Historical note-
The squiggle is called a tilde, and it comes from the Medieval Latin word titulus. This means "stroke over an abridged word to indicate missing letters". Find out more here - https://www.etymonline.com/word/tilde
Stroke over an abridged poster to indicate missing content sounds about right to me.
Topic: [130 weeks] [Updated Jul 10] LoyceV's Trust list viewer - Create your own! - page 20. (Read 22386 times)
January 14, 2020, 01:33:27 PM
January 14, 2020, 01:31:03 PM
Kind reminder and request: please stay on topic in my topic 
I don't mind someone spamming his own Trust list, as long as he doesn't pollute the rest.
~DefaultTrust's Trust list now looks like this:
For new usernames, I think ~ just slipped through. But there's not really a problem, I just tested it, and adding "~DefaultTrust" to your Trust list means excluding DefaultTrust, and doesn't mean including ~DefaultTrust.
To exclude ~DefaultTrust, use:
LoyceV add this: show the raw Trust list for blacklisted users, this shouldn't be a loophole to hide their Trust list from my viewer!
This is done I don't mind someone spamming his own Trust list, as long as he doesn't pollute the rest.~DefaultTrust's Trust list now looks like this:
Couldn't the forum software disallow the creation of usernames with such character, at least minimally as the first character? Anyone know?
I know it got more restricted at some point, some older usernames have much weirder characters than "~" in them. It's a pain to deal with, but since the username is used to login, it can't just be changed either.For new usernames, I think ~ just slipped through. But there's not really a problem, I just tested it, and adding "~DefaultTrust" to your Trust list means excluding DefaultTrust, and doesn't mean including ~DefaultTrust.
To exclude ~DefaultTrust, use:
Code:
~~DefaultTrust
The only reason I haven't excluded him yet is because he's not important enough. I don't think he'll ever reach DT2, so his Trust list abuse is not a problem. 
January 14, 2020, 01:24:52 PM
I may still be a newbie at heart but just curious tho
I suggest you read about trust before you comment.
the user set up the name as a way to game the system - trying to get the whole of default trust excluded from the trust list of anyone who added that user to their trust list
the user did this intentionally to act in a nefarious manner
please read up about it all then come back and apologise to me
thanks
January 14, 2020, 01:20:07 PM
do you have a trust list?
Not yet
do you know how default trust works?
Not really rocket science. I can say I have a slight grasp of what's happening and why (or I may be delusional, I have been known to be wrong before)
Still... what does default trust, trust network, depth, inclusions, exclusions, DT user changes etc have to do with NEGATIVE FEEDBACK FOR THE GUY'S USERNAME ?
I may still be a newbie at heart but just curious tho
The trust system will not be fooled by such a pity excuse for "grey" hacking.
... then come back and apologise to me
As I mentioned before, I have been known to be wrong before, so if I really am in this case and the root of all this is nefarious and not curiosity, as I assume, then will surely do !
January 14, 2020, 01:13:09 PM
There are a fair number of users using ~ in their usernames:
A few non-newbies that use ~ in the beginning:
~
~Money~
~BitSy~
~ErMaK~
~Spawn~
~Master~
~Bitcoin~
~Trololoh~
~CrockRoch~
~Coinseeker~
~BtcRoll.com~
~AnonCoinMan~
I don't see anything wrong with that. What is the difference between ~ or / or # or #^&#&^#^#&#%#&$#^$#&#^ ? (except the number of characters) Can't comprehend what the big deal is thb.
There is no hack, no wrong use of any forum system, no harm...
No offense but that even sounds wrong "I do not trust this user due to the username they set up"
That feedback should be withdrawn. There is no rational reason for that (even if user is not bothered too much about it, as it seems)
A few non-newbies that use ~ in the beginning:
~
~Money~
~BitSy~
~ErMaK~
~Spawn~
~Master~
~Bitcoin~
~Trololoh~
~CrockRoch~
~Coinseeker~
~BtcRoll.com~
~AnonCoinMan~
I don't see anything wrong with that. What is the difference between ~ or / or # or #^&#&^#^#&#%#&$#^$#&#^ ? (except the number of characters) Can't comprehend what the big deal is thb.
There is no hack, no wrong use of any forum system, no harm...
No offense but that even sounds wrong "I do not trust this user due to the username they set up"
That feedback should be withdrawn. There is no rational reason for that (even if user is not bothered too much about it, as it seems)
My only problem is that the squiggly ("~") at the beginning of the username is used in the trustlist maintenance to indicate distrust of a member, so in that regard, it seems potentially confusing to the system to be using that squiggly.. at least in the beginning of the username...that seems to be why TMAN is redflagging ~DefaultTrust. Another reason, of course, is that sometimes members will bolster their trustlist by either including or excluding defaulttrust from their trust list, so having that "~DefaultTrust" as a username could inadvertently cause members to trust that member when they had not intended to do so.
January 14, 2020, 01:05:52 PM
That feedback should be withdrawn. There is no rational reason for that (even if user is not bothered too much about it, as it seems)
do you have a trust list?
do you know how default trust works?
if you answer no to the above then you shouldn't be commenting here,
January 14, 2020, 01:00:56 PM
There are a fair number of users using ~ in their usernames:
A few non-newbies that use ~ in the beginning:
~
~Money~
~BitSy~
~ErMaK~
~Spawn~
~Master~
~Bitcoin~
~Trololoh~
~CrockRoch~
~Coinseeker~
~BtcRoll.com~
~AnonCoinMan~
I don't see anything wrong with that. What is the difference between ~ or / or # or #^&#&^#^#&#%#&$#^$#&#^ ? (except the number of characters) Can't comprehend what the big deal is thb.
There is no hack, no wrong use of any forum system, no harm...
No offense but that even sounds wrong "I do not trust this user due to the username they set up"
That feedback should be withdrawn. There is no rational reason for that (even if user is not bothered too much about it, as it seems)
A few non-newbies that use ~ in the beginning:
~
~Money~
~BitSy~
~ErMaK~
~Spawn~
~Master~
~Bitcoin~
~Trololoh~
~CrockRoch~
~Coinseeker~
~BtcRoll.com~
~AnonCoinMan~
I don't see anything wrong with that. What is the difference between ~ or / or # or #^&#&^#^#&#%#&$#^$#&#^ ? (except the number of characters) Can't comprehend what the big deal is thb.
There is no hack, no wrong use of any forum system, no harm...
No offense but that even sounds wrong "I do not trust this user due to the username they set up"
That feedback should be withdrawn. There is no rational reason for that (even if user is not bothered too much about it, as it seems)
January 14, 2020, 11:38:08 AM
Just for fun.
Enjoy the tag for being a slippery cunt then
I don't know if i understand the whole concept to allow any user to create a name with "~" as the first character.. or even if it is necessary to allow that character to be in the user name at all? Couldn't the forum software disallow the creation of usernames with such character, at least minimally as the first character? Anyone know? Loyce?
Seems misleading, as TMAN's red tag of "~DefaultTrust" suggests.
January 14, 2020, 07:20:45 AM
Just for fun.
Enjoy the tag for being a slippery cunt then
January 14, 2020, 07:11:12 AM
why the fuck would you set up that username? then add all those users to your trust list?
Just for fun.
I'm resting on this forum, not making money (as someone lol)
January 14, 2020, 07:04:56 AM
BTW:
TMAN, you're coming across as a real asshole here.
you are a scummy piece of stink nugget - pretty sure everyone else will agree with me on this
why the fuck would you set up that username? then add all those users to your trust list? stupid cuntwanker
January 14, 2020, 06:50:43 AM
I'll give you a loophole: empty your Trust list each Saturday morning, right before theymos' weekly Trust data dump. Then, after theymos' update, you can restore your Trust list for the following week.
If you do this weekly, the only way to see your Trust list will be if someone includes only you (please don't use a DT1-account for this!).
If you do this weekly, the only way to see your Trust list will be if someone includes only you (please don't use a DT1-account for this!).
Not a very convenient way
The dump from theymos not easy to parse without technical means. But your site provides the ability to view the data to any noob.
For example: the dump from theymos is like encrypted (poor encrypted) wallet, but your service is a password.
BTW:
TMAN, you're coming across as a real asshole here.
January 14, 2020, 06:20:32 AM
Maybe some people don’t like that their trust list is so easily accessible.
I'm okay with that. And so is theymos, see http://bitcointalk.org/trust.txt.xz.Quote
To prevent such hacker way it may be will better if you will blacklist users at their request?
I've been asked to censor data before. I don't censor data.However, if you want a loophole out of my Trust list viewer, I'll give you a loophole: empty your Trust list each Saturday morning, right before theymos' weekly Trust data dump. Then, after theymos' update, you can restore your Trust list for the following week.
If you do this weekly, the only way to see your Trust list will be if someone includes only you (please don't use a DT1-account for this!). This should show the 30,000 users you've included on their Depth 1.
Thanks for helping me improve my Trust list viewer
January 14, 2020, 06:01:38 AM
To prevent such hacker way it may be will better if you will blacklist users at their request?
FUCK OFF YOU SCAMMY PIECE OF SHIT
why on earth set up a user like this? twatnozzle cunt
January 14, 2020, 05:56:21 AM
LoyceV add this: show the raw Trust list for blacklisted users, this shouldn't be a loophole to hide their Trust list from my viewer!
Maybe some people don’t like that their trust list is so easily accessible.
To prevent such hacker way it may be will better if you will blacklist users at their request?
January 13, 2020, 06:02:29 PM
LoyceV add this: show the raw Trust list for blacklisted users, this shouldn't be a loophole to hide their Trust list from my viewer!
January 11, 2020, 01:40:57 PM
9 hour bump, I know I'm breaking bending the rules but I also know people are waiting for this update. See edited previous post for the link!
As discussed in the past week: you're going to want to use Firefox. Chrome won't load the (very large) page.
Update:
As discussed in the past week: you're going to want to use Firefox. Chrome won't load the (very large) page.
Update:
January 11, 2020, 04:23:08 AM
There are 30,000 more Trust relations this week than last week. The total went up from 41,582 to 71,860, which means data processing takes much longer.
The number of users on or with a custom Trust list went up from 13,128 last week to currently 42,305. This also means the people who couldn't load the last update in Chrome for sure can't load the new version. It's going to be big!
I don't know yet if I caught all recent username changes. If I missed one, I'll have to restart today's update.
Update: I found the cause, see Request: Nuke user ~DefaultTrust for impersonating and Trust List trolling. I'll create my first Trust list viewer blacklist, I don't want my data to be polluted by a troll. Congratulations to ~DefaultTrust for being the first user to get his Trust list blacklisted by me
Update:
There's a temporary version of my Trust list viewer available:
http://loyce.club/other/tmp/blacklist_reason/2020-01-11_Sat_05.10h/index.html
This ridiculously long list shows the reason for blacklisting ~DefaultTrust. See also the ridiculously long Trust list for: ~DefaultTrust.
Blacklist implemented
The number of users on or with a custom Trust list went up from 13,128 last week to currently 42,305. This also means the people who couldn't load the last update in Chrome for sure can't load the new version. It's going to be big!
I don't know yet if I caught all recent username changes. If I missed one, I'll have to restart today's update.
Update: I found the cause, see Request: Nuke user ~DefaultTrust for impersonating and Trust List trolling. I'll create my first Trust list viewer blacklist, I don't want my data to be polluted by a troll. Congratulations to ~DefaultTrust for being the first user to get his Trust list blacklisted by me
Update:
NEW: Blacklist
The following users are blacklisted for Trust list spam:
Being blacklisted means I don't process their Trust list. I still show their inclusions/exclusions from other users.
The following users are blacklisted for Trust list spam:
Being blacklisted means I don't process their Trust list. I still show their inclusions/exclusions from other users.
There's a temporary version of my Trust list viewer available:
http://loyce.club/other/tmp/blacklist_reason/2020-01-11_Sat_05.10h/index.html
This ridiculously long list shows the reason for blacklisting ~DefaultTrust. See also the ridiculously long Trust list for: ~DefaultTrust.
Blacklist implemented
Quote
Trust list for: ~DefaultTrust (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP) (created 2020-01-11_Sat_18.59h)
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~DefaultTrust Trusts these users' judgement:
This user is blacklisted from showing his Trust list on loyce.club because of Trust list spam.
~DefaultTrust Distrusts these users' judgement:
This user is blacklisted from showing his Trust list on loyce.club because of Trust list spam.
Source: LoyceV's Trust list viewer.
Get your own Trust list in BBCode at loyce.club/trust.
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~DefaultTrust Trusts these users' judgement:
This user is blacklisted from showing his Trust list on loyce.club because of Trust list spam.
~DefaultTrust Distrusts these users' judgement:
This user is blacklisted from showing his Trust list on loyce.club because of Trust list spam.
Source: LoyceV's Trust list viewer.
Get your own Trust list in BBCode at loyce.club/trust.
January 06, 2020, 02:50:44 PM
I wouldn't know what to change to make Chrome load it, maybe 50,000-ish links without proper HTML headings is a bit much.
I wouldn't worry to much. Just put in a warning header or something of the sorts. Most people have a second browser available if they normally use chrome. Worst case scenario you copy paste the link or bookmark the page in that browser if you don't want to log into the forum through it.Maybe it's just me but it was really only a small annoyance that's why I never brought it up and just kept trucking along.
January 06, 2020, 02:41:02 PM
I'm on mobile and can't check for sure - I know it doesn't work on my phones chrome either.
I have the same problem on mobile, and indeed, that's Chrome.Simple fix - use Firefox. 
I do, that's why I didn't have the problem. I wouldn't know what to change to make Chrome load it, maybe 50,000-ish links without proper HTML headings is a bit much. Jump to: