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Quote from: TheGreatPython on September 12, 2021, 04:11:25 PM

If I have to list the roster for Lakers that makes sense.

PG : Westbrook / Rondo
SG : Monk / THT / Ellington / Nunn / Wesley Matthews , all these could play actually, but some of them will probably get a lot less minutes

SF : Lebron / Melo / Ariza / Bazemore
PF : AD (and Melo )
C : Deandre Jordan / Howard ( and AD sometimes)

Can anyone really imagine that this team will not be champions if they stay healthy. I get that there are many times good teams end up losing because they have injured players, a team with Curry/Klay/Durant/Draymond/Cousins ended up losing to Toronto, all because GSW missed nearly all their players on that finals, it was lucky for Toronto. However if there is no big injuries then we are 100% going to see Lakers winning for sure.

They will be champion, though the Nets also have their big 3 I think the Lakers always have the edge as they have more experience and their big men are solid. Howard and Davis could dominate the paint and the Nets will just focus on 3 point shooting which is a low percentage shot when the player is under pressure.

Lebron could switch to PG too. Grin

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If I have to list the roster for Lakers that makes sense.

PG : Westbrook / Rondo
SG : Monk / THT / Ellington / Nunn / Wesley Matthews , all these could play actually, but some of them will probably get a lot less minutes

SF : Lebron / Melo / Ariza / Bazemore
PF : AD (and Melo )
C : Deandre Jordan / Howard ( and AD sometimes)

Can anyone really imagine that this team will not be champions if they stay healthy. I get that there are many times good teams end up losing because they have injured players, a team with Curry/Klay/Durant/Draymond/Cousins ended up losing to Toronto, all because GSW missed nearly all their players on that finals, it was lucky for Toronto. However if there is no big injuries then we are 100% going to see Lakers winning for sure.

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Does anyone know what happens to Jahlil Okafor?

I read in the news that he was waived by the Nets.
https://www.nba.com/nets/news/2021/09/09/brooklyn-nets-waive-jahlil-okafor

Actually I almost forget this guy as I was not following the team he was playing, but I was following the 76ers that time when he was still with the team, and despite of the number 1 picks added to the team, that team still struggles, it only improves when Embiid came to the team.

If we look at the stats, https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/o/okafoja01.html
Not really what I'm expecting. Sad

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Quote from: Questat on September 12, 2021, 03:29:02 PM

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It is expected. Westbrook will most probably lose his triple double stats consistency, because he joined a super team where more than 2 players could dish like a pass-first point guard and another 2 who can dominantly grab rebounds.
The best thing Westbrook can do is to continue being an explosive point guard. Drive the lane and draw defenders and dish out to the spot up shooters.
If he can perfectly compliment LeBron and AD's style of play, they'll be a tough team to beat in the playoffs.

Yes! he might lose that stats knowing that he's now playing with both LeBron and Davis, who are always capable in producing that stats.
But for sure, if the right blend will be developed between these 3 stars, then adding up the spice by bringing Melo and Howard.
It's Excite me to see if how good Lakers stars in terms of adjusting in every position that they'll going to play.

They are not in their prime but by experienced, they are still capable of beating any teams from this league. Just my personal opinion.

I hope Westbrook is willing to accept his new role, the Lakers will not be successful if they will not play as a team, or have good chemistry. It's not about the individual numbers now, it's the team that should win the championship, and since Davis and James had already achieved that success in Lakers, I guess Westbrook has to follow the orders to have his first championship as well.

Westbrook isn’t going to change overnight and I think that’s fine. He brings a ton of energy to the table which LeBron lacks, and he’s a great rebounder which should take some slack off the Lakers big men. As long as Westbrook improves his 3 point shooting I think he’ll be just fine. Especially when LeBron is off the floor. My main concern is that LeBron might find his lack of compassion for his teammate’s dumb mistakes may find him in a rocky relationship with the sometimes streaky guard.

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Quote from: Pamadar on September 12, 2021, 10:25:30 AM

Quote from: Oasisman on September 12, 2021, 09:19:17 AM

It is expected. Westbrook will most probably lose his triple double stats consistency, because he joined a super team where more than 2 players could dish like a pass-first point guard and another 2 who can dominantly grab rebounds.
The best thing Westbrook can do is to continue being an explosive point guard. Drive the lane and draw defenders and dish out to the spot up shooters.
If he can perfectly compliment LeBron and AD's style of play, they'll be a tough team to beat in the playoffs.

Yes! he might lose that stats knowing that he's now playing with both LeBron and Davis, who are always capable in producing that stats.
But for sure, if the right blend will be developed between these 3 stars, then adding up the spice by bringing Melo and Howard.
It's Excite me to see if how good Lakers stars in terms of adjusting in every position that they'll going to play.

They are not in their prime but by experienced, they are still capable of beating any teams from this league. Just my personal opinion.

I hope Westbrook is willing to accept his new role, the Lakers will not be successful if they will not play as a team, or have good chemistry. It's not about the individual numbers now, it's the team that should win the championship, and since Davis and James had already achieved that success in Lakers, I guess Westbrook has to follow the orders to have his first championship as well.

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Quote from: Oasisman on September 12, 2021, 09:19:17 AM

It is expected. Westbrook will most probably lose his triple double stats consistency, because he joined a super team where more than 2 players could dish like a pass-first point guard and another 2 who can dominantly grab rebounds.
The best thing Westbrook can do is to continue being an explosive point guard. Drive the lane and draw defenders and dish out to the spot up shooters.
If he can perfectly compliment LeBron and AD's style of play, they'll be a tough team to beat in the playoffs.

Yes! he might lose that stats knowing that he's now playing with both LeBron and Davis, who are always capable in producing that stats.
But for sure, if the right blend will be developed between these 3 stars, then adding up the spice by bringing Melo and Howard.
It's Excite me to see if how good Lakers stars in terms of adjusting in every position that they'll going to play.

They are not in their prime but by experienced, they are still capable of beating any teams from this league. Just my personal opinion.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on September 12, 2021, 07:25:38 AM

I guess that minutes is too much for him, Westbrook and James could play his role, I'm not even sure if Westbrook would be able to play a PG position since Lebron is still here and we know ever since he became a Laker, he already play that PG position, despite his big.

Lebron james can play any rules Point Guard, center or side cause he is in average height he can adjust his given position. But some of his game he played as a Forward then he Carry his teammates to the victory .

I don't care what Lebron's position is written in the book, but he is really playing as a PG as he usually holds the ball. I have a feeling that Lebron will destroy Westbrook's triple-double consistency and I think even a double-double, Westbrook would still struggle as the lakers have a lot of bigs that could grab the rebounds unless they will intentionally give the rebound to Westbrook.

It is expected. Westbrook will most probably lose his triple double stats consistency, because he joined a super team where more than 2 players could dish like a pass-first point guard and another 2 who can dominantly grab rebounds.
The best thing Westbrook can do is to continue being an explosive point guard. Drive the lane and draw defenders and dish out to the spot up shooters.
If he can perfectly compliment LeBron and AD's style of play, they'll be a tough team to beat in the playoffs.

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Quote from: mirakal on September 12, 2021, 06:05:37 AM

I'd really love to see them having no chemistry issue, they are both legit big man and they have a lot of playoff experience.
Howard already had a championship that he never had before when he play with Kobe, so it's time for DJ to join the part as the Lakers could probably make it this year again with their loaded lineup.

DJ must really be excited playing with champions and I hope he can become a new spark for their team. Last year was just too bad for the Lakers and if AD and Lebron didn't come back after the injury, they could've loss in the play-in tournament.

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Lebron james can play any rules Point Guard, center or side cause he is in average height he can adjust his given position. But some of his game he played as a Forward then he Carry his teammates to the victory .

Any position, that's true. But now, he mostly stay outside to command plays and that kind of strategy also preserves his energy for a better offensive attack.
There's no doubt he is one of the best player in the league but it's not his era anymore and that's why he is looking for more help from co-veterans and some soon to be young stars.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on September 12, 2021, 07:25:38 AM

I guess that minutes is too much for him, Westbrook and James could play his role, I'm not even sure if Westbrook would be able to play a PG position since Lebron is still here and we know ever since he became a Laker, he already play that PG position, despite his big.

Lebron james can play any rules Point Guard, center or side cause he is in average height he can adjust his given position. But some of his game he played as a Forward then he Carry his teammates to the victory .

I don't care what Lebron's position is written in the book, but he is really playing as a PG as he usually holds the ball. I have a feeling that Lebron will destroy Westbrook's triple-double consistency and I think even a double-double, Westbrook would still struggle as the lakers have a lot of bigs that could grab the rebounds unless they will intentionally give the rebound to Westbrook.

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Quote from: Iranus on September 12, 2021, 07:07:59 AM

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Rondo would be willing to play that minutes if he will be given a chance, however, he is not a starter so it's hard to expect he will earn that minutes unless someone in the starting lineup with the same position he has will be injured, but we don't hope it will happen though, at least Rondo is ready to step up anytime.

This is probably why Rondo is with them again.
He's too flexible and can get in at any situation if he's needed to be in. But I guess he's not there just to get with those situations that crucial, likewise, he's there to play well anytime.

But if they are chasing veterans, that could help in short-term success. Because veterans will have the experience in the pitch. But alongside veterans, they should also focus on acquiring young talents keeping the future in mind. I don't think Rondo is capable enough to play more than 20 minutes. Because Lakers already have good enough starting 5 in their squad. Rondo might be getting like 15 to 20 minutes a game I'm guessing.

I guess that minutes is too much for him, Westbrook and James could play his role, I'm not even sure if Westbrook would be able to play a PG position since Lebron is still here and we know ever since he became a Laker, he already play that PG position, despite his big.

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Quote from: boyptc on September 12, 2021, 02:53:53 AM

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Rondo would be willing to play that minutes if he will be given a chance, however, he is not a starter so it's hard to expect he will earn that minutes unless someone in the starting lineup with the same position he has will be injured, but we don't hope it will happen though, at least Rondo is ready to step up anytime.

This is probably why Rondo is with them again.
He's too flexible and can get in at any situation if he's needed to be in. But I guess he's not there just to get with those situations that crucial, likewise, he's there to play well anytime.

But if they are chasing veterans, that could help in short-term success. Because veterans will have the experience in the pitch. But alongside veterans, they should also focus on acquiring young talents keeping the future in mind. I don't think Rondo is capable enough to play more than 20 minutes. Because Lakers already have good enough starting 5 in their squad. Rondo might be getting like 15 to 20 minutes a game I'm guessing.

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Quote from: Jating on September 12, 2021, 05:07:52 AM

DeAndre will just be another back up center with the Lakers, they already have Anthony Davis and then newly acquired Dwight Howard. Nothing personal though about acquiring DeAndre from Nets, they drop him so Lakers pick him up. And I don't think there is rivalry between the two, not right now, we will need to see them play first and developed this so called rivalry.

About that, I think they will be okay.

I'd really love to see them having no chemistry issue, they are both legit big man and they have a lot of playoff experience.
Howard already had a championship that he never had before when he play with Kobe, so it's time for DJ to join the part as the Lakers could probably make it this year again with their loaded lineup.

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Quote from: Jating on September 12, 2021, 05:07:52 AM

DeAndre will just be another back up center with the Lakers, they already have Anthony Davis and then newly acquired Dwight Howard. Nothing personal though about acquiring DeAndre from Nets, they drop him so Lakers pick him up. And I don't think there is rivalry between the two, not right now, we will need to see them play first and developed this so called rivalry.

About that, I think they will be okay.

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"Obviously as a big, when I was in high school, a guy that I watched all the time was Dwight Howard and obviously we never had a chance to be teammates before.

Once when he was young DJ also looked up to Dwight, it just changed once he stepped on the NBA floor. I think he is just being competitive about the physicality that's why they are heated up whenever they meet. Minutes given might be an issue but if they could give way to each other for the championship then everything will be smoother.

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Quote from: gagux123 on September 12, 2021, 05:01:08 AM

Any news about Gasol? Will he really leave the Lakers? Any rumors?

He was traded to his old team Memphis, who will buy him out. And the latest is that he will be going back to his native country of Spain. Check few posts above, it has been discussed.

I was analyzing DeAndre Jordan in the Lakers and I believe it was an excellent and strategic move.

Quote from: gagux123 on September 12, 2021, 05:01:08 AM

I believe DeAndre Jordan was one of the best options to replace Drummond. Because both players are a center with dominance, especially Drummond who is an excellent "rebounder", but NBA standards, he's a little bit short to act as a center ("only" 6-10), but that's not a problem for him.

Another interesting observation, the Lakers got to take a good player away from their biggest rival (Nets).

DeAndre will just be another back up center with the Lakers, they already have Anthony Davis and then newly acquired Dwight Howard. Nothing personal though about acquiring DeAndre from Nets, they drop him so Lakers pick him up. And I don't think there is rivalry between the two, not right now, we will need to see them play first and developed this so called rivalry.

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Any news about Gasol? Will he really leave the Lakers? Any rumors?

I was analyzing DeAndre Jordan in the Lakers and I believe it was an excellent and strategic move.

I believe DeAndre Jordan was one of the best options to replace Drummond. Because both players are a center with dominance, especially Drummond who is an excellent "rebounder", but NBA standards, he's a little bit short to act as a center ("only" 6-10), but that's not a problem for him.

Another interesting observation, the Lakers got to take a good player away from their biggest rival (Nets).

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Quote from: Russlenat on September 12, 2021, 02:42:29 AM

Rondo would be willing to play that minutes if he will be given a chance, however, he is not a starter so it's hard to expect he will earn that minutes unless someone in the starting lineup with the same position he has will be injured, but we don't hope it will happen though, at least Rondo is ready to step up anytime.

This is probably why Rondo is with them again.
He's too flexible and can get in at any situation if he's needed to be in. But I guess he's not there just to get with those situations that crucial, likewise, he's there to play well anytime.

Lakers are now stacked with quality starting players. So Rondo will eventually have to play on the bench and yes he will get his minutes by rotation. I don't think he will start any match other than if any starting player gets injured in his position. Other than that, he should be playing as a sub in.

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Quote from: Russlenat on September 12, 2021, 02:42:29 AM

Rondo would be willing to play that minutes if he will be given a chance, however, he is not a starter so it's hard to expect he will earn that minutes unless someone in the starting lineup with the same position he has will be injured, but we don't hope it will happen though, at least Rondo is ready to step up anytime.

This is probably why Rondo is with them again.

He's too flexible and can get in at any situation if he's needed to be in. But I guess he's not there just to get with those situations that crucial, likewise, he's there to play well anytime.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on September 11, 2021, 03:54:15 AM

I don't know maybe another guard in case either Westbrook or Rondo will get injured.

They had been chasing veterans and I am worried this may become their weakness.
I like how they just ended up trading Marc Gasol and then bought out by the Grizzlies but the Lakers also need young cores to make up for speed.
Yes, they have Westbrook and Rondo but it is WB alone who could still play 40+ minutes while I doubt Rondo's capability to play longer.
They need guards who focus on defense if they think their offensive power is enough.

I believed that Rondo can still play 30++ plus minutes. He wasn't given the time with the Clippers, but chances that he is back in the Lakers again, it will be like what he did when they won the ring 2 years ago.

They still have THT and McClung or Kendrick Nunn to play point as some time. I' banking of McClung to be the next Alex Caruso.

Rondo would be willing to play that minutes if he will be given a chance, however, he is not a starter so it's hard to expect he will earn that minutes unless someone in the starting lineup with the same position he has will be injured, but we don't hope it will happen though, at least Rondo is ready to step up anytime.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on September 11, 2021, 03:54:15 AM

I don't know maybe another guard in case either Westbrook or Rondo will get injured.

They had been chasing veterans and I am worried this may become their weakness.
I like how they just ended up trading Marc Gasol and then bought out by the Grizzlies but the Lakers also need young cores to make up for speed.
Yes, they have Westbrook and Rondo but it is WB alone who could still play 40+ minutes while I doubt Rondo's capability to play longer.
They need guards who focus on defense if they think their offensive power is enough.

I believed that Rondo can still play 30++ plus minutes. He wasn't given the time with the Clippers, but chances that he is back in the Lakers again, it will be like what he did when they won the ring 2 years ago.

They still have THT and McClung or Kendrick Nunn to play point as some time. I' banking of McClung to be the next Alex Caruso.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on September 11, 2021, 03:54:15 AM

I don't know maybe another guard in case either Westbrook or Rondo will get injured.

They had been chasing veterans and I am worried this may become their weakness.
I like how they just ended up trading Marc Gasol and then bought out by the Grizzlies but the Lakers also need young cores to make up for speed.
Yes, they have Westbrook and Rondo but it is WB alone who could still play 40+ minutes while I doubt Rondo's capability to play longer.
They need guards who focus on defense if they think their offensive power is enough.

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