Author

Topic: 2019 NBA Pre-Season - page 1169. (Read 920810 times)

hero member
Activity: 3052
Merit: 685
July 02, 2022, 08:17:16 AM
So now the Jazz has twin towers? Rudy Gobert and KAT?
I think the news says that Gobert is traded to Wolves, therefore he will be in a new team playing with KAT.

not sure if this is a good combination and what will Rudy bring to them? I think this is a bad trade for the Wolves, except for his defense, I don't think Rudy offers something that will change the course of their team. On the contrary he might be liable again when small teams going to take advantage of Rudy in pick and roll and then simply get past by him in iso play outside.
Jazz are done with Gobert, he maybe is a good defensively but inside he has no big contribution especially in the playoffs, so I think it's a good decision that Jazz will let him go to experiment with new players in exchange.
hero member
Activity: 2842
Merit: 772
July 02, 2022, 07:19:09 AM

Just in as news: Looney stays with the Warriors on a 3-year contract for a $25.5M deal.
(https://www.si.com/nba/warriors/news/kevon-looney-re-signs-3-year-deal-with-warriors)

That's already a good deal, he is not a superstar but he showed hard work during the playoffs that made the team the NBA champion. I like the management decision of making him stay he really deserves to be in the Warriors because he has a heart of a champion.

By the way, are there any news about the Warriors adding some big man in their roster through trade?

Honestly, it's already a good team for Looney, to stay with the Warriors for 3 years. I guess if the Warriors can win even 1 out of those 3 years that he is in, it's already a good return. And it's not about the money for a player like Looney, it's about the chemistry and the camaraderie as he was part of the team in their last championship run.

Yes, he might not be as dominant as the other center in the league, but he gets the job done. I think it was against Dallas that he got some good games, in both rebound (offensive and defensive) and scoring wise. And not just that, I think he could be the one who has the most screens set on either Steph, Jordan Poole and Klay Thompson to hit that outside shot. So it doesn't matter who is on the floor, Looney knows his position, low or even high pick and roll.

That's correct, it's also about winning a championship and Looney will never forget in his life that he was able to play with one of the greatest players in the NBA which is Stephen Curry. He is not not a type of a dominant big man but he always play hard and follow his role, he is such a professional player who always value teamwork over personal interest.

Yeah, Looney is just calm when he plays that's why he will not receive a technical foul, but at the same time, he is also very competitive, if we still remember, he had some big games during the playoffs because of his aggressive play, he slowly transform from just a rebounder into an offensive player as well.
hero member
Activity: 2828
Merit: 518
July 02, 2022, 06:35:32 AM
So now the Jazz has twin towers? Rudy Gobert and KAT? not sure if this is a good combination and what will Rudy bring to them? I think this is a bad trade for the Wolves, except for his defense, I don't think Rudy offers something that will change the course of their team. On the contrary he might be liable again when small teams going to take advantage of Rudy in pick and roll and then simply get past by him in iso play outside.

Seems a bad trade but they could make this roster work. KAT will have to play PF and put Rudy on the Center position. This might work, however the game of NBA today has changes so much that the scores might usually comes from a three pointer. The Wolves might have a strong inside presence but might not work with an opponent who have a lot of shooters.
The wolves could also put Rudy on the 2nd squad.

They make that decision so I believe they already know their weakness and strengths. Keeping both big man in the team, that's a big advantage if they will play big as they will own the paint, but let's see if it will work in the actual game as in paper they look good now.
hero member
Activity: 2954
Merit: 719
July 02, 2022, 06:28:07 AM

Just in as news: Looney stays with the Warriors on a 3-year contract for a $25.5M deal.
(https://www.si.com/nba/warriors/news/kevon-looney-re-signs-3-year-deal-with-warriors)

That's already a good deal, he is not a superstar but he showed hard work during the playoffs that made the team the NBA champion. I like the management decision of making him stay he really deserves to be in the Warriors because he has a heart of a champion.

By the way, are there any news about the Warriors adding some big man in their roster through trade?

Honestly, it's already a good team for Looney, to stay with the Warriors for 3 years. I guess if the Warriors can win even 1 out of those 3 years that he is in, it's already a good return. And it's not about the money for a player like Looney, it's about the chemistry and the camaraderie as he was part of the team in their last championship run.

That's correct, it's also about winning a championship and Looney will never forget in his life that he was able to play with one of the greatest players in the NBA which is Stephen Curry. He is not not a type of a dominant big man but he always play hard and follow his role, he is such a professional player who always value teamwork over personal interest.

Yeah, Looney is just calm when he plays that's why he will not receive a technical foul, but at the same time, he is also very competitive, if we still remember, he had some big games during the playoffs because of his aggressive play, he slowly transform from just a rebounder into an offensive player as well.
legendary
Activity: 3108
Merit: 1290
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
July 02, 2022, 06:15:56 AM

Just in as news: Looney stays with the Warriors on a 3-year contract for a $25.5M deal.
(https://www.si.com/nba/warriors/news/kevon-looney-re-signs-3-year-deal-with-warriors)

That's already a good deal, he is not a superstar but he showed hard work during the playoffs that made the team the NBA champion. I like the management decision of making him stay he really deserves to be in the Warriors because he has a heart of a champion.

By the way, are there any news about the Warriors adding some big man in their roster through trade?

Honestly, it's already a good team for Looney, to stay with the Warriors for 3 years. I guess if the Warriors can win even 1 out of those 3 years that he is in, it's already a good return. And it's not about the money for a player like Looney, it's about the chemistry and the camaraderie as he was part of the team in their last championship run.

That's correct, it's also about winning a championship and Looney will never forget in his life that he was able to play with one of the greatest players in the NBA which is Stephen Curry. He is not not a type of a dominant big man but he always play hard and follow his role, he is such a professional player who always value teamwork over personal interest.
hero member
Activity: 1344
Merit: 540
July 02, 2022, 06:03:17 AM

Just in as news: Looney stays with the Warriors on a 3-year contract for a $25.5M deal.
(https://www.si.com/nba/warriors/news/kevon-looney-re-signs-3-year-deal-with-warriors)

That's already a good deal, he is not a superstar but he showed hard work during the playoffs that made the team the NBA champion. I like the management decision of making him stay he really deserves to be in the Warriors because he has a heart of a champion.

By the way, are there any news about the Warriors adding some big man in their roster through trade?

Honestly, it's already a good team for Looney, to stay with the Warriors for 3 years. I guess if the Warriors can win even 1 out of those 3 years that he is in, it's already a good return. And it's not about the money for a player like Looney, it's about the chemistry and the camaraderie as he was part of the team in their last championship run.
legendary
Activity: 3108
Merit: 1290
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
July 02, 2022, 05:58:04 AM

Just in as news: Looney stays with the Warriors on a 3-year contract for a $25.5M deal.
(https://www.si.com/nba/warriors/news/kevon-looney-re-signs-3-year-deal-with-warriors)

That's already a good deal, he is not a superstar but he showed hard work during the playoffs that made the team the NBA champion. I like the management decision of making him stay he really deserves to be in the Warriors because he has a heart of a champion.

By the way, are there any news about the Warriors adding some big man in their roster through trade?
hero member
Activity: 3066
Merit: 629
20BET - Premium Casino & Sportsbook
July 02, 2022, 04:55:14 AM
If Durant, LeBron, and Irving were on the same team, it would be the most dominant trio of the last decade. Although I doubt the Lakers will be able to pull off such a crazy deal.
It's possible that they can pull this off but I'm no longer that enthusiast with such super teams. We've seen that for the past season and it's actually optimistic but the result will really vary.
If this happen for me this is a big trio Irving, lebron and durant is a good option for the team if they made that for sure they can  easily win or easily pass in the quarter finals. Because we all know that if lebron has a good teammates and have a food coaching plays for we can see the play of lebron again leading a high scoring every game.
Well, they're going to share a ring for sure. But, we don't know that this trio is going to be the champ because we saw good teams that have great players but wasn't enough.
Just in as news: Looney stays with the Warriors on a 3-year contract for a $25.5M deal.
(https://www.si.com/nba/warriors/news/kevon-looney-re-signs-3-year-deal-with-warriors)
hero member
Activity: 3094
Merit: 654
July 02, 2022, 03:33:03 AM
So now the Jazz has twin towers? Rudy Gobert and KAT? not sure if this is a good combination and what will Rudy bring to them? I think this is a bad trade for the Wolves, except for his defense, I don't think Rudy offers something that will change the course of their team. On the contrary he might be liable again when small teams going to take advantage of Rudy in pick and roll and then simply get past by him in iso play outside.

We don't know what potential Rudy might bring to the Wolves and what's the reason behind this trade,

KAT and Gobert combination inside if they will play together, the defense inside might be tighter, but like what you just said
Gobert can be a liability once the opponents go small and attack outside. They can use their quickness to kill the defense,
the best example to that is the GSW, where everyone can shoot outside when duty calls them to take the shots.
Not just GSW but most of the teams now have that kind of play. I'd give it a chance though, there must be something going inside that we don't know on why they want Rudy on their roster. Decisions like this are not done without plans. I just don't like to see that big man being benched. He is still one of the best inside defenders of the league and it will be a waste if that will not be used properly.
Jazz though might be doing the vice versa, going small, it will be a challenge for the Spider.
hero member
Activity: 2828
Merit: 553
July 02, 2022, 03:25:38 AM
So now the Jazz has twin towers? Rudy Gobert and KAT? not sure if this is a good combination and what will Rudy bring to them? I think this is a bad trade for the Wolves, except for his defense, I don't think Rudy offers something that will change the course of their team. On the contrary he might be liable again when small teams going to take advantage of Rudy in pick and roll and then simply get past by him in iso play outside.

Seems a bad trade but they could make this roster work. KAT will have to play PF and put Rudy on the Center position. This might work, however the game of NBA today has changes so much that the scores might usually comes from a three pointer. The Wolves might have a strong inside presence but might not work with an opponent who have a lot of shooters.
The wolves could also put Rudy on the 2nd squad.
legendary
Activity: 2982
Merit: 1028
July 02, 2022, 03:07:55 AM
So now the Jazz has twin towers? Rudy Gobert and KAT? not sure if this is a good combination and what will Rudy bring to them? I think this is a bad trade for the Wolves, except for his defense, I don't think Rudy offers something that will change the course of their team. On the contrary he might be liable again when small teams going to take advantage of Rudy in pick and roll and then simply get past by him in iso play outside.

We don't know what potential Rudy might bring to the Wolves and what's the reason behind this trade,

KAT and Gobert combination inside if they will play together, the defense inside might be tighter, but like what you just said
Gobert can be a liability once the opponents go small and attack outside. They can use their quickness to kill the defense,
the best example to that is the GSW, where everyone can shoot outside when duty calls them to take the shots.
hero member
Activity: 1862
Merit: 601
The Martian Child
July 02, 2022, 03:03:06 AM
So now the Jazz has twin towers? Rudy Gobert and KAT? not sure if this is a good combination and what will Rudy bring to them? I think this is a bad trade for the Wolves, except for his defense, I don't think Rudy offers something that will change the course of their team. On the contrary he might be liable again when small teams going to take advantage of Rudy in pick and roll and then simply get past by him in iso play outside.

Basically yes, but KAT might move to power forward position, maybe that's where they went him to be, post day and then shooting outside, sort of Dirk during his prime. They still have a good play maker in Russell, so there is no love lost for Rudy Gobert. He will be his Donovan Mitchell now, lob and alley oop for him, the play will continue with him.

Minnesota actually wants to get rid of Russell. I also think that Russell is not a good fit in Minnesota. His current contract is even more not worth to keep for Minnesota since he will become only a 4th option with the arrival of 3 time DPOY Rudy Gobert.   

I was very surprised upon seeing Gobert's message, thanking Utah and will now play with the Timberwolves. I knew Utah changed their hearts few months ago and preferred to just keep Mitchell. I just didn't expect of Gobert heading to Minnesota. A lot of thoughts came into my mind. Will Towns and Gobert combo along with Edwards work? Although we saw how Towns developed further his shooting skills, his body is just perfect for a physical type of game.

Nonetheless, this is still a good move by Minnesota rather than relying on their previous roster. Who knows, they will be the one to stop the trending small-ball offense. Both towers are very good team players too so they will adjust accordingly what's needed.
legendary
Activity: 2576
Merit: 1655
July 02, 2022, 02:04:44 AM
So now the Jazz has twin towers? Rudy Gobert and KAT? not sure if this is a good combination and what will Rudy bring to them? I think this is a bad trade for the Wolves, except for his defense, I don't think Rudy offers something that will change the course of their team. On the contrary he might be liable again when small teams going to take advantage of Rudy in pick and roll and then simply get past by him in iso play outside.

Basically yes, but KAT might move to power forward position, maybe that's where they went him to be, post day and then shooting outside, sort of Dirk during his prime. They still have a good play maker in Russell, so there is no love lost for Rudy Gobert. He will be his Donovan Mitchell now, lob and alley oop for him, the play will continue with him. While the Bulls,  offer Zach Lavine a 5 year max contract.

Quote
The two-time All-Star and Olympic gold medalist said Friday he has agreed to a new deal with the Bulls. LaVine will be signing a five-year max contract worth about $215 million, according to a person with direct knowledge of the terms who spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because the pact cannot be signed until next week by league rule.
legendary
Activity: 2814
Merit: 1576
July 02, 2022, 12:33:25 AM
So now the Jazz has twin towers? Rudy Gobert and KAT? not sure if this is a good combination and what will Rudy bring to them? I think this is a bad trade for the Wolves, except for his defense, I don't think Rudy offers something that will change the course of their team. On the contrary he might be liable again when small teams going to take advantage of Rudy in pick and roll and then simply get past by him in iso play outside.

I don't know if these two players can get along in the game. Rudy Gobert is a good center but he's older now, so I think it wasn't a very good trade. Also, basketball players who have played in the same team for a long time may experience adaptation problems when they move to a new team.
If Gobert can get used to this team, they could perform quite well with KAT Smiley
legendary
Activity: 3346
Merit: 1134
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
July 02, 2022, 12:02:37 AM
Did I see the wrong NBA Team, I really wanted to do it.
That's NBA Summer League. Yes, you will not see stars playing there because it consists of rising stars like G League players, rookies, and sophomores. It will be a big risk to bet on it but, if you do know about them then go for it.

"Utah Jazz trading star center Rudy Gobert to Minnesota Timberwolves for four first-round picks"
source: https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/34180894/sources-utah-jazz-trading-star-center-rudy-gobert-minnesota-timberwolves

I'm not sure how is this going to work for the Wolves honestly, i really don't like it. KAT is a shooter and all that but in a league where most teams are downsizing, i just don't see the fit. Rudy gonna clog the paint for A. Edwards and Wolves gonna be exploited defending the PnRs having two bigs at the same time. Not only is not a good fit but they had to give away four first-round picks. Lol   Imagine how many firsts are the Nets gonna get for Durant?
So the Wolves will go slow balling.  Grin I like how they played against the Grizzlies battling the speed of a young team. I agree this is not a good fit. What could their management be planning?
It looks bad. And, who will let go of PatBev after that recent stunt in Minnesota feeling like a champ?  Cheesy

"Celtics acquire Malcolm Brogdon in trade with Indiana Pacers"
source: https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/34180437/boston-celtics-acquire-malcolm-brogdon-trade-indiana-pacers-sources-say

Excellent trade for Boston, getting Brogdon basically for free, a '23 first-rounder, and some scrubs. Celtics showed a glaring need for a ball-handler/playmaker in the Finals against Golden State. J. Holiday did wonders for Milwaukee in their championship year, this trade could be big for Boston.
There it is. Marcus Smart cannot make the big plays as his ball-handling is not that good and if Tatum or Brown receives it the play becomes isolation. This is a good decision, they know what the missing piece is.
hero member
Activity: 1568
Merit: 564
July 01, 2022, 08:29:13 PM
So now the Jazz has twin towers? Rudy Gobert and KAT? not sure if this is a good combination and what will Rudy bring to them? I think this is a bad trade for the Wolves, except for his defense, I don't think Rudy offers something that will change the course of their team. On the contrary he might be liable again when small teams going to take advantage of Rudy in pick and roll and then simply get past by him in iso play outside.
sr. member
Activity: 1554
Merit: 413
July 01, 2022, 08:16:19 PM
....
As for the Jazz, I don't quite understand their benefit in this deal. If they really wanted to completely rebuild the roster, that would be a pretty strange decision as they clearly weren't the underdogs last season.

 Shocked
Quote

Timberwolves receive:

• Rudy Gobert

Jazz receive:

• Malik Beasley
• Patrick Beverley
• Leandro Bolmaro
• Walker Kessler
• Jarred Vanderbilt
• 2023 first-round pick
• 2025 first-round pick
• 2026 pick swap
• 2027 first-round pick
• 2029 first-round pick (protected)
I mean why pass up an opportunity like that? His stats looks normal for a guy his size but it's not like he is still in his 20's. I say Jazz did well in this trade and they have more options now if they want to find a replacement. They could get a younger and more agile center with just half of what they receive from Wolves.
hero member
Activity: 2632
Merit: 833
July 01, 2022, 07:53:43 PM
It will be an amazing and hard-to-defeat roster if in-case Kyrie Irving and Kevin Durant will wear the same jersey as LeBron used to wear but yeah, that's just a hard thing to pull off. The nearest scenario that can happen is Durant on the Suns as today he requested a trade and preferred the Valley as a destination but I don't really think that the Suns will give up Booker that easily while Irving was on the table for Lakers trade.

I hope Kevin Durant, Kyrie Irving, and Lebron James will wear different jerseys this upcoming season. Talents should be spread at different teams as we are tired of seeing a stacked team. It's good if that stacked team came from drafting those players but if the team was being stacked because they were able to acquire and sign different superstars, that will just make the competition not that competitive.

Most likely Durant and Irving might don different jerseys, but I doubt about Lebron. As far as talent spread, it has been the norm though, the Celtics dynasty of the 60's and then Lakers has history have good and pretty much stack up line. So that's how them are built and win championship I guess.

Like last season, that was the competition we want to see as it's not easy to predict games last playoffs and Finals. The same kind of competition should happen again next season where everything is unpredictable and lower teams can upset Favorite teams.

Last season there was injury and then players coming back from injuries as well like Thompson that really help them win another ring. Luka doing everything against the Suns. Maybe that is one upset, as the Suns don't have any answer for Luka's magic. But a good team like the Warriors stop Luka.
legendary
Activity: 3108
Merit: 2360
July 01, 2022, 07:00:57 PM
Rudy Gobert to the Minnesota Timberwolves? That’s what I’m hearing. How does that make sense when they just gave KAT a quarter billion dollars? Will Gobert and KAT ever see the floor together? Something big seems to be brewing in Utah. It’s looking like they may gut the entire team. Waiting to see what happens with Donovan Mitchell now.

It's kind of a controversial deal. The Wolves clearly traded too many players, and draft picks for Gobert. However, as the guys wrote above, KAT may play as a power forward while Gobert is a center. In that case, the Wolves might potentially have a strong starting lineup. As for the Jazz, I don't quite understand their benefit in this deal. If they really wanted to completely rebuild the roster, that would be a pretty strange decision as they clearly weren't the underdogs last season.

 Shocked
Quote

Timberwolves receive:

• Rudy Gobert

Jazz receive:

• Malik Beasley
• Patrick Beverley
• Leandro Bolmaro
• Walker Kessler
• Jarred Vanderbilt
• 2023 first-round pick
• 2025 first-round pick
• 2026 pick swap
• 2027 first-round pick
• 2029 first-round pick (protected)
legendary
Activity: 2436
Merit: 1008
July 01, 2022, 06:59:18 PM
It will be an amazing and hard-to-defeat roster if in-case Kyrie Irving and Kevin Durant will wear the same jersey as LeBron used to wear but yeah, that's just a hard thing to pull off. The nearest scenario that can happen is Durant on the Suns as today he requested a trade and preferred the Valley as a destination but I don't really think that the Suns will give up Booker that easily while Irving was on the table for Lakers trade.

I hope Kevin Durant, Kyrie Irving, and Lebron James will wear different jerseys this upcoming season. Talents should be spread at different teams as we are tired of seeing a stacked team. It's good if that stacked team came from drafting those players but if the team was being stacked because they were able to acquire and sign different superstars, that will just make the competition not that competitive.

Like last season, that was the competition we want to see as it's not easy to predict games last playoffs and Finals. The same kind of competition should happen again next season where everything is unpredictable and lower teams can upset Favorite teams.
Jump to: