Topic: 2019 Cricket World Cup - Discussion & Analysis - page 27. (Read 8264 times)

Not sure why you mentioned Sachin failed in overseas and later showed a data of subcontinent area.
Sachin total century in ODI- 49
In India- 20
In overseas- 29

In test, out of 51 century, he has 29 century in overseas.

Sachin is only one piece, as royse said, he is the one for which at least India has such big batting line up.
Sachin failed against Bret Lee? Mcgrath?

 Shane Warne

Never ever compare Sachin Tendulkar with anyone else in world cricket, Lara and Sachin are the greatest modern day cricketers and you have to be ashamed if you compare legendary players who played the game of cricket when there was bigger grounds and better world class bowlers and good pitches and there were no rules favoring the batsmen when they started playing and they scored runs around the globe. Kohli is a good player and we know how many world class bowlers are there in world cricket now  .

I do not want to justify him. He earned his place and I think he is still inspirational and considered as cricket God in India.

Sachin always faced criticism for not performing well in overseas pitches. I can remember dozens of matches, in which he failed against good bowling lineups (especially the Australian combo of Glenn McGrath and  Brett Lee). Out of his 49 ODI hundreds only 12 were scored outside the sub-continent (less than one-fourth and this includes centuries against Kenya and Zimbabwe).  

But I agree when you say that he was hugely inspirational. At his peak, he was the most popular individual in India. Even more than any Bollywood actor or national politician.

Excuse me, Sachin is a character who inspired thousands of batsman around the world and if I am not wrong then Kohli, Dhoni are some of them. If Sachin was not exist then you would not find Kohli or others who grew up with a dream that one day they will play like him. Sehwag is no near to Sachin.

There are no comparison for Sachin not even Lara. He was one of another kind.

The dismal performance of Indian openers still continues in the warm up matches, KL Rahul and Dhoni is in the crease and Rahul is on the verge of a century (just scored his century). I am not what is the best playing eleven for India as they are shuffling many players and even the team management have not come to a decision on what the team combination should be even at the verge of a world tournament which tells that India wont perform that well in this World Cup which is a sad tale for all the Indians.

Dude, Virat Kohli is 10 times better than Sachin and Sehwag combined. I don't have anything against Sachin. But I believe that he was given a larger than life image by the media. The vast majority of his tons came against weak sides such as Zimbabwe and Kenya, and that too on flat tracks. BTW, I don't have anything against Bangladesh... the border is just 20 km from my village.

Dada, I agree people (only fans) takes Bangladesh team very lightly, but it's not the case for any opposition team. Every team is aware of how hard Bangladesh play and try when it comes to Cricket.

I, for one, will not be going to take them lightly when playing against India or other teams. They may lose the game, but without a fight? I doubt it. They are very much capable of upsetting any team in their day. However, I feel that they seem to lose every crunch moment, it's sad, but it looks funny when they repeatedly do this. They need to do something about that if they want to stand out in this World Cup edition.

Indian team and Indian fans don't miss Sachin and Sehwag any more because Indian top 3 batsmen are arguably best in business when it comes to ODI and If top 3 performs then 99% chances are India going to win matches because Rohit and Kohli never gets out quickly after scoring 100, they make big 100s and if Sikhar gets going then watch out its very dangerous combination.

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About the Last match between India vs New Zealand

I saw many fans saying that Indian batsmen performed very poorly which is 100% true, but everyone failed to see or avoid to mention that it was seaming-dark green wicket with the cloud over the head during the first inning — best condition for bowlers to bawl. Indian Captain Virat intentionally chose to bat first so that Indian batting can come under the microscope, and in this test, they failed miserably without any doubt. ( here I see Intent and awareness from Virat Kohli. which is a perfect sign for Indian Team)

And if seaming condition comes into play in the World cup, then every team going to struggle like that, not just India. Winning the toss is very important if it happens. And everybody knows, the Indian Bowling attack is no dummy as it used to be in the past.

I am saying as well that it is not 2007 
In 2007, we didn't have No 1 all rounder (he was fairly new that time), we didn't have captain like Mashrafee and a batting line up like current one. We will miss Ashraful, but India will also miss Sachin, Sehwag.
Don't take it so easy. I have to admit that India is better than us, but that doesn't mean we can't win. We can, and we have proved that.

Bangladesh indeed is a balanced team. They have been a good team for years but are filled with young players and don't have enough experience and still they don't haven't reached in the level of wining a world cup.
Similar is Afghanistan, young and energetic players but they can't compete with the class action of established ODI teams.

I am not sure BCCI has anything to do with the reduction of teams playing in the world cup, you need to have an entertainment format in world tournaments, we all know what happened in 2007 world cup which had many teams including six associate member teams and it was a boring and long tournament and ICC might have learned from that experience and wanted only competitive cricket and you cannot blame as you do not want to see one sided match all day long.

Back then, BCCI was being controlled by the greedy businessman N Srinivasan. He never cared about cricket and only wanted to make money through hook or crook. He is so greedy that he kicked out his son from his ancestral house without giving him his due share of ancestral property (his son is a homosexual and Srinivasan used it as a justification). And he got good companionship from two equally greedy guys, Giles Clarke of England and Wally Edwards of Australia. A film titled "Death of a Gentleman" was released in 2015 on this subject.

But now things have changed. Fed up with all the corruption in BCCI, the supreme court of India kicked out the businessmen and politicians, and appointed a bunch of former players as CoA to run the BCCI.

Well India is the business centre of ICC, no one can ignore it. The biggest market for them is there.

Anyway I posted the below on the other topic and thought to post it here to just in case anyone missed it,

Ive heard that BCCI played a big part in the reduction of teams. They basically rule the ICC as most of the money is made because of team India generates the highest revenue and lesser the teams the greater chance team India has to reach the finals. India does have a good team but so does a few more teams now like England and Australia. Going to be a good tournament never the less. Excited for it to start.

I see there are a lot of talk about Bangladesh. So I stick my nose too :-P
Bangladesh is a very balanced team. They are showing consistence performance (The last series is the prove). May be they are not a team who can win WC but they can be a very good competitor against India, Australia and England who has most chances to win WC.

By the way, anyone watching Afghanistan vs England?

LOL... that was the reason why the ICC reduced the number of participants from 16 to 10. India lost to Bangladesh, failed to qualify for the quarter-finals, and in the end the TV broadcasters suffered huge losses. But times have changed a lot. Now India is among the top 3 sides, while Bangladesh is miles behind. 2007 seems like a very distant memory.

@Pffrt you are right now Bangladesh is very good and balanced side they can give any shock to any big team and this world cup is going to be very exciting as we have some very good and balanced sides predicting for any team is very hard as all have equal chance.

Don't take it so much easy. Back in 2007, the Indian team was not so weak, Bangladesh was pretty weak than the current team. Can you remember the day?
Don't think that India is better team means Bangladesh can't defeat them. Bangladesh now is no less than a big team, I admit chances are low, but not impossible. Remember.

You are right and sometimes it is impossible to gain runs in the warmup matches but who play the warmup match perfectly that doesn't mean they are going to win the world cup. So we should wait for the real game to be started and for India, it is a very tough job to play in England pitches.

Srilanka, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Afghanistan and West Indies are out of the count. They will not even qualify for the semi final. India is unpredictable for now. I doubt India will qualify for the final, the maximum can be Semi final.