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legendary
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October 13, 2021, 06:59:30 PM
Just saw that Kyrie will not be playing for the Nets until he is vaccinated.  I am all for people whom have concerns about the vaccine, but the science is out now and it's proven to be safe and helping save lives. I would probably take Kyrie a bit more serious if I didn't already know he's a nut job.  I mean the guy believes that the earth is flat, what more do you need to say lol.

It's only for their "Home Games" I believed and not the whole game season. It's because of Brooklyn's protocol regarding in-game activities. I don't know what kind of convincing does Kyrie needs in order to get vaccinated. Whatever his reason, he should disregard it unless he had some medical issues before.

Nets already gamble their future the first time they acquired him. Until now, he is creating more problems. Stay tuned for his next crazy action lol.
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October 13, 2021, 06:59:11 PM
IMO, they are bad based on what they showed in the last game, yes, I believe that the main problem is the chemistry, they haven't built effective game chemistry yet so it's right that we should not easily assume that they'll win a championship together as they still have to fix that main problem.

Westbrook and Lebron are both main scorers on their team, they love to hold the ball most of the time and that is something they need to sort out to make their respective positive be as effective as expected. Anyway, preseason is still preseason, the real battle is in the regular season, so it's still early to make a judgment.
I agree with you that the current roster of the Lakers has a problem with chemistry. I think it will take them several months to improve the mutual understanding on the court. Westbrook wants to make a triple-double every game while James needs to score enough points per game to break Kareem's record. So it will be very difficult for them to share the ball with each other.
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October 13, 2021, 06:54:45 PM
Warriors vs Lakers tonight on TNT. A preview matchup of their season opener that will be played in just one week. Something tells me the outcome of the two games will be vastly different, but maybe we’ll get a glimpse of the stars going at it tonight at some point.

The NBA is back baby!!!

Exactly why nobody should be betting preseason.  If blindly I told someone GS stars aren't playing and the Lakers are going to run theirs you would think the Lakers would blow them out.  Preseason is just that.  But with that being said Lakers are gonna skid at some point in the year.  That team doesn't look good together.  Just no flow.

Not betting either since I know that we cannot see a full performance on each team playing since for sure they are just testing their piece on how they can work together on regular season so best to save our bets later on once they are really rolling since for sure we can see them playing well since they want to be the number one of their division.

Maybe for now we can see them struggle since for sure there big accumulate players will adjusting the system where they are not the main man inside the court but for sure we can see a different lakers once the the new season open.
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October 13, 2021, 04:56:35 PM
Warriors vs Lakers tonight on TNT. A preview matchup of their season opener that will be played in just one week. Something tells me the outcome of the two games will be vastly different, but maybe we’ll get a glimpse of the stars going at it tonight at some point.

The NBA is back baby!!!

Exactly why nobody should be betting preseason.  If blindly I told someone GS stars aren't playing and the Lakers are going to run theirs you would think the Lakers would blow them out.  Preseason is just that.  But with that being said Lakers are gonna skid at some point in the year.  That team doesn't look good together.  Just no flow.
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October 13, 2021, 03:57:12 PM
Lakers did not play bad, they just have chemistry issues for now because there are three players who build their whole careers out of being the main ball handler and then passing out. Lebron, Westbrook and Rondo. Rondo and Westbrook could play at different times, that can be arranged, but Westbrook and Lebron will need to learn to play together, which may take some time.

I still believe that they are by far the best team in the league right now. I know they are old, but they are also old but great players, not like they are bad now, sure most of them are beyond their peak nowadays but they are still playing like they are the best and that is what matters the most. I believe unless some big injuries happen, Lakers will cruise to 1st seed and championship.
IMO, they are bad based on what they showed in the last game, yes, I believe that the main problem is the chemistry, they haven't built effective game chemistry yet so it's right that we should not easily assume that they'll win a championship together as they still have to fix that main problem.

Westbrook and Lebron are both main scorers on their team, they love to hold the ball most of the time and that is something they need to sort out to make their respective positive be as effective as expected. Anyway, preseason is still preseason, the real battle is in the regular season, so it's still early to make a judgment.
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October 13, 2021, 03:51:00 PM
Lakers did not play bad, they just have chemistry issues for now because there are three players who build their whole careers out of being the main ball handler and then passing out. Lebron, Westbrook and Rondo. Rondo and Westbrook could play at different times, that can be arranged, but Westbrook and Lebron will need to learn to play together, which may take some time.

I still believe that they are by far the best team in the league right now. I know they are old, but they are also old but great players, not like they are bad now, sure most of them are beyond their peak nowadays but they are still playing like they are the best and that is what matters the most. I believe unless some big injuries happen, Lakers will cruise to 1st seed and championship.
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October 13, 2021, 01:44:28 PM
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Harden can be the guard focus and Durant to lead the team.  Got so.e good role players around him.
I thought Nets was crazy when they acquired Harden but he's becoming more valuable to the team now and actually makes his acquisition a great move. I think the decision made by the management on Kyrie became easier since they knew they still have Harden.

I would say that it is a big gamble on them, acquiring Harden and Kyrie and Durant and giving up so many players and future draft rights.

But in the end, it might be a good move, last season was really good, if not for the injuries on Harden and Kyrie they could have been in the finals. And now that Kyrie seems to be an issue for the team, perhaps they will have no qualms on trading him since they still have Harden to help Durant.
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October 13, 2021, 11:15:14 AM
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Harden can be the guard focus and Durant to lead the team.  Got so.e good role players around him.
I thought Nets was crazy when they acquired Harden but he's becoming more valuable to the team now and actually makes his acquisition a great move. I think the decision made by the management on Kyrie became easier since they knew they still have Harden.
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October 13, 2021, 09:44:00 AM
Just saw that Kyrie will not be playing for the Nets until he is vaccinated.  I am all for people whom have concerns about the vaccine, but the science is out now and it's proven to be safe and helping save lives. I would probably take Kyrie a bit more serious if I didn't already know he's a nut job.  I mean the guy believes that the earth is flat, what more do you need to say lol.
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October 13, 2021, 06:21:22 AM
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I'm just looking at the odds for the Regular season MVP from sportsbet, what can you say about it?



I'm thinking it's going to be close between KD and Giannis, so I"m surprised that Luka is somewhat the favorite this season.
I'm not surprised that Luka is the favorite especially how he's been playing the last two seasons. I'm more surprised that Embiid is at 7.50 while Jokic is at 15. No disrespect to Joel and the bookies but come on man, it has to be closer than that. Is he injured? What am I missing?

Luka is really playing very well, hopefully we can bring the Mavs to the championship this year so that the MVP odds will be validated.

Surprising the reigning MVP at 15, that's some disrespect in my opinion. No he is not injured or something, but maybe sports bookies are not taking him just like what last year when he was a long shot. Joel has been consistent in the MVP voting, it's that the injury somewhat diminished his chances last season.
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October 13, 2021, 05:59:52 AM
They seem to have a problem, that's obvious.. They are -7.5 in this game and yet they can't win even if they don't have to cover the spread. Yes, the starters played a decent minutes that they might do the same in the regular season.

https://www.covers.com/sport/basketball/nba/boxscore/250464
Lebron James    26:09 minutes -    17 points
C. Anthony 24:40 minutes - 20 points
R. Westbrook 28:08 minutes -    10 points only ( he has to level up)
Yes, Coach Vogel will need to tweak some plays and strengthen their chemistry. Melo is doing great, he will surely give everything this year.
Westbrook though doesn't look like he is comfortable yet. Let's give it more time. He got used to being in control of everything and this is a big leap because now he is adjusting with Lebron with almost the same type of play.
Jordan Poole is the player of the game, I can see so much room for improvement. It's obvious he is growing from shouldering the team whenever Steph is out.

And that makes GSW still dangerous even without Klay because of Jordan Poole. Hopefully he can bring that on step further when the regular seasons start.

Yes, that's the trade mark of Coach Vogel, even in-game he will make some tweaks if he see some weakness in the chemistry of Lakers. I do agree with giving some time to WB, just one game at a time. We might be surprised to see him anchoring the offense for the Lakers and seeing a prime WB again.

Hopefully, it will be a different story in the regular season, Westbrook based on his numbers seems not really in synch, I mean, he used to deliver a triple-double in a game but now it looks like it's a different Westbrook what we are seeing now.
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October 13, 2021, 05:42:05 AM
Do you guys know when Klay Thompson will be able to play again?
It looks like Klay Thompson hasn't fully recovered from the injury, considering that he is still not training at full strength. As far as I know, there is no exact date of his return yet, but I guess Warriors fans can expect him to return to court no earlier than December.
Looks like that's the rough date for a return as per the rumors, better not to rush things for him since it's a full rehabilitation. The urge should eat him, I guess.

Well, no play for Kyrie if he's not going to be vaccinated. He's an asset to the team and hope that he will choose the right thing and will be able to play for the team as NBA gets back again.
Seems this to be a problem for the Nets there should be some kind of persuasion to be done or some reconsideration since the last time we are at the bubble there's no vaccination being done to players maybe they need to sort it out on that options but since it's a mandatory it would be good not to play the most.
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October 13, 2021, 05:41:06 AM
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I'm just looking at the odds for the Regular season MVP from sportsbet, what can you say about it?

I'm thinking it's going to be close between KD and Giannis, so I"m surprised that Luka is somewhat the favorite this season.
I'm more surprised that Embiid is at 7.50 while Jokic is at 15. No disrespect to Joel and the bookies but come on man, it has to be closer than that. Is he injured? What am I missing?

I'm with you with this comparison. Though it seems like Jokic is a complete package Center, but I guess this will somehow enlighten us with the comparison why Embid has the edge over Jokic.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2933051-joel-embiid-vs-nikola-jokic-which-big-man-has-the-best-mvp-case.amp.html
But I agree, the odds must've been closer than that, especially that Jokic won the 2020 MVP andmight continue his momentum and become even better this year.
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October 13, 2021, 05:38:59 AM
They seem to have a problem, that's obvious.. They are -7.5 in this game and yet they can't win even if they don't have to cover the spread. Yes, the starters played a decent minutes that they might do the same in the regular season.

https://www.covers.com/sport/basketball/nba/boxscore/250464
Lebron James    26:09 minutes -    17 points
C. Anthony 24:40 minutes - 20 points
R. Westbrook 28:08 minutes -    10 points only ( he has to level up)
Yes, Coach Vogel will need to tweak some plays and strengthen their chemistry. Melo is doing great, he will surely give everything this year.
Westbrook though doesn't look like he is comfortable yet. Let's give it more time. He got used to being in control of everything and this is a big leap because now he is adjusting with Lebron with almost the same type of play.
Jordan Poole is the player of the game, I can see so much room for improvement. It's obvious he is growing from shouldering the team whenever Steph is out.

And that makes GSW still dangerous even without Klay because of Jordan Poole. Hopefully he can bring that on step further when the regular seasons start.

Yes, that's the trade mark of Coach Vogel, even in-game he will make some tweaks if he see some weakness in the chemistry of Lakers. I do agree with giving some time to WB, just one game at a time. We might be surprised to see him anchoring the offense for the Lakers and seeing a prime WB again.
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October 13, 2021, 05:33:40 AM
I read a quote today that I felt really shined a light on the overreaction by today’s society to covid. Remember when Magic Johnson played in the NBA with full blown AIDS? How far have we fallen that now they won’t even let Kyrie play because he has refused to get a covid vaccine? Not even being sick with covid, just refusing a vaccine…. It doesn’t seem real.

I don't think that we can compare Magic's case though, as far as I know, AIDS can't be transferred while playing against it's each other, or the physical contact. As opposed the Covid wherein it's a communicable disease. So for me, it's not being blown out of proportion, it's just players refusing to understand like Kyrie in this case of being covid-19 vaccinated.
Yeah, Magic's case was a bad comparison.

On Kyrie's case, Nets can test him almost daily if they really want to know if he's been infected or not but they chose the easier path. From a business point of view, I think that's just logical. They have to put their players at ease knowing they are traveling/playing with teammates that are less likely to get covid because they're vaccinated.
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October 13, 2021, 04:59:14 AM
They seem to have a problem, that's obvious.. They are -7.5 in this game and yet they can't win even if they don't have to cover the spread. Yes, the starters played a decent minutes that they might do the same in the regular season.

https://www.covers.com/sport/basketball/nba/boxscore/250464
Lebron James    26:09 minutes -    17 points
C. Anthony 24:40 minutes - 20 points
R. Westbrook 28:08 minutes -    10 points only ( he has to level up)
Yes, Coach Vogel will need to tweak some plays and strengthen their chemistry. Melo is doing great, he will surely give everything this year.
Westbrook though doesn't look like he is comfortable yet. Let's give it more time. He got used to being in control of everything and this is a big leap because now he is adjusting with Lebron with almost the same type of play.
Jordan Poole is the player of the game, I can see so much room for improvement. It's obvious he is growing from shouldering the team whenever Steph is out.
It's good for the Lakers that they see those problems during preseason and will adjust when the regular starts.

Nice to see that all stars are now playing and showing healthy bodies, A good sign for Lakers knowing the calibers of those stars and
what they are capable of when the team needs them the most.

Preseason serves as recognizing good chemistries between players, while in the regular season is the time where they needed to bring the game to a more competitive level.

Meanwhile, with GSW, players are really enjoying each other. They are playing as one and the system works the way it was designed for them.
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October 13, 2021, 04:42:58 AM
I read a quote today that I felt really shined a light on the overreaction by today’s society to covid. Remember when Magic Johnson played in the NBA with full blown AIDS? How far have we fallen that now they won’t even let Kyrie play because he has refused to get a covid vaccine? Not even being sick with covid, just refusing a vaccine…. It doesn’t seem real.

I don't think that we can compare Magic's case though, as far as I know, AIDS can't be transferred while playing against it's each other, or the physical contact. As opposed the Covid wherein it's a communicable disease. So for me, it's not being blown out of proportion, it's just players refusing to understand like Kyrie in this case of being covid-19 vaccinated.
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October 13, 2021, 03:58:54 AM
I read a quote today that I felt really shined a light on the overreaction by today’s society to covid. Remember when Magic Johnson played in the NBA with full blown AIDS? How far have we fallen that now they won’t even let Kyrie play because he has refused to get a covid vaccine? Not even being sick with covid, just refusing a vaccine…. It doesn’t seem real.
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October 13, 2021, 01:20:19 AM
They seem to have a problem, that's obvious.. They are -7.5 in this game and yet they can't win even if they don't have to cover the spread. Yes, the starters played a decent minutes that they might do the same in the regular season.

https://www.covers.com/sport/basketball/nba/boxscore/250464
Lebron James    26:09 minutes -    17 points
C. Anthony 24:40 minutes - 20 points
R. Westbrook 28:08 minutes -    10 points only ( he has to level up)
Yes, Coach Vogel will need to tweak some plays and strengthen their chemistry. Melo is doing great, he will surely give everything this year.
Westbrook though doesn't look like he is comfortable yet. Let's give it more time. He got used to being in control of everything and this is a big leap because now he is adjusting with Lebron with almost the same type of play.
Jordan Poole is the player of the game, I can see so much room for improvement. It's obvious he is growing from shouldering the team whenever Steph is out.
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October 13, 2021, 12:52:30 AM
What's up with the LA Lakers, they lose again.

The big 3 of the Lakers played but it's not enough to beat the Warriors who have no Curry in the lineup.
Must be a chemistry problem or they are just having fun and not taking it seriously.

What are your thoughts on the winless preseason of the Lakers so far?

They seem to have a problem, that's obvious.. They are -7.5 in this game and yet they can't win even if they don't have to cover the spread. Yes, the starters played a decent minutes that they might do the same in the regular season.

https://www.covers.com/sport/basketball/nba/boxscore/250464
Lebron James    26:09 minutes -    17 points
C. Anthony 24:40 minutes - 20 points
R. Westbrook 28:08 minutes -    10 points only ( he has to level up)
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