), there was no issue in khawaja07's case (he simply bet the wrong selection), and the betslip issues the others are experiencing have not been reported to us yet.

Thanks.

Cloudbet

Cloudbet

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Cloudbet | Best Bitcoin Gambling Site Since 2013

Hi Peeps,

Nobody has ever waited for over 24 hours for a withdrawal. The ONLY exception is specific cases of fraud. We have run some analysis and ~94% of our withdrawals are processed within 5 seconds, with 100% being processed <24 hours.

In one case a customer did wait a long while for a bet to be graded which was due to a technical issue with a third party and we have resolved this and apologised to the affected party. His subsequent withdrawal was processed very quickly.

Finally, it was a public holiday this week here and we were short staffed on support which caused some longer response times than usual.

Hope this helps.

Cloudbet

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DirectBet is now back up on the rating's guide at "C-". It seems that DirectBet copies the Betfair Back Odds and tacks on a lot to both sides. It's not been determined the amount needed at Betfair in order for a line to be put up at DirectBet. A line isn't put up for small amounts.

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legendary

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Please post withdrawal times for the books. Posting both the good and bad would be appreciated. Let's hold them accountable.

"A" rated books
Anonibet A (2011)
NitrogenSports A (2012)

"B"rated books
Betcoinsports B+ (2013)
Casinobitcoin B (2013)
Jetwin B (2013)
Cloudbet B- (2013)

"C" rated books
BetVIP C+(2014)
Fairlay C (2014)
Betmoose C- (2014)
BetOWI C- (2014)
DirectBet C- (2014)
OLEBitcoin C- (2013)*
Predictious C- (2013)

"D" rated books
Premiumtradings D+ (2014)
Roadbet D+ (2012)
Betbtc D (2014)

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legendary

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Edit- Cloudbet remains "B-"

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legendary

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Quote from: Rating Place on June 01, 2015, 03:49:01 PM

Big week with the NBA Finals, Stanley Cup, Belmont Stakes, Women's World Cup and French Open. If there are any contests or specials going on, please post them.

Nitrogen has one

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Introducing the new 10x Challenge!

We're excited to announce the 10x Challenge! Until Sunday June 7th, you can place wagers corresponding to the challenges listed below. Each challenge completed earns you a chance to win a draw for 10x the minimum wager amount in free bets. Players who complete all 8 challenges will also be entered to win a 1.5 btc free bet!

Challenges
Belmont Bronze: Share a betslip with a wager on the Belmont Stakes where the risked amount is at least 0.01 btc and be entered to win 0.1 btc free bet.
Belmont Silver: Share a betslip with a wager on the Belmont Stakes where the risked amount is at least 0.05 btc and be entered to win 0.5 btc free bet.
Belmont Gold: Share a betslip with a wager on the Belmont Stakes where the risked amount is at least 0.1 btc and receive a 0.01 btc free bet and be entered to win a 1 btc free bet.
Parlay Bronze: Share a 3-leg parlay consisting of a bet on the French Open, an eSports match, and the Champions League final with a minimum risked amount of .01 btc. You will be entered to win a 0.1 btc free bet.
Parlay Silver: Share a 3-leg parlay consisting of a bet on the French Open, an eSports match, and the Champions League final with a minimum risked amount of 0.05 btc. You will be entered to win 0.5 btc free bet.
Parlay Gold: Share a 3-leg parlay consisting of a bet on the French Open, an eSports match, and the Champions League final with a minimum risked amount of 0.1 btc. You will receive a 0.01 btc free bet and be entered to win 1 btc free bet.
Hold’em Poker: Share a hand of poker (Hold’em or Crazy Hold’em) where you won with a pair of non-face cards and be entered to win a 0.1 btc free bet.
Omaha Poker: Share a hand of poker (Omaha) where you won with a full house or better (Four of a kind, Straight flush, or Royal Flush) and be entered to win a 0.2 btc free bet.

For full contest details and rules please click here!

any others?

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Quote from: VTC on June 02, 2015, 01:54:56 AM

Quote from: Rating Place on May 27, 2015, 12:07:17 AM

Starting June 1 if you guys are asking for payouts and it's taking longer than 15 minutes, then post it. A book should make this time limit a big majority of the time.

Waiting for 7 hours for a CloudBet withdrawal, usually I get them fast.

I would rather like to see more of an active response from CloudBet then them receiving a lower rating. There are a number of customer issues brought up in the CloudBet thread
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=333552.1860
And the CloudBet account is active but doesn't respond to any of these issues the last few days.

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Edit: just got the withdrawal now

I realize that the rating is insignificant compared to being paid but thanks for the post and update. It may help us in speeding up withdrawals..

VTC

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Quote from: Rating Place on May 27, 2015, 12:07:17 AM

Starting June 1 if you guys are asking for payouts and it's taking longer than 15 minutes, then post it. A book should make this time limit a big majority of the time.

Waiting for 7 hours for a CloudBet withdrawal, usually I get them fast.

I would rather like to see more of an active response from CloudBet then them receiving a lower rating. There are a number of customer issues brought up in the CloudBet thread
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=333552.1860
And the CloudBet account is active but doesn't respond to any of these issues the last few days.

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Edit: just got the withdrawal now

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legendary

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Big week with the NBA Finals, Stanley Cup, Belmont Stakes, Women's World Cup and French Open. If there are any contests or specials going on, please post them.

BetVIP

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Quote from: bgerg on May 30, 2015, 08:34:36 AM

Quote from: BetVIP on May 28, 2015, 08:31:53 AM

Quote from: bgerg on May 28, 2015, 07:28:48 AM

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11472334

My winning limit is 50mbtc (12 USD) at betvip after 1 lost bet and i have 1 BTC bonus.

How many bets should i place to complete betvip bonus requirements ?

If i take the lowest odds 1.5 , then my maximum stake could be only 33.33 mbtc (8 USD)
So if i want to complete betvip bonus requirements i have to place (1*10/0.033 =) 303 bets @1.5, 400 bets @ 2

So what do you think about it ?

Is it fair from a book to limit their customers account after 1 (lost) bet (so much) not to be able to complete the bonus requirements ?

Hi bgerg

Your question has been answered on our thread. As stated, please PM me your account details so that I can investigate the reason for a limit. As explained, the maximum risk limit could have been reached on that particular bet if it was a popular market.

Regards
BetVIP Support

From betvip

"Hi bgerg

I have had a discussion with our trading team who investigates each account in great detail. Where they deem appropriate, they will limit a users account for various reason. Unfortunately your account has been limited."

So betvip put 12 USD winning limit on my account after 1 lost bet. They investigated it.
Betvip give you deposit bonus but they limit your account not to be able to complete the bonus requirements. They think it is fair.
What do you think?

Hi bgerg

As explained on or thread, our traders do not limit an account lightly. A sportsbook holds a lot of risk and we expect players to play fairly. Our traders investigated your account and deemed it necessary to limit it after a thorough investigation.

Regards
BetVIP

bgerg

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Quote from: BetVIP on May 28, 2015, 08:31:53 AM

Quote from: bgerg on May 28, 2015, 07:28:48 AM

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11472334

My winning limit is 50mbtc (12 USD) at betvip after 1 lost bet and i have 1 BTC bonus.

How many bets should i place to complete betvip bonus requirements ?

If i take the lowest odds 1.5 , then my maximum stake could be only 33.33 mbtc (8 USD)
So if i want to complete betvip bonus requirements i have to place (1*10/0.033 =) 303 bets @1.5, 400 bets @ 2

So what do you think about it ?

Is it fair from a book to limit their customers account after 1 (lost) bet (so much) not to be able to complete the bonus requirements ?

Hi bgerg

Your question has been answered on our thread. As stated, please PM me your account details so that I can investigate the reason for a limit. As explained, the maximum risk limit could have been reached on that particular bet if it was a popular market.

Regards
BetVIP Support

From betvip

"Hi bgerg

I have had a discussion with our trading team who investigates each account in great detail. Where they deem appropriate, they will limit a users account for various reason. Unfortunately your account has been limited."

So betvip put 12 USD winning limit on my account after 1 lost bet. They investigated it.
Betvip give you deposit bonus but they limit your account not to be able to complete the bonus requirements. They think it is fair.
What do you think?

BetVIP

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Activity: 462

Merit: 250

Quote from: bgerg on May 28, 2015, 07:28:48 AM

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11472334

My winning limit is 50mbtc (12 USD) at betvip after 1 lost bet and i have 1 BTC bonus.

How many bets should i place to complete betvip bonus requirements ?

If i take the lowest odds 1.5 , then my maximum stake could be only 33.33 mbtc (8 USD)
So if i want to complete betvip bonus requirements i have to place (1*10/0.033 =) 303 bets @1.5, 400 bets @ 2

So what do you think about it ?

Is it fair from a book to limit their customers account after 1 (lost) bet (so much) not to be able to complete the bonus requirements ?

Hi bgerg

Your question has been answered on our thread. As stated, please PM me your account details so that I can investigate the reason for a limit. As explained, the maximum risk limit could have been reached on that particular bet if it was a popular market.

Regards
BetVIP Support

bgerg

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https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11472334

My winning limit is 50mbtc (12 USD) at betvip after 1 lost bet and i have 1 BTC bonus.

How many bets should i place to complete betvip bonus requirements ?

If i take the lowest odds 1.5 , then my maximum stake could be only 33.33 mbtc (8 USD)
So if i want to complete betvip bonus requirements i have to place (1*10/0.033 =) 303 bets @1.5, 400 bets @ 2

So what do you think about it ?

Is it fair from a book to limit their customers account after 1 (lost) bet (so much) not to be able to complete the bonus requirements ?

Gogo ppp

legendary

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Quote from: Rating Place on May 27, 2015, 12:08:02 AM

Nitrogen doing some nice work in their poker room. Added avatars and player's notes.

Intentionally deceptive advertising/posts about this past day's "freerolls".

For the hourly freerolls, they were awarding 1 mBTC, or about 24 cents USD.

So these are truly play money tournaments, but they are stretching the meaning of freeroll by giving out a meaningless amount of money so they can call it a "freeroll" rather than a meaningless play money tournament with no cash prizes.

Fail.

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legendary

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Nitrogen doing some nice work in their poker room. Added avatars and player's notes.

Rating Place

legendary

Activity: 3934

Merit: 1061

Starting June 1 if you guys are asking for payouts and it's taking longer than 15 minutes, then post it. A book should make this time limit a big majority of the time.

Rating Place

legendary

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