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Quote from: TravelMug on September 06, 2024, 02:09:20 AM

He hates center after his playing time in the NBA, like Dwight Howard who he thinks copy his style, and then Gobert as too soft for being a center. But he respects the greats before him. So yeah, he could be a bully, but during his prime no one can stop him because of his sheer size and strength and pound for pound, I think he is one of the strongest and hardest player to guard in his time.

This is the reply of Gobert,

Yeah, Shaq was almost unstoppable during his prime, and I personally enjoyed watching Shaq dominate the paint. However, it's worth noting that young Yao Ming was clearly a surprise and caused him some trouble on the court.
Overall, I'm glad to see some older players criticizing current-generation NBA players for being too soft.

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^ Shaq hates on every center. Him being a bully is the worst part of his persona. I still love him, but his opinions on other big men are garbage. Rudy Gobert does suck though. lol

That's the typical Shaq that we've got and always hear him to say such things about other centers and will compare it to his wonderful NBA career.

Well, he's got something to boast for but unlike any other veterans, they're chill, humble and such. I think he's personally humble but when it comes to the game, he's really becoming the bully.

I think Gobert has replied on his X's.

The funniest thing is that Shaq always refers to himself as the "president of the big man association", so he thinks he is speaking for every big man/center in the league.
Yet, he lashes out to almost everybody always. Grin

Sure he has a good heart (so it seems) and does a lot of charity work and so on but basketball wise his is so often the biggest hater around. When is is out of arguments he always comes back to his "how many rings do you have" phrase, hahaha. Don't know how often Sir Charles had to hear this.
Gotta love and hat the man at the same time.

That Shaqtin' a Fool episode, he really started it! One of the most popular big men featured in those clips was JaVale McGee, and I think these two had some heated exchanges at one point. I can't lie, I loved the episodes with JaVale McGee on Shaqtin' a Fool. Don't blame me, I just love to laugh.

Yeah, but here it's a interview on Shaq on some podcast and so you will really have to read between the lines on what he says on Gobert and Ben Simmons. He talks about big contracts and yet they are not fulfilling the money that teams have offered to both of them, specially Gobert.

But Gobert did a good number defensively though and that's what he is known for. To change the shots or block the shots of their opponent. He had his fair share of being posterized by big dunkers but it's part of being the defensive player of the year, you have to challenge anyone in the ring and meet them upstairs.

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Quote from: OgNasty on September 05, 2024, 01:47:55 PM

^ Shaq hates on every center. Him being a bully is the worst part of his persona. I still love him, but his opinions on other big men are garbage. Rudy Gobert does suck though. lol

That's the typical Shaq that we've got and always hear him to say such things about other centers and will compare it to his wonderful NBA career.

Well, he's got something to boast for but unlike any other veterans, they're chill, humble and such. I think he's personally humble but when it comes to the game, he's really becoming the bully.

I think Gobert has replied on his X's.

The funniest thing is that Shaq always refers to himself as the "president of the big man association", so he thinks he is speaking for every big man/center in the league.
Yet, he lashes out to almost everybody always. Grin

Sure he has a good heart (so it seems) and does a lot of charity work and so on but basketball wise his is so often the biggest hater around. When is is out of arguments he always comes back to his "how many rings do you have" phrase, hahaha. Don't know how often Sir Charles had to hear this.
Gotta love and hat the man at the same time.

That Shaqtin' a Fool episode, he really started it! One of the most popular big men featured in those clips was JaVale McGee, and I think these two had some heated exchanges at one point. I can't lie, I loved the episodes with JaVale McGee on Shaqtin' a Fool. Don't blame me, I just love to laugh.

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Quote from: boyptc on September 05, 2024, 06:16:12 PM

Quote from: OgNasty on September 05, 2024, 01:47:55 PM

^ Shaq hates on every center. Him being a bully is the worst part of his persona. I still love him, but his opinions on other big men are garbage. Rudy Gobert does suck though. lol

That's the typical Shaq that we've got and always hear him to say such things about other centers and will compare it to his wonderful NBA career.

Well, he's got something to boast for but unlike any other veterans, they're chill, humble and such. I think he's personally humble but when it comes to the game, he's really becoming the bully.

I think Gobert has replied on his X's.

The funniest thing is that Shaq always refers to himself as the "president of the big man association", so he thinks he is speaking for every big man/center in the league.
Yet, he lashes out to almost everybody always. Grin

Sure he has a good heart (so it seems) and does a lot of charity work and so on but basketball wise his is so often the biggest hater around. When is is out of arguments he always comes back to his "how many rings do you have" phrase, hahaha. Don't know how often Sir Charles had to hear this.
Gotta love and hat the man at the same time.

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^^ 4 DPOY and the hate is real for Rudy Gobert, Lol. I mean it could have been jealousy from Shaq, yeah for sure he got a big contract with the Wolves and all of that. But I think Wolves management wouldn't offer that kind of money for Gobert if they are not satisfied of him as a player when he was still as a Jazz.

I think it's just pure hate as well, perhaps he was thinking that if this is the era that he plays, he could have made a lot of money. But the thing is that Shaq has a good investment portfolio and rich as hell, but I don't think that he should hate on another center in Gobert.

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Quote from: boyptc on September 05, 2024, 06:16:12 PM

Quote from: OgNasty on September 05, 2024, 01:47:55 PM

^ Shaq hates on every center. Him being a bully is the worst part of his persona. I still love him, but his opinions on other big men are garbage. Rudy Gobert does suck though. lol

That's the typical Shaq that we've got and always hear him to say such things about other centers and will compare it to his wonderful NBA career.

Well, he's got something to boast for but unlike any other veterans, they're chill, humble and such. I think he's personally humble but when it comes to the game, he's really becoming the bully.

I think Gobert has replied on his X's.

He hates center after his playing time in the NBA, like Dwight Howard who he thinks copy his style, and then Gobert as too soft for being a center. But he respects the greats before him. So yeah, he could be a bully, but during his prime no one can stop him because of his sheer size and strength and pound for pound, I think he is one of the strongest and hardest player to guard in his time.

This is the reply of Gobert,

https://x.com/rudygobert27/status/1831763536915394634

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Quote from: OgNasty on September 05, 2024, 01:47:55 PM

^ Shaq hates on every center. Him being a bully is the worst part of his persona. I still love him, but his opinions on other big men are garbage. Rudy Gobert does suck though. lol

That's the typical Shaq that we've got and always hear him to say such things about other centers and will compare it to his wonderful NBA career.

Well, he's got something to boast for but unlike any other veterans, they're chill, humble and such. I think he's personally humble but when it comes to the game, he's really becoming the bully.

I think Gobert has replied on his X's.

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Maybe you haven't seen this yet everybody. Some courts in our country have made a mural of Kyrie Irving.
(https://www.blackenterprise.com/kyrie-irving-basketball-court-mural-philippines/)
It was great piece of art and there are a lot of courts here even in the streets. This is the kind of appreciation that my fellow countrymen gave to their idols like Kyrie. Kyrie has acknowledged this and looking forward to visit the place next year. IIRC, I've also seen a personal rooftop that has made a mural of him too but I forgot the artist.

I've seen this one on the news and the artist who did it is Maya Carandang. I have no idea about the rooftop though and I have not seen that yet.

I've seen a guy did it and posted it on his socials, I can't just remember still the name of the guy but I think it was on FB posted.

I'm not surprised how crazy the Philippines are, as far as basketball, and if I'm not mistaken, when the late Kobe Bryant died, they have like the murals and paintings on every court in the country.

And if you heard the interview of also the late Jerry West, the Logo himself,

So shoutout to the Philippines!!

As for CP3 not winning a ring, yeah it's suck, but I think he obviously want one, but joining Spurs, is not going to help him achieved that big dream.

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As for the case of CP3, not the first time, we have seen a lot of great players not winning a ring, like Charles Barkley and yet they are still in the discussion as great players. Perhaps the closest that CP3 could have won is with the Rockets, but he got injured and so they lost that series against the Warriors and then the Dubs winning that champion that year. They still have a chance next year, but it was a disaster for them.

The fact that Paul signed a one-season contract with the Spurs this offseason indicates that he has probably decided to give up trying to get at least one ring. Obviously, he won't be able to do that with Spurs in the upcoming season. Besides, he will be 40 years old next year, so I wouldn't rule out that the upcoming season could be the last of his career.

Indubitably, he already made a shot with Warriors and Suns but failed to achieve it because he always choke on the crucial matches. He has a lot of chance to get a ring in his prime but I doubt he can get it anymore without joining on super team that can win a champ without his major contributions such as Nuggets or Boston.

Although he can provide a good contribution to Spurs since Wemby can finally have a teammates that will keep passing him the ball. Spurs young players play on their own just to get the spotlight. Paul addition to their roster will give more support focus to Wemby which Pop will probably capitalize.

Yeah he had his shots and anyone that signs a deal with Spurs for a year is for one of 2 things, one to get a lot of playing time. I'm sure he doesn't want to ride bench on a good team. Or two and this is what I thought, he will get traded to a competing team during the year. Expiring contract and vet presence is a nice piece for a contender or a team who lost a guard or 2 to injuries.

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^ Shaq hates on every center. Him being a bully is the worst part of his persona. I still love him, but his opinions on other big men are garbage. Rudy Gobert does suck though. lol

Skip Bayless and Lil Wayne launching some sort of podcast or show should be interesting. I wonder how long that will last if it ever makes it to production.

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Quote from: OgNasty on September 04, 2024, 03:09:09 PM

You can also point to the famous Heatles team that had 3 all stars and the GOAT, yet still managed to get taken down by an aging and sick Dirk Nowitzki. Interestingly, I learned that the reason Mario Chalmers was the point guard for this team instead of Chris Paul was because Wade wouldn’t give up #3 and Paul refused to wear a different number. Imagine retiring ringless and not being a part of the greatest team ever over a Jersey number.

Ouch!

Yes, I can still remember that game when Dirk was eating them alive with his high-percentage shooting and the free throws. I mean, Bosh was there and his height can definitely defend the big man of the Mavericks but still, they made the impossible and won that ring against a superstar-filled team of the Miami Heat.
One of the most unforgettable championships for me and it was so sweet because Dirk was old and I don't think that many NBA fans expected that to happen.

Speaking of big man, here's something.
Shaquille O'Neal calls Rudy Gobert the worst NBA player of all time, explains why Ben Simmons is 'another bum'
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/shaquille-oneal-calls-rudy-gobert-the-worst-nba-player-of-all-time-explains-why-ben-simmons-is-another-bum/

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During an interview with Complex, O'Neal was asked who the worst NBA player of all time is, and he didn't mince words about Minnesota Timberwolves center Rudy Gobert.

O'Neal also sure to get in a jab on Brooklyn Nets forward Ben Simmons as he called Simmons "another bum."

"I'm going to tell you why. Because if you sign a contract for ($250 million), show me 250," O'Neal said. "There's a reason why I walk funny, why I can't turn my neck and why I can't do it because I played for my ($120 million). So you got guys like (Simmons) that f--k the system over and they're making all this money and they can't f---ing play. So I don't respect guys like that.

"Every time I make these comments, people think I'm hating, but these are facts. You got teachers, you got firemen, you got doctors who have real jobs and don't get paid shit."

I like the honesty of the big man but what he is saying is the truth and I agree with it. Some players are being paid way too much and they are not showing why they deserve those contracts.

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As for the case of CP3, not the first time, we have seen a lot of great players not winning a ring, like Charles Barkley and yet they are still in the discussion as great players. Perhaps the closest that CP3 could have won is with the Rockets, but he got injured and so they lost that series against the Warriors and then the Dubs winning that champion that year. They still have a chance next year, but it was a disaster for them.

The fact that Paul signed a one-season contract with the Spurs this offseason indicates that he has probably decided to give up trying to get at least one ring. Obviously, he won't be able to do that with Spurs in the upcoming season. Besides, he will be 40 years old next year, so I wouldn't rule out that the upcoming season could be the last of his career.

Indubitably, he already made a shot with Warriors and Suns but failed to achieve it because he always choke on the crucial matches. He has a lot of chance to get a ring in his prime but I doubt he can get it anymore without joining on super team that can win a champ without his major contributions such as Nuggets or Boston.

Although he can provide a good contribution to Spurs since Wemby can finally have a teammates that will keep passing him the ball. Spurs young players play on their own just to get the spotlight. Paul addition to their roster will give more support focus to Wemby which Pop will probably capitalize.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on September 05, 2024, 03:16:06 AM

As for the case of CP3, not the first time, we have seen a lot of great players not winning a ring, like Charles Barkley and yet they are still in the discussion as great players. Perhaps the closest that CP3 could have won is with the Rockets, but he got injured and so they lost that series against the Warriors and then the Dubs winning that champion that year. They still have a chance next year, but it was a disaster for them.

The fact that Paul signed a one-season contract with the Spurs this offseason indicates that he has probably decided to give up trying to get at least one ring. Obviously, he won't be able to do that with Spurs in the upcoming season. Besides, he will be 40 years old next year, so I wouldn't rule out that the upcoming season could be the last of his career.

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Dirk retired with a sense of fulfillment, having won a championship without joining a powerhouse team. Instead, the Mavericks slowly built a strong team until they achieved success. As for CP3, his ego might have played a role in him being ringless, and now that he's declining, retirement may not be far off for him.

He may not be in the discussion of the best players in NBA history, but being a non-American and winning a championship with his team is already a big success for him. Now, it's time for Luka to bring that success as Dirk continues to inspire the Dallas management and its roster. CP3 has just been unlucky. He had his chance when they faced the Bucks in the NBA Finals, but they fell short. After that, his struggles continued, including his last season with the Warriors, where he wasn't so healthy.

And that's why Dirk is present specially in the finals as he might want to inspired Luka and Kyrie to win another ring for Dallas. And we have seen similarities between this two European, and for sure Luka is also taking inspiration from Dirk himself.

As for the case of CP3, not the first time, we have seen a lot of great players not winning a ring, like Charles Barkley and yet they are still in the discussion as great players. Perhaps the closest that CP3 could have won is with the Rockets, but he got injured and so they lost that series against the Warriors and then the Dubs winning that champion that year. They still have a chance next year, but it was a disaster for them.

I agree, CP3 and James Harden had a great run with the Rockets, and if it weren’t for CP3’s injury, they might have advanced to the NBA Finals. That was when CP3 was still highly regarded, and he definitely elevated the Rockets' performance.

Harden, during that time, was exceptional at drawing fouls, but as the rules changed, his effectiveness dropped. Now, as both are past their primes, it seems like CP3’s best option is to join a championship-caliber team. Even if he won't play big minutes, it would still increase his chances of finally winning a ring.

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Quote from: el kaka22 on September 04, 2024, 11:18:02 PM

I still do not like Wolves with their two towers system. I get that they are happy with it and did alright so far, but Gobert and KAT together never feels like it's a big deal to me, it always felt like it was something that looked a bit shaky and with the small ball world in the basketball era we are in, we are talking about going against the tide.

Sure they are both great players, and yes KAT is not tough enough to be a centre so getting Gobert there was great, but I would trade KAT and get someone else if I was their FO. I know KAT has been there for a long time and fans love him, but they need someone better there, someone that fits better at least and not just better in individual talent. Edwards is amazing, I am sure he will bring them to playoffs again this season.

Why change it though when it is effective last season? They've almost made it to the finals if not for the lack of experience and it shows that KAT and Gobert was a good tandem under the rim, Gobert protecting the rim and then KAT powers himself and then his outside shooting?

So not defending them, but as the saying goes, don't fix thing that is not broken. They will have another run this season with that combination, and with ANT improving again, they could be and as per betting, they are one of the favorites in the West to be on top, if I'm not mistaken.

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Dirk retired with a sense of fulfillment, having won a championship without joining a powerhouse team. Instead, the Mavericks slowly built a strong team until they achieved success. As for CP3, his ego might have played a role in him being ringless, and now that he's declining, retirement may not be far off for him.

He may not be in the discussion of the best players in NBA history, but being a non-American and winning a championship with his team is already a big success for him. Now, it's time for Luka to bring that success as Dirk continues to inspire the Dallas management and its roster. CP3 has just been unlucky. He had his chance when they faced the Bucks in the NBA Finals, but they fell short. After that, his struggles continued, including his last season with the Warriors, where he wasn't so healthy.

And that's why Dirk is present specially in the finals as he might want to inspired Luka and Kyrie to win another ring for Dallas. And we have seen similarities between this two European, and for sure Luka is also taking inspiration from Dirk himself.

As for the case of CP3, not the first time, we have seen a lot of great players not winning a ring, like Charles Barkley and yet they are still in the discussion as great players. Perhaps the closest that CP3 could have won is with the Rockets, but he got injured and so they lost that series against the Warriors and then the Dubs winning that champion that year. They still have a chance next year, but it was a disaster for them.

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I still do not like Wolves with their two towers system. I get that they are happy with it and did alright so far, but Gobert and KAT together never feels like it's a big deal to me, it always felt like it was something that looked a bit shaky and with the small ball world in the basketball era we are in, we are talking about going against the tide.

Sure they are both great players, and yes KAT is not tough enough to be a centre so getting Gobert there was great, but I would trade KAT and get someone else if I was their FO. I know KAT has been there for a long time and fans love him, but they need someone better there, someone that fits better at least and not just better in individual talent. Edwards is amazing, I am sure he will bring them to playoffs again this season.

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Quote from: freedomgo on September 04, 2024, 10:22:02 PM

Dirk retired with a sense of fulfillment, having won a championship without joining a powerhouse team. Instead, the Mavericks slowly built a strong team until they achieved success. As for CP3, his ego might have played a role in him being ringless, and now that he's declining, retirement may not be far off for him.

He may not be in the discussion of the best players in NBA history, but being a non-American and winning a championship with his team is already a big success for him. Now, it's time for Luka to bring that success as Dirk continues to inspire the Dallas management and its roster. CP3 has just been unlucky. He had his chance when they faced the Bucks in the NBA Finals, but they fell short. After that, his struggles continued, including his last season with the Warriors, where he wasn't so healthy.

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You can also point to the famous Heatles team that had 3 all stars and the GOAT, yet still managed to get taken down by an aging and sick Dirk Nowitzki. Interestingly, I learned that the reason Mario Chalmers was the point guard for this team instead of Chris Paul was because Wade wouldn’t give up #3 and Paul refused to wear a different number. Imagine retiring ringless and not being a part of the greatest team ever over a Jersey number.

Wow, never heard about that story, haha. But I must say I am glad they never got CP3, would have been yet another player I deeply dislike joining the Heat at that time.
Also, this would have made that magical Mavericks ring much more difficult obviously. And as I am German and Dirk was always my favorite player this might have spoiled one of the most satisfying experiences of me watching sports ever.

Dirk worked hard to reach that level, and he won the championship because the Mavericks were also loaded with talent. The Heat at that time were just overrated due to their dominance, especially with LeBron and Wade playing together. They had a big three, which probably influenced other teams to start forming their own superteams.

Dirk retired with a sense of fulfillment, having won a championship without joining a powerhouse team. Instead, the Mavericks slowly built a strong team until they achieved success. As for CP3, his ego might have played a role in him being ringless, and now that he's declining, retirement may not be far off for him.

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Quote from: OgNasty on September 04, 2024, 03:09:09 PM

You can also point to the famous Heatles team that had 3 all stars and the GOAT, yet still managed to get taken down by an aging and sick Dirk Nowitzki. Interestingly, I learned that the reason Mario Chalmers was the point guard for this team instead of Chris Paul was because Wade wouldn’t give up #3 and Paul refused to wear a different number. Imagine retiring ringless and not being a part of the greatest team ever over a Jersey number.

Wow, never heard about that story, haha. But I must say I am glad they never got CP3, would have been yet another player I deeply dislike joining the Heat at that time.
Also, this would have made that magical Mavericks ring much more difficult obviously. And as I am German and Dirk was always my favorite player this might have spoiled one of the most satisfying experiences of me watching sports ever.

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