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Can i run more than one blade on the same proxy miner?
newbie
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Yah, it can be 5 deep.

And most computers (like my various OS X Mac's) have 2 USB ports.

I rig em up on the fly and keep a count of the connections and optimize as you go.
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
Is any one still having trouble with the usb sticks. I have 20 of them running, they wont stay at full speed. back and forth between 4-7 ghs I thought Doc fixed this? Any ideas?

It could be brownouts, or issues with daisy chain topology.  

I don't think the guys who invented USB ever figured we'd be actually connecting 100+ USB devices at once. Smiley

I had 80+ GH of USB BE's running on 3 Mac's.

You know, there is this killer Targus 7 port USB hub with 3.5Amp transformer that I have that nobody out there seems to know about.  I was thinking of getting rid of them, but maybe if these new USB's pan out, I'll keep em.

Here is an old Ebay auction in which the Targus 7 port hubs are shown - they clip together!   Very cool

I'd post images, but I don't know how so here is a link to the finished auction:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/281149519539?ssPageName=STRK:MESOX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1559.l2649



  you bring up a good point about daisy chain topology.   max is 5 a port.  so depending on the port on the pc you can do 4 or 5 hubs.   My asus maximus gene v has 3 usb ports for usb 2 purposes .  rest are usb 3.   if I plug 1 hub into each port that is 3 hubs but the mobo is wired that each is the first of a 5  possible.  in english

port a = 1 hub then plug in 4 hubs  .   so that is a 10 port  with 4 ten ports plugged into it      or 6 plus 40 total of 46  jacks for  sticks.

port b = 1 hub then plug in 4 hubs .  so that is a 10 port with 4 ten port hubs plugged into it .  or 6 plus 40 total of 46 jacks for sticks.

port c = 1 hub then plug in 4 hubs so that is a 10 port with 4 ten port hubs plugged into it.   or 6 plus 40 total of 46 jacks for sticks.

  I can do any 2 of the 3 above maxed so  92 sticks are a piece of cake.  when I try to do all 3 I go past the 127 usb limit and all kinds of problems.   this mobo has done 105 sticks.  right now it does 100 sticks.   I am happy doing 100 sticks.

 if I could swap al bit fury's I could be doing about 230gh instead of 33gh with the same power use!   I am thinking the spacing will allow for 60 sticks instead of 100 sticks.  but  60 bitfurys would get me to 150gh with less power then the 100 sticks at 33gh.  I almost have 17 coins to order the 20 sticks.  I hope to place my order on the 23rd
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Is any one still having trouble with the usb sticks. I have 20 of them running, they wont stay at full speed. back and forth between 4-7 ghs I thought Doc fixed this? Any ideas?

It could be brownouts, or issues with daisy chain topology. 

I don't think the guys who invented USB ever figured we'd be actually connecting 100+ USB devices at once. Smiley

I had 80+ GH of USB BE's running on 3 Mac's.

You know, there is this killer Targus 7 port USB hub with 3.5Amp transformer that I have that nobody out there seems to know about.  I was thinking of getting rid of them, but maybe if these new USB's pan out, I'll keep em.

Here is an old Ebay auction in which the Targus 7 port hubs are shown - they clip together!   Very cool

I'd post images, but I don't know how so here is a link to the finished auction:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/281149519539?ssPageName=STRK:MESOX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1559.l2649


legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
Is any one still having trouble with the usb sticks. I have 20 of them running, they wont stay at full speed. back and forth between 4-7 ghs I thought Doc fixed this? Any ideas?

my 100 are rock solid
 

Latest Shifts
23:44
Time   Ghps   Your Ghps   Your score
23:29   35,903.653   33.808   0.0942%
21:58   35,825.934   33.396   0.0932%
20:28   35,634.971   32.379   0.0909%
18:57   35,516.061   33.231   0.0936%
17:25   34,802.912   32.932   0.0946%
15:52   34,680.293   32.424   0.0935%
14:19   34,671.491   33.199   0.0958%
12:45   34,677.172   33.530   0.0967%
11:12   34,428.000   34.494   0.1002%
09:38   34,574.643   33.681   0.0974%

100 sticks should be close to 100x .3361 gh or 33.61gh
my score above covers the last 14 hours


I use a diy with an asus maximus gene v motherboard I have a i53470 cpu .  here are photos of my farm an old ebay sale from last week

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=151124310694
newbie
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Is any one still having trouble with the usb sticks. I have 20 of them running, they wont stay at full speed. back and forth between 4-7 ghs I thought Doc fixed this? Any ideas?
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
Have we gotten any confirmation about clearance on that heatsink? Most USB hubs have the ports packed pretty tightly and I'd be interested in getting a few of these but not if I have to replace my hubs.

this may mean every other port. thus making the 7 port hubs better then the 10 port hubs.  still 4 of these sticks = 9-10 gh  7 am sticks = 2.4 gh


the hub below is not low cost but it is overpowered with a 4amp 12 volt brick and is pretty much the most reliable hub there is for a standard pc running windows 7 not a raspberry pi


http://www.amazon.com/ViewHD-Professional-Premium-Quality-Chipset/dp/B00B59BFVI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1379691537&sr=8-1&keywords=viewhd+usb+hub

 this would run 4 new sticks with 3 empty slots. you may be able to fit one of these fans in 1 slot

http://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-Mobile-External-Cooling-AF0007/dp/B002OJN250/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1379691796&sr=8-1&keywords=thermaltake+usb+fan

http://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-Mobile-Fan-External-Cooling/dp/B00080G0BK/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1379691821&sr=8-2&keywords=thermaltake+usb+fan

http://www.amazon.com/Coolerguys-Dual-80mm-Cooling-Fans/dp/B002NVC1DS/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1379691837&sr=8-3&keywords=thermaltake+usb+fan
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Have we gotten any confirmation about clearance on that heatsink? Most USB hubs have the ports packed pretty tightly and I'd be interested in getting a few of these but not if I have to replace my hubs.

Just use a short male - female extension cable on every second stick.

That would certainly work but I'd have to come up with some way to adjust my fan setup. I'm mostly interested to know if these will fit in exactly where I currently have ASIC Miner USB sticks or if I need to factor in additional time/costs. The heatsink doesn't look that bulky but I was curious if someone had some direct measurements/comparisons to current hardware.
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
"DrHaribo can ssh in and work with" != "doc H is getting a stick sent to him"

I agree, they should send him one, because he is indirectly increasing their sales.
heh - not indirectly, directly.

Unfortunately, the companies making these things don't think that is true at all ...
... and they enjoy the free software development and support they get even though some of them make huge profits.

I have to give you this one.  your client has made a lot of money for a lot of people
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
"DrHaribo can ssh in and work with" != "doc H is getting a stick sent to him"

I agree, they should send him one, because he is indirectly increasing their sales.

I also agree. I've worked with hardware companies where they send me their hardware for a few weeks for free to make it work with my software. In return I promote their equipment and my users know for a fact that what they buy will work with my software since my company personally has used the exact device. Other times I've worked deals with some hardware companies so they sale it to me at a discount since it's only for testing, I even take their demo or "floor model" that they no longer use. They know that when I'm talking to my customers I'll be mentioning their company as one we work with and it provides confidance in the equipment. 

It's a win win for my company and with the free advertising for the their company.

I deal with end users all the time and that is the thing everyone needs to understand. You may have equipment to sale but you need people willing to buy. How do you do that with the least amount of money and effort going into advertising and proving your value to the community expecially since the bad taste some companys have put into us mininer's mouths when buying equipment.

Expecially in the case of new USB stick getting some well known names using and to be able to test their equipment is in their best intrest and in effect the ROI to that selling company is much higher. Everyone likes to do the ROI for equipment so lets do a little here: New unknown and unproven company gives out, we will say, 5 sticks to various well known celebrities of the BTC community that cost only production cost. Those people in turn will be doing advertising to a wide range of people on their blogs and sites they control the sites that people trust. ROI of the monetary amount of the physical device is negative but the ROI by the sales because of this should be in the positive.
yes the entire elephant not just the leg or the tail but the full picture.
newbie
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"DrHaribo can ssh in and work with" != "doc H is getting a stick sent to him"

I agree, they should send him one, because he is indirectly increasing their sales.

I also agree. I've worked with hardware companies where they send me their hardware for a few weeks for free to make it work with my software. In return I promote their equipment and my users know for a fact that what they buy will work with my software since my company personally has used the exact device. Other times I've worked deals with some hardware companies so they sale it to me at a discount since it's only for testing, I even take their demo or "floor model" that they no longer use. They know that when I'm talking to my customers I'll be mentioning their company as one we work with and it provides confidance in the equipment. 

It's a win win for my company and with the free advertising for the their company.

I deal with end users all the time and that is the thing everyone needs to understand. You may have equipment to sale but you need people willing to buy. How do you do that with the least amount of money and effort going into advertising and proving your value to the community expecially since the bad taste some companys have put into us mininer's mouths when buying equipment.

Expecially in the case of new USB stick getting some well known names using and to be able to test their equipment is in their best intrest and in effect the ROI to that selling company is much higher. Everyone likes to do the ROI for equipment so lets do a little here: New unknown and unproven company gives out, we will say, 5 sticks to various well known celebrities of the BTC community that cost only production cost. Those people in turn will be doing advertising to a wide range of people on their blogs and sites they control the sites that people trust. ROI of the monetary amount of the physical device is negative but the ROI by the sales because of this should be in the positive.
legendary
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https://gliph.me/hUF
Have we gotten any confirmation about clearance on that heatsink? Most USB hubs have the ports packed pretty tightly and I'd be interested in getting a few of these but not if I have to replace my hubs.

Just use a short male - female extension cable on every second stick.
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"DrHaribo can ssh in and work with" != "doc H is getting a stick sent to him"

I agree, they should send him one, because he is indirectly increasing their sales.
heh - not indirectly, directly.

Unfortunately, the companies making these things don't think that is true at all ...
... and they enjoy the free software development and support they get even though some of them make huge profits.
full member
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Have we gotten any confirmation about clearance on that heatsink? Most USB hubs have the ports packed pretty tightly and I'd be interested in getting a few of these but not if I have to replace my hubs.
newbie
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"DrHaribo can ssh in and work with" != "doc H is getting a stick sent to him"

I agree, they should send him one, because he is indirectly increasing their sales.
legendary
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https://gliph.me/hUF
 "DrHaribo can ssh in and work with" != "doc H is getting a stick sent to him"
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
New stick updates


The sellers of the new sticks have changed pricing again. They realized that a new fourth seller was undercutting the price structure and have decided to keep the pricing more in line with each other.


https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/closed-09-or-less-bpmc-blue-fury-27-ghs-usb-miner-ssinc-gb9-296301  usa

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/euuk-group-buy-blue-fury-usb-miner-22-27-ghs-297320  eu/ek

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/closed-blue-fury-usb-miner-090-or-less-per-unit-dabs-philippinesasia-296953  asia



 fourth seller after exchanging pm's has altered his pricing to match the other sellers.  nice guy polite with pm's.  when I pointed out his pricing would undercut all the approved sellers he agreed.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/closed-gb-1-bpmc-bluefury-usb-miner-25-ghs-05999btc-or-less-129-paypal-297304  GB seller takes paypal.
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Below is an alternate version of the new sticks

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/closed-nanofury-nf1-usb-stick-group-buy-product-assembly-291456  

will hash at a lower rate and cost less.  no heat sink.  less developed and may not ship until late oct or early nov.


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one of the threads says doc H is getting a stick sent to him.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/closed-09-or-less-bpmc-blue-fury-27-ghs-usb-miner-ssinc-gb9-296301

from thread above:

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Re: [NOW OPEN] 0.83 - 0.9 BTC ~2.5 GH/s BPMC "RED FURY" USB MINERS! GB#9!
Today at 06:10:39 AM
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Quote from: philipma1957 on Today at 01:21:14 AM
Quote from: ssinc on Today at 12:38:08 AM
I will not be selling these on eBay. Only directly to customers here and through my webstore.

If you are a eBay re-seller contact me for special bulk pricing and handling options.


I am gathering coins for a 20 stick buy.

I plan to order 20 a week sell 15-17 on ebay.

 I may try to set up a small buy for bitminter.com miners

 I  would like to order 20 run them for a day and sell them knowing they work.  I run the sticks on bitminter.com java client since it is the most newbe friendly client for mining. I sold a few hundred AM sticks on ebay like this trying to make it easy and fairly low cost for a new miner to get started.  I Should have my coins in order in 2-4 days.  I want sticks in hand  and pretested by me with my mining farm  to be able to sell on ebay as I believe this is the best way for a new miner to start up.  Send in a payment and the item ships out in 1 day. I don't mind doing a preorder to get started with stock.  But I want the ebayers to know I ship it out fast.

 This really worked well for me with the AM sticks. Since you have the earliest delivery date I am gathering coins to buy from you.  Knowing these work with bitminter.com java client  is a must.  BTW dr h of bitminter thinks they will since they are serial port com type devices

Yes we will be setting up some units that DrHaribo can ssh in and work with. We expect bitminter support soon.

  ^^^
very good news...  
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I am still gathering coins and have about 10 so far.  with the price structure back in synch. for these

 my goal is to order 20 sticks for 17 coins and sell 14 to 16 in sets of 2. then repeat this 2 or 3 times.

legendary
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C) pretty low cost for a stick

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No - that's the flaw in your argument.
They are not low cost. They are high cost.

The cost in BTC is above the BTC it will ever return.

Not only that, but originally when the AsicMiner USBs came out the mark up on them was at least 2000% - probably more - up to as much as 5000%

They are still priced with 1 requirement:
1) That AsicMiner will receive up front more BTC than they could get mining with them
i.e. you will lose BTC buying and mining with them

I still do not understand why so many people don't see the obvious.

More so, I do not understand why so many other people say
"It's OK to lose BTC - doing something that makes BTC"

No one who has bought an AsicMiner USB from AsicMiner or it's distributors, and mined PPS or equivalent, has got back the amount of BTC they paid for it.

Low cost, meaning fiat price.. Anyone can buy one and start mining.
This is something no other product/company has achieved.
Until at least one asic manufacturer steps up and acts responsibly - this mining roi issue is not going away anytime soon.


 yep out of pocket anyone with 20-25 usd can buy an am stick on ebay plug it into the pc and hash.  put the coins earn in an account and hold them for the 'future".  All naysayers to this idea simply are ignoring the ease of doing this.   Lets say I do not want to buy btc.  Why because buying btc is not that easy.  many people do not want to give a site like coinbase all the info needed to buy btc.   But millions of people have an  ebay account.
 
Below is the best usa ebay price for 1 stick 21.37

 http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Bitcoin-ASIC-Miner-USB-Block-Erupter-333MH-s-IN-HAND-Same-day-shipping-/111172616545?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19e2678161


I get 2% in ebucks I get 2 % if I use my paypal ebay card  cost for this stick is .96 x 21.37 or $ 20.52    cheap easy and a 45 day safety net from ebay/paypal. 



contrast buying btc on ebay


http://www.ebay.com/itm/BITCOIN-Paper-Wallet-0-20-mailed-USPS-BTC-/151123207660?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item232fa525ec


  .20 btc for 38 dollars       For the ebay shopper he or even she will get the stick over the paper .20 btc


Also many nay sayers don't understand ebay deals/bargains  and the ebay 'fiat'  ebucks.  you can only use your account to spend the ebuck in it and the ebuck must be spent on ebay.
  earning ebucks varies and specials of 4% or 6% vs standard 2% also occur.

 I buy US Post office Forever Stamps on ebay 2 to 3 thousand dollars a year from solid safe ebay sellers.

 I earn 2 or 4 percent and another 2 percent with the cc so 4 percent of 3 thousand is 120 ebucks.

With other purchases i would say I earn close to 200 in ebucks each year.   

Many ebayers joined ebay to late to be in the ebuck program and are not aware of it. 
 But I have had more then one buyer tell me they want to use ebucks to pay for an item can I wait until the day they get the ebucks.  The next ebuck payout day is oct 3rd.  Every 90 days for an ebuck payout.  I know my sales will pick up on the 2nd-10th of oct.
      So all the people that think an ebayer is loopy buying sticks for  a really high price  do not take this into account.  plus buying a few sticks is action. maybe the coins will go up to 1000 usd. And maybe I will get a hot streak with bitminter and mine 20% over norm for a week or 2.  Also AM sticks have resale value  guess where on ebay!

 So I don't knock Kano and what he preaches. I know he is a blind man with an elephant and the leg he touches is truly like a tree trunk. Preaching that an Elephant is like a tree trunk is a part truth.
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
Curious about the CDF rate.

Would increasing the hashing rate of the pool reduce the CDF?


 no but the variance would lesson.  that rate includes what you are hashing as part of the calculation of it.
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Curious about the CDF rate.

Would increasing the hashing rate of the pool reduce the CDF?
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