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Based on his past salaries, he is not making big money anymore, so I understand the decision.
https://hoopshype.com/player/patrick-beverley/salary/

Based on the news,
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So he is already secured with that salary, plus he will earned heavy minutes, unlike playing with the NBA where he will just be in the bench.
I think he still want to really show his value and at this stage, it's best to show it overseas.

Yeah he get more than that in NBA, He also receive an offer from Detroit Pistons and Houston Rockets a minimum veteran contract which is more than what he can get from Hapoel Tel Aviv. But I guess he decide to go on Europe and continue his journey there.

By the way this is good article to read about that news https://sports.yahoo.com/patrick-beverley-says-hes-leaving-nba-to-sign-with-hapoel-tel-aviv-in-the-israeli-basketball-league-191407649.html

Also for Embiid yeah many notice his exhibition match performance but, its no bearing game that's why its expected that they won't give all since for sure they are reserving their energy for more important games and also they try to avoid major injuries.

Actually, there were two teams interested in Patrick Beverley in the NBA, but he rejected them.
He rejected all the Veteran Minimum Contracts from the Detroit Pistons and Houston Rockets.
He signed with Hapoel Tel Aviv.
I understood from here that he wanted to leave the NBA, or he may have different thoughts.

6’2 - 210lb ..good bulk for his height , but yeah obviously 6’2 is a long ways off from 6’8 like his old man. Its also a different story if you’ve got ball handling skills like crazy, but I’m not sure he does (still hard to believe guys like Mugsy and Spud played in the league..how epic were those hornets teams tho).

Yeah from what you mentioned the dudes on the podcasts are saying, it does feel more like an excuse than a legitimate argument, but I guess we will see. Not too long ago I heard his bro was likely to be the better of the two. He’s definitely taller I know. Will be really interesting to see how it plays out.  Will be even more interesting to see them playing together this coming year. I think no matter what, regardless of Bronnys play in the D League, we’re gunna see him up on the Lakers at some point. Thats his dads dream and they may not have another opportunity being Lebron getting so “old” and Bronny maybe never good enough to play in the league without his pops influence.

I'm surprised to read today that the contract which included everything he asked for was only $2,000,000 per year for 2 years.  His last NBA contract had to be for significantly more than that, right?  I'm pretty sure that's below the veterans minimum in the NBA.  I guess that means not a single team in the NBA was interested in signing Pat Bev.  That, or the Israeli's are giving him some incredible perks outside of his compensation, which is more likely in my opinion than no team in the NBA wanting him for the league minimum.

Edit: Looks like I'm not the only one who thought Embiid wasn't making the expected effort in these exhibition games.  https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/joel-embiid-s-lackluster-performance-against-serbia-sparks-calls-for-benchings-from-nba-fans/ar-BB1q9YSk

Orlando is one of the good teams in Summer League. They won both games they played and in the last game they managed to get scoring contributions from every player who came into the game. Tristan Da Silva, Jett Howard and Jay Huff were the standouts. Memphis also won the two games they played and was notable for its high scoring production. I think both teams will up the tempo in this game and we will see a high scoring game.

It is only natural that Bronny got this much attention, for basically two main reasons aside from him being Lebrons son. First of all, the draft is weak, there aren't anyone who deserves more talk, like not a lot of people know even who the first pick is, everyone talks about Bronny so much that if we asked even NBA fans, they wouldn't be able to name top three picks, because it is a terrible draft and not any good players will come out of this. I would be shocked to see if there are 10 players who play 10 seasons out of this draft, majority of them will be overseas much sooner, but you don't get to say "I rather not pick", if you have a draft right, you pick someone "just in case" and if they are as bad as you think they are, you just don't sign them back.

Bronny talks are mainly (aside from being lebrons son) because of this, because if there was some superstar potential player, like if Wemby was drafted this year, that would have probably taken some attention away from Bronny. Secondly, he was not ready, not because he is bad, but because he had some medical conditions and did not play, he should have played a bit, not to be better, but to gain experience, he did not ,so he is "basically" like from high school to NBA, and very rare amount of players can do that successfully.

That is a good question. I’ve never followed college basketball much, but from the podcasts I’ve watched with NBA players talking about the situation, they claim that Bronny has been trained for the NBA since day 1 and college ball is more about fitting into a system. That’s the excuse anyway. I think his college numbers would justify a starting role had he stayed, but I also think his height is a major factor that will limit his NBA effectiveness. It should also be noted I have a terrible track record of predicting how young players will fare in the NBA. I thought Wiggins would be the next MJ and I thought LaMelo would be a bust.

I have a question for those of you who have a better grasp of the league right now, and especially college basketball..but my question is would Bronny James even be starting at USC had he stayed another year?  I know that he wasn't doing all that great last year, and it's just kind of crazy to think that he might not even be starting at USC next year...despite being drafted in the NBA this year. 

We all know he'd not have been drafted regardless, if his dad wasn't who he is.

Starting from his college basketball, to being drafted and to his plays, the kid is always getting the hate. Well, he can't avoid that and he can learn from his dad on how to just ignore all of the hate that's being thrown to him. He's starting out his career and people are laughing at how low the points he's contributing to their recent games. People should also talk about Alex Sarr, the second draft pick by the Washington Wizards and look at the numbers that he's contributed to their most recent game. 

Maybe he has some better offer outside the NBA, but he will be miss for sure as if he'll just being utilized well, he could help the team in terms of defense. Unfortunately for him, he landed on a bad team, a team that is just full of hype but struggled in the playoffs. Lillard + Giannis, not really a good pair iMO.


Brown should just respect Bronny's father, I know he doesn't look like on the level of the NBA, but he could have keep it on himself. Saying that is just like saying Bronny has no chance to improve and Lebron is using his influence to draft his son.

And later on, we will see constructive criticism on Bronny if ever he will play. Yes, everyone is entitled to his opinion and Jaylen Brown just so happen to give his and then it's up to us whether we want to believed it or not, but I guess right now, we will say that Jaylen is spot on with his criticism.

With that, everything is on Bronny, he will really have to live up the hype of being Lebron James son. Although there are a lot of great rookies as well in this class. And just imagine out of nowhere, Bronny proved everyone wrong by winning ROTY award, that will be fitting for him and to Lebron too. But that is a long shot and the chances are very slim.

Exactly and nothing wrong with giving his opinion the way how Bronny perform. We can really see for couple of games he participated that he's not NBA ready yet. But the greed of his father to add a milestone for his career will make his son suffer. For sure lot more criticism will come as Bronny will always be hot in the eyes of NBA fans.

Those kind of statement is not for hate. For sure everyone could able to notice that Bronny performance really suck. To bad for young man experiencing this to much pressure on his career. If they could just wait for another year then train more harder maybe Bronny would became more better at matured player at that time.

Not sure if there are players that are disrespecting Lebron, maybe after he retires we will hear stories how other players treat him. But for now, I'm not seeing any respect (I could be wrong though, this is just my observation). They even called him for his flop, but you can't hear stories of Jordan flopping or missing some games because of injuries. And we all know that is what Bronny is, he is not yet in the level, and the Lakers pick him up because of Lebron James. And it could be that Lakers misses another of their target in Gary Trent Jr, when he signs a one year contract with the Bucks already?

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10128526-lakers-top-free-agent-trade-options-after-gary-trent-jr-signs-bucks-contract

This is not a statement, he just stated his own opinion. Everyone can have an opinion, in my opinion it is unnecessary exaggeration of Bronny.

Most players may think this way but they may not say it out of respect for Lebron.

He should use those criticizm to prove something and not to let to it go inside his brain, he need something to shutup his crtics by giving them good performance, I guess it takes time but with a wide range coverage of social media it's not going to be easy for this young player, he will continue to gain the attention as he's a good source of stories.

Bad or good content will still grab the attentions of the readers and viewers, it's not easy to be on his shoe as he's been judge already without allowing him to perform fully in this coming season.

That's just what it is, I mean even here in our own community, we thought that Bronny is not yet ready for the big league or if he will be ready even if he did college basketball because it's really different here.

And I don't think the players are going to give him special treatment as well, on the contrary there are a lot of players that wanted to give him the "welcome to the NBA" moments, and I'm wondering who will it be. Maybe giving Bronny a hard pick or just posterizing him,  .

There's a chance they kept that news so that they won't use that reason if ever they win or lose or maybe he broke at the last game of the Finals against the Celtics or after that.

Gary Trent Jr. with the Milwaukee Bucks? I think that's a good addition. Now they have more shooters and they need that badly because their plays are too predictable with either Giannis Antetokounmpo holding the ball or Damian Lillard. Also, I think they need some good plays and stop the isolation plays. It's a losing play in this era unless they are all KD.  

Seth Curry is now a Charlotte Hornets for a 1-year deal. I don't know if this is good because they are still a small ball line-up with forwards and guards. They need a legit center and pair it with LaMelo Ball if he is going to be the face of the Hornets.

I don't know, but it's only an exhibition game, and they don't need to go on full throttle on that match.

I doubt that they will go all in on other countries on exhibition games because there's a chance that they might get injured. They only won by 6 against Australia despite them winning by double-digit by a stronger team in Canada, but we know that the USA team will win, right? Like you, I don't also see it as a major concern as well, and I will not be surprised if they will be losing on one or two of their exhibition matches just because they didn't go all-in.

That's what you get when your father is one of the all-time greats. He knew it already right from the start, and the pressure is getting him.
We knew it already ever since he's in the college that he will not be the same as his father. Averaging single digit in points during his college stint is already a sign that he will not be like his father. The fans are only the ones that are expecting that he MUST be. I feel sad for him as well because he's getting this much attention, but it is what it is.

As for Brown's statement, with how he's playing right now, I guess I will agree on him. Bronny to G-league? There's a chance, but of course, Le-GM will use his powers again so that it will not happen. Poor kiddo indeed.

Shams reporting that Kyrie Irving broke his hand a month ago and just underwent surgery! That’s a bit of a surprise. At least to me. I would think if this wasn’t being kept secret I would’ve heard something about it. Maybe I missed the news? Anyway, I’m sure he’ll be good to go by the start of the season and probably won’t effect him staying in shape too much.