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Topic: [130 weeks] [Updated Jul 10] LoyceV's Trust list viewer - Create your own! - page 17. (Read 22461 times)

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Just a thought bubble question...

Would it be possible to have a Firefox add-on button similar to the BPIP one on a user's profile page that takes you to the corresponding trust page for that week?
legendary
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Update:
Historic overview (the last entry is most recent)
77. http://loyce.club/trust/2020-07-04_Sat_05.03h

Weekly starter to avoid loading the long index file: Trust list for: The Pharmacist (Trust: +27 / =2 / -0) (2532 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
BPIP has updated it's links already, and the top-navigation-bar is updated for the last few weeks already too. In the coming hours it will work it's way back through the earlier weeks.
Update: due to a blown fuse, updating the top-navigation-bar failed for "week 7". Since you can reach week 77 from any other week, I won't fix it until next week's update.
legendary
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Update:
Starting point of the week to avoid loading the large index page: Trust list for: TECSHARE (Trust: +37 / =6 / -2) (913 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP).
The top-navigation-bar will take several hours to update. BPIP has updated it's link to my Trust list viewer already.
legendary
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Merit: 16489
Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
Update:

Weekly starting point to avoid loading the large index page (use Firefox!):
Trust list for: suchmoon (Trust: +15 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (33) 4214 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
For easy navigation, you can also use BPIP (I expect it to update it's link to my Trust list viewer soon).

As always, the top-navigation-bar takes a few hours to update on all 900,000 pages.
legendary
Activity: 3290
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Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
Update:
As always, the top-navigation-bar will be updated the coming hours.

To avoid loading the large index file (use Firefox for it!), here's the Trust list of the week: Trust list for: gmaxwell.
BPIP hasn't updated it's link to my Trust list viewer yet. I expect it soon.
legendary
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It seems peloso's been busy. Does he really expect that trusting people who distrust him is going make them stop distrusting him, or does he have some even more convoluted motive? Huh
I was just wondering the same thing in another topic.
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It seems peloso's been busy. Does he really expect that trusting people who distrust him is going make them stop distrusting him, or does he have some even more convoluted motive? Huh
legendary
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Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
Update:
Historic overview (the last entry is most recent)
73. http://loyce.club/trust/2020-06-06_Sat_05.05h
To avoid loading this large page, you can use either BPIP or my Trust list as a starting point.

The top-navigation-bar will be updated in the coming hours.
legendary
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Full disclosure: I found an inaccuracy in my own profile:
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Trust list for: LoyceV (Trust: +20 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (48) 3365 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP) (created 2019-08-10_Sat_06.04h)
Back to index
I have only one neutral feedback rating from a DT-member, but since I left myself neutral feedback from "LoyceBot" (which I use for scraping), loyce.club shows 2 of them.
It took me long enough to think about this, but the fix is very easy: I just added ";dt" to each profile URL Smiley
Starting next Saturday, "LoyceV" should show with the correct amount of neutral feedback in my Trust list viewer.
legendary
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Update:
Today's delay is caused by a username change that messed things up.

Shortcut to avoid loading the large index page: LoyceV's Trust list. Or use BPIP.



I noticed something slightly off:
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Trust list for: LoyceV (Trust: +29 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (57) 5343 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP) (created 2020-05-30_Sat_12.05h)
Trust list for: theymos (Trust: +30 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (57) 6814 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP) (created 2020-05-30_Sat_12.05h)
In reality, theymos' DT1-strength is 58, and mine is 58 too. According to BPIP, there were no changes since the data dump. It turns out this is caused by another name change, I forgot to add TheBeardedBaby to my DT1-list. I'll run another update, the links above will be deleted in a couple of hours.
Update: it's fixed Smiley The top-navigation-bar will be updated in the coming hours.



@theymos: using usernames instead of userIDs in your weekly trust data dump is such a pain to deal with!
legendary
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Update:
(large pages work better in Firefox than Chrome)

Starter to avoid loading this large index: hilariousandco's Trust list.

The top-navigation-bar wil be updated over the next hours.



I've updated my Personal Full Trust Depth viewer for all users (with last week's data). This is a great way to see the recursive implications of your Trust inclusions.
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If you set your default Trust Depth to more than 2, it may not load anymore.

I've had it 3. I've changed it to 2 now.

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And I think that creating a huge amount of extra data would not be the good direction. This would be more like "on the fly" data / response created from what you already have.
That's what the forum does, but there's just too much data to do it on the fly.


Hmm, I guess you're right.
However, I've changed to 2 and the Trust Depth could be of help next time.

Thank you.
legendary
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I don't know, that btalk feature doesn't work for me.
Do you get a timeout on https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;full? For me, it takes a long time to load, but it works. If you set your default Trust Depth to more than 2, it may not load anymore.

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And I think that creating a huge amount of extra data would not be the good direction. This would be more like "on the fly" data / response created from what you already have.
That's what the forum does, but there's just too much data to do it on the fly.
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I've also made Personal Full Trust Depth viewer for all users a year ago, and last updated it half a year ago. I'm currently running an update, if my script still works it will probably take 2 days to generate a few GB of data.

I don't know, that btalk feature doesn't work for me.
And your list, although comprehensive, doesn't help me much (I just extracted now a name from there for an example). The last version from http://loyce.club/trust/ is already the real thing.
And I think that creating a huge amount of extra data would not be the good direction. This would be more like "on the fly" data / response created from what you already have.

I will give you an example from my list.

Problem: why do I trust moe7865? (not a real problem, just an example)
What I do: going to http://loyce.club/trust/2020-05-16_Sat_05.03h/, searching for the user, see who is trusting him, so:
. . . . . . . . . moe7865
. . . . . . . . . wlefever
worthyou - donalddraper - icon73
mickelody - . . . . . . .  . . - buckrogers

and in buckrogers' list I see yogg, which I know he's in my trust list.

So NeuroticFish - yogg - buckrogers - icon73 - wlefever - moe7865 is one chain.
legendary
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So, back to the idea: it's not easy to go on the trust "tree" and pinpoint the possible weak links = people who most probably you would not actually trust, but they are trusted (also indirectly) by people added to your trust list.
Aren't you just looking for your Trust list - Hierarchical view?
I've also made Personal Full Trust Depth viewer for all users a year ago, and last updated it half a year ago. I'm currently running an update, if my script still works it will probably take 2 days to generate a few GB of data.
Update: update done!

Trust lists quickly get very big because of this:
Custom Trust lists have large recursive implications because the users you trust directly (Depth 0) make you trust the ones they trust (Depth 1), and the users they trust (Depth 2)
legendary
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I don't know if this was discussed until now, I've found myself already a couple of times surfing your lists to find out why I do (indirectly) trust this or that user (usually long gone users!).

It's clearly not a feature request, since last time I asked for WO "last week" viewer and I am sad (ashamed) to hear I am the only one using it now and then; so it's up to you if you find it worthy and add it or not.

So, back to the idea: it's not easy to go on the trust "tree" and pinpoint the possible weak links = people who most probably you would not actually trust, but they are trusted (also indirectly) by people added to your trust list. However, if the software knows who are you and who is the culprit, it should not be hard to find the "lines" of interest (not sure though how that could be displayed).
legendary
Activity: 3290
Merit: 16489
Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
Update:
Starting point of the week to avoid loading the large index file: Lauda's Trust list.
I like the "Trust backstabbing", which could be the most sincere form of Trust:
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Trust list for: Lauda (Trust: +33 / =6 / -4) (1615 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP) (created 2020-05-16_Sat_05.03h)
Back to index

Lauda Trusts these users' judgement:
1. gmaxwell (Trust: +15 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (22) 2797 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
7. ibminer (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (9) 774 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
13. suchmoon (Trust: +14 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (37) 4136 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

~Lauda's judgement is Distrusted by:
3. gmaxwell (Trust: +15 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (22) 2797 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
7. ibminer (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (9) 774 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
13. suchmoon (Trust: +14 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (37) 4136 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

Trust list: backscratchers: users agree, they trust or distrust each other.
Trust list: backstabbers: users disagree, one user trust the other, while the other distrust him.

Source: LoyceV's Trust list viewer.
Get your own Trust list in BBCode at loyce.club/trust.

The top-navigation-bar is still updating. BPIP's links to my Trust list viewer are updated already for easy navigation.
legendary
Activity: 3290
Merit: 16489
Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
Update:
The top-navigation-bar is still updating.

Weekly starting point to avoid loading the large index file: Trust list for theymos.
legendary
Activity: 3290
Merit: 16489
Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
They rate your website a B+ in "privacy," and it blocks everything below an A.
Loyce.club doesn't use cookies, and doesn't use social media tracking. The only reason I can think of is the lack of SSH, which is on my Todo list.
I don't think it is because of archiving posts.

I chose you over them.
Cheesy
legendary
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The culprit was an extension that I was using was blocking off my access to the site... It was the DuckDuckGo extension.
That's really weird

They rate your website a B+ in "privacy," and it blocks everything below an A. It's OK, don't be offended, I chose you over them.
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