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Quote from: Fredomago on September 10, 2021, 08:37:48 PM

Gasol didn't perform well after being traded to Lakers

Playing time plays a big role. I don't know what happened but his average stats didn't improved nor maintain because of lack of playing time given to him.

Quote from: Fredomago on September 10, 2021, 08:37:48 PM

Now that he's back and with his old uniform, hopefully we will see him playing at his best, though he's already past prime his prime, but his good knowledge playing this game may add up with the young Ja and Brooks. Together with Adams, Memphis can try to work it out using these twin towers. Knowing Gasol, he can play as power forward and even set up good plays for Morant, giving this young super star a much easier job.

He is expected not to play and will be waived by Memphis. We might not see him again wearing an NBA jersey as he's now also entering the retirement period.

As pointed above, he likely wants to stay in Spain with his family. His future basketball plans aren't clear yet. Maybe personal reasons as he can still play.

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Quote from: Reid on September 11, 2021, 01:54:06 AM

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Guys talking about Marc Gasol. He will be waived after the trade to Grizzlies.

I was actually expecting a waive as soon as the deal is done. Looking at the current Grizzlies young centers, it doesn't look like they needed him. He'll most likely warm the bench.

Quote from: Reid on September 11, 2021, 01:54:06 AM

Reports say he agreed with the buyout and I think he will just play in Spain for his remaining strength as a veteran.
It is a sad reality for us NBA fans but he will be near his family now and I think he will prefer it that way.

I hope he reconsiders if teams like Clippers or Warriors make a move for him. He can still play at a competitive level for 1 0r 2 years.

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Guys talking about Marc Gasol. He will be waived after the trade to Grizzlies.
Reports say he agreed with the buyout and I think he will just play in Spain for his remaining strength as a veteran.
It is a sad reality for us NBA fans but he will be near his family now and I think he will prefer it that way.

The Lakers made a good cap space after doing the trade and so does the Grizzlies after the buyout. So the question is, who are their targets for making that move?

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on September 10, 2021, 10:18:14 PM

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Quote from: harizen on September 10, 2021, 06:48:02 PM

If Anthony Davis will be healthy all season long, together with Lebron James, those newly acquired big men will mostly warm the bench most of the time or will just use when Lakers are now in the sure win.

I'm not expecting much on this Lakers bench. They are deep though compare to other teams but nothing special to me in terms of performance.

I expect that Howard and Jordan will get 8-10 minutes per game, and it should be enough to reduce the load on Anthony Davis during next season. By the way, Marc Gasol was traded to the Grizzlies immediately after the Lakers signed a contract with DeAndre Jordan.

Gasol is back to his old team, that's good for him, the Grizzlies now have two big men who can help to improve their defense.

The young Grizz showed their grit during the last playoffs, I expect them to be better in the next season as they have a big man with playoffs experience and a champion as well.

hopefully, Gasol will be able to get his numbers back.

I hope so because if you look at Mark Gasol's record in his last season with the Grizz, he averages 17.2 PPG, that's a decent figure for a big man. Though Gasol won a championship with the Raptors, his production has gone down, now that he is back with the Grizz, we will see that he will get more minutes again and will be comfortable playing with some familiar faces.

After a bad season with the LA Lakers, I don't know if he will be utilized well by the Grizz. he will be a good backup center because he is not anymore in his prime. He is 36 years old, normally at that age, a player would only play limited minutes and that would probably happen to Mark Gasol.

The new center of the Grizzlies is Steven Adams, so Gasol will play with him as Jonas Valančiūnas was traded for Adams.

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Quote from: Kelvinid on September 10, 2021, 08:15:53 PM

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Quote from: harizen on September 10, 2021, 06:48:02 PM

If Anthony Davis will be healthy all season long, together with Lebron James, those newly acquired big men will mostly warm the bench most of the time or will just use when Lakers are now in the sure win.

I'm not expecting much on this Lakers bench. They are deep though compare to other teams but nothing special to me in terms of performance.

I expect that Howard and Jordan will get 8-10 minutes per game, and it should be enough to reduce the load on Anthony Davis during next season. By the way, Marc Gasol was traded to the Grizzlies immediately after the Lakers signed a contract with DeAndre Jordan.

Gasol is back to his old team, that's good for him, the Grizzlies now have two big men who can help to improve their defense.

The young Grizz showed their grit during the last playoffs, I expect them to be better in the next season as they have a big man with playoffs experience and a champion as well.

hopefully, Gasol will be able to get his numbers back.

I hope so because if you look at Mark Gasol's record in his last season with the Grizz, he averages 17.2 PPG, that's a decent figure for a big man. Though Gasol won a championship with the Raptors, his production has gone down, now that he is back with the Grizz, we will see that he will get more minutes again and will be comfortable playing with some familiar faces.

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on September 10, 2021, 06:23:06 PM

Breaking news: Lakers are trying to sign wilt Chamberlin to a 3 year vet minimum deal. If they can't land wilt they are going to look to see if Dr. J is available to give them a driving presence in the paint. Let's see how this unfolds.

LOL. That's going deep old school. Grin

Quote from: harizen on September 10, 2021, 06:48:02 PM

I'm not expecting much on this Lakers bench. They are deep though compare to other teams but nothing special to me in terms of performance.

Just for training purposes maybe? Or they have better voices when cheering from the bench. I'm worried if they can still go small ball if ever they need more speed against a fast pace team like GSW. Westbrook, THT, Monk, Rondo, Bazemore, and Nunn. These are their speed type guys but I think they will focus on WB and THT more.

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Quote from: Kelvinid on September 10, 2021, 08:15:53 PM

Gasol is back to his old team, that's good for him, the Grizzlies now have two big men who can help to improve their defense.

The young Grizz showed their grit during the last playoffs, I expect them to be better in the next season as they have a big man with playoffs experience and a champion as well.

hopefully, Gasol will be able to get his numbers back.

Gasol didn't perform well after being traded to Lakers, I remember him back during his prime, the dark-horse Grizzle always bring competitive games against a heavy favorite west team.

Now that he's back and with his old uniform, hopefully we will see him playing at his best, though he's already past prime his prime, but his good knowledge playing this game may add up with the young Ja and Brooks.

Together with Adams, Memphis can try to work it out using these twin towers. Knowing Gasol, he can play as power forward and even set up good plays for Morant, giving this young super star a much easier job.

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Quote from: dwyane36 on September 10, 2021, 07:18:24 PM

Quote from: harizen on September 10, 2021, 06:48:02 PM

If Anthony Davis will be healthy all season long, together with Lebron James, those newly acquired big men will mostly warm the bench most of the time or will just use when Lakers are now in the sure win.

I'm not expecting much on this Lakers bench. They are deep though compare to other teams but nothing special to me in terms of performance.

I expect that Howard and Jordan will get 8-10 minutes per game, and it should be enough to reduce the load on Anthony Davis during next season. By the way, Marc Gasol was traded to the Grizzlies immediately after the Lakers signed a contract with DeAndre Jordan.

Gasol is back to his old team, that's good for him, the Grizzlies now have two big men who can help to improve their defense.

The young Grizz showed their grit during the last playoffs, I expect them to be better in the next season as they have a big man with playoffs experience and a champion as well.

hopefully, Gasol will be able to get his numbers back.

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Maybe the Sixers can get a good players in exchange of Ben from those future picks that will be included and not trade Ben one on one with franchise players.

Maybe because there's no other team that is willing to trade to acquire Simmons in exchange for their star player. I don't see any player now being a star player that was criticized than Ben Simmons, so he is really a problem to his team and I don't know if they can sell him the value they expect to receive.

you are right, they are sending silver for gold, that's not fair.

Yes, that's what I'm saying, no one on one trade for Ben, it's not going to be healthy for the any teams to trade their superstars to get Simmons who have issues. That's why just maybe a team can offer a lot of players as leverage (the receiving team can trade them as well), or some future picks, other than that, I'm going to be surprised to see Simmons landing to any championship contender teams.

What teams are the championship teams? IMO, GSW could be considered as a championship team and if they acquire Ben Simmons in exchange for Wiggins, I think they'll improve as a team. Green and Simmons will be the defensive players of the team, while Curry and Thompson the splash brothers will take care of the offensive requirement of the team.

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Quote from: TravelMug on September 09, 2021, 10:06:41 PM

Maybe the Sixers can get a good players in exchange of Ben from those future picks that will be included and not trade Ben one on one with franchise players.

Maybe because there's no other team that is willing to trade to acquire Simmons in exchange for their star player. I don't see any player now being a star player that was criticized than Ben Simmons, so he is really a problem to his team and I don't know if they can sell him the value they expect to receive.

you are right, they are sending silver for gold, that's not fair.

Yes, that's what I'm saying, no one on one trade for Ben, it's not going to be healthy for the any teams to trade their superstars to get Simmons who have issues. That's why just maybe a team can offer a lot of players as leverage (the receiving team can trade them as well), or some future picks, other than that, I'm going to be surprised to see Simmons landing to any championship contender teams.

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Quote from: harizen on September 10, 2021, 06:48:02 PM

If Anthony Davis will be healthy all season long, together with Lebron James, those newly acquired big men will mostly warm the bench most of the time or will just use when Lakers are now in the sure win.

I'm not expecting much on this Lakers bench. They are deep though compare to other teams but nothing special to me in terms of performance.

I expect that Howard and Jordan will get 8-10 minutes per game, and it should be enough to reduce the load on Anthony Davis during next season. By the way, Marc Gasol was traded to the Grizzlies immediately after the Lakers signed a contract with DeAndre Jordan.

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Quote from: Iranus on September 10, 2021, 02:33:29 PM

And with the addition of De Andre Jordan, Lakers look like a pretty solid team this season. An overall well-rounded team in my opinion.

But knowing the Lakers system, a bench is a bench no matter how solid it is.

If Anthony Davis will be healthy all season long, together with Lebron James, those newly acquired big men will mostly warm the bench most of the time or will just use when Lakers are now in the sure win.

I'm not expecting much on this Lakers bench. They are deep though compare to other teams but nothing special to me in terms of performance.

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Breaking news: Lakers are trying to sign wilt Chamberlin to a 3 year vet minimum deal. If they can't land wilt they are going to look to see if Dr. J is available to give them a driving presence in the paint. Let's see how this unfolds.

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Weird to see Deandre Jordan still getting decent payoff. I mean don't get me wrong he was an all-star caliber Center back in the day but 10 million a year for him?

May I know, where did that $10 million per year information is coming from?
AFAIK, based on the articles I read today, he will only get $2.6M for the LA Lakers this year.

https://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2021/9/3/22654484/deandre-jordan-lakers-free-agent-signing-nba-nets-buyout-contract

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That's usually the veteran minimum salary, so it will not reach to $10 million per year. However, the contract of Jordan is quite complicated as he came from NYK, got traded to Nets, and now he signed with the Lakers which I think his original contract is not yet over. As per the report, there's what we called waiver that he has to clear first.

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Quote from: beerlover on September 10, 2021, 03:08:23 PM

Weird to see Deandre Jordan still getting decent payoff. I mean don't get me wrong he was an all-star caliber Center back in the day but 10 million a year for him?

May I know, where did that $10 million per year information is coming from?
AFAIK, based on the articles I read today, he will only get $2.6M for the LA Lakers this year.

https://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2021/9/3/22654484/deandre-jordan-lakers-free-agent-signing-nba-nets-buyout-contract

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Weird to see Deandre Jordan still getting decent payoff. I mean don't get me wrong he was an all-star caliber Center back in the day but 10 million a year for him? Are we really sure he worths that? Maybe some of that is paid by Nets or something and I do not have all the bits and pieces. Dude was a 7.5 points 7.5 rebounds per game Center. In any case it feels like Lakers doesn't have one proper Center so instead they got 3 veteran ones to cover the difference.

Howard, Gasol, Jordan get together and could certainly create a 48 minute Center rotation, put a bit of AD in there and you got yourself 10-12 minute per game 3 big guys. I would rather not have any of them and just have one proper Center, but they couldn't get one apparently. Rest of the team looks great as well, it certainly is a team to beat in NBA right now, they have all the great pieces to compete for a title.

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Now that De Andre Jordan is officially a Laker, we'll most likely see an announcement on Marc Gasol trade (or not Grin

). I don't think Lakers will want to start the season with four centers but I don't get why they seem not interested in letting him go. There are probably two or three teams that wants a center like Gasol and acquiring him won't be expensive.

Yeah, probably Marc Gasol will be traded, they already have Davis, Howard and now DJ. So we don't know how Gasol will fit on that rotation, although he can still contribute with his outside shooting.
But it's better for the Lakers to move Gasol out, how about him going to Nuggets to back up Jokic? Or Bucks to add depth? Yes, Giannis can play the middle, but it's better to have a true center in Gasol to help them out.

That's a good team to land for Mark Gasol, he is a defensive-oriented player so he will be a big help especially for the Bucks whom they beat before. I'm sure the Bucks will get him if the Lakers will ask too much for him in return, and for sure they will not ask a big man in return for the trade.

The same question arises in my mind as well. You will hardly play all of your four centers, so you can easily let go of at least one of them if not two. That might open some chance to acquire some young players into the squad. And with the addition of De Andre Jordan, Lakers look like a pretty solid team this season. An overall well-rounded team in my opinion.

What the Lakers has to ensure now is the health of the Centers, Howard could probably survive as he only played with limited minutes, but Davis health is very important and if in case he will be injured again, Deandre Jordan and Dwight Howard should be ready to take over and don't forget, Lebron could also play the Center position if he likes, now that there's Westbrook, it will be more easier for him to adjust in any positiion.

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Quote from: judas on September 10, 2021, 07:36:39 AM

It is really nice to hear that LaMarcus Aldridge is healthy now as you can remember that he retired because of some health problems. And he is back at Brooklyn Nets now. Nets signed Paul Millsap also and sent DeAndre Jordan. Aldridge may not play like in his old days but I'm hoping to see him contributing well when he is given the chance. Nets are the favourite team for the championship again now. They struggled with injuries and they couldn't make it there in the last season. But now, I hope that they will not have the same problems and they will move on to the NBA finals with a great performance.

That is really good news. LaMarcus Aldridge is one of my favorite players. I was so sad when he retired because of his health issues. And now that he is returning and Nets have Paul Millsap with them, it's gonna be an awesome season for the Nets. Even if they don't win the title, I am sure that they will be in the top three. Very eager to watch Aldridge play again.

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Now that De Andre Jordan is officially a Laker, we'll most likely see an announcement on Marc Gasol trade (or not Grin

). I don't think Lakers will want to start the season with four centers but I don't get why they seem not interested in letting him go. There are probably two or three teams that wants a center like Gasol and acquiring him won't be expensive.

Yeah, probably Marc Gasol will be traded, they already have Davis, Howard and now DJ. So we don't know how Gasol will fit on that rotation, although he can still contribute with his outside shooting.
But it's better for the Lakers to move Gasol out, how about him going to Nuggets to back up Jokic? Or Bucks to add depth? Yes, Giannis can play the middle, but it's better to have a true center in Gasol to help them out.

That's a good team to land for Mark Gasol, he is a defensive-oriented player so he will be a big help especially for the Bucks whom they beat before. I'm sure the Bucks will get him if the Lakers will ask too much for him in return, and for sure they will not ask a big man in return for the trade.

The same question arises in my mind as well. You will hardly play all of your four centers, so you can easily let go of at least one of them if not two. That might open some chance to acquire some young players into the squad. And with the addition of De Andre Jordan, Lakers look like a pretty solid team this season. An overall well-rounded team in my opinion.

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That is to be expected by the Lakers, he might be used as bench/role players with 10 minutes per game to give Davis or even Howard a good rest. His best years are with the Clippers and after that he seems to be a journey man. Lakers have a lot of veterans and ageing players, and hopefully the medical staff can keep them healthy for the duration so that the Lakers can get back that championship ring. It's going to be very close in the West as to who will be the top seed.

The Lakers this year has a tall line up, so I guess DeAndre won't be stressing himself too much with Howard and AD in the line up. Also, he might be receiving enough lob from Rondo and LeBron just like when he was playing with the Clippers. I'm thinking DeAndre is the best fit in LA from all of their acquisition this year, If he can stay healthy and perform the way he play in Clippers. Well, the current Lakers roster is the biggest threat in the West anyway.

That is a pretty good point you gave there. He will help players like Davies and Howard play better as they might get rested a bit more and he would get the chance to cover that up for them. All in all, I think this is a good decision from the Lakers' management side which might passively help Howard as he is aging and help him with his fitness as well.

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