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August 15, 2024, 07:32:12 AM

Right, but they also lost Josh Green, Tim Hardaway Jr and Derrick Jones Jr. But they pick up some players including Klay Thompson and Spencer Dinwiddie. So still a solid line up for their next season and I would say that it was a upgrade with having the other part of the Splash brothers.

Still solid with the addition of Klay and Spencer which both can add decent numbers in terms of offense, though still too early to conclude if they upgrade or downgrade after the trade that happened to them.


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I would agree with Anthony Edwards, so much potential and I think he will lead the Wolves again this season. Just funny though that he did trash talk his team mate Rudy Gobert in the Olympics and then we thought that he will do a Kobe thing, wherein Bryant go to Pau Gasol's chest in their game to set the tone.

I personally think that he can't do it knowing Gobert's attitude hahaha, he might get choke if he'll do that with the big man knowing that he's in his country, unlike Pau which is a cool person and have a big respect with Kobe, Edward might not have that respect yet in terms of closeness with Gobert.

But I also do believe that this kid got something to offer for fans and critics this upcoming season, after that gold medal run in the olympics the pride to prove something agaisnt those superstars who you played with, Edward might have more trash in his mouth to prove when the new season begins.
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August 15, 2024, 03:26:53 AM
Doesn't look good though for Nuggets if they allow MPJ to be traded as for sure others see him as part of their core. So it's going to be a big risk on their end if they let go of him. They've already lost KCP and so they don't want another team member like MPJ as well.

I would say that his injuries might have slow him down, but the Nuggets are done last year, there were interview of KCP telling that the whole team is tired and they should have lost the series against the Lakers. But I think they will comeback strong next season and try to be a repeat champions.
I do not see how this could be any profitable for Nuggets at all. MPJ should not be traded away, for just getting Cam Johnson and Zaire Williams, that doesn't make sense at all. This should not be really an important thing for them because they are not going to get any higher benefit from this trade at all.

I understand that MPJ is not doing that awesome as expected from him but he isn't that bad neither, I feel like we should be considering that as something they need to keep it going as well. We can't be really considering the trade as something that Denver would never agree to that at all. We need to realize that this would only benefit Detroit Pistons, but at the same time Pistons are a team that is rebuilding so getting MPJ right now doesn't really matter to them at all.

We can't really expect much from them even with him, they will keep on losing so that will not matter too much in the end, we can't make any type of changes.
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August 14, 2024, 10:39:26 PM
^^ You forgot about Dallas, they have Luka and Kyrie and then they have added Klay in the wing. And we have seen that they have reached the Finals from last year. Although they might start low key again, just like what they did last season. But come playoff time we have seen the leadership of Luka to lead this team.

But I would love to see ANT, I think the hype is still with this kid. Very athletic and we have seen highlight reel dunk by him and so I would expect that he will continue and maybe improved and he could be running for the MVP awards if he continue what he had left from last season.

Right, but they also lost Josh Green, Tim Hardaway Jr and Derrick Jones Jr. But they pick up some players including Klay Thompson and Spencer Dinwiddie. So still a solid line up for their next season and I would say that it was a upgrade with having the other part of the Splash brothers.
Derrick Jones Jr is a big loss IMO but getting Klay Thompson is an A+ for the team, so it's even or Dallas even get an upgrade here
Josh Green and Tim Hardaway Jr. are not getting good minutes anymore, so it's just try that they were sent to the other teams so maybe they could improve their career. It's just that has change as a team ever since they acquired Daniel Gafford and PJ Washington, so they'll stick with that line up trying to improve it.

I would agree with Anthony Edwards, so much potential and I think he will lead the Wolves again this season. Just funny though that he did trash talk his team mate Rudy Gobert in the Olympics and then we thought that he will do a Kobe thing, wherein Bryant go to Pau Gasol's chest in their game to set the tone.
This guy have proven he is a superstar, but being a championship team, there's a lot of job to do, including making him more matured in handling situations for the benefit of the team.
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August 14, 2024, 08:40:20 PM
^^ You forgot about Dallas, they have Luka and Kyrie and then they have added Klay in the wing. And we have seen that they have reached the Finals from last year. Although they might start low key again, just like what they did last season. But come playoff time we have seen the leadership of Luka to lead this team.

But I would love to see ANT, I think the hype is still with this kid. Very athletic and we have seen highlight reel dunk by him and so I would expect that he will continue and maybe improved and he could be running for the MVP awards if he continue what he had left from last season.

Right, but they also lost Josh Green, Tim Hardaway Jr and Derrick Jones Jr. But they pick up some players including Klay Thompson and Spencer Dinwiddie. So still a solid line up for their next season and I would say that it was a upgrade with having the other part of the Splash brothers.

I would agree with Anthony Edwards, so much potential and I think he will lead the Wolves again this season. Just funny though that he did trash talk his team mate Rudy Gobert in the Olympics and then we thought that he will do a Kobe thing, wherein Bryant go to Pau Gasol's chest in their game to set the tone.
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August 14, 2024, 07:56:04 PM
^^ You forgot about Dallas, they have Luka and Kyrie and then they have added Klay in the wing. And we have seen that they have reached the Finals from last year. Although they might start low key again, just like what they did last season. But come playoff time we have seen the leadership of Luka to lead this team.

But I would love to see ANT, I think the hype is still with this kid. Very athletic and we have seen highlight reel dunk by him and so I would expect that he will continue and maybe improved and he could be running for the MVP awards if he continue what he had left from last season.
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August 14, 2024, 07:51:49 PM
I think the East is still owned by the 76ers & Bucks. If those teams are healthy then Boston has no chance of repeating. In the West, sure you have Dallas, but I think they got lucky beating the Timberwolves. All things being equal, I expect we’ll see the Bucks & Timberwolves in the finals this upcoming season, but I love being surprised.
Ooh, you already have your prediction while the season has not started yet. Nice!

For me, the West will be filled with surprises. Rockets could also be a threat but they need Sengun back and healthy. In the East, the Cavaliers are also a threat for the teams that you mentioned including the champion Boston Celtics. I have doubts about the Bucks as I think the Giannis and Dame duo do not match. I don't really like a team with two isolation players but who knows, they might build their own chemistry.

Champions could ease down and it happens mostly to any team because they already achieved what they wanted. I don't think the Celtics will get a back-to-back. I hope so, I love surprises too.

One surprise, the Warriors are not much in the discussions anymore unlike in the past years.

Warriors lost Klay already and so they are no longer in the discussions although they can still put a good fight for this season. But the West is totally different know, Wolves, Nuggets or even the Lakers could be the team in the West.

For the East, we still have the defending champion Boston, I know it's going to be very hard to become a repeat champion. But it seems that the core is still intact and so I would say that they are still going to be the favorite.
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August 14, 2024, 06:55:11 PM
I think the East is still owned by the 76ers & Bucks. If those teams are healthy then Boston has no chance of repeating. In the West, sure you have Dallas, but I think they got lucky beating the Timberwolves. All things being equal, I expect we’ll see the Bucks & Timberwolves in the finals this upcoming season, but I love being surprised.
Ooh, you already have your prediction while the season has not started yet. Nice!

For me, the West will be filled with surprises. Rockets could also be a threat but they need Sengun back and healthy. In the East, the Cavaliers are also a threat for the teams that you mentioned including the champion Boston Celtics. I have doubts about the Bucks as I think the Giannis and Dame duo do not match. I don't really like a team with two isolation players but who knows, they might build their own chemistry.

Champions could ease down and it happens mostly to any team because they already achieved what they wanted. I don't think the Celtics will get a back-to-back. I hope so, I love surprises too.

One surprise, the Warriors are not much in the discussions anymore unlike in the past years.
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August 14, 2024, 06:51:42 PM

I think the East is still owned by the 76ers & Bucks. If those teams are healthy then Boston has no chance of repeating.

Boston is a well balanced team and they are monster now that they have the confidence of a champion. They are still so strong even with healthy 76ers and Bucks based on regular season and previous years which they always dominate their division.

They are just always choking during finals before due to Tatum always having an issue but right now with Brown taking the lead Boston became a real monster team.

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In the West, sure you have Dallas, but I think they got lucky beating the Timberwolves. All things being equal, I expect we’ll see the Bucks & Timberwolves in the finals this upcoming season, but I love being surprised.

I still think the Nuggets can dominate the West if they will have change in roster especially on bench players. Wolves just barely win against them though.
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August 14, 2024, 06:14:56 PM
Yeah, Denver Nuggets is still one of the contenders in the league. I just can remember them from being non contender and being ignored in the league but when they have won their first chip, until now they're still considered to be one of the best as long as Murray, Gordon, and Jokic are there.

And getting some help from the likes of MPJ.

I wish MPJ recovery.
While I truly think Jokic is a dominant player in the league who can score at will and always looks to get his teammates involved in the game, I think Denver is no longer 1 of the top teams in the West. A lot is still going to depend on the rest of the off season, but I like Dallas, Minnesota, and I look for the Kings to all come out hot in the upcoming season.

Denver will be in the playoffs, but I don't feel like the road to the Finals leads through them.
I agree with what you feel about the Denver Nuggets, after one season, they still are good to reach the playoffs and having Jokic still on their wing can still do such.

I also are looking for Timberwolves and Dallas. Both did great this past season and with Klay with Luka and Kyrie, I wonder how they're going to play. But as assumptions with Luka + Kyrie before, many didn't believe it but they've proven everyone wrong so I am optimistic with this trio.

I think the East is still owned by the 76ers & Bucks. If those teams are healthy then Boston has no chance of repeating. In the West, sure you have Dallas, but I think they got lucky beating the Timberwolves. All things being equal, I expect we’ll see the Bucks & Timberwolves in the finals this upcoming season, but I love being surprised.
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August 14, 2024, 06:03:36 PM
Yeah, Denver Nuggets is still one of the contenders in the league. I just can remember them from being non contender and being ignored in the league but when they have won their first chip, until now they're still considered to be one of the best as long as Murray, Gordon, and Jokic are there.

And getting some help from the likes of MPJ.

I wish MPJ recovery.
While I truly think Jokic is a dominant player in the league who can score at will and always looks to get his teammates involved in the game, I think Denver is no longer 1 of the top teams in the West. A lot is still going to depend on the rest of the off season, but I like Dallas, Minnesota, and I look for the Kings to all come out hot in the upcoming season.

Denver will be in the playoffs, but I don't feel like the road to the Finals leads through them.
I agree with what you feel about the Denver Nuggets, after one season, they still are good to reach the playoffs and having Jokic still on their wing can still do such.

I also are looking for Timberwolves and Dallas. Both did great this past season and with Klay with Luka and Kyrie, I wonder how they're going to play. But as assumptions with Luka + Kyrie before, many didn't believe it but they've proven everyone wrong so I am optimistic with this trio.
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August 14, 2024, 05:46:07 PM
Michael Porter Jr is extremely underrated. If it wasn’t for injuries he’d probably be a top 5 player in the league. The combination of him and Aaron Gordon on the wings is what makes the Nuggets a special team. If you take one of them away, the Nuggets are done as contenders. That’s what I think. No way is trading either Porter or Gordon a good idea.
I agree.

MPJ is actually a good part of the Nuggets and just remember on how they've taken the last season. They always had it and MPJ helped the team through their journey.

I think if there are superstars and starting players for each team, he's part of it. But if that's what the Denver Nuggets team think and mostly the coaching staff that they have to let go of him, they're going to have another adjustment with Jokic and Gordon.

Yeah, I would say that he is underrated, and prior to his injury, he has a good shooting form and so his percentage is high. But suddenly we see him struggle and we don't know what happen to him until he official says that he had a injury and if I'm not mistaken it was his back that really affected his form.

But I think the Nuggets is still one of the contender, their core is still intact, they might have to adjust. They still one of the best duo in Jokic and Murray (behind Brown and Tatum). So still very competitive Western Conference with them as one of the favorites.
Yeah, Denver Nuggets is still one of the contenders in the league. I just can remember them from being non contender and being ignored in the league but when they have won their first chip, until now they're still considered to be one of the best as long as Murray, Gordon, and Jokic are there.

And getting some help from the likes of MPJ.

I wish MPJ recovery.
While I truly think Jokic is a dominant player in the league who can score at will and always looks to get his teammates involved in the game, I think Denver is no longer 1 of the top teams in the West. A lot is still going to depend on the rest of the off season, but I like Dallas, Minnesota, and I look for the Kings to all come out hot in the upcoming season.

Denver will be in the playoffs, but I don't feel like the road to the Finals leads through them.
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August 14, 2024, 04:47:10 PM
Michael Porter Jr is extremely underrated. If it wasn’t for injuries he’d probably be a top 5 player in the league. The combination of him and Aaron Gordon on the wings is what makes the Nuggets a special team. If you take one of them away, the Nuggets are done as contenders. That’s what I think. No way is trading either Porter or Gordon a good idea.
I agree.

MPJ is actually a good part of the Nuggets and just remember on how they've taken the last season. They always had it and MPJ helped the team through their journey.

I think if there are superstars and starting players for each team, he's part of it. But if that's what the Denver Nuggets team think and mostly the coaching staff that they have to let go of him, they're going to have another adjustment with Jokic and Gordon.

Yeah, I would say that he is underrated, and prior to his injury, he has a good shooting form and so his percentage is high. But suddenly we see him struggle and we don't know what happen to him until he official says that he had a injury and if I'm not mistaken it was his back that really affected his form.

But I think the Nuggets is still one of the contender, their core is still intact, they might have to adjust. They still one of the best duo in Jokic and Murray (behind Brown and Tatum). So still very competitive Western Conference with them as one of the favorites.
Yeah, Denver Nuggets is still one of the contenders in the league. I just can remember them from being non contender and being ignored in the league but when they have won their first chip, until now they're still considered to be one of the best as long as Murray, Gordon, and Jokic are there.

And getting some help from the likes of MPJ.

I wish MPJ recovery.
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August 14, 2024, 02:34:02 PM
I don't like it either. Building chemistry is a difficult thing in the NBA and Murray, MPJ, and Jokic had been doing great. They don't really need to trade those three. What they need is some good roleplayers and decent bench players so that they can keep up even if Murray and Jokic are benched to rest.

Since Jokic is one of the best players in the league, it's obvious the Nuggets won't trade him, and he'll probably be in a Nuggets uniform for the rest of his career. What can't be said about Murray and MPJ.
Overall, I agree with you that the Nuggets should improve the roster, but they should do it in a way that doesn't disrupt the current team chemistry.
As long as Murray and Jokic, who are the heart and soul of the team, are there, I think they'll be able to build a great team. Actually, the Nuggets weren't a championship team before the arrival of Gordon, so I'm fine with seeing MPJ go as long as the big three (Jokic, Murray, and Gordon) remain intact. A team needs to improve because they fell short last season, and with a healthy Jokic, they need to make some changes to be more than ready for next season. As for the decisions of the management or the coach, we should leave that to them, as they know better than us.
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August 14, 2024, 02:28:38 PM
I don't like it either. Building chemistry is a difficult thing in the NBA and Murray, MPJ, and Jokic had been doing great. They don't really need to trade those three. What they need is some good roleplayers and decent bench players so that they can keep up even if Murray and Jokic are benched to rest.

Since Jokic is one of the best players in the league, it's obvious the Nuggets won't trade him, and he'll probably be in a Nuggets uniform for the rest of his career. What can't be said about Murray and MPJ.
Overall, I agree with you that the Nuggets should improve the roster, but they should do it in a way that doesn't disrupt the current team chemistry.
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August 14, 2024, 01:41:14 PM
Doesn't look good though for Nuggets if they allow MPJ to be traded as for sure others see him as part of their core. So it's going to be a big risk on their end if they let go of him. They've already lost KCP and so they don't want another team member like MPJ as well.

I would say that his injuries might have slow him down, but the Nuggets are done last year, there were interview of KCP telling that the whole team is tired and they should have lost the series against the Lakers. But I think they will comeback strong next season and try to be a repeat champions.
I don't like it either. Building chemistry is a difficult thing in the NBA and Murray, MPJ, and Jokic had been doing great. They don't really need to trade those three. What they need is some good roleplayers and decent bench players so that they can keep up even if Murray and Jokic are benched to rest.

They already won a championship with a healthy trio and Gordon is part of that which had been phenomenal on his inside defense and offense. But it's always as soon as Jokic goes out, the problem does surface because they are all leaning to his production in both points and assists.
They need a good forward or a center because they have shooters. Or maybe someone who will focus on defense just like what KCP had been doing.

They already tested those guys and what they need is more solid players around them.

If Nuggets could find reliable guys which is playing to adapt on the role given by the management then provably that they can facilitate well and might have best result next season.

They need to add more players which could help them on rebounding also defense and if they could able to get a player like that provably Nuggets will became more stronger next season. Although we can say that their current roster still a solid one but still they need a good help to get more advantage on their opponents.

Did I miss something, where did Denver put MPJ on the trade block?  The only reason they would at this point would be due to some salary cap issues they have in the near future.  No way they try breaking this down while jokic is in his prime, same with Murray.  There is such a small window in this league you have to push for a couple years while ypu have the players to do it.  Is there an article link to this?

I don’t think Denver would consider trading Michael Porter Jr. Like I said before, he’s a huge piece of their team and a big part of the reason why they’ve had so much success. His injury led to them getting Gordon and when he recovered they were a beast of a team at the wings. As far as I know, this is being discussed because of a trade idea in the media, not any actual interest from Denver.
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August 14, 2024, 06:34:52 AM
Doesn't look good though for Nuggets if they allow MPJ to be traded as for sure others see him as part of their core. So it's going to be a big risk on their end if they let go of him. They've already lost KCP and so they don't want another team member like MPJ as well.

I would say that his injuries might have slow him down, but the Nuggets are done last year, there were interview of KCP telling that the whole team is tired and they should have lost the series against the Lakers. But I think they will comeback strong next season and try to be a repeat champions.
I don't like it either. Building chemistry is a difficult thing in the NBA and Murray, MPJ, and Jokic had been doing great. They don't really need to trade those three. What they need is some good roleplayers and decent bench players so that they can keep up even if Murray and Jokic are benched to rest.

They already won a championship with a healthy trio and Gordon is part of that which had been phenomenal on his inside defense and offense. But it's always as soon as Jokic goes out, the problem does surface because they are all leaning to his production in both points and assists.
They need a good forward or a center because they have shooters. Or maybe someone who will focus on defense just like what KCP had been doing.

They already tested those guys and what they need is more solid players around them.

If Nuggets could find reliable guys which is playing to adapt on the role given by the management then provably that they can facilitate well and might have best result next season.

They need to add more players which could help them on rebounding also defense and if they could able to get a player like that provably Nuggets will became more stronger next season. Although we can say that their current roster still a solid one but still they need a good help to get more advantage on their opponents.

Did I miss something, where did Denver put MPJ on the trade block?  The only reason they would at this point would be due to some salary cap issues they have in the near future.  No way they try breaking this down while jokic is in his prime, same with Murray.  There is such a small window in this league you have to push for a couple years while ypu have the players to do it.  Is there an article link to this?
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August 14, 2024, 05:26:22 AM
Doesn't look good though for Nuggets if they allow MPJ to be traded as for sure others see him as part of their core. So it's going to be a big risk on their end if they let go of him. They've already lost KCP and so they don't want another team member like MPJ as well.

I would say that his injuries might have slow him down, but the Nuggets are done last year, there were interview of KCP telling that the whole team is tired and they should have lost the series against the Lakers. But I think they will comeback strong next season and try to be a repeat champions.
I don't like it either. Building chemistry is a difficult thing in the NBA and Murray, MPJ, and Jokic had been doing great. They don't really need to trade those three. What they need is some good roleplayers and decent bench players so that they can keep up even if Murray and Jokic are benched to rest.

They already won a championship with a healthy trio and Gordon is part of that which had been phenomenal on his inside defense and offense. But it's always as soon as Jokic goes out, the problem does surface because they are all leaning to his production in both points and assists.
They need a good forward or a center because they have shooters. Or maybe someone who will focus on defense just like what KCP had been doing.

They already tested those guys and what they need is more solid players around them.

If Nuggets could find reliable guys which is playing to adapt on the role given by the management then provably that they can facilitate well and might have best result next season.

They need to add more players which could help them on rebounding also defense and if they could able to get a player like that provably Nuggets will became more stronger next season. Although we can say that their current roster still a solid one but still they need a good help to get more advantage on their opponents.
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August 14, 2024, 04:26:30 AM
There's really no good movement yet. They added more players in exchange for DeRozan but it didn't actually make the team better. I am actually shocked that it's DeRozan that they traded instead of someone else. Like the face of the Bulls now. Cheesy
Here is the sadder part of the Bulls' status. There are no rumors about any trades, sign-ins, or whatever. I guess they are sticking with what they have now and they will probably be aggressive when the season starts until the trade deadline.
I think we will just have to be patient about their next movements but I doubt it will be big since most superstars are now signed with other teams.
That will definitely be something that will take a bit more than a year, we are not going to see them do that well right away. There is a joke about how Bulls signed a contract with the devil to get the 90's and now they are paying their debt with all of this. Since the whole Derrick Rose knee injury, they haven't been good for a long time and whenever they get anyone they end up being injured and go.

Last time they were great, they had a great Lavine, Lonzo and also Derozan, they looked amazing with that team and then of course everything went south. I hope that they will figure out how to rebuild the team without hurting it too much, we have to really realize that we can't really make it change all that much in a single summer, but in a few summers they can be good.

At this point, I would say eat up bad contracts from other teams and get picks, that way they can have some bad players during rebuilding and they will gain picks and when those bad contracts ends, they will have picks and rebuild properly.
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August 14, 2024, 02:44:44 AM
Doesn't look good though for Nuggets if they allow MPJ to be traded as for sure others see him as part of their core. So it's going to be a big risk on their end if they let go of him. They've already lost KCP and so they don't want another team member like MPJ as well.

I would say that his injuries might have slow him down, but the Nuggets are done last year, there were interview of KCP telling that the whole team is tired and they should have lost the series against the Lakers. But I think they will comeback strong next season and try to be a repeat champions.
I don't like it either. Building chemistry is a difficult thing in the NBA and Murray, MPJ, and Jokic had been doing great. They don't really need to trade those three. What they need is some good roleplayers and decent bench players so that they can keep up even if Murray and Jokic are benched to rest.

They already won a championship with a healthy trio and Gordon is part of that which had been phenomenal on his inside defense and offense. But it's always as soon as Jokic goes out, the problem does surface because they are all leaning to his production in both points and assists.
They need a good forward or a center because they have shooters. Or maybe someone who will focus on defense just like what KCP had been doing.
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August 13, 2024, 10:16:23 PM
I like this to happen.....

NBA Trade Idea Sends $179M Denver Nuggets Star to Detroit Pistons

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In a new hypothetical trade idea from Bleacher Report's Greg Swartz, Denver shakes up their starting lineup with a three-team deal including the Detroit Pistons and Brooklyn Nets. The hypothetical trade has a lot of moving pieces:

Denver Nuggets Receive: Cam Johnson and Ziaire Williams

Detroit Pistons Receive: Michael Porter Jr.

Brooklyn Nets Receive: Isaiah Stewart, Tim Hardaway Jr., 2025 second-round pick (via Toronto Raptors, and a 2027 second-round pick (via Detroit Pistons)

I guess MPJ not really a championship material although he already won a championship with the Nuggets. If the Nuggets could move him through trade, they could acquire more players that could play both the 3 point shooting and the defense. Cameron Johnson alone could already provide what MPJ can, so that other player is just an extra.

The trade scenario is somehow good since it will make Nuggets to breath on the huge contract they give to MPJ. But the question is do they able could gamble to risk their current situation to try those new guys then build up their team again? Maybe for now they would not accept that offer since MPJ is role is so vital on Nuggets rotation. Maybe in upcoming season they would think about it and monitor the stats to be provided by MPJ if Nuggets management will not be satisfied on their monitoring then maybe they might consider to accept such deal and get other more player that could possibly help their  team to win another championship again.

This trade idea they suggest is really good and for sure that Nuggets would benefit more here https://www.si.com/nba/nuggets/news/nba-trade-idea-sends-179m-denver-nuggets-star-to-detroit-pistons-01j546t3vz9q

Doesn't look good though for Nuggets if they allow MPJ to be traded as for sure others see him as part of their core. So it's going to be a big risk on their end if they let go of him. They've already lost KCP and so they don't want another team member like MPJ as well.

I would say that his injuries might have slow him down, but the Nuggets are done last year, there were interview of KCP telling that the whole team is tired and they should have lost the series against the Lakers. But I think they will comeback strong next season and try to be a repeat champions.
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