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July 18, 2024, 01:49:36 PM
The Clippers just traded Russell Westbrook to the Utah Jazz for guard Kris Dunn per Adrian Wojnarowski! I can’t say this was totally unexpected but I figured with PG13 gone they might want to hang on to Russ for star power reasons. It looks like they just wanted to cut ties though, as they included cash and a pick swap in the deal as well.

Edit: Now Woj is saying it looks like Russ will be released by Utah and picked up by the Denver Nuggets… This is interesting.

This is good developing story to be honest and the biggest winners in all of these talks is no other team than the Denver Nuggets, I don't care how old Russell Westbrook might, we all know he's one of the most competitive guys in the league and will always give his 100% every single time he steps foot on the court. The Nuggets having lost a couple of the role players PGs, Russell Westbrook is going to be a huge catch for them.

I was honestly expecting teams like San Antonio Spurs to pounce on his availability after he was announced to likely be parting ways with the Clippers.
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July 18, 2024, 01:27:54 PM
The Clippers just traded Russell Westbrook to the Utah Jazz for guard Kris Dunn per Adrian Wojnarowski! I can’t say this was totally unexpected but I figured with PG13 gone they might want to hang on to Russ for star power reasons. It looks like they just wanted to cut ties though, as they included cash and a pick swap in the deal as well.

Edit: Now Woj is saying it looks like Russ will be released by Utah and picked up by the Denver Nuggets… This is interesting.
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July 18, 2024, 10:38:45 AM
Going back to the Bronny and Jalen Brown story… Gilbert Arenas had an interesting take you can view using the below link:
https://x.com/thedunkcentral/status/1813741175280742678
What Arenas forgot to mention is that Jalen Brown averaged ~15 ppg during his college season, while Bronny averaged ~5 meaning everything knew that Jalen has a lot of potential, therefore being such a high draft pick, while Bronny is performing as expected.

Exactly, I think everyone is already asking too much of the kid, and I mean I can't blame his father put the heat and spotlight on him. And he's also chose to jump the due process so he should be ready for even worse critics as the season gets underway, since he's the son of player that literally could dictate the roster of a franchise.


Going back to the Bronny and Jalen Brown story… Gilbert Arenas had an interesting take you can view using the below link:
https://x.com/thedunkcentral/status/1813741175280742678

The short of it is that Jalen Brown actually had a worse start than Bronny James did, shooting 5-26 in his first three games while Bronny has shot 6-26. Jalen was also a much higher draft pick with higher expectations.


Winning a ring and finals MVP is actually getting into a fella's head real quick, I mean dude can't even take a dose of the medicine he dishes out ? I'm not particularly a fan of Stephen A. Smith, but he read an alleged message he said was being sent to him on a show about how Jaylen Brown has an ego which is bigger than his performance and that's why he's not so marketable, bro was loosing it, asking Stephen A. Smith to state his source, Lol. Just barely a week after his "apparent reaction" to Derrick White being called up ahead of him to replace Kawhi Leonard from USA Olympics team.

Maybe it was getting into his head that he is a champion and got a MVP. Nevertheless, majority or at least fans knows that Bronny was picked because of his father. Doesn't matter about Jalen has worst start, he has proven himself already.

I remember when he was a rookie and try to trash talk Steph Curry and then it backfired on him. Guy is a serious competitor, and probably that's the reason why he is crying like a bitch for not included by the Olympics committee and instead chooses White.

We all can't suddenly pretend that nepotism hasn't been a part and parcel of the NBA since forever, and will continue to be as time goes on, the only problem and difference here is that almost anything that surround Lebron James generates the largest media interest.

Or If would anyone care to tell me why and how Thanasis Antetokounmpo is still in the league as a professional NBA player for the Milwaukee Bucks ?
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July 18, 2024, 09:41:56 AM
Going back to the Bronny and Jalen Brown story… Gilbert Arenas had an interesting take you can view using the below link:
https://x.com/thedunkcentral/status/1813741175280742678

The short of it is that Jalen Brown actually had a worse start than Bronny James did, shooting 5-26 in his first three games while Bronny has shot 6-26. Jalen was also a much higher draft pick with higher expectations.
I've read this on Facebook too. There's point that Bronny James and Jalen Brown might play similarly only at the beginning or in the Summer League. Their gameplay might change once the actual NBA season starts, similar to what happened with Jalen Brown. But if you ask me, I think it's unlikely that Bronny will become like Jalen Brown because Jalen Brown's play style is very different from Bronny's. Hopefully, Bronny will develop over time, but Jalen Brown is really stronger than Bronny imo.
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July 18, 2024, 09:37:36 AM
Going back to the Bronny and Jalen Brown story… Gilbert Arenas had an interesting take you can view using the below link:
https://x.com/thedunkcentral/status/1813741175280742678
What Arenas forgot to mention is that Jalen Brown averaged ~15 ppg during his college season, while Bronny averaged ~5 meaning everything knew that Jalen has a lot of potential, therefore being such a high draft pick, while Bronny is performing as expected.


There's still time for LeBron to get another championship with the team.
I seriously doubt that, considering the moves that he is making.
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July 18, 2024, 09:17:35 AM

There's still time for LeBron to get another championship with the team. At least they already won one championship during the pandemic, so they just need another one, and I think they are trying to improve their roster (less Bronny).

Bron is not that strong anymore but good thing they acquired new potential players that can help us to do a solid run. They should just toss DLo to a more consistent player since he is the reason why they are on/off during the playoffs.


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The talks and criticism about Bronny and LeBron will never stop, in my opinion. As long as these two are playing on the same team, people will always speculate on what happened and why Bronny was drafted despite not having an impressive record during his college years.

To be honest, Brony is playing as regular bench player in NBA which people shouldn’t expect anything big from this rookie. Brony doesn’t have problem but the people that giving him the expectation that he is not asking for. If people just let Brony develop and stop the early criticism then I guess everything will be fine.
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July 18, 2024, 09:08:56 AM
The short of it is that Jalen Brown actually had a worse start than Bronny James did, shooting 5-26 in his first three games while Bronny has shot 6-26. Jalen was also a much higher draft pick with higher expectations.
I saw this comparison.

You really can't hide to the people of socmed when you started to heat the flame. Make sure that you don't have a smoke because if there is, it's for sure that socmed people will dig upon it.

One interesting thought that I've seen was about words about Derek Fisher thinking that Lakers taking Lebron would bring them multiple championships.

It's always Bronny and Lebron that's being talked to nowadays.  Cheesy

There's still time for LeBron to get another championship with the team. At least they already won one championship during the pandemic, so they just need another one, and I think they are trying to improve their roster (less Bronny).

The talks and criticism about Bronny and LeBron will never stop, in my opinion. As long as these two are playing on the same team, people will always speculate on what happened and why Bronny was drafted despite not having an impressive record during his college years.
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July 18, 2024, 09:02:27 AM
Going back to the Bronny and Jalen Brown story… Gilbert Arenas had an interesting take you can view using the below link:
https://x.com/thedunkcentral/status/1813741175280742678

The short of it is that Jalen Brown actually had a worse start than Bronny James did, shooting 5-26 in his first three games while Bronny has shot 6-26. Jalen was also a much higher draft pick with higher expectations.


Winning a ring and finals MVP is actually getting into a fella's head real quick, I mean dude can't even take a dose of the medicine he dishes out ? I'm not particularly a fan of Stephen A. Smith, but he read an alleged message he said was being sent to him on a show about how Jaylen Brown has an ego which is bigger than his performance and that's why he's not so marketable, bro was loosing it, asking Stephen A. Smith to state his source, Lol. Just barely a week after his "apparent reaction" to Derrick White being called up ahead of him to replace Kawhi Leonard from USA Olympics team.
Yeah, it does to some players. Then he got the MVP which made his head larger. Cheesy If I were him I'd try to be on the top 5 of the KIA Season MVP candidates first before I'd go that far. He must know that Andre Iguodala also received the same thing on his Warriors stint. A champion and a Finals MVP.
Well, he is still young and he might get those but I am still against the salary that the Celtics gave to him which could also be one of the fuel for that arrogant attitude.
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I'm thinking of betting on the odds +1800 for Bronny to score 25+ points in the entire season.
Dude, you found a gem. I might bet on that too. 25 points is easy, just give him 2 or 3 minutes of game time and I bet he can at least make 2 to 3  points. If he can stay healthy then he will probably hit that. Thanks for sharing this.
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July 18, 2024, 08:57:10 AM
The short of it is that Jalen Brown actually had a worse start than Bronny James did, shooting 5-26 in his first three games while Bronny has shot 6-26. Jalen was also a much higher draft pick with higher expectations.
I saw this comparison.

You really can't hide to the people of socmed when you started to heat the flame. Make sure that you don't have a smoke because if there is, it's for sure that socmed people will dig upon it.

One interesting thought that I've seen was about words about Derek Fisher thinking that Lakers taking Lebron would bring them multiple championships.

It's always Bronny and Lebron that's being talked to nowadays.  Cheesy
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July 18, 2024, 02:57:19 AM
Going back to the Bronny and Jalen Brown story… Gilbert Arenas had an interesting take you can view using the below link:
https://x.com/thedunkcentral/status/1813741175280742678

The short of it is that Jalen Brown actually had a worse start than Bronny James did, shooting 5-26 in his first three games while Bronny has shot 6-26. Jalen was also a much higher draft pick with higher expectations.


Winning a ring and finals MVP is actually getting into a fella's head real quick, I mean dude can't even take a dose of the medicine he dishes out ? I'm not particularly a fan of Stephen A. Smith, but he read an alleged message he said was being sent to him on a show about how Jaylen Brown has an ego which is bigger than his performance and that's why he's not so marketable, bro was loosing it, asking Stephen A. Smith to state his source, Lol. Just barely a week after his "apparent reaction" to Derrick White being called up ahead of him to replace Kawhi Leonard from USA Olympics team.

Maybe it was getting into his head that he is a champion and got a MVP. Nevertheless, majority or at least fans knows that Bronny was picked because of his father. Doesn't matter about Jalen has worst start, he has proven himself already.

I remember when he was a rookie and try to trash talk Steph Curry and then it backfired on him. Guy is a serious competitor, and probably that's the reason why he is crying like a bitch for not included by the Olympics committee and instead chooses White.
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July 18, 2024, 12:05:15 AM
About Bronny, I've seen some interesting betting odds on him for the entire next season.

Try to analyze this guys, what do you think about it? can we find a value on these odds below?

https://www.foxsports.com/stories/nba/2024-25-nba-odds-multiple-ways-bet-bronny-james-player-props

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Bronny James 15+ Points in any 2024-25 Regular Season Game: -110 (bet $10 to win $19.09 total)

Bronny James 3+ Threes Made in any 2024-25 Regular Season Game: +120 (bet $10 to win $22 total)

Bronny James 4+ Threes Made in any 2024-25 Regular Season Game: +550 (bet $10 to win $65 total)

Bronny James 20+ Points in any 2024-25 Regular Season Game: +800 (bet $10 to win $90 total)

Bronny James 5+ Threes Made in any 2024-25 Regular Season Game: +1200 (bet $10 to win $130 total)

Bronny James 8+ Assists in any 2024-25 Regular Season Game: +1600 (bet $10 to win $170 total)

Bronny James 25+ Points in any 2024-25 Regular Season Game: +1800 (bet $10 to win $190 total)

Bronny James 10+ Assists in any 2024-25 Regular Season Game: +3000 (bet $10 to win $310 total)

Bronny James to Record a Double-Double in any 2024-25 Regular Season Game: +3500 (bet $10 to win $360 total)

*odds as of 7/15/24

I'm thinking of betting on the odds +1800 for Bronny to score 25+ points in the entire season.
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July 17, 2024, 11:08:46 PM
Going back to the Bronny and Jalen Brown story… Gilbert Arenas had an interesting take you can view using the below link:
https://x.com/thedunkcentral/status/1813741175280742678

The short of it is that Jalen Brown actually had a worse start than Bronny James did, shooting 5-26 in his first three games while Bronny has shot 6-26. Jalen was also a much higher draft pick with higher expectations.


Winning a ring and finals MVP is actually getting into a fella's head real quick, I mean dude can't even take a dose of the medicine he dishes out ? I'm not particularly a fan of Stephen A. Smith, but he read an alleged message he said was being sent to him on a show about how Jaylen Brown has an ego which is bigger than his performance and that's why he's not so marketable, bro was loosing it, asking Stephen A. Smith to state his source, Lol. Just barely a week after his "apparent reaction" to Derrick White being called up ahead of him to replace Kawhi Leonard from USA Olympics team.
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July 17, 2024, 10:57:34 PM
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People should also talk about Alex Sarr, the second draft pick by the Washington Wizards and look at the numbers that he's contributed to their most recent game.  Roll Eyes
I also remember when Trae Young played awfully during the Summer League (almost the same as Alex Sarr) but look where he's at right now. Main star of the Hawks. I'm not saying that Alex Sarr will be the same as him, but I think let's not focus too much on the Summer League and their performances. Focus on how they will be playing in the NBA once it starts.
Louder man. Most fans are looking to what it is right now but this summer league is just more likely a training camp for most of the rookies. And that's why it's not yet their full potential. And one trending now is about Jaylen Brown who they've dubbed talking some things about Bronny. Well, he also didn't played good during his rookie days to summer league.

TBH, there's no hype between the top 2 players in this year's draft. The media is focusing more on Bronny James and his nightly performance instead of these 2 players. Cheesy I guess the fact that they aren't from the US is also one reason.
Can't deny that because Bronny is a James and his father has been considered as one of the greatest. With or without debate, the media is all over him always. Anyway, USA beaten Serbia.
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July 17, 2024, 10:41:08 PM
Going back to the Bronny and Jalen Brown story… Gilbert Arenas had an interesting take you can view using the below link:
https://x.com/thedunkcentral/status/1813741175280742678

The short of it is that Jalen Brown actually had a worse start than Bronny James did, shooting 5-26 in his first three games while Bronny has shot 6-26. Jalen was also a much higher draft pick with higher expectations.
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July 17, 2024, 10:35:41 PM
The NBA is over for Patrick Beverley for now, Patrick Beverley will now play for the Israeli team Hapoel Tel Aviv.

The Patrick Beverly news was a bit out of left field but he said they gave him everything he asked for so he couldn’t say no.

I'm surprised to read today that the contract which included everything he asked for was only $2,000,000 per year for 2 years.  His last NBA contract had to be for significantly more than that, right?  I'm pretty sure that's below the veterans minimum in the NBA.  I guess that means not a single team in the NBA was interested in signing Pat Bev.  That, or the Israeli's are giving him some incredible perks outside of his compensation, which is more likely in my opinion than no team in the NBA wanting him for the league minimum.

Maybe if he was still very young a number of team could have been willing to let a number of his awful antics slide, but no NBA team want a time bomb like Pat Beverly he does more talking now than plays and being a sour loser with never ending controversy and putting his teams difficult situation was never going to end well for him, I'm pretty afraid that the same fate could await Draymond Green once he gets traded or enter free agency, he'll need to actually play and talk less to be kept on any NBA roster. Kevin Porter Jr. for instance whom everyone could have thought his NBA days are over, but now he's back into the league after just a season, and the major factor that contributed to that is because he's still a young lad, if it were to be a veteran, I'm very sure that would have been it for him, Ja Morant as well probably wouldn't still be in the league if they are older guys.
He definitely is a time bomb and the way he did his career this past seasons was all just pure trash talks I guess that could make him the headline. Same goes to Green who definitely be signed by WWE in the future. I'd say, Pat Bev landing on Israel was still a heaven sent, his legacy would still continue though.
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July 17, 2024, 10:00:17 PM
The NBA is over for Patrick Beverley for now, Patrick Beverley will now play for the Israeli team Hapoel Tel Aviv.

The Patrick Beverly news was a bit out of left field but he said they gave him everything he asked for so he couldn’t say no.

I'm surprised to read today that the contract which included everything he asked for was only $2,000,000 per year for 2 years.  His last NBA contract had to be for significantly more than that, right?  I'm pretty sure that's below the veterans minimum in the NBA.  I guess that means not a single team in the NBA was interested in signing Pat Bev.  That, or the Israeli's are giving him some incredible perks outside of his compensation, which is more likely in my opinion than no team in the NBA wanting him for the league minimum.

Maybe if he was still very young a number of team could have been willing to let a number of his awful antics slide, but no NBA team want a time bomb like Pat Beverly he does more talking now than plays and being a sour loser with never ending controversy and putting his teams difficult situation was never going to end well for him, I'm pretty afraid that the same fate could await Draymond Green once he gets traded or enter free agency, he'll need to actually play and talk less to be kept on any NBA roster. Kevin Porter Jr. for instance whom everyone could have thought his NBA days are over, but now he's back into the league after just a season, and the major factor that contributed to that is because he's still a young lad, if it were to be a veteran, I'm very sure that would have been it for him, Ja Morant as well probably wouldn't still be in the league if they are older guys.
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July 17, 2024, 09:22:46 PM
The NBA is over for Patrick Beverley for now, Patrick Beverley will now play for the Israeli team Hapoel Tel Aviv.

The Patrick Beverly news was a bit out of left field but he said they gave him everything he asked for so he couldn’t say no.

I'm surprised to read today that the contract which included everything he asked for was only $2,000,000 per year for 2 years.  His last NBA contract had to be for significantly more than that, right?  I'm pretty sure that's below the veterans minimum in the NBA.  I guess that means not a single team in the NBA was interested in signing Pat Bev.  That, or the Israeli's are giving him some incredible perks outside of his compensation, which is more likely in my opinion than no team in the NBA wanting him for the league minimum.
His contract with the Sixers is $3,196,448 (https://www.spotrac.com/nba/player/_/id/6297/patrick-beverley) and probably that's what the Bucks absorb when he was traded. And probably that was around the NBA veteran minimum too but obviously he rejected it. Could be the offer is too good for him by Hapoel and then there is a good chance for him to travel as well, so win win for him.

Edit: Looks like I'm not the only one who thought Embiid wasn't making the expected effort in these exhibition games.  https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/joel-embiid-s-lackluster-performance-against-serbia-sparks-calls-for-benchings-from-nba-fans/ar-BB1q9YSk
I do agree, Embiid had a bad performance so far, but I do think that this will have to end sooner or later. We are still in the exhibition matches so we can tolerate this. But once it's a full blown Olympic game, he has to step up and AD can't start as a center.
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July 17, 2024, 09:14:35 PM
Based on his past salaries, he is not making big money anymore, so I understand the decision.
https://hoopshype.com/player/patrick-beverley/salary/

Based on the news,
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Beverley agreed to a two-year, $4 million deal with Hapoel Tel Aviv,
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So he is already secured with that salary, plus he will earned heavy minutes, unlike playing with the NBA where he will just be in the bench.
I think he still want to really show his value and at this stage, it's best to show it overseas.

NBA players usually go overseas only if they don't get acceptable offers from NBA teams, i.e. they are not needed in the NBA. So that 4 million dollar contract is a good deal for him, considering he is already 36 years old.
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Maybe no one in the NBA likes Beverley, but I think he has good defensive skills, and he clearly deserves the veteran minimum.
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July 17, 2024, 09:10:52 PM
TBH, there's no hype between the top 2 players in this year's draft. The media is focusing more on Bronny James and his nightly performance instead of these 2 players. Cheesy I guess the fact that they aren't from the US is also one reason.
So true. It's all Bronny and Lebron in basketball media, and the top 3 draft picks are not getting the television time they can so that they can also be popular like Wemby, Chet, Paulo, etc... They do not even throw good news about him but because more people will watch it and so they will use it.

Warriors and Jazz probably have path to Lauri Markkanen trade, but what is the middle ground?
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/warriors-and-jazz-probably-have-path-to-lauri-markkanen-trade-but-what-is-the-middle-ground/
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Lauri Markkanen will know where he's starting the season, one way or another, by Aug. 6.
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The Golden State Warriors, by all accounts, are the most aggressive Markkanen suitor. The Athletic's Shams Charania reports that the Warriors have discussed an offer around Moses Moody, multiple first-round picks, multiple pick swaps and multiple second-round picks. That's not enough to make a deal and the Warriors probably know that. But the Jazz are reportedly asking for all of that stuff, plus Jonathan Kuminga and Brandin Podziemski. This is obviously too much, and the Jazz probably know that too.

That's a lot of players that the Warriors will lose if they will add Jonathan Kuminga and Podziemski. For Markkanen I think that will only be fair but if the Warriors really see their young guys' value then I will take out that multiple first-round picks and just trade Kuminga + Podziemski instead. Sure, Markkanen is a rising star but so is Kuminga who had been playing great in the last half of the last season. He is growing and getting more aggressive and soon he will also be one of the stars. Podziemski has done the same which I think is the reason why the Utah Jazz are interested in them.
If it materializes, it will be a hard decision for the Warriors. I know they need a new face for their team because Curry ain't going younger but will they destroy the chemistry built with those young guys for a new face?

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July 17, 2024, 08:57:16 PM
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People should also talk about Alex Sarr, the second draft pick by the Washington Wizards and look at the numbers that he's contributed to their most recent game.  Roll Eyes
I also remember when Trae Young played awfully during the Summer League (almost the same as Alex Sarr) but look where he's at right now. Main star of the Hawks. I'm not saying that Alex Sarr will be the same as him, but I think let's not focus too much on the Summer League and their performances. Focus on how they will be playing in the NBA once it starts.

TBH, there's no hype between the top 2 players in this year's draft. The media is focusing more on Bronny James and his nightly performance instead of these 2 players. Cheesy I guess the fact that they aren't from the US is also one reason.

I have a question for those of you who have a better grasp of the league right now, and especially college basketball..but my question is would Bronny James even be starting at USC had he stayed another year?  I know that he wasn't doing all that great last year, and it's just kind of crazy to think that he might not even be starting at USC next year...despite being drafted in the NBA this year. 

We all know he'd not have been drafted regardless, if his dad wasn't who he is.
Yes, and it's because of his dad. I don't want to assume and conclude, but based on how he's playing in the Summer League, there's a chance that he might not even start, unless his father intervenes.

If Bronny is just an ordinary player with those kinds of stats when he's in college, will he get drafted in the NBA? % 5 PPG during his stint with USC? Hell, no, but it is what it is. He got drafted in the NBA because of his dad, and he also got a 4-year $8M guaranteed contract again because of his dad. It's just very disappointing how Le-GM abuses his power to do the things he wants. I believe this is also one reason why other players don't want to play in LA like DeMar, Klay, and even Harden.
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