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Is he that impactful to the Heat? I doubt that. The team have enough in that position to cover his departure. Let's not also forget that they drafted a 6' 11" guy Nikola Jović. That's younger and taller than him so I think they are still good even if they are not very active in the trades yet.

No if it's just him and some role players.
No again if one of the trio is missing.

Not to devalue the competition in the East but we're talking about the Western Conference here. Each team needs at least three guys to contribute on a consistent basis if they want a higher chance at getting to the Finals.

I'm not looking yet at the trade details involving Rudy Gobert but from the list, you have posted, that was an insane trade and not a worth deal.

Those 3-4 first-round picks can be a potential superstars in the making in the future. Teams are even tanking just to get that 1st round picks on the draft night. Might make sense to give up 1 first-round pick but for multiple players involved, that was a waste of talent just for Rudy Gobert.

Need to check deeply the details of this trade. Utah Jazz clearly won the trade if that's the return they will get on trading Rudy Gobert.

True.

There's no debate for that, we all want them to see stay with the same team because of their contribution to the ring that they've got for the past season.

Well, those problems will certainly exist eventually. But it's for them to tackle it and they have just to lean on what they've said of keeping most of these players.

Truly a deserving contact.

I think we should not question if he can get this team to NBA Finals since he needs a good teammate to do that. Jokic is doing his best but that was all useless if his teammates won't do their job to help him. Jokic might be more aggressive next season because the Nuggets rewarded him and treat Jokic as their precious player.

What the Nuggets should do next is to join the free agency and find the best players to assist Jokic on their rally next season.

If we are talking about super max contract, we got one:  Denver Nuggets star Nikola Jokic agrees to five-year, $270 million supermax extension.


I think he deserves every penny of it, he really work hard to get to this position, winning multiple MVP's now. But the argument is, can he get this team at least to the NBA finals? Although Jamal Murray and then Porter Jr was injured, but if both or at least one of them play next season, I'm expecting the Dallas to make a run to the championship.

I think that's Brunson target, and  maybe it was finalized through his father and that is why the Knicks have traded some of their players to clear some cap and then get Brunson. Mavs can't do anything about it anyways. And yeah, we might say they Mavs won in this trade, because we don't know if Brunson is going to play like an All star when he moves to New York. Mavs can get another player and developed him to be their next point guard.

The Dallas Mavericks won. Why they should keep a player that there's no intention of playing with them? Brunson chooses a team that is not a playoffs contender so it all end up with the money. Dallas offered him with $45-50M 3-years contract and that was just a reasonable contact but he wants more that's why he take the Knicks' offer of $100M+ for 3 years. Imagine he's already on a good team but chooses the worst team. Dallas didn't match the contract as that was just a waste of the salary cap where they can use it to get more role players. Brunson is good but he's not Luka.

Someone also posted here that Brunson's hometown is New York and his father was part of the coaching staff of the Knicks. It means it's a good decision for the Mavericks to let go of Brunson as they already did their best to make him stay. Brunson was really going to Knicks but just waiting if the Mavericks will pay him more.

To be honest, I doubt that Irving is the kind of player that Mark Cuban would like to have on his team. So it's unlikely that we'll ever see Irving in Mavs uniform. As far as I know, the Lakers and Nets are already actively discussing the terms of the deal, and there are rumors that the Nets may get Westbrook, THT or Nunn and draft picks, while the Lakers may get Irving and Harris or Curry.

I still think it makes no sense to get Irving when the team is already doing so well. I mean Mavs went to conference finals and that is with Doncic and good role players, they have no other superstar in the team. They could just keep it rolling like this for a while, and hope that they could get a superstar from some free agency or with some picks etc etc. That way, they would be able to get a ring, I am not saying that just because they reached conference finals once, they will do it again every year, they may not be that good again next season.

But, at least they have something they could hope for. With a big trade off, they would be risking too much, which may payoff, but Irving is known to not do well with teams, even if talented, hence I doubt it.

I like that statement, we all have a different point of view regarding to a certain player, and it's all about how fans believe with their

idols, in regard to this trade, both players are valuable and it's up to the team owners and coaches that will handle the players

we can't conclude if ever the trade happened if who will win with this possible trades until we see them playing and performing

who knows they are in two different divisions, might be possible that they've met in the finals right?

I really suggest to read the article that I provide because that’s the latest on this trade talk, The Article you provide is 5 days ago while Brunson just leave few days ago to start this trade talk humor. The article says that it will makes it a lot easier for the Mavs to work out a deal with the Nets since it wouldn't have to be a sign-and-trade. Dallas would simply have to match Irving's salary with some combination of players these players which is very possible when they really want to push this trade. We have different point of view on how we see Kyrie Irving so I will not gonna argue about your remarks about him.

Boston Celtics- The young team seemed very serious to take the title next year. They just stole Malcolm Brogdon and another reliable experienced multi role Danilo Gallinari. They just lost Theis and some bench.

Brooklyn Nets- KD wants out. Obviously, only few will want to play with injury prone and drama queens Kyrie Irving and Ben Simmons.

Denver Nuggets- I am expecting them to make some moves. MVP Jokic needs some help ffs. I felt like they don't deserved Jokic. Jokic is such a very nice guy with some loyalty.

Golden State Warriors- Great move re-signing Looney. Is it cheap for Looney at $25 million for 3 years? Or it is because Looney is just loyal and is obviously very happy in Dub nation? Another savvy move by the Warriors is the signing of Donte DiVencenzo an experienced player from last year champion, the Milwaukee Bucks. Or are these signings possible because the Warriors cannot really afford to retain Andrew Wiggins? They also lost Payton II.

Los Angeles Lakers- Wanted to move Westbrook. I can understand they will risk everything just to utilize Lebron while he is still performing.

Miami Heat- They are doomed if there's no reliable additions with P.J. Tucker leaving.

Milwaukee Bucks- Lost DiVecenzo but acquired Joe Ingles. Fair enough.

Minnesota Timberwolves- Bold move but very interesting. Will their two towers and Edwards uplift Minnesota next season? 

Philadelphia 76ers- Very nice additions. Defensive specialist P.J. Tucker and Daniel House.

Utah Jazz- They seemed rebuilding? They got good future draft picks but they better not waste Mitchell's talent.

I guess it depends on who they will trade for Gobert.

Bunch of players will be sent to Jazz for Gorbert, I don't know I don't like this thread or I think Jazz gets the advantage here.

https://www.nba.com/news/jazz-wolves-rudy-gobert-trade


For one guy, that's too much in return IMO.

Well, this is just my opinion and I like Brunson more than Kyrie Irving, and I think Kyrie Irving is not a good fit for the Dallas Mavericks, he can surely do the offense works by himself but I don't see him as a defensive player at all, and not like Stephen Curry that is playing both roles, I can not trust Kyrie Irving with the defensive department, and I think the Mavericks would likely to used some hands when it comes with defense, but it is your opinion, I really think it is a loss for the Mavericks, and this Article is just rumors and not confirmed yet, because I think Kyrie Irving is likely to be staying for the Brooklyn Nets until his last contract, here is the ARTICLE


They don't really need Kyrie Irving, in my opinion, Luka Doncic is better and can also do what Kyrie can do, what the Mavericks need is a good player that can focus on defense or a player that could help Luka into heavy scoring, I really think Luka Doncic or the Mavericks doesn't really need Kyrie Irving, and Luka Doncic is more consistent in my opinion,


I also think the same, it could be a great tandem and a good addition to the win that is why I listed it as a win for me,

We are going to find out once the season starts, both are earning a decent contract, so both are superstars, their chemistry is very important and I hope Gobert will learn to be a clutch player so he can help his young Minnesota team to succeed in the playoffs.

wow... I confess that I found these negotiations between Minnesota and Jazz very interesting!
I believe, Rudy Gobert will be able to make a excelent duo with KAT 

Let's see how the team will behave with these negociations that occurred between Jazz and Timberwolves

The purposed is for a reliable point guard that can serve a substitute with Luka to give him some time. The chemistry is also can be work out if they will push to this trade but I just realized that Kyrie has an attitude problem which might be bad for Mavs if Luka don’t accept Kyrie.

Kyrie - Westbrook is worst that Kyrie - Luka because westbrook is much more downgrade by Durant with same attitude problem with Kyrie. This will gonna an insane trade if Lakers proceed to this. Even Lebron can blend with him.

Luka and Kyrie. No, that may be an unwise decision if ever they will. All I see is Kyrie-Westbrook being discussed by the Lakers-Nets but not Mavs and I think the Mavs should be adding more roleplayers as Luka and Dinwiddie are already making great chemistry, I'd stick with that.
Agile forwards should be their focus if they are chasing small ball line up. Or, a better center position since Luka doesn't play fast game. He is good at isolation plays, attacking the paint, and creating room for everybody by sucking the defense.
They have Wood now, that tells they know what is missing.

If Dallas was planning a move like that, they could have pursued another talented player with baggage like John Wall. Anyway, what's done is done and they can only hope to get one that would really help Luka.

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I just found out that Andre Drummond agreed to a 2-year, $6.6 million deal with the Bulls. Huge decline from his days at Detroit but a bit better compared to his contracts at Lakers and Sixers.

Another deal you might have missed as well was Devin Booker agreeing on a $224 million 4-year supermax contract. You think he deserves it?

I think if a basketball player is going to play with high performance just to make money or get something, it wouldn't be a good thing. Of course, it's good to reward successful people, but I don't think it's right to provide motivation in this way.
I can't say that I like the players that I see such contracts