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Quote from: Oasisman on October 10, 2021, 06:58:17 AM

Quote from: Baofeng on October 10, 2021, 06:25:53 AM

maybe we will see Russ and Lebron together in the game or Russ coming off the bench to lead the second team.

And I agree that Vogel is good as making adjustments and rotating his player. Maybe what we missed is Javale during the championship run, but hey we have DeAndre to cover that up as we might see him showing old glimpse of his dunking prowess when he was still with the lob City.

The Lakers already has their potential starter, I'm not quite sure If they have changed of mind.
PG : Russ
SG : Ellington
SF: Ariza
PF : LeBron
C : AD
Though this starting five looks like not everyone is expected, and I don't want to see AD to play at the Center position. I mean he's so fragile, he might get injured in a couple of games.
Well, let's see this could work If AD remains healthy. Ariza is a good addition to play additional defense and Ellington for additional offense.

Maybe this is what coach Frank wants, a super fast starting five with AD at the centre. For sure they are going to run with WB as PG, all of them have the potential to run with WB including AD. So it make sense for AD to be the starting centre.

Let's not talk about him being injured as a centre, injuries is unavoidable in any sport, even if he plays PF he still has the same chance if we are talking about injuries in the league.

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Quote from: stadus on October 10, 2021, 04:37:08 PM

Lebron can also play as Center though, but you are right, Davis should not be in the Center position anymore, they have legit big guys who are healthy this season, Jordan and Howard are both dominant big men, besides, it's not necessary that big man will score, with the big 3 of the Lakers (WB, Lebron, and Davis), it's already enough for them to win against any team with the condition that they should remain healthy.

That's the best thing to do but as far as Coach Vogel's lineup is concerned, he's not relying too much on big men. Since he handled the Los Angeles Lakers, his routine operation was mostly composed of Forwards to Power Forwards since LBJ can be a Point Guard. It makes it easy for him to adjust lineups because LeBron almost can handle all the positions. Back when Howard was there in the NBA bubble, he hasn't used much. DeAndre Jordan is also not seeing having good minutes even back when he first traded from the Los Angeles Clippers.

About Anthony Davis, it's already confirmed by him that he will play as a Center and he's prepared for that. But of course, we can expect it will be changed along the way depends on the situation.

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Quote from: DanWalker on October 10, 2021, 01:44:41 PM

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Quote from: Reid on October 10, 2021, 08:58:45 AM

I think they'll change it. Preserving the energy of Davis will be a factor to win each game.
Move him to the forward position since they have 2 big men in their roster. Howard and DeAndre Jordan.
All they need is to rotate the SG and SF position, Lebron, THT, Ariza, Ellington looking for a combination that would best spread the floor.
Davis cannot run both the offensive and defensive end or he will get exhausted and will take more rest on the bench than to play.
If I am Frank Vogel I would maximize the strength of my bench players as much as possible.

With that so many combinations that Coach Vogel has, changes in starters are more likely possible.
Davis should not play as Center, they already have Howard and if you noticed good changes from his game, Lakers should use him more now.
They've got LeBron, Russ and Melo who can play alternatively. I would like to see more from Rondo instead of letting Nunn to bring the ball,
the kid had a talent but experienced, wise Rondo still a better choice for that position.

Davis would be a key player from them and needs to be played very carefully as he is very injury prone as @Balik said. Maybe WB, Monk, and Rondo can be rotated for the PG position and as you said, playing Davis as a Center is not a good idea as they have 2 huge guys for that position (Jordan and Howard), Lebron can be rotated from PF and SF position depending on if Davis is on the bench or not and maybe Carmelo Anthony can also play a good part in the rotations as he can be played as both PF and SF and maybe SG if needed.

Lebron can also play as Center though, but you are right, Davis should not be in the Center position anymore, they have legit big guys who are healthy this season, Jordan and Howard are both dominant big men, besides, it's not necessary that big man will score, with the big 3 of the Lakers (WB, Lebron, and Davis), it's already enough for them to win against any team with the condition that they should remain healthy.

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Quote from: carlisle1 on October 10, 2021, 10:19:31 AM

Quote from: Reid on October 10, 2021, 08:58:45 AM

I think they'll change it. Preserving the energy of Davis will be a factor to win each game.
Move him to the forward position since they have 2 big men in their roster. Howard and DeAndre Jordan.
All they need is to rotate the SG and SF position, Lebron, THT, Ariza, Ellington looking for a combination that would best spread the floor.
Davis cannot run both the offensive and defensive end or he will get exhausted and will take more rest on the bench than to play.
If I am Frank Vogel I would maximize the strength of my bench players as much as possible.

With that so many combinations that Coach Vogel has, changes in starters are more likely possible.
Davis should not play as Center, they already have Howard and if you noticed good changes from his game, Lakers should use him more now.
They've got LeBron, Russ and Melo who can play alternatively. I would like to see more from Rondo instead of letting Nunn to bring the ball,
the kid had a talent but experienced, wise Rondo still a better choice for that position.

Davis would be a key player from them and needs to be played very carefully as he is very injury prone as @Balik said. Maybe WB, Monk, and Rondo can be rotated for the PG position and as you said, playing Davis as a Center is not a good idea as they have 2 huge guys for that position (Jordan and Howard), Lebron can be rotated from PF and SF position depending on if Davis is on the bench or not and maybe Carmelo Anthony can also play a good part in the rotations as he can be played as both PF and SF and maybe SG if needed.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on October 10, 2021, 08:31:43 AM

Quote from: Maslate on October 10, 2021, 07:07:47 AM

This time, the Lakers can't afford to see Davis get injured again, they know the effect of that.

Every team that Davis played suffers when he gets injured, it's a gamble for the Lakers to sign Davis but there's nothing to prove anymore about his worth because he has already delivered a championship for the Lakers that Lebron can't do it himself. It's Davis' 3rd season with the Lakers, and they are once again aiming to win back the championship and to make the chance higher, they added more veteran players and the biggest addition is Russell Westbrook.

Davis has been a player who is very injury-prone throughout his entire career which is kind of sad. A very talented player like him being this much injury prone is very sad, to be honest. So the coach needs to play him very carefully and utilize every minute from him. He needs to be rotated regularly otherwise he will get injured again. I just hope that Davis can hold onto his form and doesn't get injured again.

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Quote from: Reid on October 10, 2021, 08:58:45 AM

I think they'll change it. Preserving the energy of Davis will be a factor to win each game.
Move him to the forward position since they have 2 big men in their roster. Howard and DeAndre Jordan.
All they need is to rotate the SG and SF position, Lebron, THT, Ariza, Ellington looking for a combination that would best spread the floor.
Davis cannot run both the offensive and defensive end or he will get exhausted and will take more rest on the bench than to play.
If I am Frank Vogel I would maximize the strength of my bench players as much as possible.

With that so many combinations that Coach Vogel has, changes in starters are more likely possible.

Davis should not play as Center, they already have Howard and if you noticed good changes from his game, Lakers should use him more now.

They've got LeBron, Russ and Melo who can play alternatively. I would like to see more from Rondo instead of letting Nunn to bring the ball,

the kid had a talent but experienced, wise Rondo still a better choice for that position.

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Quote from: Oasisman on October 10, 2021, 06:58:17 AM

The Lakers already has their potential starter, I'm not quite sure If they have changed of mind.
PG : Russ
SG : Ellington
SF: Ariza
PF : LeBron
C : AD
Though this starting five looks like not everyone is expected, and I don't want to see AD to play at the Center position. I mean he's so fragile, he might get injured in a couple of games.
Well, let's see this could work If AD remains healthy. Ariza is a good addition to play additional defense and Ellington for additional offense.

I think they'll change it. Preserving the energy of Davis will be a factor to win each game.
Move him to the forward position since they have 2 big men in their roster. Howard and DeAndre Jordan.
All they need is to rotate the SG and SF position, Lebron, THT, Ariza, Ellington looking for a combination that would best spread the floor.
Davis cannot run both the offensive and defensive end or he will get exhausted and will take more rest on the bench than to play.
If I am Frank Vogel I would maximize the strength of my bench players as much as possible.

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Quote from: Maslate on October 10, 2021, 07:07:47 AM

This time, the Lakers can't afford to see Davis get injured again, they know the effect of that.

Every team that Davis played suffers when he gets injured, it's a gamble for the Lakers to sign Davis but there's nothing to prove anymore about his worth because he has already delivered a championship for the Lakers that Lebron can't do it himself. It's Davis' 3rd season with the Lakers, and they are once again aiming to win back the championship and to make the chance higher, they added more veteran players and the biggest addition is Russell Westbrook.

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Quote from: Oasisman on October 10, 2021, 06:58:17 AM

Quote from: Baofeng on October 10, 2021, 06:25:53 AM

maybe we will see Russ and Lebron together in the game or Russ coming off the bench to lead the second team.

And I agree that Vogel is good as making adjustments and rotating his player. Maybe what we missed is Javale during the championship run, but hey we have DeAndre to cover that up as we might see him showing old glimpse of his dunking prowess when he was still with the lob City.

The Lakers already has their potential starter, I'm not quite sure If they have changed of mind.
PG : Russ
SG : Ellington
SF: Ariza
PF : LeBron
C : AD
Though this starting five looks like not everyone is expected, and I don't want to see AD to play at the Center position. I mean he's so fragile, he might get injured in a couple of games.
Well, let's see this could work If AD remains healthy. Ariza is a good addition to play additional defense and Ellington for additional offense.

Same here, I like him to score more and not be forced to take the rebound because he is the center. I guess you can replace him with Dwight Howard as the starter and give AD another position, and I guess it will not affect the speed of the team but they will be more defensive at the same time as well.

This time, the Lakers can't afford to see Davis get injured again, they know the effect of that.

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Quote from: Baofeng on October 10, 2021, 06:25:53 AM

maybe we will see Russ and Lebron together in the game or Russ coming off the bench to lead the second team.

And I agree that Vogel is good as making adjustments and rotating his player. Maybe what we missed is Javale during the championship run, but hey we have DeAndre to cover that up as we might see him showing old glimpse of his dunking prowess when he was still with the lob City.

The Lakers already has their potential starter, I'm not quite sure If they have changed of mind.
PG : Russ
SG : Ellington
SF: Ariza
PF : LeBron
C : AD
Though this starting five looks like not everyone is expected, and I don't want to see AD to play at the Center position. I mean he's so fragile, he might get injured in a couple of games.
Well, let's see this could work If AD remains healthy. Ariza is a good addition to play additional defense and Ellington for additional offense.

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Quote from: Baofeng on October 10, 2021, 06:25:53 AM

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Quote from: boyptc on October 10, 2021, 02:03:48 AM

New offensive style as the king Lebron says. What do you say guys if they are now with Westbrook?

--> https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/lebron-james-says-lakers-have-a-whole-new-offensive-system-as-they-integrate-russell-westbrook-newcomers/

IIRC, I had said it once here. They don't need to focus on defense anymore because they have their players back when they won the championship and they added more power to that defensive line with DeAndre Jordan and Rus. You can't mess with these players when their in front of you.
Dwight and Rondo on the other hand will just have to re-enact what they did when they won a championship or make it better.

Offense should be the focus. What's the role of Rus? Will he be on the 2nd team as a lead playmaker or will they let him join Lebron on the floor.
I guess we will just see once the season starts. Frank Vogel is also known for being a good coach to rotate players and look for chemistry so it would be a big challenge for him.

Yes, maybe we will see Russ and Lebron together in the game or Russ coming off the bench to lead the second team.

And I agree that Vogel is good as making adjustments and rotating his player. Maybe what we missed is Javale during the championship run, but hey we have DeAndre to cover that up as we might see him showing old glimpse of his dunking prowess when he was still with the lob City.

Honestly, I don't expect much from DeAndre Jordan, he wasn't that effective with the Nets, so I don't think he will be effective with the Lakers uniform. Howard is really a big steal here as he can defend any centers in the league, not only defend but he can also frustrate them with his very physical style of defense and that's what the Lakers missed last season.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on October 10, 2021, 04:02:56 AM

Quote from: boyptc on October 10, 2021, 02:03:48 AM

New offensive style as the king Lebron says. What do you say guys if they are now with Westbrook?

--> https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/lebron-james-says-lakers-have-a-whole-new-offensive-system-as-they-integrate-russell-westbrook-newcomers/

IIRC, I had said it once here. They don't need to focus on defense anymore because they have their players back when they won the championship and they added more power to that defensive line with DeAndre Jordan and Rus. You can't mess with these players when their in front of you.
Dwight and Rondo on the other hand will just have to re-enact what they did when they won a championship or make it better.

Offense should be the focus. What's the role of Rus? Will he be on the 2nd team as a lead playmaker or will they let him join Lebron on the floor.
I guess we will just see once the season starts. Frank Vogel is also known for being a good coach to rotate players and look for chemistry so it would be a big challenge for him.

Yes, maybe we will see Russ and Lebron together in the game or Russ coming off the bench to lead the second team.

And I agree that Vogel is good as making adjustments and rotating his player. Maybe what we missed is Javale during the championship run, but hey we have DeAndre to cover that up as we might see him showing old glimpse of his dunking prowess when he was still with the lob City.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on October 10, 2021, 04:02:56 AM

Quote from: boyptc on October 10, 2021, 02:03:48 AM

New offensive style as the king Lebron says. What do you say guys if they are now with Westbrook?

--> https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/lebron-james-says-lakers-have-a-whole-new-offensive-system-as-they-integrate-russell-westbrook-newcomers/

IIRC, I had said it once here. They don't need to focus on defense anymore because they have their players back when they won the championship and they added more power to that defensive line with DeAndre Jordan and Rus. You can't mess with these players when their in front of you.
Dwight and Rondo on the other hand will just have to re-enact what they did when they won a championship or make it better.

Offense should be the focus. What's the role of Rus? Will he be on the 2nd team as a lead playmaker or will they let him join Lebron on the floor.
I guess we will just see once the season starts. Frank Vogel is also known for being a good coach to rotate players and look for chemistry so it would be a big challenge for him.

I don't think he will be in the 2nd team or the reserved, the Lakers should make him start and let Rondo lead the 2nd lineup. They have a lot of talent actually, this is a team that would dominate a team that is lacking star players and could match the Nets and defeats the defending champion in case the Nets will again fail this season.

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Quote from: boyptc on October 10, 2021, 02:03:48 AM

New offensive style as the king Lebron says. What do you say guys if they are now with Westbrook?

--> https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/lebron-james-says-lakers-have-a-whole-new-offensive-system-as-they-integrate-russell-westbrook-newcomers/

IIRC, I had said it once here. They don't need to focus on defense anymore because they have their players back when they won the championship and they added more power to that defensive line with DeAndre Jordan and Rus. You can't mess with these players when their in front of you.
Dwight and Rondo on the other hand will just have to re-enact what they did when they won a championship or make it better.

Offense should be the focus. What's the role of Rus? Will he be on the 2nd team as a lead playmaker or will they let him join Lebron on the floor.
I guess we will just see once the season starts. Frank Vogel is also known for being a good coach to rotate players and look for chemistry so it would be a big challenge for him.

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on October 10, 2021, 02:33:58 AM

Quote from: boyptc on October 10, 2021, 02:03:48 AM

New offensive style as the king Lebron says. What do you say guys if they are now with Westbrook?

--> https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/lebron-james-says-lakers-have-a-whole-new-offensive-system-as-they-integrate-russell-westbrook-newcomers/

Perhaps it is going to be a running game since Russ loves to go for a fast break and give us highlights dunk. Probably Russ on the middle and then James and someone on the wing and then assists coming from WB.

So there's no second guessing, we have seen how WB turn the Washington Wizards last year with this kind of play and this could be very effective for Lakers as they have a lot of wing man.

Yeah, most of their plays are likely going to be in a fast transition. They're good at it so that's probably the hint that Lebron is giving us.

I like those quick transitions and fast breaks, it's the usual plays that gives us thrilling and makes me cheer them more.

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Quote from: boyptc on October 10, 2021, 02:03:48 AM

New offensive style as the king Lebron says. What do you say guys if they are now with Westbrook?

--> https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/lebron-james-says-lakers-have-a-whole-new-offensive-system-as-they-integrate-russell-westbrook-newcomers/

Perhaps it is going to be a running game since Russ loves to go for a fast break and give us highlights dunk. Probably Russ on the middle and then James and someone on the wing and then assists coming from WB.

So there's no second guessing, we have seen how WB turn the Washington Wizards last year with this kind of play and this could be very effective for Lakers as they have a lot of wing man.

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New offensive style as the king Lebron says. What do you say guys if they are now with Westbrook?

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Quote from: qwertyup23 on October 09, 2021, 08:45:46 PM

Upon watching the game of GSW vs Lakers, the Warrior's bench is just too deep. Since they are too focus on the offensive 3-point threat of Curry on the court, he intentionally runs on the court looking for quick and easy 2s while leaving the other Warriors open for 3s. Jordan Poole has shown significant improvement over the last seasons and on that game, he stepped up and showed on what he is capable of.

Lakers still have to find their chemistry around the court. Without a doubt, as individual players, they are gifted with the likes of Westbrook, Carmelo, Bazemore, James, but they have yet to fix their ball movement and team chemistry.

Jordan Poole has really gain a lot of confidence playing with Steph and the Warriors last season. And now it translate to the court as he can be the kid splash. And he can give easy 20 ppg, and when Klay is back, the Warriors are going to be great again. So I'm just surprised by the sudden improvement of Poole, he is a quick learner in the GSW offense and together with Wiggins, they are really a dangerous team in the West. Might not be the same when they used to dominant the games years ago, but they are close to it right now if Klay will be back in the line-up.

Poole uses his cheat mode, playing like that when Klay is already playing is something more interesting and exciting to watch.

We are seeing the old GSW (KD-less) that kind of ball movement and the threat everywhere since Steph is not always keeping the ball.
They are all moving and finding the right spot before taking much higher percentage shots.

Just imagine if Klay and Wiggins are also playing at the same level where all the players inside can really hit you both in the arc and in the open jump shots.

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Quote from: dwyane36 on October 09, 2021, 05:19:15 PM

Simmons was offended by the coach, teammates, team management, and especially by fans. I guess these are the main reasons why he probably hates everything about Philadelphia. Anyway, the 76ers should find a replacement for him if they want to fight for the title this season.

This is kinda hard for him especially when all of the people on social media are against you. Even though you don't really care what's negative things they're saying about you, sometimes when you are in your worst moment those comments will hurt you even more. I think haters should know when to stop when things are not going well for someone because Ben Simmons and the other NBA players are human too. They take some pain like every one of us does. No heart will be able to take a lot of pain at the same time a lot of pressure.

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Quote from: qwertyup23 on October 09, 2021, 08:45:46 PM

Upon watching the game of GSW vs Lakers, the Warrior's bench is just too deep. Since they are too focus on the offensive 3-point threat of Curry on the court, he intentionally runs on the court looking for quick and easy 2s while leaving the other Warriors open for 3s. Jordan Poole has shown significant improvement over the last seasons and on that game, he stepped up and showed on what he is capable of.

Lakers still have to find their chemistry around the court. Without a doubt, as individual players, they are gifted with the likes of Westbrook, Carmelo, Bazemore, James, but they have yet to fix their ball movement and team chemistry.

Jordan Poole has really gain a lot of confidence playing with Steph and the Warriors last season. And now it translate to the court as he can be the kid splash. And he can give easy 20 ppg, and when Klay is back, the Warriors are going to be great again. So I'm just surprised by the sudden improvement of Poole, he is a quick learner in the GSW offense and together with Wiggins, they are really a dangerous team in the West. Might not be the same when they used to dominant the games years ago, but they are close to it right now if Klay will be back in the line-up.

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