Topic: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS since 2014 : KYC Rankings, Bonuses, Scam Accus - page 161. (Read 260393 times)

Starting June 1 if you guys are asking for payouts and it's taking longer than 15 minutes, then post it. A book should make this time limit a big majority of the time.

Update

Could you update OP page of your own thread for your present website situation to let everyone know why website still under maintenance?

We wish we could give you more information. We are still having problems with a certain bug and we don't want to run the site with a known bug.
We first had the problem that a user could cancel a bet twice due to a specific so called "race condition". Know our fix lead to the bug that in some cases a user can not cancel an open bet at all. We might need to do a bigger refactoring of our code.

However - we strongly want to emphasize that cash outs are possible with no limitations. Just send us an email from the email address you used for fairlay.com

What's the objective feeling about Fairlay?

1. Right now Betcoin has the best line on the Cavs and on the over in that game. Many tennis and soccer bets are the same.

2. I think that Betcoin is bigger than all books rated below them.

3. The best lines are at Nitrogen followed by Jetwin combining all sports. This may take some time but I'm hoping that one day the spreadsheet will contain the book with the lowest margin by sport.

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Don't ever play at this site. They had system errors yesterday, so they could not grade my bets for at least 10 hours. Then, today, I requested two payouts(.7 BTC and .2 BTC), and they sent out without adding fees. Are you kidding me? Without adding fees. One could be a mistake, but two of my payouts that they did not add fees. Don't ever play at this site, they have alot of issues from deposits to placing bets. I repeat don't ever play at this site."


This is perhaps the 5th or 6th time that I've seen different posters claim that Anonibet sends out withdrawals without including the miners fee which is usually ~ 0.0001 btc.

Is this correct that they don't include it and send out without any mining fee?

I agree that there are a number of different criteria for judging a sportsbook.

All other things being equal, the price is most important.


" Do you consider sports outside of American markets? How important are small market sports? Do you consider derivatives, props, alt lines?"

Can you give any examples of lines for anything you mention being superior at BetcoinSports? Or even competitive?


"Do the amount of employees, player base or time in existence mean anything?  What weight is given in being able to play in currencies outside of bitcoins?"

Can you mention any of these that are superior at BetcoinSports?

What criteria would you use in grading books? Do you consider sports outside of American markets? How important are small market sports? Do you consider derivatives, props, alt lines? Is live betting, live chat a consideration? Do the amount of employees, player base or time in existence mean anything?  What weight is given in being able to play in currencies outside of bitcoins?  Every book has strengths and weaknesses. Opinions from all are welcome to help improve the rating's guide.

"Additionally, they offer a lovely 28 cent line (-114/-114    1.8772/1.8772) for MLB totals.
Compare with Pinnacle's 10 cent line (-105/-105  1.9524/1.9524)."

I guess I misread something at Betcoinsports - they're even worse than I stated.


nyy/WAS 7.5

Over:

Nitrogen +104.9/ 2.049
Betcoin   -109   /1.9174

[Unfortunately, Nitrogen's MLB is worthless also as they don't offer listed pitchers - sharing this aspect with Betcoin].


They don't have a 28 cent totals line, they have a 36 cent line:

-118/-118      1.8475/1.8475

Compare to Pinnacle's 10 cent line

-105/-105      1.9524/1.9524



Peeps - This deserves an elevation from B to B+?

I suppose they deserve an A+ for most horrendous juice among btc sportsbooks though...

Regarding Odds - have you ever checked out Jame's site that aggregates all the major btc sites? Pretty descent analysis, and its all automated.

example for MLB: http://bitcoin-betting-guide.com/odds-comparison-tables/major-league-baseball/

My next project is going to be odds comparisons but it is sport specific. One book offers better odds in baseball. Another book offers better odds in EPL. It has to be broken down further by match, handicap, total, vanilla, opinionated, etc.

I was wrong - Nitrogensports isn't the only sportsbook on Planet Earth to not offer listed pitchers for MLB.
Betcoinsports does this as well.

Additionally, they offer a lovely 28 cent line (-114/-114    1.8772/1.8772) for MLB totals.
Compare with Pinnacle's 10 cent line (-105/-105  1.9524/1.9524).

Has to be the worst odds (for this at least) of all the A and B books.

And how does any sportsbook not offer at least the option to select listed pitchers for MLB?

"A" rated books
Anonibet A (2011)
NitrogenSports A (2012)

"B"rated books
Betcoinsports B+ (2013)
Casinobitcoin B (2013)
Jetwin B (2013)
Cloudbet B- (2013)

"C" rated books
BetVIP C+(2014)
Fairlay C (2014)
Betmoose C- (2014)
BetOWI C- (2014)
OLEBitcoin C- (2013)*
Predictious C- (2013)

"D" rated books
Premiumtradings D+ (2014)
Roadbet D+ (2012)
Betbtc D (2014)


"F" rated books
Asianconnect F ....................accepting deposits but they have confiscated funds from multiple players.
Ball2Win F ..........................accepting deposits. They are under the same license as "F" book gobetgo
BetCas F ............................accepting deposits but they have confiscated funds from multiple players.
BTCBonusBook (2015).......... accepting deposits with no payout history.
BTCBook F (2014) ................no payouts are being made due to a DDoS attack. One player has been waiting since 4/17/05.
Casinoco (2015)...................accepting deposits but not paying out all players.
Coindrafts F (2014)
Webetcoins F (2014).............accepting deposits but not paying out all players.
Bitbm F .............................accepting deposits but not paying out all players.
Bitcoinsport F
Bitcoinlivebets F
Coinbet F
Gobetgo F (2013)
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC F
Blockbet F
Bitbook F

NR
altbetfair.com
betbanks.com
betinbtc.com
betkurus.com
bitsportsbook.org
Coin178.com
Flutterclub.com
Planetofbets.com
tdsports.com
xbet.io


* longer accepting cash deposits

Maximum grade based upon time in business:

A - 2 years
B - 1 year
C - 3 months
D - 1 month
F - reserved for books that are scams, slow paying or stiffing players

 Betcoin raised from "B" to "B+". Betcoin has been in business close to 2 years. Betcoin and Nitrogen are the two fastest growing bitcoin sports books as far as player base and employees. Betcoin now has live baseball betting with both 2-way and 3-way betting along with alternate totals.

Some information from the Betcoin thread.

We will implement the 15 minute rule June 1. If a high percentage of withdrawals are processed within 15 minutes, this will help in a book's rating. If withdrawals are taking more than 15 minutes, then downgrades will be given.

Books do go through automated checks with each withdrawal request. Some withdrawals may be held up for manual review.  There will be exceptions. Some books will manually review the first withdrawal that a player requests. A high majority of withdrawals should be made within 15 minutes. Feel free to report excessive withdrawal times.

BetBTC- I'm not looking for an argument but just a question on why you posted this? . There are other bitcoin only exchanges out there such as Fairlay.

I'd suggest getting started with this.
If you'd like to make it 15 minutes, use that.

If a book switches to instant withdrawals at any time, call attention to it.

Yes.

All action with adjusted prices?