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Quote from: danherbias07 on April 09, 2022, 02:39:41 AM

What the heck is happening with the Chicago Bulls? That is just their worst performance of the season. Hornets killed them and there's even one point where they are stuck at 39 points in the first half. So it's true, they are just hyped and nothing more.

The absence of Lonzo and Caruso especially Caruso can be felt if you are watching them playing.
Their defense is very weak that they are allowing a team like Hornets to score 133 points. I thought that they can sustain their spot when they are at the top 1-3 at least but it seems that they aren't. Two injured core players only and they are crumbling. I can't say that they are hyped because they can be a playoff contender if they are complete. Its just that injuries killed the chances of the Bulls which is quite unfortunate.

I thought only the Lakers are choking but it seems that the Jazz too as well. They led by 17 coming into the 4th quarter but the Suns just outscored them in the 4th quarter 36-13 to get the victory. Take note that it is also their home court. For sure coach Snyder is very upset with his team.

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What the heck is happening with the Chicago Bulls? That is just their worst performance of the season. Hornets killed them and there's even one point where they are stuck at 39 points in the first half. So it's true, they are just hyped and nothing more.
I watched the game and my eyes could not even take it, defense none, boxing out to take the rebound none. Sure their offense is one of the top but if you cannot get stops you will just end up losing your game.
The 76ers or Celtics will definitely devour them in the playoffs unless something bad happens.

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Quote from: onetwostep on April 09, 2022, 01:12:01 AM

Jokic's performance is one of the best we've seen in years. This guy is a true star player and I don't think there is a better candidate to be MVP. I really like what he does, I wonder if he will stay with the Nuggets next year.
I think this player deserves to be champion, I would like to see him in a better team Cheesy

There’s a lot of player that destroyed there career by leaving the team that make him famous just to join different team with already a star player. Jokic just need a help and doesn’t need to be trade just to get championship. A player like Kawhi Leonard is enough to help him to go in the finals. Jokic really deserve to become an MVP because he single handedly carry Nuggets in to the playoffs with his consistent impressive performance. I doubt Nuggets will trade him though.

Another good example is Dirk, he didn't leave the team, and he won a ring against Lebron and Wade. So I guess the blue print is there already, the Nuggets management just need to piece together good players around him. Hopefully, with Jamal Murray and Porter Jr, Jokic can achieved an NBA championship maybe in the next 2 years. He just need to stay healthy though.

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Quote from: onetwostep on April 09, 2022, 01:12:01 AM

Jokic's performance is one of the best we've seen in years. This guy is a true star player and I don't think there is a better candidate to be MVP. I really like what he does, I wonder if he will stay with the Nuggets next year.
I think this player deserves to be champion, I would like to see him in a better team Cheesy

There’s a lot of player that destroyed there career by leaving the team that make him famous just to join different team with already a star player. Jokic just need a help and doesn’t need to be trade just to get championship. A player like Kawhi Leonard is enough to help him to go in the finals. Jokic really deserve to become an MVP because he single handedly carry Nuggets in to the playoffs with his consistent impressive performance. I doubt Nuggets will trade him though.

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Jokic's performance is one of the best we've seen in years. This guy is a true star player and I don't think there is a better candidate to be MVP. I really like what he does, I wonder if he will stay with the Nuggets next year.
I think this player deserves to be champion, I would like to see him in a better team Cheesy

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I feel like it was just mere days ago that Cleveland Cavaliers were tied in the standings with Miami Heat. They have been doing quite bad in the last games. Of course things would be different if they had Jarrett Allen. But at least they have secured the 7-10 positions in the east and will go to the play-ons. Still, things not looking so hopeful for them.

On the Nets side, they had a nice win against a possible match-up in the play-ons. Durant had another solid night with 36 points. But also, I doubt that they can advance after 1 or 2 series in playoffs. They need something big for a big success. Let us see have they will do for the trades this summer. But for now, they need huge performances from Durant and Irving, and still it might not be enough.

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Quote from: OgNasty on April 08, 2022, 09:00:23 PM

Quote from: Dave1 on April 08, 2022, 08:37:51 PM

^^ Well you can't blame someone who put some blame on Vogel. He is the anchor of the team so he has some liability as well as how the Lakers turn out to be this season.

I think this is one of Lebron's disappointing season as a player, too much hype and expectation on the team they build around him and Davis, but it sucks, lol. They are now back to the drawing board next season and maybe this will be his final run as a Laker.

I think Vogel should carry a lot of the blame. The minutes he was giving Dwight Howard made no sense all season. Benching Westbrook down the stretch to basically mentally torture the dude. Rob Pelinka should take some of the blame also. The Westbrook trade didn’t work out and the Nunn signing was a worst case scenario. LeBron had a great year. AD proved he can’t stay healthy. Carmelo did better than anyone thought he would. They just couldn’t get it together. Makes you think we should be sending the NBA champions to the Olympics instead of trying to throw a team together.

If we have to trace it, should be on Rob, he has put a team that didn't live up to the expectations. And to add to that, Vogel playing small and making Lebron play center? that's absolutely crazy. Nunn, Westbrook, Trevor Ariza, retaining THT. And yes it was a complete disaster, only James really played very well but he got injured.

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on April 08, 2022, 07:53:40 PM

Everyone is blaming Vogel but I've been saying it from the start of the season they are too old. Vogel had to deal with a crazy amount of injuries, not cause of mistyped playing time just cause they are old. Give this garbage te to any coach and it will end up the same result. Not saying Vogel shoukd stay but if that's their move to get a new coach then next year is an auto loss as well. Id scrap it for a year and rebuild. The great thing Lakers has is the ability to sign free agents, people want to play in LA. So get the picks and young players you can clear your salary and wait for a new crop of free agents and hopefully land a star in the draft. This team doesn't need tweaks it needs a makeover.

The disgusting results of the Lakers are the fault of both the players and the coach. However, I still think that Vogel has made a lot of controversial decisions throughout this season, and he has experimented too much with the starting lineup. As OgNasty said above, one of Vogel's mistakes is that he didn't use Howard's full potential while Davis was injured. It seems to me Howard could have been more productive and helpful to the team if Vogel had given him more minutes on the court.

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Quote from: Dave1 on April 08, 2022, 08:37:51 PM

^^ Well you can't blame someone who put some blame on Vogel. He is the anchor of the team so he has some liability as well as how the Lakers turn out to be this season.

I think this is one of Lebron's disappointing season as a player, too much hype and expectation on the team they build around him and Davis, but it sucks, lol. They are now back to the drawing board next season and maybe this will be his final run as a Laker.

I think Vogel should carry a lot of the blame. The minutes he was giving Dwight Howard made no sense all season. Benching Westbrook down the stretch to basically mentally torture the dude. Rob Pelinka should take some of the blame also. The Westbrook trade didn’t work out and the Nunn signing was a worst case scenario. LeBron had a great year. AD proved he can’t stay healthy. Carmelo did better than anyone thought he would. They just couldn’t get it together. Makes you think we should be sending the NBA champions to the Olympics instead of trying to throw a team together.

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on April 08, 2022, 07:53:40 PM

Everyone is blaming Vogel but I've been saying it from the start of the season they are too old. Vogel had to deal with a crazy amount of injuries, not cause of mistyped playing time just cause they are old. Give this garbage te to any coach and it will end up the same result. Not saying Vogel shoukd stay but if that's their move to get a new coach then next year is an auto loss as well.

I have to disagree with this. If this garbage will turn to any coach, some of them can at least make this team compete in the playoffs. Vogel is the one to blame for his incompetence and for not being able to fully utilize his players. Having old players is not the reason, to begin with. Vogel already handled old ones like Mcgee and was even had a chance to handle young players like Kuzma, Caruso, etc. but when these guys are playing during their time with the Lakers, Vogel sits them out mostly in the game. Look at how these players are being utilized on other teams since their respective coaches are giving them a chance to play more minutes.

As a coach, he needs to be the one that will inspire and give motivation to his players. Let's not make an excuse that Vogel had to deal with a crazy amount of injuries as look at the Warriors, their starters almost sit out half the season but still made it to no.2 on the standings.

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^^ Well you can't blame someone who put some blame on Vogel. He is the anchor of the team so he has some liability as well as how the Lakers turn out to be this season.

I think this is one of Lebron's disappointing season as a player, too much hype and expectation on the team they build around him and Davis, but it sucks, lol. They are now back to the drawing board next season and maybe this will be his final run as a Laker.

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Quote from: agustina2 on April 08, 2022, 06:11:10 PM

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The last thing the Lakers want is Wiggins for lebron. If they would ever get rid of lebron is for picks, they need a rebuild if they are dumping Bron. If that then AD goes to a contender with young talent to shed. Young talent deep draft picks and free agency splash and they will be back to looking forward. They need to do something, but Wiggins he'll nah. It would have to be kuminga or Wiseman and some draft picks.

Lakers are already rebuilding since the last years of Kobe but they failed. They should not dump Lebron as this team will get nowhere. The Lakers are a total dump before Lebron arrived. They just need to tweak some things like the failure of Vogel to distribute a good playing time to his players. When Lebron is not playing, look how bad they are.

Quote from: Distinctin on April 08, 2022, 03:54:56 PM

Lebron makes a lot of excuses, I thought he would be able to compete in this award but his team sucks, so he will just continue to achieve individual success while the impact on his team is not seen and felt.

Lebron did his best but his team really sucks. He is also not stat-padding as his usual average even before. Almost the entire of his teammates are not consistent. I can't say the reason is that they just allow Lebron to make players as to when he is not playing, they still trash even against a lower seed team.

Unfortunately that they didn't use Anthony Davis much this season because him being prone to injury. Kendrick Nunn also robbed them lol.

Everyone is blaming Vogel but I've been saying it from the start of the season they are too old. Vogel had to deal with a crazy amount of injuries, not cause of mistyped playing time just cause they are old. Give this garbage te to any coach and it will end up the same result. Not saying Vogel shoukd stay but if that's their move to get a new coach then next year is an auto loss as well. Id scrap it for a year and rebuild. The great thing Lakers has is the ability to sign free agents, people want to play in LA. So get the picks and young players you can clear your salary and wait for a new crop of free agents and hopefully land a star in the draft. This team doesn't need tweaks it needs a makeover.

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Quote from: arwin100 on April 08, 2022, 09:59:03 AM

Who knows things will be change when he is on nets especially if he get proper support to his teammates and his coaches then he will got huge confidence to shot more better than when he is on sixers, But I believe Nets will not get a problem in that area since they already have quality shooters on their team and most provably they need Simmons defensive presence and passing to make their team more better.

I doubt there will be a change of his shooting on Simmons part. No need to do that as what Nets like him to do is to play on his usual and within his comfort zone. Let the shooting does with his teammates and he just needs to focus on his preferred skill. It's impossible for me to think that he's not getting full support from his former team. Shooting might not just be his main skill but his driving to the hoop and defense skill is one of the best in the league.

He is a big contribution to the Nets team but we have to wait until next season before seeing him fully play as per the report, he won't play these playoffs/play-in for unknown reasons. These types of players really have to work on their pride management.

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Quote from: magneto on April 08, 2022, 05:09:39 PM

Especially as Maslate just mentioned, he broke a pretty nice record of 2k points, 1k rebounds and 500 assists. That literally has not been done before, so it would be a very difficult ask for anyone to vote Embiid over him.

Whatever records have been achieved, choosing this year's Season MVP will still depend on certain categories especially the percentage of votes on each factor. The impact that these players did on their team also does not plays a role that's why sometimes it's unfair.

The most deciding factor really depends on the overall stats that a player made throughout the season.

Few games remaining to add some to these nominees' stats. If Jokic will put up big numbers on their remaining games, he will maintain his 1st rank on the Weekly MVP race ladder.

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I'm looking forward to watching the playoffs now. There are only two games left for the regular season to end. It is sad for me also to see that Lakers are not in the playoffs. Lebron James must be really frustrated about the general performance of his team. And their performance recently has also been terrible. It was the decider for them to qualify for the playoffs or not. They lost too many games in a row and lost their chance as a result. Lebron wouldn't continue with the same starting five for sure.

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on April 08, 2022, 06:01:01 PM

The last thing the Lakers want is Wiggins for lebron. If they would ever get rid of lebron is for picks, they need a rebuild if they are dumping Bron. If that then AD goes to a contender with young talent to shed. Young talent deep draft picks and free agency splash and they will be back to looking forward. They need to do something, but Wiggins he'll nah. It would have to be kuminga or Wiseman and some draft picks.

Lakers are already rebuilding since the last years of Kobe but they failed. They should not dump Lebron as this team will get nowhere. The Lakers are a total dump before Lebron arrived. They just need to tweak some things like the failure of Vogel to distribute a good playing time to his players. When Lebron is not playing, look how bad they are.

Quote from: Distinctin on April 08, 2022, 03:54:56 PM

Lebron makes a lot of excuses, I thought he would be able to compete in this award but his team sucks, so he will just continue to achieve individual success while the impact on his team is not seen and felt.

Lebron did his best but his team really sucks. He is also not stat-padding as his usual average even before. Almost the entire of his teammates are not consistent. I can't say the reason is that they just allow Lebron to make players as to when he is not playing, they still trash even against a lower seed team.

Unfortunately that they didn't use Anthony Davis much this season because him being prone to injury. Kendrick Nunn also robbed them lol.

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Quote from: Captain Corporate on April 08, 2022, 03:21:25 PM

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LeBron hinted that he wanted to play with Stephen Curry, and Steph responded that he's good.

Imagine a world where Lakers get wiggins and some draft picks and whatever filler they can. In exchange for that Warriors get Lebron. I mean not only he is good enough even at that age, but dude would be the perfect player to play in that team. Just give him the ball, and watch him pile up assists like crazy. This isn't just lebron though, like rondo could do that even at this age, but his position is filled with curry, lebron is a great big that can pass, he could play the small ball line up as well. I mean this is just unreal for Warriors if it were to happen, would change the way a bit but could still be awesome for sure. Would love to watch that before he retires, dude could have like 12-13 assists per game avarages realistically and reach like 20 assists multiple times if he ever played there.

The last thing the Lakers want is Wiggins for lebron. If they would ever get rid of lebron is for picks, they need a rebuild if they are dumping Bron. If that then AD goes to a contender with young talent to shed. Young talent deep draft picks and free agency splash and they will be back to looking forward. They need to do something, but Wiggins he'll nah. It would have to be kuminga or Wiseman and some draft picks.

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Quote from: Distinctin on April 08, 2022, 03:54:56 PM

Quote from: Finestream on April 08, 2022, 03:23:31 PM

Embiid has Harden and Giannis has Middleton, so I think Joker has the edge because he has no Robin helping him to achieve the success.

That's a big difference, that's why he should win the finals MVP.

Lebron makes a lot of excuses, I thought he would be able to compete in this award but his team sucks, so he will just continue to achieve individual success while the impact on his team is not seen and felt.

I'm not sure if the betting line is still open now, but 1.31 odds for the Joker is still good to take.

I do agree with that, and it should be the deciding factor as to who will get it this year. Nevertheless, it's up to those who are going to vote and they might be swayed to vote against Jokic or at least give to someone this year, maybe Joel Embiid. But as far as the numbers and the impact to the team, Jokic stats can't be denied.

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Quote from: Distinctin on April 08, 2022, 03:54:56 PM

Quote from: Finestream on April 08, 2022, 03:23:31 PM

Embiid has Harden and Giannis has Middleton, so I think Joker has the edge because he has no Robin helping him to achieve the success.

That's a big difference, that's why he should win the finals MVP.

Lebron makes a lot of excuses, I thought he would be able to compete in this award but his team sucks, so he will just continue to achieve individual success while the impact on his team is not seen and felt.

I'm not sure if the betting line is still open now, but 1.31 odds for the Joker is still good to take.

Those are good odds for sure.

I think the narrative has entirely shifted as Jokic has had himself another amazing season. It is clear to me that he is going to win back-to-back MVPs.

Especially as Maslate just mentioned, he broke a pretty nice record of 2k points, 1k rebounds and 500 assists. That literally has not been done before, so it would be a very difficult ask for anyone to vote Embiid over him.

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I agree with @el kaka22.

Jokic might not have fancy moves but he is very effective on the floor.
His assists numbers are just great, I think no other big man in the NBA that are smart as Jokic in terms of finding his teammates.

Actually, he made history.

Nikola Jokic becomes 1st player in NBA history with 2,000 points, 1,000 rebounds and 500 assists in season

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