Topic: [130 weeks] [Updated Jul 10] LoyceV's Trust list viewer - Create your own! - page 34. (Read 23932 times)

Only 20, actually. Cryptohunter seems to have his own agenda, despite (probably) being an alt of some of the others. Not fair to count him. I've tagged the rest.

I'm not particularly concerned.  I gave them an obligatory taunt post in their reputation thread. I'm sure it will be deleted, shortly.

I am also on the list, and have been newly "~" by 21 users since last week, all of whom seem to be using this list. A very quick count shows that between the 21 of them they have somewhere in the region of 25 "10 merit votes", and nowhere near a single "250 merit vote". If their current rates of earning merit were to continue, it would take them approximately 6 years to get a single person on that list voted on to DT1. Given their inclusion list includes 154 people, I'm not sure they've really thought out their plan.

Also, a bunch of said users are clearly alts. For example:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/tinamoran-1586404
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/pininggarcia-1586551
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/pinggermoco-1586585
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/nilamutac-1586656

I don't have a posting bot yet, so it requires some manual work. I'm still fighting with some usernames, such as user "*" (included by 3 users) break things on my end.

I wondered what I was doing wrong.   It's all good though.   At least you didn't leave a rave review on my rimming talents or that I spread doomsday virus.  

However, I have been put on a list of accounts to exclude from people's trust list in reputation. So I suspect the new list Loyce comes out with is going to have many people giving me the ~ bird.

H8bussesNbicycles

I reckon the data has to be updated manually?  I ended up adding bones261 and amishmanish to my distrust list, and subsequently removed them several days ago, but they still show up in my distrust list when checking the data on your webpage.

To be honest, I don't know why I added them to my distrust list in the first place.  Both seem like reasonably good guys and have left feedback with which I cannot disagree.

Ok this is another helpful idea like your "Full merit transaction history for any user - now with GRAPHS!" project. In the Full merit transaction project - one can see individual'ss merit history using the userID: 1432468

Do you have any such idea for this Trust list viewer project too (Or I am missing something, I am sorry these days I am not following the forum much.)?

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Update: Never mind I figured LOL
mdayonliner

Correct. Out of 2.5 million userIDs, only about 10k have a custom trust list, or are mentioned on someone else's.
The first entry is a bug I still have to find, but I choose to add Backstabbers, Merit and BBCode first.

I assume the only users that show there (and therefore have their own page/file), are those mentioned in the weekly trust.txt.xz file dumped from the trust system.

If you never included/excluded anyone or never was included/excluded by anyone, you won’t show up there (because you are not on the dump file).

Hey LoyceV... Thanks for compiling this information. 

I have a bit of a basic question that probably has been explained a zillion times, but I am unclear about how the member profile numbers and the numbers that are shown in the compiled list?  Likely I am more interested about the gaps.

>>>>>>>i1314775: tsoyens01 (0 Merit earned) (Trust feedback) (Trust list)
3: satoshi (1635 Merit earned) (Trust feedback) (Trust list) (BPIP)
4: sirius (2 Merit earned) (Trust feedback) (Trust list) (BPIP)
12: nanaimogold (0 Merit earned) (Trust feedback) (Trust list) (BPIP)
13: SmokeTooMuch (12 Merit earned) (Trust feedback) (Trust list) (BPIP)
14: The Madhatter (0 Merit earned) (Trust feedback) (Trust list) (BPIP)
30: BitcoinFX (51 Merit earned) (Trust feedback) (Trust list) (BPIP)
33: m0mchil (1 Merit earned) (Trust feedback) (Trust list) (BPIP)
35: theymos (3702 Merit earned) (Trust feedback) (Trust list) (BPIP)
51: DannyM (0 Merit earned) (Trust feedback) (Trust list) (BPIP)
163: Karmicads (1 Merit earned) (Trust feedback) (Trust list) (BPIP)<<<<<<


Why do the numbers go directly to 3 and 4 with satoshi and sirius respectively, and then to 12, 13, 14, and for example there are a whole bunch missing profile numbers between 51 and 163?  The gaps persist through the whole list, even down to the very end of the list, and the profile number gaps even seem to become bigger and BIGGER.


>>>>>2526482: ~DefaultTrust (0 Merit earned) (Trust feedback) (Trust list) (BPIP)
2530845: itomarketing (0 Merit earned) (Trust feedback) (Trust list) (BPIP)
2532474: BlockItalia.net (0 Merit earned) (Trust feedback) (Trust list) (BPIP)
2533257: sanju_redy (0 Merit earned) (Trust feedback) (Trust list) (BPIP)<<<<<<


Are those mission profiles that were created, but never activated or logged into?  Are some kinds of members removed from the list, such as banned members and other categories?  Can you provide a quickie explanation or point me to a page that explains member profile numbers?

Umm..Isn't he like The Peter Todd ? I have read him being described as the Maximalist's maximalist..

And Thanks a lot for this Loyce. I saw a user who distrusted me and have sent them a PM to discuss it. Looks like the user didn't leave feedback and I would never have known otherwise without your handy tool. It makes me less intimidated about the Trust system and wiling to learn and apply it. You've lowered the entry barrier..Congrats!

I don't mean to nerd out too much, here (o.k.. yes I do, I admit it  ).  But since you guys(& gal perhaps?), present as a bunch of nerds, I will suggest that based on the forum's 30 day algorithm, you, suchmoon, don't have to wait until February 1 to send smertis to Loyce.

I believe that you will be able to send Loyce 4 smerits on January 31 (and only up to 4 smerits) based on your having had sent Loyce 4 smerits on January 1.  Accordingly, those 4 smerits will become greater than 30 days old on January 31 and your 50 smerit max will then become 46 smerits in regards to Loyce..

Accordingly, if you were to attempt to maintain your maximum of 50 smerits per month towards Loyce for a period into the future, your 30 day algorithmically imposed ability to send smerits to Loyce would be like this:


Sent smerit:                 Replenish in 30 days on:
January 1  =  4   >>>>    January  31
January 2  =  4   >>>>    February 1
January 4  =  4   >>>>    February 3
January 6  =  7  >>>>     February 5
Etc... etc... etc....

This can be useful indeed, I've added it to my TODO list.

Thanks! This is exactly the kind of thing I was looking for. I've added it, and it instantly looks less like the '90s.

Thanks This one was actually one of the fastest to make, but I expect it to be used more than the Merit data.

Slightly

That's like giving temporary superpowers to users

I love it! Backstabbing for trust can be very useful to add:
green: mutual trust (=backscratching)
red: one user trust the other, but the other distrusts the first user (=backstabbing)

I thought the voucher kinda implied that it's useful

It saves me from having to add people to my list in order to see their lists, which is kinda dangerous at DT1 level.

Edit: please don't do a backscratching/backstabbing version... that might turn into a real stabbing

This is amazing! Thank you Loyce, this list can come in handy when I do my chores as laudas bitch.

Loyce I am consistently amazed by your data aggregations.

Looking at your Trust List summaries I am reminded of the Civilization game series where you can see how the leaders of each civilization feel towards you. And then scrolling through the trust list of adversaries/friends you can deduce things like, "ah, the enemy of my enemy is my friend," or "yeah that guy has good tastes"... etc. Its pretty entertaining, and even educational.

Good work!


You don't really need to do a lot of CSS designing on it because it would take a lot of time and it isn't really a necessity since the only purpose of this is to provide information which it already does, but I would like to suggest a small thing, which you may implement if you like to.

Maybe removing the underlines from the links would make the list look somehow better for the eyes of the navigator. It would be easier to spot names when scrolling if there aren't underlines (I can be wrong though).

This is how the list looks right now:


This is what I'm suggesting:


It isn't difficult to implement. All you need to do is to add an internal CSS style tag, and then set the text-decoration property of all anchor elements (links) of the page to none. Below is how to do it:


Add this code inside the head tag of the page, and it would do the work for you.

Note: Mind the color change of the texts in the suggestion image. It is because I clicked the links and their state changed from link to visited (link and visited are link states in HTML).

Computers don't experience emotions. Stop trying to fools us with your mind circuit games.

But yes, this is very useful. Using the trust dump to see users' trust lists is easy enough, but using it to see who trusts or distrusts a particular user is time consuming and clunky - your list makes this much easier. Your suggestion regarding users with 8 or 9 inclusion is a good one. What might also be useful is to mark which users are currently DT1 - 9 inclusions isn't that relevant if the user in question also has 10 DT1 exclusions.

Boring layout isn't really an issue - it is uncluttered and easy to navigate.

Lol a Merit voucher?

I'm disappointed there isn't a single on-topic post I need feedback: is this useful? Does it give too much information? Or not enough?

On-topic: I found back this post:
I have 4 updates planned
1. Add Merit-scores Done!
2. I'd like to highlight users who are close to DT1, say with 8 or 9 out of 10 inclusions, but it's going to be difficult with theymos' algorythm that determines which votes go to which user. Done! See DT1-election: Rank up pipeline.
3. Mark users who are currently on DT1 Done! Thanks o_e_l_e_o:
Unfortunately I can't scrape this, but I can make a list after each update (once a month?).
4. Mark backscratching and backstabbing with green and red font. Done!

For now, I've only included this morning's trust data dump. See http://loyce.club/trust/2019-01-26_Sat_12.14h/, still with the same known small problems.