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legendary
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legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1001
minds.com/Wilikon
legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1001
minds.com/Wilikon






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I found the highest resolution photograph of the clock I could. Instantly, I was disappointed. Somewhere in all of this – there has indeed been a hoax. Ahmed Mohamed didn’t invent his own alarm clock. He didn’t even build a clock. Now, before I go on and get accused of attacking a 14 year old kid who’s already been through enough, let me explain my purpose. I don’t want to just dissect the clock. I want to dissect our reaction as a society to the situation. Part of that is the knee-jerk responses we’re all so quick to make without facts. So, before you scroll down and leave me angry comments, please continue to the end (or not – prove my point, and miss the point, entirely!)


http://blogs.artvoice.com/techvoice/2015/09/17/reverse-engineering-ahmed-mohameds-clock-and-ourselves/

i totally agree with him, I'm not sure about the clock and and really dont know if he built it. this quote from the article summarizes my opinion exactly "Everyone jumped to play the race and religion cards and try and paint the teachers and police as idiots and bigots, but in my mind, they were probably acting responsibly and erring on the side of caution to protect the rest of their students"


He is happy now




"Would be funny if he used all of this stuff to build an actual bomb."
https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/3llkt1/someone_is_happy_new_gadgets_arrived_to_ahmed/


hero member
Activity: 826
Merit: 504






[...]
I found the highest resolution photograph of the clock I could. Instantly, I was disappointed. Somewhere in all of this – there has indeed been a hoax. Ahmed Mohamed didn’t invent his own alarm clock. He didn’t even build a clock. Now, before I go on and get accused of attacking a 14 year old kid who’s already been through enough, let me explain my purpose. I don’t want to just dissect the clock. I want to dissect our reaction as a society to the situation. Part of that is the knee-jerk responses we’re all so quick to make without facts. So, before you scroll down and leave me angry comments, please continue to the end (or not – prove my point, and miss the point, entirely!)


http://blogs.artvoice.com/techvoice/2015/09/17/reverse-engineering-ahmed-mohameds-clock-and-ourselves/


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14yo fraud.




Yeah man, he didn't actually build a clock. Obama made the whole thing up to get more Twitter followers.
hero member
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[...]
I found the highest resolution photograph of the clock I could. Instantly, I was disappointed. Somewhere in all of this – there has indeed been a hoax. Ahmed Mohamed didn’t invent his own alarm clock. He didn’t even build a clock. Now, before I go on and get accused of attacking a 14 year old kid who’s already been through enough, let me explain my purpose. I don’t want to just dissect the clock. I want to dissect our reaction as a society to the situation. Part of that is the knee-jerk responses we’re all so quick to make without facts. So, before you scroll down and leave me angry comments, please continue to the end (or not – prove my point, and miss the point, entirely!)


http://blogs.artvoice.com/techvoice/2015/09/17/reverse-engineering-ahmed-mohameds-clock-and-ourselves/

i totally agree with him, I'm not sure about the clock and and really dont know if he built it. this quote from the article summarizes my opinion exactly "Everyone jumped to play the race and religion cards and try and paint the teachers and police as idiots and bigots, but in my mind, they were probably acting responsibly and erring on the side of caution to protect the rest of their students"
legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1001
minds.com/Wilikon






[...]
I found the highest resolution photograph of the clock I could. Instantly, I was disappointed. Somewhere in all of this – there has indeed been a hoax. Ahmed Mohamed didn’t invent his own alarm clock. He didn’t even build a clock. Now, before I go on and get accused of attacking a 14 year old kid who’s already been through enough, let me explain my purpose. I don’t want to just dissect the clock. I want to dissect our reaction as a society to the situation. Part of that is the knee-jerk responses we’re all so quick to make without facts. So, before you scroll down and leave me angry comments, please continue to the end (or not – prove my point, and miss the point, entirely!)


http://blogs.artvoice.com/techvoice/2015/09/17/reverse-engineering-ahmed-mohameds-clock-and-ourselves/


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14yo fraud.


hero member
Activity: 826
Merit: 504
just to be on the same page, apparently it goes like this :

Kid builds inside a suitcase a clock, it has a timer (a clock is a timer).
Kid shows building to engineering teacher, who said to kid to hide the suitcase
Kid hides the suitcase goes to English class
Beep beep beep from the suitcase, hidden in the bag
The English teacher panics and call for LE
LE comes handcuff kid
Kid goes to jail for kids
Father is called and bring the kid home.

end of the story?


False information is in red.

The teacher actually "confiscated" the clock, which is not what they're told to do in case of an actual bomb threat. They're meant to call the bomb squad and evacuate, the one thing they are told to do is to absolutely never "confiscate" a bomb. There was discourse between the student and the teacher, the teacher said "Looks like a bomb to me" and took it after the alarm went off. The police came, and notified the school staff that the device was not dangerous. The kid was suspended for three days and a letter was given to parents, and this is after charges were falsified.
hero member
Activity: 756
Merit: 500
just to be on the same page, apparently it goes like this :

Kid builds inside a suitcase a clock, it has a timer (a clock is a timer).
Kid shows building to engineering teacher, who said to kid to hide the suitcase
Kid hides the suitcase goes to English class
Beep beep beep from the suitcase, hidden in the bag
The English teacher panics and call for LE
LE comes handcuff kid
Kid goes to jail for kids
Father is called and bring the kid home.
end of the story?
thats pretty much what happened, and then the kid goes infront of social media and thanks " his supporters". like wtf is this, you got arrested for potentially being in control of a weapon, when the charge was falsified, you were let go. WTF is a supporter??? Huh
newbie
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just to be on the same page, apparently it goes like this :

Kid builds inside a suitcase a clock, it has a timer (a clock is a timer).
Kid shows building to engineering teacher, who said to kid to hide the suitcase
Kid hides the suitcase goes to English class
Beep beep beep from the suitcase, hidden in the bag
The English teacher panics and call for LE
LE comes handcuff kid
Kid goes to jail for kids
Father is called and bring the kid home.

end of the story?
hero member
Activity: 518
Merit: 500
Islam and Nazism are belief systems, not races.
Oh, I do apologize. Here in Canada, "ENG" is short for "English" in high school.

As a Canadian myself, I can confirm this. Plus, here in canada, "plug in" and "batteries" mean the same thing. It can be confusing, obviously.

Hey, are you near Toronto? Maybe at some point we could meet up. I can show you a clock I'm building.

I'm in Ontario.

Well, then we probably will meet up at some Bitcoin event at some point. If so, I'll make sure to introduce myself and show you my cool clock.
hero member
Activity: 826
Merit: 504
My favorite aspect of this is that a 14 year old boy can make a clock from scratch but his engineering teacher doesn't even know what he's looking at. Perhaps the kid should be teaching the class?

apparently he showed it to his ENG teacher, who then told him that it looks similar to a bomb and he should be careful showing it to people. He then later pulled it out of his bag and plugged it in , to show how it beeps to the class. that was when it was confiscated and everything escalated.
imo, he is getting too much attention, I dont think he was arrested because he is Muslim, HE GOT ARRESTED BECAUSE HE HAD A BRIEFCASE WITH A TIMER IN IT. Now everyone is talking about how the education system in place sucks and how they treat Muslims differently.  Sad Huh

Actually, he "proudly offered it to his engineering teacher", according to the Dallas Morning News. Not his English teacher. He said not to show it to anyone, not that it resembles a bomb.

He didn't pull it out of his bag and "plug it in", you can't "plug in" a homemade clock, it runs on batteries. It beeped because of an alarm during class.

If there was a legitimate bomb threat, they would never confiscate the bomb, they would call in the bomb squad and have students evacuate the premises. In not doing so they pretty much killed the entire school. They didn't think it was a bomb, they just wanted to **** with a brown kid (This is the first time I drop the F bomb on this forum).
the version that he made didn't run on batteries, it was a plug in clock. and by ENG i meant Engineering.

Oh, I do apologize. Here in Canada, "ENG" is short for "English" in high school.

As a Canadian myself, I can confirm this. Plus, here in canada, "plug in" and "batteries" mean the same thing. It can be confusing, obviously.

Hey, are you near Toronto? Maybe at some point we could meet up. I can show you a clock I'm building.

I'm in Ontario.
hero member
Activity: 518
Merit: 500
Islam and Nazism are belief systems, not races.
They didn't think it was a bomb, they just wanted to **** with a brown kid

Argument from authority! Plus, kind of racist. Argument from racist authority!

Do you know what argument from authority is?

Yes. I'm making fun of the fact that you don't. Or in language you can understand: wah, wah, wah wah, wah wah, wah. Moron.

Argumentum Ad Hominem

Hey, you got one right! Good job!
hero member
Activity: 518
Merit: 500
Islam and Nazism are belief systems, not races.
My favorite aspect of this is that a 14 year old boy can make a clock from scratch but his engineering teacher doesn't even know what he's looking at. Perhaps the kid should be teaching the class?

apparently he showed it to his ENG teacher, who then told him that it looks similar to a bomb and he should be careful showing it to people. He then later pulled it out of his bag and plugged it in , to show how it beeps to the class. that was when it was confiscated and everything escalated.
imo, he is getting too much attention, I dont think he was arrested because he is Muslim, HE GOT ARRESTED BECAUSE HE HAD A BRIEFCASE WITH A TIMER IN IT. Now everyone is talking about how the education system in place sucks and how they treat Muslims differently.  Sad Huh

Actually, he "proudly offered it to his engineering teacher", according to the Dallas Morning News. Not his English teacher. He said not to show it to anyone, not that it resembles a bomb.

He didn't pull it out of his bag and "plug it in", you can't "plug in" a homemade clock, it runs on batteries. It beeped because of an alarm during class.

If there was a legitimate bomb threat, they would never confiscate the bomb, they would call in the bomb squad and have students evacuate the premises. In not doing so they pretty much killed the entire school. They didn't think it was a bomb, they just wanted to **** with a brown kid (This is the first time I drop the F bomb on this forum).
the version that he made didn't run on batteries, it was a plug in clock. and by ENG i meant Engineering.

Oh, I do apologize. Here in Canada, "ENG" is short for "English" in high school.

As a Canadian myself, I can confirm this. Plus, here in canada, "plug in" and "batteries" mean the same thing. It can be confusing, obviously.

Hey, are you near Toronto? Maybe at some point we could meet up. I can show you a clock I'm building.
hero member
Activity: 826
Merit: 504
My favorite aspect of this is that a 14 year old boy can make a clock from scratch but his engineering teacher doesn't even know what he's looking at. Perhaps the kid should be teaching the class?

apparently he showed it to his ENG teacher, who then told him that it looks similar to a bomb and he should be careful showing it to people. He then later pulled it out of his bag and plugged it in , to show how it beeps to the class. that was when it was confiscated and everything escalated.
imo, he is getting too much attention, I dont think he was arrested because he is Muslim, HE GOT ARRESTED BECAUSE HE HAD A BRIEFCASE WITH A TIMER IN IT. Now everyone is talking about how the education system in place sucks and how they treat Muslims differently.  Sad Huh

Actually, he "proudly offered it to his engineering teacher", according to the Dallas Morning News. Not his English teacher. He said not to show it to anyone, not that it resembles a bomb.

He didn't pull it out of his bag and "plug it in", you can't "plug in" a homemade clock, it runs on batteries. It beeped because of an alarm during class.

If there was a legitimate bomb threat, they would never confiscate the bomb, they would call in the bomb squad and have students evacuate the premises. In not doing so they pretty much killed the entire school. They didn't think it was a bomb, they just wanted to **** with a brown kid (This is the first time I drop the F bomb on this forum).
the version that he made didn't run on batteries, it was a plug in clock. and by ENG i meant Engineering.

Oh, I do apologize. Here in Canada, "ENG" is short for "English" in high school.
hero member
Activity: 756
Merit: 500
My favorite aspect of this is that a 14 year old boy can make a clock from scratch but his engineering teacher doesn't even know what he's looking at. Perhaps the kid should be teaching the class?

apparently he showed it to his ENG teacher, who then told him that it looks similar to a bomb and he should be careful showing it to people. He then later pulled it out of his bag and plugged it in , to show how it beeps to the class. that was when it was confiscated and everything escalated.
imo, he is getting too much attention, I dont think he was arrested because he is Muslim, HE GOT ARRESTED BECAUSE HE HAD A BRIEFCASE WITH A TIMER IN IT. Now everyone is talking about how the education system in place sucks and how they treat Muslims differently.  Sad Huh

Actually, he "proudly offered it to his engineering teacher", according to the Dallas Morning News. Not his English teacher. He said not to show it to anyone, not that it resembles a bomb.

He didn't pull it out of his bag and "plug it in", you can't "plug in" a homemade clock, it runs on batteries. It beeped because of an alarm during class.

If there was a legitimate bomb threat, they would never confiscate the bomb, they would call in the bomb squad and have students evacuate the premises. In not doing so they pretty much killed the entire school. They didn't think it was a bomb, they just wanted to **** with a brown kid (This is the first time I drop the F bomb on this forum).
the version that he made didn't run on batteries, it was a plug in clock. and by ENG i meant Engineering.
hero member
Activity: 826
Merit: 504
They didn't think it was a bomb, they just wanted to **** with a brown kid

Argument from authority! Plus, kind of racist. Argument from racist authority!

Do you know what argument from authority is?

Yes. I'm making fun of the fact that you don't. Or in language you can understand: wah, wah, wah wah, wah wah, wah. Moron.

Argumentum Ad Hominem
hero member
Activity: 518
Merit: 500
Islam and Nazism are belief systems, not races.
They didn't think it was a bomb, they just wanted to **** with a brown kid

Argument from authority! Plus, kind of racist. Argument from racist authority!

Do you know what argument from authority is?

Yes. I'm making fun of the fact that you don't. Or in language you can understand: wah, wah, wah wah, wah wah, wah. Moron.
hero member
Activity: 826
Merit: 504
They didn't think it was a bomb, they just wanted to **** with a brown kid

Argument from authority! Plus, kind of racist. Argument from racist authority!

Do you know what argument from authority is?
hero member
Activity: 518
Merit: 500
Islam and Nazism are belief systems, not races.
They didn't think it was a bomb, they just wanted to **** with a brown kid

Argument from authority! Plus, kind of racist. Argument from racist authority!
hero member
Activity: 826
Merit: 504
My favorite aspect of this is that a 14 year old boy can make a clock from scratch but his engineering teacher doesn't even know what he's looking at. Perhaps the kid should be teaching the class?

apparently he showed it to his ENG teacher, who then told him that it looks similar to a bomb and he should be careful showing it to people. He then later pulled it out of his bag and plugged it in , to show how it beeps to the class. that was when it was confiscated and everything escalated.
imo, he is getting too much attention, I dont think he was arrested because he is Muslim, HE GOT ARRESTED BECAUSE HE HAD A BRIEFCASE WITH A TIMER IN IT. Now everyone is talking about how the education system in place sucks and how they treat Muslims differently.  Sad Huh

Actually, he "proudly offered it to his engineering teacher", according to the Dallas Morning News. Not his English teacher. He said not to show it to anyone, not that it resembles a bomb.

He didn't pull it out of his bag and "plug it in", you can't "plug in" a homemade clock, it runs on batteries. It beeped because of an alarm during class.

If there was a legitimate bomb threat, they would never confiscate the bomb, they would call in the bomb squad and have students evacuate the premises. In not doing so they pretty much killed the entire school. They didn't think it was a bomb, they just wanted to **** with a brown kid (This is the first time I drop the F bomb on this forum).
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