[130 weeks] [Updated Jul 10] LoyceV's Trust list viewer - Create your own! - page 21.

LoyceV

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Quote from: GreatArkansas on February 08, 2020, 02:52:19 AM

I think you mistyped or forgot to change something.

You caught a rare moment: I accidentally ran my update too early (before theymos' data dump), so it used last week's data and (for the first time) used my fully automated update. So I removed the 2020-02-08_Sat_01.13h from the server again, but forgot about bots using latestversion.txt.
~~I expect the correct update to be ready in about 90 minutes.~~ Done!

Update:

Quote from: LoyceV on January 25, 2019, 05:15:17 PM

56. http://loyce.club/trust/2020-02-08_Sat_07.44h

It'll take about 1 hour to update the top-navigation bar for this week, and from there my update will work backwards updating the navigation for previous weeks. This will take about 7 hours. Until then, if the latest page (week 56) isn't available yet: go to week 56 first, and continue from there.

GreatArkansas

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Hi @LoyceV, I found some minor problems here. As I told you that I am playing to code some bot based on your Trust list viewer, I just recently discovered this.

Code:

http://loyce.club/trust/latestversion.txt
[b]content[/b] http://loyce.club/trust/2020-02-08_Sat_01.13h/

But in your index here: http://loyce.club/trust/
The latest one is 2020-02-01_Sat_05.15h/.
The path 2020-02-08_Sat_01.13h/ not yet existing.
I think you mistyped or forgot to change something.

LoyceV

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Quote from: Timelord2o67 on February 01, 2020, 05:40:54 AM

I may not have explained myself properly, what I was meaning is when I'm looking at other people's trust pages, it'd be nice to see at a glance who the black-banned UID's are that either support or oppose any given user.

I got what you meant

I just don't think it's worth adding.

I found a bug:

Quote

Trust list for: SlipstreamStore (Trust: awaiting update) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP) (created 2020-02-01_Sat_05.15h)
Back to index

SlipstreamStore Trusts these users' judgement:
-

SlipstreamStore Distrusts these users' judgement:
-

SlipstreamStore's judgement is Trusted by:
-

~SlipstreamStore's judgement is Distrusted by:
-

Source: LoyceV's Trust list viewer.
Get your own Trust list in BBCode at loyce.club/trust.

From the data dump:

Code:

SlipstreamStore->theslimmyguy

Account theslimmyguy was created just a day before the data dump, and my list of usernames failed to update.

It's a Newbie without posts, so I'm not going to fix this now. I've added an alert in case this happens again in the future.

Timelord2o67

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I may not have explained myself properly, what I was meaning is when I'm looking at other people's trust pages, it'd be nice to see at a glance who the black-banned UID's are that either support or oppose any given user.

Thanks for reading.

LoyceV

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Quote from: PrimeNumber7 on February 01, 2020, 03:08:19 AM

I don't know how heavily your site is used, but my guess is 95%+ of your HTML files are never accessed by anyone. If someone accesses a particular page n times, your server would need to generate the HTML n times.

I know I should switch to some database, and it's been suggested many times, but I simply don't have the time to learn how to do it and change everything. I don't really mind the 6 hours computation time, because it doesn't take much of my time. Currently, my Merit data analysis takes much more processing time, and that would be the next thing to make more manageable, but there too, I need the time.
Meanwhile, I just started another project dealing with 50 million files, for which I'm taking a slightly different approach. And I have another project I want to start. It would probably be good to start using a database at least for new projects, but realistically, it probably won't happen.

Quote from: LoyceV on February 01, 2020, 02:29:33 AM

Let's see how long it takes for the navigation bar to update Cheesy

It's done already, not bad Cheesy

The previous weeks will be updated in the coming hours.

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Quote from: LoyceV on January 29, 2020, 06:37:48 AM

I've finished re-writing the code for the top-navigation-bar. It now "only" takes 6 hours to update instead of 2 days, and from now on the required processing power only increases at a linear instead of exponential rate.

This is much longer than it should. You should consider using jinja templates versus having millions of individual files, each with their own HTML. This would result in your server/computer generating the HTML at the time a user accesses a page instead of when you update your data. It would also mean you can update your data ~instantly.

I don't know how heavily your site is used, but my guess is 95%+ of your HTML files are never accessed by anyone. If someone accesses a particular page n times, your server would need to generate the HTML n times. I think most likely, this will result in total less processing time, but even if not the case, the computational power required to generate one HTML page is nominal, so you will likely not ever have a backlog of things to compute.

LoyceV

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Quote from: Timelord2o67 on February 01, 2020, 12:02:22 AM

Apologies if this has been asked before, is there any chance those users who have been black-baned from voting be shown in a different colour such as grey please?

My Trust list viewer isn't meant to see DT1-votes, so I'm not going to add a blacklist for DT1-voting.
It is included though on my DT1-election: Rank up pipeline: All known blacklisted users don't count for voting (see that topic for the list).

Quote from: LoyceV on January 25, 2019, 05:15:17 PM

55. http://loyce.club/trust/2020-02-01_Sat_05.15h

Let's see how long it takes for the navigation bar to update Cheesy

Timelord2o67

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Apologies if this has been asked before, is there any chance those users who have been black-baned from voting be shown in a different colour such as grey please?

Some of the H8 conglomerate of shill/sockpuppets are on the list as trusting me, but given their votes are meaningless, can they be greyed out if possible? (Even if their profile is clicked on so it doesn't turn purple).

Thanks.

LoyceV

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I've finished re-writing the code for the top-navigation-bar. It now "only" takes 6 hours to update instead of 2 days, and from now on the required processing power only increases at a linear instead of exponential rate.
Out of this 6 hours, 2 hours is for updating the newest version, the remaining 4 hours is for updating the older weeks. This should make it easier to quickly browse the latest Trust list viewer.

It's kind of a dirty code now, so please let me know if anything goes wrong with the navigation bar. So far, I haven't found any bugs.

Foxpup

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Looks like everyone's favourite feline is back in the game.

LoyceV

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Update:

Quote from: LoyceV on January 25, 2019, 05:15:17 PM

54. http://loyce.club/trust/2020-01-25_Sat_05.12h

It was updated hours ago, but I forgot to post here.

I'm working on improving the performance of updating the navigation bar on top. This has been on my Todo since I created it, and every week it takes exponentially more processing power to complete. I worked on this past week, but needed this week's new data for further testing. If all goes well, next week the navigation bar should be updated on Saturday morning.

LoyceV

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Update:

Quote from: LoyceV on January 25, 2019, 05:15:17 PM

53. http://loyce.club/trust/2020-01-18_Sat_05.16h

I expect the navigation bar at the top to be updated either Sunday evening or Monday morning. Until then, you'll have to navigate to the above URL because you can't go to the last page from older pages (I noticed the update is sometimes overlooked because of this).

I now have a full year of Trust list history Cheesy

I noticed a minor inaccuracy: one username wasn't on my DT1-list because of a name change. This problem existed last week already.
I'm not going to update this now, it'll be fixed next week.

marlboroza

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Quote from: JayJuanGee on January 14, 2020, 12:13:09 PM

My only problem is that the squiggly ("~") at the beginning of the username is used in the trustlist maintenance to indicate distrust of a member, so in that regard, it seems potentially confusing to the system to be using that squiggly.. at least in the beginning of the username...that seems to be why TMAN is redflagging ~DefaultTrust. Another reason, of course, is that sometimes members will bolster their trustlist by either including or excluding defaulttrust from their trust list, so having that "~DefaultTrust" as a username could inadvertently cause members to trust that member when they had not intended to do so.

It is very simple:

Excluding or including account ~DefaultTrust won't do anything to "default trust", however, I won't recommend including them, your trust network page will freeze because of things mentioned by LoyceV.

Jet Cash

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Historical note-

The squiggle is called a tilde, and it comes from the Medieval Latin word titulus. This means "stroke over an abridged word to indicate missing letters". Find out more here - https://www.etymonline.com/word/tilde

Stroke over an abridged poster to indicate missing content sounds about right to me.

LoyceV

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Kind reminder and request: please stay on topic in my topic

Quote from: LoyceMobile on January 13, 2020, 05:02:29 PM

LoyceV add this: show the raw Trust list for blacklisted users, this shouldn't be a loophole to hide their Trust list from my viewer!

This is done

I don't mind someone spamming his own Trust list, as long as he doesn't pollute the rest.
~DefaultTrust's Trust list now looks like this:

Quote from: LoyceV on January 11, 2020, 03:23:08 AM

Couldn't the forum software disallow the creation of usernames with such character, at least minimally as the first character? Anyone know?

I know it got more restricted at some point, some older usernames have much weirder characters than "~" in them. It's a pain to deal with, but since the username is used to login, it can't just be changed either.
For new usernames, I think ~ just slipped through. But there's not really a problem, I just tested it, and adding "~DefaultTrust" to your Trust list means excluding DefaultTrust, and doesn't mean including ~DefaultTrust.
To exclude ~DefaultTrust, use:

Code:

~~DefaultTrust

The only reason I haven't excluded him yet is because he's not important enough. I don't think he'll ever reach DT2, so his Trust list abuse is not a problem.

TMAN

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Quote from: Chlotide on January 14, 2020, 12:20:07 PM

I may still be a newbie at heart but just curious tho

I suggest you read about trust before you comment.

the user set up the name as a way to game the system - trying to get the whole of default trust excluded from the trust list of anyone who added that user to their trust list

the user did this intentionally to act in a nefarious manner

please read up about it all then come back and apologise to me

thanks

Chlotide

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Quote from: TMAN on January 14, 2020, 12:05:52 PM

do you have a trust list?

Not yet

Quote from: TMAN on January 14, 2020, 12:05:52 PM

do you know how default trust works?

Not really rocket science. I can say I have a slight grasp of what's happening and why (or I may be delusional, I have been known to be wrong before)

Still... what does default trust, trust network, depth, inclusions, exclusions, DT user changes etc have to do with NEGATIVE FEEDBACK FOR THE GUY'S USERNAME ?
I may still be a newbie at heart but just curious tho

The trust system will not be fooled by such a pity excuse for "grey" hacking.

Quote from: TMAN on January 14, 2020, 12:24:52 PM

... then come back and apologise to me

As I mentioned before, I have been known to be wrong before, so if I really am in this case and the root of all this is nefarious and not curiosity, as I assume, then will surely do !

JayJuanGee

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Quote from: Chlotide on January 14, 2020, 12:00:56 PM

There are a fair number of users using ~ in their usernames:
A few non-newbies that use ~ in the beginning:
~
~Money~
~BitSy~
~ErMaK~
~Spawn~
~Master~
~Bitcoin~
~Trololoh~
~CrockRoch~
~Coinseeker~
~BtcRoll.com~
~AnonCoinMan~

I don't see anything wrong with that. What is the difference between ~ or / or # or #^&#&^#^#&#%#&$#^$#&#^ ? (except the number of characters) Can't comprehend what the big deal is thb.
There is no hack, no wrong use of any forum system, no harm...

No offense but that even sounds wrong "I do not trust this user due to the username they set up"
That feedback should be withdrawn. There is no rational reason for that (even if user is not bothered too much about it, as it seems)

My only problem is that the squiggly ("~") at the beginning of the username is used in the trustlist maintenance to indicate distrust of a member, so in that regard, it seems potentially confusing to the system to be using that squiggly.. at least in the beginning of the username...that seems to be why TMAN is redflagging ~DefaultTrust. Another reason, of course, is that sometimes members will bolster their trustlist by either including or excluding defaulttrust from their trust list, so having that "~DefaultTrust" as a username could inadvertently cause members to trust that member when they had not intended to do so.

TMAN

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Quote from: Chlotide on January 14, 2020, 12:00:56 PM

That feedback should be withdrawn. There is no rational reason for that (even if user is not bothered too much about it, as it seems)

do you have a trust list?
do you know how default trust works?

if you answer no to the above then you shouldn't be commenting here,

Chlotide

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There are a fair number of users using ~ in their usernames:
A few non-newbies that use ~ in the beginning:
~
~Money~
~BitSy~
~ErMaK~
~Spawn~
~Master~
~Bitcoin~
~Trololoh~
~CrockRoch~
~Coinseeker~
~BtcRoll.com~
~AnonCoinMan~

I don't see anything wrong with that. What is the difference between ~ or / or # or #^&#&^#^#&#%#&$#^$#&#^ ? (except the number of characters) Can't comprehend what the big deal is thb.
There is no hack, no wrong use of any forum system, no harm...

No offense but that even sounds wrong "I do not trust this user due to the username they set up"
That feedback should be withdrawn. There is no rational reason for that (even if user is not bothered too much about it, as it seems)

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