I believe 100% that Kyrie will get the shot. He said many times that he is not against the vaccine itself and he is only against the fact that there are mandates and people are losing jobs for not getting the vaccination and he believes that's wrong. I believe that not getting the vaccination and dying while also making everyone around you sick and causing the world so much trouble that you would be willing to not get the vaccination and cause death and suffering is a worse outcome than losing your job.
So, I am in 100% full support for anyone who doesn't get the vaxx to be fired, we need people to get it so that we can go back to the world we used to live in. However Kyrie will get it as soon as he realizes he will not be playing while he watches others do. All of this "this is not me retiring" and "I am not against the vaccination" stuff are just path for him to change his stance later on.
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Now he has this "Retire" card. I don't even know why the Nets aren't trying to trade him. He is an egoistic player that doesn't want to vaccine for personal reasons. He'd rather lose huge amounts of money and not help his teammates just for the sake of him not being vaccinated. What kind of attitude is that?
or will they just let Kyrie not play in their home games.
Yes, there's a hint of being selfish on this act that's unpleasing to everyone, the Nets management, the team and especially the fans. or will they just let Kyrie not play in their home games.
Have he ever considered thinking about young fans that are looking forward to see him play? Those who idolizes him and even bought jerseys with his name and even the expensive shoes named after him. They are waiting and expecting a blast since 3 of the Nets stars will be healthy this season.
I think Irving should go back to Cleveland Cavaliers where he starts. He is good but he can never win a championship without the help of a player that has the same status as his, now, the Cleveland Cavaliers are struggling, maybe if he gets traded to this team, he can dictate what he like but he needs to prove that he is a good leader by bringing the team to the playoffs.
That would not happen as no team would accept him if he remains to have that kind of attitude, he will end up with the Nets and if he will not cooperate, he would just sit in the entire season.
I think Durant and Harden are enough for the Nets to win a championship. Last season during the regular season, Durant and Harden already had chemistry, so if both will remain healthy in the regular season and postseason, I would still trust them to win against the defending champion.
Now he has this "Retire" card. I don't even know why the Nets aren't trying to trade him. He is an egoistic player that doesn't want to vaccine for personal reasons. He'd rather lose huge amounts of money and not help his teammates just for the sake of him not being vaccinated. What kind of attitude is that?
or will they just let Kyrie not play in their home games.
Yes, there's a hint of being selfish on this act that's unpleasing to everyone, the Nets management, the team and especially the fans. or will they just let Kyrie not play in their home games.
Have he ever considered thinking about young fans that are looking forward to see him play? Those who idolizes him and even bought jerseys with his name and even the expensive shoes named after him. They are waiting and expecting a blast since 3 of the Nets stars will be healthy this season.
I think Irving should go back to Cleveland Cavaliers where he starts. He is good but he can never win a championship without the help of a player that has the same status as his, now, the Cleveland Cavaliers are struggling, maybe if he gets traded to this team, he can dictate what he like but he needs to prove that he is a good leader by bringing the team to the playoffs.
This is the reason why he can't stay long in one team. He might stayed long enough with the Cavs but correct me if I'm wrong but after he got his championship with LeBron, his ego went up. He created dramas like this. He wants attention always by making this kind of problems and shitstuffs.
Add the Pepsi Cola advertisement and Uncle Drew movie. It's like everything went on how he wanted it to happen but the end part is now blurry with all this stunts that he is making. I am a fan and will always be whenever he performs at his best on the basketball floor. But outside that is a different story. Now he has this "Retire" card. I don't even know why the Nets aren't trying to trade him. He is an egoistic player that doesn't want to vaccine for personal reasons. He'd rather lose huge amounts of money and not help his teammates just for the sake of him not being vaccinated. What kind of attitude is that?
or will they just let Kyrie not play in their home games.
Yes, there's a hint of being selfish on this act that's unpleasing to everyone, the Nets management, the team and especially the fans. or will they just let Kyrie not play in their home games.
Have he ever considered thinking about young fans that are looking forward to see him play? Those who idolizes him and even bought jerseys with his name and even the expensive shoes named after him. They are waiting and expecting a blast since 3 of the Nets stars will be healthy this season.
They might trade him, or like Ben he will get deducted sums of money for not participating in the Nets game. Kyrie still owns the Nets for singing a contract, and the Nets deserves something in return for Kyrie's services.
He also has a card for that. "I will retire if they trade me."I don't think that he still has the ace in his sleeve here, Nets can call his bluff anytime, if he wanted to retire so be it. But I don't think he will be even in the ballot of a HOF in the future because of his antics and drama. He has supposed to partnered with Kyrie to make a Nets championship caliber, but with his attitude now, might be a wrong decision by anyone, to pair with him. Lucky Celtics, they have dumped him before this whole covid-19 pandemic. They should have been the one who has the headache right now.
Now he has this "Retire" card. I don't even know why the Nets aren't trying to trade him. He is an egoistic player that doesn't want to vaccine for personal reasons. He'd rather lose huge amounts of money and not help his teammates just for the sake of him not being vaccinated. What kind of attitude is that?
Celtics are lucky indeed that they traded him and now the Nets are having a problem with his attitudes. After the Ben Simmons saga, we have another saga again - the Kyrie Irving saga. I will be waiting for the next move of the Nets with this. Will they trade him or will they just let Kyrie not play in their home games.
They might trade him, or like Ben he will get deducted sums of money for not participating in the Nets game. Kyrie still owns the Nets for singing a contract, and the Nets deserves something in return for Kyrie's services.
He also has a card for that. "I will retire if they trade me."I don't think that he still has the ace in his sleeve here, Nets can call his bluff anytime, if he wanted to retire so be it. But I don't think he will be even in the ballot of a HOF in the future because of his antics and drama. He has supposed to partnered with Kyrie to make a Nets championship caliber, but with his attitude now, might be a wrong decision by anyone, to pair with him. Lucky Celtics, they have dumped him before this whole covid-19 pandemic. They should have been the one who has the headache right now.
Boston management sees how hardheaded he is, that's why they allow the trade.
The best decision that the team did before the whole pandemic, if they are the one who's handling him now maybe it's more
difficult, Celtics is also one of those respective franchises the chance that the argument between Kyrie's camp and Boston will
be more vocal.
Unlike with the Nets, who still trying to convince Kyrie to work and to consider all the options that will favor both sides.
I think that Kyrie will definitely come around, just give him some time.
He is known to be a bit idiosyncratic, and this is not the first time that he's pulled something like this.
But at the end of the day he will be out of literally hundreds of millions of dollars and he isn't stupid. Same deal with Simmons.
He is known to be a bit idiosyncratic, and this is not the first time that he's pulled something like this.
But at the end of the day he will be out of literally hundreds of millions of dollars and he isn't stupid. Same deal with Simmons.
He would probably start playing in the regular season, but his attitude is unacceptable, it's not anymore professional, he and his team are bound into a contract and I don't think the organization has not done their part, it was only Irving who think he is the real superstar and has a lot of conditions that he wants to be granted.
His main problem is his ego and pride.
He always wanted to be more important than anyone else. He tend to just stick to what he believes and is very stubborn in changing his perspective.
Now, I guess it's just too stupid to sacrifice his career over his pride by not taking the vaccine.
Well, we have our own choices, but Kyrie's attitude is just too annoying and every NBA fan must also be annoyed by his childish attitude.
Irving's problem started when he is paired with a star player in a team, back when he was still the lone star player on the Cavaliers, we don't hear a lot of issues regarding him and his team. But, when Lebron played with them (which obviously bron is the main man), his real character showed up and that's the reason why he left the Cavaliers for Boston Celtics, and he was supposed to be doing well but still, he does not fit with the team, until he arrives with the Nets with the same problem.
He always wanted to be the alpha on the team, and that's what we saw in Cavs. He try to proved in again in Celtics, yet I would say that during that time, he didn't get the respect of his team mates. Not sure about the reasons, maybe it was his personality or something. Now with the Nets, similar issues have arise, he became now an issue instead of the one who will solved the problem of Nets by helping them achieved a common goal with Durant and Harden. I guess it's better for him to retire.
They might trade him, or like Ben he will get deducted sums of money for not participating in the Nets game. Kyrie still owns the Nets for singing a contract, and the Nets deserves something in return for Kyrie's services.
He also has a card for that. "I will retire if they trade me."I don't think that he still has the ace in his sleeve here, Nets can call his bluff anytime, if he wanted to retire so be it. But I don't think he will be even in the ballot of a HOF in the future because of his antics and drama. He has supposed to partnered with Kyrie to make a Nets championship caliber, but with his attitude now, might be a wrong decision by anyone, to pair with him. Lucky Celtics, they have dumped him before this whole covid-19 pandemic. They should have been the one who has the headache right now.
I think that Kyrie will definitely come around, just give him some time.
He is known to be a bit idiosyncratic, and this is not the first time that he's pulled something like this.
But at the end of the day he will be out of literally hundreds of millions of dollars and he isn't stupid. Same deal with Simmons.
He is known to be a bit idiosyncratic, and this is not the first time that he's pulled something like this.
But at the end of the day he will be out of literally hundreds of millions of dollars and he isn't stupid. Same deal with Simmons.
He would probably start playing in the regular season, but his attitude is unacceptable, it's not anymore professional, he and his team are bound into a contract and I don't think the organization has not done their part, it was only Irving who think he is the real superstar and has a lot of conditions that he wants to be granted.
His main problem is his ego and pride.
He always wanted to be more important than anyone else. He tend to just stick to what he believes and is very stubborn in changing his perspective.
Now, I guess it's just too stupid to sacrifice his career over his pride by not taking the vaccine.
Well, we have our own choices, but Kyrie's attitude is just too annoying and every NBA fan must also be annoyed by his childish attitude.
Irving's problem started when he is paired with a star player in a team, back when he was still the lone star player on the Cavaliers, we don't hear a lot of issues regarding him and his team. But, when Lebron played with them (which obviously bron is the main man), his real character showed up and that's the reason why he left the Cavaliers for Boston Celtics, and he was supposed to be doing well but still, he does not fit with the team, until he arrives with the Nets with the same problem.
I think that Kyrie will definitely come around, just give him some time.
He is known to be a bit idiosyncratic, and this is not the first time that he's pulled something like this.
But at the end of the day he will be out of literally hundreds of millions of dollars and he isn't stupid. Same deal with Simmons.
He is known to be a bit idiosyncratic, and this is not the first time that he's pulled something like this.
But at the end of the day he will be out of literally hundreds of millions of dollars and he isn't stupid. Same deal with Simmons.
He would probably start playing in the regular season, but his attitude is unacceptable, it's not anymore professional, he and his team are bound into a contract and I don't think the organization has not done their part, it was only Irving who think he is the real superstar and has a lot of conditions that he wants to be granted.
His main problem is his ego and pride.
He always wanted to be more important than anyone else. He tend to just stick to what he believes and is very stubborn in changing his perspective.
Now, I guess it's just too stupid to sacrifice his career over his pride by not taking the vaccine.
Well, we have our own choices, but Kyrie's attitude is just too annoying and every NBA fan must also be annoyed by his childish attitude.
I think that Kyrie will definitely come around, just give him some time.
He is known to be a bit idiosyncratic, and this is not the first time that he's pulled something like this.
But at the end of the day he will be out of literally hundreds of millions of dollars and he isn't stupid. Same deal with Simmons.
He is known to be a bit idiosyncratic, and this is not the first time that he's pulled something like this.
But at the end of the day he will be out of literally hundreds of millions of dollars and he isn't stupid. Same deal with Simmons.
He would probably start playing in the regular season, but his attitude is unacceptable, it's not anymore professional, he and his team are bound into a contract and I don't think the organization has not done their part, it was only Irving who think he is the real superstar and has a lot of conditions that he wants to be granted.
I think that Kyrie will definitely come around, just give him some time.
He is known to be a bit idiosyncratic, and this is not the first time that he's pulled something like this.
But at the end of the day he will be out of literally hundreds of millions of dollars and he isn't stupid. Same deal with Simmons.
He is known to be a bit idiosyncratic, and this is not the first time that he's pulled something like this.
But at the end of the day he will be out of literally hundreds of millions of dollars and he isn't stupid. Same deal with Simmons.
They might trade him, or like Ben he will get deducted sums of money for not participating in the Nets game. Kyrie still owns the Nets for singing a contract, and the Nets deserves something in return for Kyrie's services.
He also has a card for that. "I will retire if they trade me."Just saw that Kyrie will not be playing for the Nets until he is vaccinated. I am all for people whom have concerns about the vaccine, but the science is out now and it's proven to be safe and helping save lives. I would probably take Kyrie a bit more serious if I didn't already know he's a nut job. I mean the guy believes that the earth is flat, what more do you need to say lol.
LOL! His case will be the one that will never be forgotten for a long time. I mean, his stubbornness is out if this world and he has the money to make something possible. Like looking for the most trusted vaccine or paying up someone in the health industry to make sure there is nothing else in the vaccine but just the vaccine itself. There are ways to do it professionally with the use of money but it looks like he doesn't want to go that far and just believe whatever he thinks.
I respect him and his decisions but he should think about how many people already took the vaccine and that includes people that is mostly around him.
The world doesn't revolve just for him. Oh sorry, it doesn't revolve according to his belief.
They might trade him, or like Ben he will get deducted sums of money for not participating in the Nets game. Kyrie still owns the Nets for singing a contract, and the Nets deserves something in return for Kyrie's services.
He also has a card for that. "I will retire if they trade me." 
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the Nets are still afraid to lose him and still giving him a chance, not playing with salary is too good for an offer.
Nets management is definitely in a losing position if Kyrie doesn't play all games this season but it's good they made their position very clear. They passed the ball on Irving's court and it's up to him if he wants the team to lose a key player because he wants to exercise his right. I hope the team does well without him.the Nets are still afraid to lose him and still giving him a chance, not playing with salary is too good for an offer.
As a business entity, I don't think that Nets are in total agreement of Kyrie getting his salary but not playing. Maybe this is just their initial statement, but for sure they are going to iron things out maybe in the next month that will help them recover the losses in the Kyrie drama. They might trade him, or like Ben he will get deducted sums of money for not participating in the Nets game. Kyrie still owns the Nets for singing a contract, and the Nets deserves something in return for Kyrie's services.
Just saw that Kyrie will not be playing for the Nets until he is vaccinated. ~
It's only for their "Home Games" I believed and not the whole game season. It's because of Brooklyn's protocol regarding in-game activities. ~Nets already gamble their future the first time they acquired him. Until now, he is creating more problems. Stay tuned for his next crazy action lol.
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~ Full Nets statement:
^ Based on that, Kyrie won't play any of the Nets home or road games.About his payment for games he will miss:
~ But,.. yes there's a twist even if he doesn't play road games the deduction that will be made with his salary are just the home games that was announced by the NBA for whoever will not take the vaccine.
^ He's still a lucky MF even if he sit out the entire season. Maybe he should just lay low and start his own community league where all players are free to play with/against him.~
I would agree Luka has MVP potential, but I don't think the Mavs are going to do well enough for him to truly be in MVP contention.
The award is supposed to be for individual performances but yeah how they can carry their own team plays a big factor in the voting.I would agree Luka has MVP potential, but I don't think the Mavs are going to do well enough for him to truly be in MVP contention.
I think I'd go with Durant as the obvious choice because he's the best basketball player in the world right now. Harden might be a sleeper though if Kyrie misses a lot of games and he's able to run the point largely by himself for the Nets.
No argument here. KD is really a special player and Harden could also deliver.One surprising thing to myself about my own opinion... I don't think any of the Lakers have a shot at MVP this year.
Must be tough for a Laker fan to say that The ball and the responsibility will be spread out which lessen a player's chance to stand out. 
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I'm just looking at the odds for the Regular season MVP from sportsbet, what can you say about it?
I'm thinking it's going to be close between KD and Giannis, so I"m surprised that Luka is somewhat the favorite this season.
I'm not surprised that Luka is the favorite especially how he's been playing the last two seasons. I'm more surprised that Embiid is at 7.50 while Jokic is at 15. No disrespect to Joel and the bookies but come on man, it has to be closer than that. Is he injured? What am I missing?I'm just looking at the odds for the Regular season MVP from sportsbet, what can you say about it?
I'm thinking it's going to be close between KD and Giannis, so I"m surprised that Luka is somewhat the favorite this season.
Luka is really playing very well, hopefully we can bring the Mavs to the championship this year so that the MVP odds will be validated.
Surprising the reigning MVP at 15, that's some disrespect in my opinion. No he is not injured or something, but maybe sports bookies are not taking him just like what last year when he was a long shot. Joel has been consistent in the MVP voting, it's that the injury somewhat diminished his chances last season.
I would agree Luka has MVP potential, but I don't think the Mavs are going to do well enough for him to truly be in MVP contention. I also think Giannis has a lot to prove still. I don't think he was ready to be made MVP when he got it, and now that he's earned it, I'm not sure if he's deserving of another yet.
I think I'd go with Durant as the obvious choice because he's the best basketball player in the world right now. Harden might be a sleeper though if Kyrie misses a lot of games and he's able to run the point largely by himself for the Nets.
One surprising thing to myself about my own opinion... I don't think any of the Lakers have a shot at MVP this year.
I agree with you that the current roster of the Lakers has a problem with chemistry. I think it will take them several months to improve the mutual understanding on the court. Westbrook wants to make a triple-double every game while James needs to score enough points per game to break Kareem's record. So it will be very difficult for them to share the ball with each other.
Gladly they have some preseason games before the actual games to test their skills with their new teammates. Looks like we will know if the combination will work if we see them play together just like LBJ played with Bosh and Wade that was one of my favorite Big 3 that ever happens in NBA history. Sadly they ended up losing and decided to part ways. if not, they can easily dominate and continue straight to the NBA Finals before Wade has retired.
Just saw that Kyrie will not be playing for the Nets until he is vaccinated. I am all for people whom have concerns about the vaccine, but the science is out now and it's proven to be safe and helping save lives. I would probably take Kyrie a bit more serious if I didn't already know he's a nut job. I mean the guy believes that the earth is flat, what more do you need to say lol.
It's only for their "Home Games" I believed and not the whole game season. It's because of Brooklyn's protocol regarding in-game activities. I don't know what kind of convincing does Kyrie needs in order to get vaccinated. Whatever his reason, he should disregard it unless he had some medical issues before.
Nets already gamble their future the first time they acquired him. Until now, he is creating more problems. Stay tuned for his next crazy action lol.
The last update that I've read about vaccines is not mandated, but players won't be paid in each game that they will not play
Due to these restrictions. Kyrie still refusing and still not convinced that he will take his shots. You are right, acquiring him was already
a gamble, his game is not their problem but his attitude, which is showing now.
Good thing that they have Harden who are flexible and willing to work with KD and the rest to continue the chased for the title.
IMO, they are bad based on what they showed in the last game, yes, I believe that the main problem is the chemistry, they haven't built effective game chemistry yet so it's right that we should not easily assume that they'll win a championship together as they still have to fix that main problem.
Westbrook and Lebron are both main scorers on their team, they love to hold the ball most of the time and that is something they need to sort out to make their respective positive be as effective as expected. Anyway, preseason is still preseason, the real battle is in the regular season, so it's still early to make a judgment.
I agree with you that the current roster of the Lakers has a problem with chemistry. I think it will take them several months to improve the mutual understanding on the court. Westbrook wants to make a triple-double every game while James needs to score enough points per game to break Kareem's record. So it will be very difficult for them to share the ball with each other.Westbrook and Lebron are both main scorers on their team, they love to hold the ball most of the time and that is something they need to sort out to make their respective positive be as effective as expected. Anyway, preseason is still preseason, the real battle is in the regular season, so it's still early to make a judgment.
I wouldn't say that it will take several months to improve the chemistry of the team.
They just have to play in the regular season, next couple of games, and we will already know if there is a chemistry issue or not.
We have said this to Brooklyn when they acquire KD and then Irving, but there is no issue in the beginning. Same as with Harden joining. Majority are veterans and can adjust and adapt fairly quickly as they have been in the league for years already.
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