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September 04, 2024, 06:04:46 PM
Maybe you haven't seen this yet everybody. Some courts in our country have made a mural of Kyrie Irving.
(https://www.blackenterprise.com/kyrie-irving-basketball-court-mural-philippines/)
It was great piece of art and there are a lot of courts here even in the streets. This is the kind of appreciation that my fellow countrymen gave to their idols like Kyrie. Kyrie has acknowledged this and looking forward to visit the place next year. IIRC, I've also seen a personal rooftop that has made a mural of him too but I forgot the artist.



I've seen this one on the news and the artist who did it is Maya Carandang. I have no idea about the rooftop though and I have not seen that yet.
I've seen a guy did it and posted it on his socials, I can't just remember still the name of the guy but I think it was on FB posted.

Steph Curry said something just recently.
Stephen Curry says being an NBA owner someday ‘definitely on the table’
https://www.nbcsports.com/nba/news/stephen-curry-says-being-an-nba-owner-someday-definitely-on-the-table

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Michael Jordan set the bar for NBA players jumping to ownership when he purchased the Charlotte Hornets. Grant Hill (Hawks), Shaquille O’Neal (Kings), Dwyane Wade (Jazz) and Magic Johnson (Lakers) have had roles as minority NBA owners. LeBron James has made it clear he wants to be part of the ownership group if (more accurately, when) a Las Vegas NBA expansion franchise is announced.

Stephen Curry wants to join the club, he said on CNBC’s “Squawk on the Street.”

Why not? I think he has the money to be a co-owner of one franchise.
He still has a big deal with the Warriors and that will add up to his savings which will probably make him a majority owner of one team. This is just a big proof of how much he loves the sport.
There are players who just want to take their rest or some end up as sports analysts on different sports channels. Being an owner will be different because next to it will be criticisms from those basketball analysts and we have seen how many times Jordan's name comes out of the news while the Hornets are always deep in the standings.
These great players really have to reinvest their money and continue their legacy by being owners or part owners of the NBA teams that they want to purchase. It's business and passion and they know all about that when they've seen the results from Michael Jordan. Although he's still got a long run for his career, he's sure preparing for that chapter of his life.
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September 04, 2024, 04:51:31 PM
Agree to that, what he shows up during Olympics gives him that chance to get that contract outside NBA, it's better to take that instead of keep sitting down and watch the game, I mean aside from the money there's no reason to stay if he's not going to get that minutes and give him that chance to showcase his talents.
Yup, it's all about getting playing time. I'm sure that players like him want to earn good money but aside from that, the love for the game and actually play. I wish him luck playing in Greece and this is what happens to most of the NBA players that will get out of the league, they won't just be out without having some nice contracts in offshore leagues.

As long as they still wanted to play, they can still showcase their talents outside NBA, though not a big or widely covers like NBA but still they've got the chance to continue playing the game, and if they will perform well there's still opportunities that might be open up if another team will call them back playing for any NBA franchise.

Let see if what will be his fate after this contract expires, still a good chance to continue playing and show his love for this sport.
There have been some come backs but it happened only to few players. But the majority that have decided to step away from the NBA and chose to play for the other teams and leagues, that seem to be their lives already. They won't have that problem getting from another team that desired to have a player that played for the NBA even if the age of theirs might be considered old.

That's why those young ones that have decided to step away and chose to play for their home countries like Watanabe surely want to get that playing time and just as Evan had done, may or may not a home country but it's all about getting the ball and playing it with their respective time that they've been paid for.
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September 04, 2024, 03:09:09 PM
Secondly, usually with three stars, other teams can't double team anyone at all, you are going to have a risk if you double team anyone, and all three are good passers as well so it will not be a hard thing for them to find whoever is open. I feel like Dallas may actually get a good result and get the title this season. This all depends on how their chemistry works together as a team of course.

Just because team has three NBA All-Stars doesn't mean they’ll automatically win. Talent helps but things like team chemistry, good coaching and avoiding injuries are just real important. Sometimes teams with lot of star players struggle because they can’t find the right chemistry. Winning takes more than just having good players; the whole team needs to work well together. Remember Kobe, Nash, Gasol and Howard? And the recent big 3 KD, Booker and Beal. Look what happened?

You can also point to the famous Heatles team that had 3 all stars and the GOAT, yet still managed to get taken down by an aging and sick Dirk Nowitzki. Interestingly, I learned that the reason Mario Chalmers was the point guard for this team instead of Chris Paul was because Wade wouldn’t give up #3 and Paul refused to wear a different number. Imagine retiring ringless and not being a part of the greatest team ever over a Jersey number.
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September 04, 2024, 02:38:19 PM
Secondly, usually with three stars, other teams can't double team anyone at all, you are going to have a risk if you double team anyone, and all three are good passers as well so it will not be a hard thing for them to find whoever is open. I feel like Dallas may actually get a good result and get the title this season. This all depends on how their chemistry works together as a team of course.

Just because team has three NBA All-Stars doesn't mean they’ll automatically win. Talent helps but things like team chemistry, good coaching and avoiding injuries are just real important. Sometimes teams with lot of star players struggle because they can’t find the right chemistry. Winning takes more than just having good players; the whole team needs to work well together. Remember Kobe, Nash, Gasol and Howard? And the recent big 3 KD, Booker and Beal. Look what happened?
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September 04, 2024, 02:00:04 PM
Dallas did made a great trio and usually when three stars get together that makes the whole league easier for them. One of the main reasons is that you can do fine during regular season with just two stars, that means you can rotate your stars and rest them and lower the injury risk during playoffs by not putting too much emphasis on their body.

Secondly, usually with three stars, other teams can't double team anyone at all, you are going to have a risk if you double team anyone, and all three are good passers as well so it will not be a hard thing for them to find whoever is open. I feel like Dallas may actually get a good result and get the title this season. This all depends on how their chemistry works together as a team of course.
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September 04, 2024, 07:32:47 AM
Steph Curry said something just recently.
Stephen Curry says being an NBA owner someday ‘definitely on the table’
https://www.nbcsports.com/nba/news/stephen-curry-says-being-an-nba-owner-someday-definitely-on-the-table

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Michael Jordan set the bar for NBA players jumping to ownership when he purchased the Charlotte Hornets. Grant Hill (Hawks), Shaquille O’Neal (Kings), Dwyane Wade (Jazz) and Magic Johnson (Lakers) have had roles as minority NBA owners. LeBron James has made it clear he wants to be part of the ownership group if (more accurately, when) a Las Vegas NBA expansion franchise is announced.

Stephen Curry wants to join the club, he said on CNBC’s “Squawk on the Street.”

Why not? I think he has the money to be a co-owner of one franchise.
He still has a big deal with the Warriors and that will add up to his savings which will probably make him a majority owner of one team. This is just a big proof of how much he loves the sport.
There are players who just want to take their rest or some end up as sports analysts on different sports channels. Being an owner will be different because next to it will be criticisms from those basketball analysts and we have seen how many times Jordan's name comes out of the news while the Hornets are always deep in the standings.

Given how much Curry has earned during his career in the NBA and for various advertising contracts, then yes, he may become a co-owner of one of the teams by buying a small share. As far as I know now, the average team in the NBA is estimated at $3,8 billion, and the most expensive team is the Warriors, which are estimated at 7,7 billion.

He's earning a lot of money in his career and provably that said plan most provably gonna happen. Dwayne Wade is minority owner of Utah Jazz and I guess this action they made has been set as example for other big earners to do the same since NBA is a big business and provably that they can earn a lot of money if they put money on certain team they like to buy some shares.

Lebron is also looking to own a NBA franchise before on Vegas https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamzagoria/2023/12/11/lebron-james-looks-like-a-man-preparing-to-own-an-nba-franchise-in-las-vegas/ and I guess they are just waiting for possible expansion so if they allow to make it happen. But maybe there's change of plans if there's certain opportunity that open on other team. But let see the update regarding on this matter.

Michael Jordan set up the bar very high and only few NBA players can really afford a team or at least be a majority stake holder for any sports team for that matter. But with the huge salaries that the NBA players are getting, like Steph and Lebron and KD getting into the $500 million mark + their endorsements and others income outside of the NBA, they can really be a minority or majority stock holders of any NBA team right now.

And just imagine though if this 3 started to combine their money and then have a new NBA team in town, it could be great for the association itself. A new expansion team with the majority is former NBA players.

In other news, Giannis Antetokounmpo And Mariah Riddlesprigger Say 'I Do'!.
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September 04, 2024, 07:24:42 AM
Steph Curry said something just recently.
Stephen Curry says being an NBA owner someday ‘definitely on the table’
https://www.nbcsports.com/nba/news/stephen-curry-says-being-an-nba-owner-someday-definitely-on-the-table

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Michael Jordan set the bar for NBA players jumping to ownership when he purchased the Charlotte Hornets. Grant Hill (Hawks), Shaquille O’Neal (Kings), Dwyane Wade (Jazz) and Magic Johnson (Lakers) have had roles as minority NBA owners. LeBron James has made it clear he wants to be part of the ownership group if (more accurately, when) a Las Vegas NBA expansion franchise is announced.

Stephen Curry wants to join the club, he said on CNBC’s “Squawk on the Street.”

Why not? I think he has the money to be a co-owner of one franchise.
He still has a big deal with the Warriors and that will add up to his savings which will probably make him a majority owner of one team. This is just a big proof of how much he loves the sport.
There are players who just want to take their rest or some end up as sports analysts on different sports channels. Being an owner will be different because next to it will be criticisms from those basketball analysts and we have seen how many times Jordan's name comes out of the news while the Hornets are always deep in the standings.

Given how much Curry has earned during his career in the NBA and for various advertising contracts, then yes, he may become a co-owner of one of the teams by buying a small share. As far as I know now, the average team in the NBA is estimated at $3,8 billion, and the most expensive team is the Warriors, which are estimated at 7,7 billion.

He's earning a lot of money in his career and provably that said plan most provably gonna happen. Dwayne Wade is minority owner of Utah Jazz and I guess this action they made has been set as example for other big earners to do the same since NBA is a big business and provably that they can earn a lot of money if they put money on certain team they like to buy some shares.

Lebron is also looking to own a NBA franchise before on Vegas https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamzagoria/2023/12/11/lebron-james-looks-like-a-man-preparing-to-own-an-nba-franchise-in-las-vegas/ and I guess they are just waiting for possible expansion so if they allow to make it happen. But maybe there's change of plans if there's certain opportunity that open on other team. But let see the update regarding on this matter.
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September 04, 2024, 06:01:27 AM
Agree to that, what he shows up during Olympics gives him that chance to get that contract outside NBA, it's better to take that instead of keep sitting down and watch the game, I mean aside from the money there's no reason to stay if he's not going to get that minutes and give him that chance to showcase his talents.
Yup, it's all about getting playing time. I'm sure that players like him want to earn good money but aside from that, the love for the game and actually play. I wish him luck playing in Greece and this is what happens to most of the NBA players that will get out of the league, they won't just be out without having some nice contracts in offshore leagues.

As long as they still wanted to play, they can still showcase their talents outside NBA, though not a big or widely covers like NBA but still they've got the chance to continue playing the game, and if they will perform well there's still opportunities that might be open up if another team will call them back playing for any NBA franchise.

Let see if what will be his fate after this contract expires, still a good chance to continue playing and show his love for this sport.
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September 04, 2024, 05:54:17 AM
Steph Curry said something just recently.
Stephen Curry says being an NBA owner someday ‘definitely on the table’
https://www.nbcsports.com/nba/news/stephen-curry-says-being-an-nba-owner-someday-definitely-on-the-table

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Michael Jordan set the bar for NBA players jumping to ownership when he purchased the Charlotte Hornets. Grant Hill (Hawks), Shaquille O’Neal (Kings), Dwyane Wade (Jazz) and Magic Johnson (Lakers) have had roles as minority NBA owners. LeBron James has made it clear he wants to be part of the ownership group if (more accurately, when) a Las Vegas NBA expansion franchise is announced.

Stephen Curry wants to join the club, he said on CNBC’s “Squawk on the Street.”

Why not? I think he has the money to be a co-owner of one franchise.
He still has a big deal with the Warriors and that will add up to his savings which will probably make him a majority owner of one team. This is just a big proof of how much he loves the sport.
There are players who just want to take their rest or some end up as sports analysts on different sports channels. Being an owner will be different because next to it will be criticisms from those basketball analysts and we have seen how many times Jordan's name comes out of the news while the Hornets are always deep in the standings.

Given how much Curry has earned during his career in the NBA and for various advertising contracts, then yes, he may become a co-owner of one of the teams by buying a small share. As far as I know now, the average team in the NBA is estimated at $3,8 billion, and the most expensive team is the Warriors, which are estimated at 7,7 billion.
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September 04, 2024, 03:12:05 AM
Still, I don't see the Warriors in the championship, for the West it might be Klay who will be up there with Kyrie and Luka or the Timberwolves for the West.

The Mavs will be interesting to watch in the upcoming season. At least, it seems to me that Luka, Kyrie, and Klay will be able to make some progress and probably go deep into the playoffs again. As for the Wolves, I have my doubts about them, especially after their poor performance in the Western Conference finals last playoffs.

I have to lean toward more with the Timberwolves IF Ant Edwards will become even more mature with his game. I mean the guy has a talent. He can score anywhere, he's explosive and fast and agile. Now, he needs to lead his team. They are seriously strong and looks like a complete roster. KAT, Gobert are a twin tower, Mike Conley is a good point guard, and not to mention they also have the 6th man of the year.
I'm actually pretty excited how they will bounce back this upcoming season.
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On the other hand, we have a lot of questions whether Klay has still some extra on his body after that bad season he had with the Warriors that push either one of them to not be engage on negotiations for him to stay as a Warrior for the rest of his career.

That's a big question, but we will find out in the coming season. However, even if Klay may not return to his old self, as long as he can still contribute, I think the Mavs will improve. This is because Klay has the maturity from his experience as a multiple-time champion, so it's definitely a good catch for the Mavs.

Klay's shooting was probably affected by his chemistry with the team. Gradually, he hasn't felt the confidence he once had, perhaps due to criticism of his performance or because the team hasn't given him enough time to recover and regain his old form.

I’m going to come right out and say it. Klay is washed. Physically, he is a shell of his former self. Mentally, his confidence is shot. I think he not only has a terrible year that makes Mark Cuban regret signing him, but I think his play and roster spot will actually make Dallas a worse team and close their window for winning a championship. Ultimately, this will be why Luka ends up a Laker.
Just imagine though Mark Cuban regretting his decision to get Klay and offering him millions as a Mavs. Yes, we have seen that mentally he thinks that he is still that game 6 Klay we all know. But his last game with the Warriors proved otherwise. Although I'm still thinking that he might have some game in him with the Dallas but it will not be consistent and it will be frustrating for him. And this is still Luka's team though, we don't know if they can build a good chemistry together with Kyrie. Sometimes it takes just two good player or three to go to the championship and win a ring. But that question still hangs as how Klay will be if he is already washed or not.
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September 04, 2024, 02:31:10 AM
Maybe you haven't seen this yet everybody. Some courts in our country have made a mural of Kyrie Irving.
(https://www.blackenterprise.com/kyrie-irving-basketball-court-mural-philippines/)
It was great piece of art and there are a lot of courts here even in the streets. This is the kind of appreciation that my fellow countrymen gave to their idols like Kyrie. Kyrie has acknowledged this and looking forward to visit the place next year. IIRC, I've also seen a personal rooftop that has made a mural of him too but I forgot the artist.



I've seen this one on the news and the artist who did it is Maya Carandang. I have no idea about the rooftop though and I have not seen that yet.

Steph Curry said something just recently.
Stephen Curry says being an NBA owner someday ‘definitely on the table’
https://www.nbcsports.com/nba/news/stephen-curry-says-being-an-nba-owner-someday-definitely-on-the-table

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Michael Jordan set the bar for NBA players jumping to ownership when he purchased the Charlotte Hornets. Grant Hill (Hawks), Shaquille O’Neal (Kings), Dwyane Wade (Jazz) and Magic Johnson (Lakers) have had roles as minority NBA owners. LeBron James has made it clear he wants to be part of the ownership group if (more accurately, when) a Las Vegas NBA expansion franchise is announced.

Stephen Curry wants to join the club, he said on CNBC’s “Squawk on the Street.”

Why not? I think he has the money to be a co-owner of one franchise.
He still has a big deal with the Warriors and that will add up to his savings which will probably make him a majority owner of one team. This is just a big proof of how much he loves the sport.
There are players who just want to take their rest or some end up as sports analysts on different sports channels. Being an owner will be different because next to it will be criticisms from those basketball analysts and we have seen how many times Jordan's name comes out of the news while the Hornets are always deep in the standings.
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Klay is not young anymore, while I do agree that he will want a "revenge season" type of thing, where he ends up playing much better and with Irving and Doncic, they may try to win the title once again, I also think that even if he wants to be better, he may not be able to, not saying he won't, just saying he may not be able to because we are talking about a player who is old now and he was seriously injured, coming back from ACL isn't simple at all.

This is why he may play very badly this season too, and Dallas may regret their decision, or maybe he will prove me wrong and he will do just fine, there is really nothing that I am sure about this, I am just making a prediction.

Reality is that we are talking about a player who has been one of the greatest shooters of all time, he shouldn't really lose his shooting, even with ACL injury, his shooting should be there and for some reason it wasn't there last season, so it looks like maybe he could make a comeback and be a lot better. I think it's clear that we are going to end up with a lot better result than anticipated. The good thing is that we should be considering Warriors and Hield decision as something they took a risk with for sure.
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September 03, 2024, 01:49:38 PM
Maybe you haven't seen this yet everybody. Some courts in our country have made a mural of Kyrie Irving.
(https://www.blackenterprise.com/kyrie-irving-basketball-court-mural-philippines/)
It was great piece of art and there are a lot of courts here even in the streets. This is the kind of appreciation that my fellow countrymen gave to their idols like Kyrie. Kyrie has acknowledged this and looking forward to visit the place next year. IIRC, I've also seen a personal rooftop that has made a mural of him too but I forgot the artist.





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September 03, 2024, 12:30:17 PM
I just saw this news that Evan Fournier probably have played his last games in the NBA last season. He's signing with Olympiacos, in Greece for three years. Maybe he might come back after this contract or if there's a team that will still take and sign him once his contract expires there.

Source: Evan Fournier signing with Olympiacos for the next three years
Good choice coming from him.
I would rather want to see him having more playing time overseas than in the NBA where most of the time, he's just benched. I mean he can just be a good three-point shooter and we just saw it in the recent Olympics.
Yeah, his Olympics stint with his team was actually good and impressive and when he's back to NBA, for sure that he's not going to be utilized. I think that matches from the Olympics did helped him in deciding to take this deal and contract from Olympiacos. So, it was really indeed a great decision for him and no regrets and other players will definitely grab those opportunities if happen that they've got a contract. And I think that if Giannis will someday lose his prime, there is for sure the league in Greece that will take him for sure.
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September 03, 2024, 12:04:28 PM
As for the Wolves, I have my doubts about them, especially after their poor performance in the Western Conference finals last playoffs.
Edwards is just 23 years old. Still considered young, and with the players surrounding him, I will not be surprised if they will get their first title with him as their main star.

It might not be next year because of how tough the West is, but him surrounded with good players like KAT, Gobert, and other good role players? I can say that the Wolves will be a playoff contender for the next years to come. If there's a chance that's needed with the team, they need to trade KAT for a better all-star player because he's very inconsistent during the playoffs that caused them to lose to the Mavericks.
I just saw this news that Evan Fournier probably have played his last games in the NBA last season. He's signing with Olympiacos, in Greece for three years. Maybe he might come back after this contract or if there's a team that will still take and sign him once his contract expires there.

Source: Evan Fournier signing with Olympiacos for the next three years
Good choice coming from him.
I would rather want to see him having more playing time overseas than in the NBA where most of the time, he's just benched. I mean he can just be a good three-point shooter and we just saw it in the recent Olympics.
I’m going to come right out and say it. Klay is washed. Physically, he is a shell of his former self. Mentally, his confidence is shot. I think he not only has a terrible year that makes Mark Cuban regret signing him, but I think his play and roster spot will actually make Dallas a worse team and close their window for winning a championship. Ultimately, this will be why Luka ends up a Laker.
I will agree that Klay is washed, and Cuban might've regret signing him... UNTIL WE SEE HOW HE PERFORMS NOW THAT HE'S ON ANOTHER TEAM.

In his final 2-3 years in Golden State, he's inconsistent and not reliable on offense at all. I would say that the injuries that he got affected his overall performance, but now that he's with another team, this might either be his revenge year, or his bust year. Whatever happens, it's too early for me to judge Klay, and I respect your opinion though, but I would like to see it if Klay really is washed now that he's with another team already. We know that there are some players who played awfully with their past team, but played like an all-star on their new team. Smiley
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I just saw this news that Evan Fournier probably have played his last games in the NBA last season. He's signing with Olympiacos, in Greece for three years. Maybe he might come back after this contract or if there's a team that will still take and sign him once his contract expires there.

Source: Evan Fournier signing with Olympiacos for the next three years

I don't blame him honestly.  He made a good amount of money here.  He is pretty much relegated to riding pine for most of the games so what else would he want to stay here for except for that championship ring.  In Greece he will be playing meaningful minutes in meaningful games.  Liked when the Knicks picked him up and won't forget his first game in a knicks jersey against Boston.  
On their end, it's a thing to get a ring in the NBA. But if it's about making money, most of the players now understands that it's all about making money outside the league. It's true that he's made a lot of money here and will make more afterwards. Players like Evan when playing outside NBA, they're given more playing time and treated as a star so, that's more than a ring to them and he's able to represent France and got a silver. That's already flying colors for his career there.

Agree to that, what he shows up during Olympics gives him that chance to get that contract outside NBA, it's better to take that instead of keep sitting down and watch the game, I mean aside from the money there's no reason to stay if he's not going to get that minutes and give him that chance to showcase his talents.
Yup, it's all about getting playing time. I'm sure that players like him want to earn good money but aside from that, the love for the game and actually play. I wish him luck playing in Greece and this is what happens to most of the NBA players that will get out of the league, they won't just be out without having some nice contracts in offshore leagues.
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On the other hand, we have a lot of questions whether Klay has still some extra on his body after that bad season he had with the Warriors that push either one of them to not be engage on negotiations for him to stay as a Warrior for the rest of his career.

That's a big question, but we will find out in the coming season. However, even if Klay may not return to his old self, as long as he can still contribute, I think the Mavs will improve. This is because Klay has the maturity from his experience as a multiple-time champion, so it's definitely a good catch for the Mavs.

Klay's shooting was probably affected by his chemistry with the team. Gradually, he hasn't felt the confidence he once had, perhaps due to criticism of his performance or because the team hasn't given him enough time to recover and regain his old form.

I’m going to come right out and say it. Klay is washed. Physically, he is a shell of his former self. Mentally, his confidence is shot. I think he not only has a terrible year that makes Mark Cuban regret signing him, but I think his play and roster spot will actually make Dallas a worse team and close their window for winning a championship. Ultimately, this will be why Luka ends up a Laker.
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On the other hand, we have a lot of questions whether Klay has still some extra on his body after that bad season he had with the Warriors that push either one of them to not be engage on negotiations for him to stay as a Warrior for the rest of his career.

That's a big question, but we will find out in the coming season. However, even if Klay may not return to his old self, as long as he can still contribute, I think the Mavs will improve. This is because Klay has the maturity from his experience as a multiple-time champion, so it's definitely a good catch for the Mavs.

Klay's shooting was probably affected by his chemistry with the team. Gradually, he hasn't felt the confidence he once had, perhaps due to criticism of his performance or because the team hasn't given him enough time to recover and regain his old form.
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September 03, 2024, 06:21:26 AM
Still, I don't see the Warriors in the championship, for the West it might be Klay who will be up there with Kyrie and Luka or the Timberwolves for the West.

The Mavs will be interesting to watch in the upcoming season. At least, it seems to me that Luka, Kyrie, and Klay will be able to make some progress and probably go deep into the playoffs again. As for the Wolves, I have my doubts about them, especially after their poor performance in the Western Conference finals last playoffs.

Yeah, it makes the Mavs one of the favorites if I'm not mistaken before of the addition of Klay Thompson. But just like when we talk about on the other side, Warriors has Hield and he could or could not replace Klay.

On the other hand, we have a lot of questions whether Klay has still some extra on his body after that bad season he had with the Warriors that push either one of them to not be engage on negotiations for him to stay as a Warrior for the rest of his career.
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