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July 15, 2024, 05:18:18 AM
Let's be real it's no coincidence that his dad was a free agent amd the team that wanted/needed to sign him also drafted his son. 

That makes sense. It puts pressure on the management to meet LeBron's demands to ensure that he'll re-sign with the Lakers. Even if LeBron doesn't say it directly, they already know that they have to please him to keep him. LeBron is not the same player he once was, but his impact on the team is still significant. Plus, his popularity helps generate more income to the team as long as he is playing on the court. That's probably the factor the Lakers considered when they drafted Bronny, even though he might be a non-factor in the actual game.
And that's why people think that he's in control but no. The signs that Lebron has shown through being a free agent is there and he even lessen the contract and years of possible signing. It's a brilliant thing for a dad just to make himself play with his son. Now, they're the first one to make this history. Will they make another history of father and son to have the first championship ring? I guess that's even the better or the best of the best record in history that might have someone try to beat it in the future. And not to mention, his other son Bryce will come soon and I guess that if he's still in the league then another consideration might happen and this is what the fans didn't like after the Lakers drafted Bronny.

That's to accommodate more players, including his son. LeBron really wants to win a championship with the Lakers again, which is why he signed a lower contract. It would be nice for his legacy if that happens again, especially with his son this time. LeBron is a great father and a good person; he has charities to help people, making him a good example as a basketball player.

However, you can't avoid thinking that he might have influenced the Lakers to draft his son. That's probably part of the package, but I don't think the Lakers are at a big loss even if Bronny doesn't average good numbers since his contract isn't that significant. Let's give him one season and see how the Lakers perform.
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July 14, 2024, 09:56:02 PM
Let's be real it's no coincidence that his dad was a free agent amd the team that wanted/needed to sign him also drafted his son. 

That makes sense. It puts pressure on the management to meet LeBron's demands to ensure that he'll re-sign with the Lakers. Even if LeBron doesn't say it directly, they already know that they have to please him to keep him. LeBron is not the same player he once was, but his impact on the team is still significant. Plus, his popularity helps generate more income to the team as long as he is playing on the court. That's probably the factor the Lakers considered when they drafted Bronny, even though he might be a non-factor in the actual game.
And that's why people think that he's in control but no. The signs that Lebron has shown through being a free agent is there and he even lessen the contract and years of possible signing. It's a brilliant thing for a dad just to make himself play with his son. Now, they're the first one to make this history. Will they make another history of father and son to have the first championship ring? I guess that's even the better or the best of the best record in history that might have someone try to beat it in the future. And not to mention, his other son Bryce will come soon and I guess that if he's still in the league then another consideration might happen and this is what the fans didn't like after the Lakers drafted Bronny.
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July 14, 2024, 09:41:54 PM
the commentator said that he played 3 games, scored 15 points, out of 26 shots he only made 6. I don't know if the data is correct or not, I also don't know what the Lakers coach's opinion is about Bronny James' performance, but my The point is that the tendency will be to look at him and then at the country when he was younger and they will simply criticize Bronny James. I believe it would have been a better choice if Bronny James had gone to another team and then when he showed great skills and saw that his father retired and people no longer talk much about his father, then he could accept going to the Lakers if he was invited . because that way he would create his Legacy, without being in his father's shadow
Whatever team he goes it will just be the same.
He will be compared, criticized, and maybe worse to the point that he might break down if he cannot take it mentally. I like what Lebron told the media though when asked about his son. He will create his own future and he will not interfere with it. But I think the support should be there especially mentally because the media won't stop comparing his skills while he is still young to the skills of his father at the same age.

I am curious what it would look like during practices and training camps, I mean father and son, it could become awkward at times especially if the father is doing things with his teammates that he ain't doing at home.
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July 14, 2024, 08:27:18 PM
Chances are most of these guys don't get contracts again.  Bronny probably would not even have been drafted if it weren't for his dad.  Let's be real it's no coincidence that his dad was a free agent amd the team that wanted/needed to sign him also drafted his son.  Bronny was an average freshman in college there were plenty better than him.  My guess is he runs out this contract, his dad retires and then bronny phases out of the NBA getting 10 day contracts on teams just looking to get some interest in there team.
Yes you are right many of these players did not get another contract after their current one ends. Bronny situation is special because his dad is famous basketball player. Bronny did not play that well in college and there were many better players than him. I think he will have hard time making it big in NBA and will probably only get short term contracts or temporary deals because of his dad fame. Sadly his NBA career might be more about his dad success than his own abilities.
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July 14, 2024, 06:32:20 PM
Let's be real it's no coincidence that his dad was a free agent amd the team that wanted/needed to sign him also drafted his son. 

That makes sense. It puts pressure on the management to meet LeBron's demands to ensure that he'll re-sign with the Lakers. Even if LeBron doesn't say it directly, they already know that they have to please him to keep him. LeBron is not the same player he once was, but his impact on the team is still significant. Plus, his popularity helps generate more income to the team as long as he is playing on the court. That's probably the factor the Lakers considered when they drafted Bronny, even though he might be a non-factor in the actual game.
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July 14, 2024, 06:13:43 PM
Bronny's defense is good but he need to be a threat on offense so that he will not became a liability on Lakers. But everything is good and he get that $7.9 million guaranteed contract for 4 years since that means his future is secured  and he has a lot of time to learn and improve in Lakers organization.
That's already a decent pay check to him and for sure once he's done with it, there will be another contract.

It could be again with the Lakers if not, there will be other teams that are willing to take him. We shall wait and see him grow for that period of time.

Aside from his dad, he's got a lot of mentor and willing to for sure.

Chances are most of these guys don't get contracts again.  Bronny probably would not even have been drafted if it weren't for his dad.  Let's be real it's no coincidence that his dad was a free agent amd the team that wanted/needed to sign him also drafted his son.  Bronny was an average freshman in college there were plenty better than him.  My guess is he runs out this contract, his dad retires and then bronny phases out of the NBA getting 10 day contracts on teams just looking to get some interest in there team.
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July 14, 2024, 05:05:34 PM
Bronny's defense is good but he need to be a threat on offense so that he will not became a liability on Lakers. But everything is good and he get that $7.9 million guaranteed contract for 4 years since that means his future is secured  and he has a lot of time to learn and improve in Lakers organization.
That's already a decent pay check to him and for sure once he's done with it, there will be another contract.

It could be again with the Lakers if not, there will be other teams that are willing to take him. We shall wait and see him grow for that period of time.

Aside from his dad, he's got a lot of mentor and willing to for sure.
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July 14, 2024, 04:04:49 PM
Besides Lebron already have the control over Lakers since he will leave the team if his demands doesn’t meet which Lakers doesn’t want to happened.

Lebron and Bronny will be subjected for continuous criticism as long as they playing together tho.

For sure, LeBron can influence the management, but he is not in control yet. His popularity will not help the team if he can't bring them to the playoffs and win another championship. Now, with his son playing with him, that's already historic, but it remains to be seen if his son is deserving of getting drafted. It seems like his NBA dream is too easy, while others really work hard and pray hard for it.
I agree, that he has the influence but he has no control over the entire franchise. He's still a player of it and the management knows what they're up to. They are up for the legacy and that's why they let him be influenced by Lebron. And as for that spot if Bronny is deserving or not, we have to move on and let him do his own numbers this time. Even we keep on charging him with these contexts, it won't change the fact that his career already started and he's got a long way to go.

Lakers is a business and with LeBron and Bronny together they are making money though I agree that LeBron influence is a factor but without him and his son bringing money to the franchise for sure it will be easier to let them go, but it's not the case even LeBron is past on his prime fans who loves him and his legacy will continue to buy tickets and merchants and that's where the Lakers is really enjoying and they will keep that as it is while there are still people who continue doing business with them.

Bronny is only good to watch because of his father, but once his father retires, people will always remember LeBron as a Hall of Famer, but Bronny? not sure. However, there's only one GOAT in the sport, and that is MJ. Also, I doubt people would still follow the Lakers if LeBron retires and the team struggles even with Bronny still on the team. I also think that LeBron knows the real capability of his son and is just trying to use his influence to give some popularity to his son in the NBA, but he knows it will not last because only talent can keep an NBA player in the league, and he has that; his son doesn't.
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July 14, 2024, 03:11:27 PM
Besides Lebron already have the control over Lakers since he will leave the team if his demands doesn’t meet which Lakers doesn’t want to happened.

Lebron and Bronny will be subjected for continuous criticism as long as they playing together tho.

For sure, LeBron can influence the management, but he is not in control yet. His popularity will not help the team if he can't bring them to the playoffs and win another championship. Now, with his son playing with him, that's already historic, but it remains to be seen if his son is deserving of getting drafted. It seems like his NBA dream is too easy, while others really work hard and pray hard for it.
I agree, that he has the influence but he has no control over the entire franchise. He's still a player of it and the management knows what they're up to. They are up for the legacy and that's why they let him be influenced by Lebron. And as for that spot if Bronny is deserving or not, we have to move on and let him do his own numbers this time. Even we keep on charging him with these contexts, it won't change the fact that his career already started and he's got a long way to go.

Lakers is a business and with LeBron and Bronny together they are making money though I agree that LeBron influence is a factor but without him and his son bringing money to the franchise for sure it will be easier to let them go, but it's not the case even LeBron is past on his prime fans who loves him and his legacy will continue to buy tickets and merchants and that's where the Lakers is really enjoying and they will keep that as it is while there are still people who continue doing business with them.
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July 14, 2024, 02:49:51 PM
Besides Lebron already have the control over Lakers since he will leave the team if his demands doesn’t meet which Lakers doesn’t want to happened.

Lebron and Bronny will be subjected for continuous criticism as long as they playing together tho.

For sure, LeBron can influence the management, but he is not in control yet. His popularity will not help the team if he can't bring them to the playoffs and win another championship. Now, with his son playing with him, that's already historic, but it remains to be seen if his son is deserving of getting drafted. It seems like his NBA dream is too easy, while others really work hard and pray hard for it.
I agree, that he has the influence but he has no control over the entire franchise. He's still a player of it and the management knows what they're up to. They are up for the legacy and that's why they let him be influenced by Lebron. And as for that spot if Bronny is deserving or not, we have to move on and let him do his own numbers this time. Even we keep on charging him with these contexts, it won't change the fact that his career already started and he's got a long way to go.
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July 14, 2024, 10:12:22 AM
Brunson wants a ring, that's it. He is trying to give his team room to sign someone else to help the team IMO. I think he felt like last year was their year and they couldn't close it out and now he's pissed and hungry.
Imho, that was not the smartest move if he did it for a ring chance. I would somewhat understand if they were actually close to winning the championship (like for example loosing the final in 7th game) but they got kicked out in conference semifinal (iirc) which was not really close and will have some tough competition on the east in the foreseeable future.


For sure, LeBron can influence the management, but he is not in control yet.
Of course he is in the control there as no way in hell would Lakers (or any other team for that matter) would draft Bronny at his current state which is nowhere good enough for NBA.
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July 14, 2024, 07:56:01 AM
This is not surprising since his father is the most popular player in the NBA franchise. Lebron is the first person in the NBA history who gather All Star on his own team just to get championship. He is the GOAT of making All star team.
He started it and in fact won his championship with the heat, 2 times I guess. But now, these super teams being created may not be working anymore as things have change a lot, those teams with few superstars tend to play better because they have a good chemisty and they play with real team work.

Besides Lebron already have the control over Lakers since he will leave the team if his demands doesn’t meet which Lakers doesn’t want to happened.

Lebron and Bronny will be subjected for continuous criticism as long as they playing together tho.

For sure, LeBron can influence the management, but he is not in control yet. His popularity will not help the team if he can't bring them to the playoffs and win another championship. Now, with his son playing with him, that's already historic, but it remains to be seen if his son is deserving of getting drafted. It seems like his NBA dream is too easy, while others really work hard and pray hard for it.
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July 14, 2024, 06:54:45 AM
A very nice display of his skills.

NBA Summer League, Day 1: Reed Sheppard steals the show vs. Bronny James in Las Vegas
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LAS VEGAS — Basketball fans got a first look at many of the top NBA draft picks during the first day of Las Vegas Summer League. The Thomas & Mack Center sold out for the two marquee games as 19,000 fans packed the gym for Lakers vs. Rockets to see Bronny James in action. But it was Reed Sheppard, the No. 3 pick, who stole the show and helped Houston get the win, 99-80.

When I first read about Bronny James' officially signing for Lakers to play side-by-side with his father, it felt really different.  Smiley  We don't see this kind of things happening in NBA very often in the end.

https://sports.yahoo.com/bronny-james-signs-multi-year-guaranteed-contract-with-the-los-angeles-lakers-report-180125058.html

A four-year deal which is worth 7.9 million dollars in total. Really solid amount for a start I think. LeBron James waited for this moment for a long time. He didn't want to retire before playing with his son in the same team. Now he is about to reach his goal. I'm also excitedly waiting for watching these two together at Lakers.  Smiley  I hope Bronny can also be a special player in NBA one day just like his father.

Most cases in which a person receives a lot of media attention because they are very skilled in some area, be it music, politics, dancing, sports and that person has a child who also follows in the same footsteps as the country, the media tends to They always look at that person's child with high expectations and start to make comparisons with their parents, things like: "when your father was your age he was already a genius" become very common for the child to hear and this creates a lot of pressure on the child. for example, a few days ago, maybe it was yesterday or the day before yesterday, I saw on social media a certain news channel in Portuguese where they said that Bronny James was having a bad performance in the Summer League

the commentator said that he played 3 games, scored 15 points, out of 26 shots he only made 6. I don't know if the data is correct or not, I also don't know what the Lakers coach's opinion is about Bronny James' performance, but my The point is that the tendency will be to look at him and then at the country when he was younger and they will simply criticize Bronny James. I believe it would have been a better choice if Bronny James had gone to another team and then when he showed great skills and saw that his father retired and people no longer talk much about his father, then he could accept going to the Lakers if he was invited . because that way he would create his Legacy, without being in his father's shadow
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July 14, 2024, 06:43:22 AM

This is the first time in history that there's situation like this happened and Lakers is making sure that they going to draft Bronny no matter what it takes since they want to be part of history in this duo, but as well they want to get more bigger revenue for what curiosity of this tandem will be created. For sure lots of Lakers fans is waiting for this season to open since they want how a father and son duo will play together. Although we cannot expect something big for Bronny since we all see that his totally raw or not NBA ready yet but maybe Lakers could do something to improve the performance of that young guy.

Bronny's defense is good but he need to be a threat on offense so that he will not became a liability on Lakers. But everything is good and he get that $7.9 million guaranteed contract for 4 years since that means his future is secured  and he has a lot of time to learn and improve in Lakers organization.

This is not surprising since his father is the most popular player in the NBA franchise. Lebron is the first person in the NBA history who gather All Star on his own team just to get championship. He is the GOAT of making All star team.

Besides Lebron already have the control over Lakers since he will leave the team if his demands doesn’t meet which Lakers doesn’t want to happened.

Lebron and Bronny will be subjected for continuous criticism as long as they playing together tho.
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July 14, 2024, 06:38:00 AM
A very nice display of his skills.

NBA Summer League, Day 1: Reed Sheppard steals the show vs. Bronny James in Las Vegas
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LAS VEGAS — Basketball fans got a first look at many of the top NBA draft picks during the first day of Las Vegas Summer League. The Thomas & Mack Center sold out for the two marquee games as 19,000 fans packed the gym for Lakers vs. Rockets to see Bronny James in action. But it was Reed Sheppard, the No. 3 pick, who stole the show and helped Houston get the win, 99-80.

When I first read about Bronny James' officially signing for Lakers to play side-by-side with his father, it felt really different.  Smiley  We don't see this kind of things happening in NBA very often in the end.

https://sports.yahoo.com/bronny-james-signs-multi-year-guaranteed-contract-with-the-los-angeles-lakers-report-180125058.html

A four-year deal which is worth 7.9 million dollars in total. Really solid amount for a start I think. LeBron James waited for this moment for a long time. He didn't want to retire before playing with his son in the same team. Now he is about to reach his goal. I'm also excitedly waiting for watching these two together at Lakers.  Smiley  I hope Bronny can also be a special player in NBA one day just like his father.

This is the first time in history that there's situation like this happened and Lakers is making sure that they going to draft Bronny no matter what it takes since they want to be part of history in this duo, but as well they want to get more bigger revenue for what curiosity of this tandem will be created. For sure lots of Lakers fans is waiting for this season to open since they want how a father and son duo will play together. Although we cannot expect something big for Bronny since we all see that his totally raw or not NBA ready yet but maybe Lakers could do something to improve the performance of that young guy.

Bronny's defense is good but he need to be a threat on offense so that he will not became a liability on Lakers. But everything is good and he get that $7.9 million guaranteed contract for 4 years since that means his future is secured  and he has a lot of time to learn and improve in Lakers organization.
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July 14, 2024, 06:02:37 AM
A very nice display of his skills.

NBA Summer League, Day 1: Reed Sheppard steals the show vs. Bronny James in Las Vegas
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LAS VEGAS — Basketball fans got a first look at many of the top NBA draft picks during the first day of Las Vegas Summer League. The Thomas & Mack Center sold out for the two marquee games as 19,000 fans packed the gym for Lakers vs. Rockets to see Bronny James in action. But it was Reed Sheppard, the No. 3 pick, who stole the show and helped Houston get the win, 99-80.

When I first read about Bronny James' officially signing for Lakers to play side-by-side with his father, it felt really different.  Smiley  We don't see this kind of things happening in NBA very often in the end.

https://sports.yahoo.com/bronny-james-signs-multi-year-guaranteed-contract-with-the-los-angeles-lakers-report-180125058.html

A four-year deal which is worth 7.9 million dollars in total. Really solid amount for a start I think. LeBron James waited for this moment for a long time. He didn't want to retire before playing with his son in the same team. Now he is about to reach his goal. I'm also excitedly waiting for watching these two together at Lakers.  Smiley  I hope Bronny can also be a special player in NBA one day just like his father.
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So as a Chicago Bulls fan I'm not real excited about the offseason or next year as we are horrible.  I'm curious though what everything thinks of the Demar DeRozan trade, and what do ya'll think about Zach Lavine still being a member of this Chicago Bulls?  I think it's sort of crazy that he's still on the team.  We have to real use for him since we have no shot at any sort of championship and he's just a wasted asset as I see it..

For the fans of Bulls, this might be bad though, I mean Lavine shows interest to leave as early as January last year when he got injured. But with the news that DeRozan has left already, so the management can't simply let Lavine goes as there will be no one to carry the team unless they are willing to go to another hiatus and built up.

And there are news that: Bulls Rumors: 'Growing Belief' Nikola Vucevic Could Be Traded if DeMar DeRozan Leaves.

So it doesn't really look good for the Bulls next season I supposed.

I wouldn’t call losing Lavine or Vuc bad. Jerry , the Bulls owner has held the bulls (the NBAs best ticket seller) in NBA purgatory for countless years at this point. Winning is not what matters to him. He won 6 championships with the NBAs all time best player and seem content with that being that and just making money going forward. Why I won’t support the bulls money wise any more.

Lavine is a great scorer but his D is shit and he’s A BIT of a locker room disrupter

Vuc, blows. He was solid double double guy on the Magic who sucked donkey balls so he stood out but he couldn’t defend a 10 year old 4 foot kid. His scoring is extremely hit or miss.

The blow up needs to happen, but what then. I have zero hope in that shit organization.

Its like their team exist for entertainment and they don't have plans to win a championship. There decision making is really off that's why they get bad results each year. Also we don't see any big movement especially on their trading decision since they didn't get much stars to help their team to win.

No question about capability of Lavine but he's not enough. Also he don't have trade value that's why maybe Bulls are trapped with him since he can't get rid of the guy then get more better players to help Bulls next season.

Last time bulls became great when Jordan and Derick rose is in their team. But now since there team is so hopeless and have less chance to win a championship.
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July 14, 2024, 04:19:25 AM
So as a Chicago Bulls fan I'm not real excited about the offseason or next year as we are horrible.  I'm curious though what everything thinks of the Demar DeRozan trade, and what do ya'll think about Zach Lavine still being a member of this Chicago Bulls?  I think it's sort of crazy that he's still on the team.  We have to real use for him since we have no shot at any sort of championship and he's just a wasted asset as I see it..

For the fans of Bulls, this might be bad though, I mean Lavine shows interest to leave as early as January last year when he got injured. But with the news that DeRozan has left already, so the management can't simply let Lavine goes as there will be no one to carry the team unless they are willing to go to another hiatus and built up.

And there are news that: Bulls Rumors: 'Growing Belief' Nikola Vucevic Could Be Traded if DeMar DeRozan Leaves.

So it doesn't really look good for the Bulls next season I supposed.

I wouldn’t call losing Lavine or Vuc bad. Jerry , the Bulls owner has held the bulls (the NBAs best ticket seller) in NBA purgatory for countless years at this point. Winning is not what matters to him. He won 6 championships with the NBAs all time best player and seem content with that being that and just making money going forward. Why I won’t support the bulls money wise any more.

But that era was long ago, and If I'm not mistaken, they are in debt already for years, it might be the teams are worth something today, but if you are in debt then you might be doing something wrong as owners of one of the best recognized franchise.

Lavine is a great scorer but his D is shit and he’s A BIT of a locker room disrupter

Vuc, blows. He was solid double double guy on the Magic who sucked donkey balls so he stood out but he couldn’t defend a 10 year old 4 foot kid. His scoring is extremely hit or miss.

The blow up needs to happen, but what then. I have zero hope in that shit organization.

But I do agree that Lavine fall short as a franchise player when the Bulls got him, they try to have help with DeRozan and Vuc, but still they are not even close to reaching the finals in the East. Now DeRozan and Caruso is gone, and they are going to be stuck with Lavine again and we don't know if he is willing to stay with the Bulls this season or what kind of performance they are expecting of him.
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July 14, 2024, 01:29:41 AM
So as a Chicago Bulls fan I'm not real excited about the offseason or next year as we are horrible.  I'm curious though what everything thinks of the Demar DeRozan trade, and what do ya'll think about Zach Lavine still being a member of this Chicago Bulls?  I think it's sort of crazy that he's still on the team.  We have to real use for him since we have no shot at any sort of championship and he's just a wasted asset as I see it..

For the fans of Bulls, this might be bad though, I mean Lavine shows interest to leave as early as January last year when he got injured. But with the news that DeRozan has left already, so the management can't simply let Lavine goes as there will be no one to carry the team unless they are willing to go to another hiatus and built up.

And there are news that: Bulls Rumors: 'Growing Belief' Nikola Vucevic Could Be Traded if DeMar DeRozan Leaves.

So it doesn't really look good for the Bulls next season I supposed.

I wouldn’t call losing Lavine or Vuc bad. Jerry , the Bulls owner has held the bulls (the NBAs best ticket seller) in NBA purgatory for countless years at this point. Winning is not what matters to him. He won 6 championships with the NBAs all time best player and seem content with that being that and just making money going forward. Why I won’t support the bulls money wise any more.

Lavine is a great scorer but his D is shit and he’s A BIT of a locker room disrupter

Vuc, blows. He was solid double double guy on the Magic who sucked donkey balls so he stood out but he couldn’t defend a 10 year old 4 foot kid. His scoring is extremely hit or miss.

The blow up needs to happen, but what then. I have zero hope in that shit organization.
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July 14, 2024, 01:23:20 AM
A very nice display of his skills.

NBA Summer League, Day 1: Reed Sheppard steals the show vs. Bronny James in Las Vegas
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LAS VEGAS — Basketball fans got a first look at many of the top NBA draft picks during the first day of Las Vegas Summer League. The Thomas & Mack Center sold out for the two marquee games as 19,000 fans packed the gym for Lakers vs. Rockets to see Bronny James in action. But it was Reed Sheppard, the No. 3 pick, who stole the show and helped Houston get the win, 99-80.
I cannot wait to watch this guy once the NBA season starts. I mean, the Rockets are already strong and they showed great teamwork at the start of the last season. Now, they got stronger with this guard helping out on the offensive end.

The game of the Washington Wizards versus the Atlanta Hawks was also fun to watch. The number 1 pick of the Hawks Zacharie Risacher showed why he is valuable scoring 18 points. but the Wizards still won the game with Bub Carrington doing some work 19 points, 9 rebounds, and 8 assists. Wow! 4/8 on outside shots, that's nice.

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