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September 13, 2021, 07:35:42 AM
This is good for Lebron James as Westbrook IMO has a better vision compared to him, it's my personal view only, you can oppose, and though Westbrook does not have a good shooting percentage, he sometimes calls the last shot, unlike Lebron as PG who would just past the ball. It will be the first time Lebron playing sa SF if this plan will be realize, so let's see.
Yes, this is interesting. Westbrook is a PG with different characteristics, he is very fast, explosive, and defends well (but he is not excellent defender).

The best comparison I can make of Westbrook is comparing it to DRose (in the Bulls era).
But in my humble opinion, I believe nowdays it's will be crazy let LeBron James play as ​PG

I'm not sure if the Lakers will focus on 3 point shooting, I guess with the current lineup, they will take advantage of their size and they will bring the ball inside where the big 3 can drive. I know they have 3 point shooters too but are they consistent enough, or can be trusted to produce a good percentage of shot?
This season's Lakers are not a 3-point shooting team. Unfortunately they don't have a player who is an excellent 3-point shooter, like Klay, Curry, Korver and others.

I believe in this Lakers team will be an experienced and technical team because they will have players with a lot of experience, for example, LeBron, Rondo, Howard, Ariza and Melo.
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September 13, 2021, 06:51:55 AM
The best thing Westbrook can do is to continue being an explosive point guard. Drive the lane and draw defenders and dish out to the spot up shooters.
If he can perfectly compliment LeBron and AD's style of play, they'll be a tough team to beat in the playoffs.

You are right. He is not showing any signs of slowing down and still fast and quick. He also becomes bulky that instead can result for him not to be quick, he can still forced his way to the near basket crashing defense.

That kind of PG is what the Lakers need, Westbrook is also an all-around player, he can defend and he can grab the rebounds, so the Lakers now had the best chance in winning the championship, and even the current Nets team will not be able to beat the Lakers if this team plays on the same page.
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September 13, 2021, 06:46:46 AM
It is expected. Westbrook will most probably lose his triple double stats consistency, because he joined a super team where more than 2 players could dish like a pass-first point guard and another 2 who can dominantly grab rebounds.

Lakers is not a super team. Only full of popular players before that is now out of their prime. Westbrook can still do double-double and that's even better because he is good in assist. Just need 10 points which is easy to make then focus on assist. Smiley And without forcing a stat pad, Westbrook didn't noticed he made lots of triple double last year. Maybe he can repeat in the Lakers although  I agree to you that it's now inconsistent.

The best thing Westbrook can do is to continue being an explosive point guard. Drive the lane and draw defenders and dish out to the spot up shooters.
If he can perfectly compliment LeBron and AD's style of play, they'll be a tough team to beat in the playoffs.

You are right. He is not showing any signs of slowing down and still fast and quick. He also becomes bulky that instead can result for him not to be quick, he can still forced his way to the near basket crashing defense.
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September 13, 2021, 06:39:16 AM
On the other hand, Brooklyn Nets is more focused on outside shots, I guess that's also why a hype is happening on what if both teams meet, who will win.
I am kind of excited too.



If no major injuries will happen again with this both teams, the possibilities are higher seeing them meeting in the finals.

Too early, but I'm also excited to see if how pride will win a title.


That would be a great Finals if the Lakers and Nets will face, especially if the series will go to game 7 and will end in a close match. I'm not underestimating the current NBA champion, but I believe that the Bucks can't win against a healthy Nets, so their best chance next season is to only play in the ECF.

The NBA from the last 3 years has become less predictable compared from the past when Miami and Golden States dominated the NBA.
I have to agree that Milwaukee just dodge an elimination because Brooklyn was suffering from Injury. They could have lost If Durant hit a 3 point buzzer beater, luckily Durant just stepped to the 3 point stripe.
Maybe If Milwaukee will improve the way they play, they can still compete with the Brooklyn superteam.

Actually, it's easy to predict, it only becomes unpredictable because of the injury issue, if the Lakers and Nets has no injured star player last season, I'm sure they will play in the NBA Finals.  If one of the star players is down due to injury, for sure there's a big effect like when Klay Thompson was injured and Durant as well on the Toronto Raptors NBA Finals series, and Toronto get the win.
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September 13, 2021, 06:31:35 AM
On the other hand, Brooklyn Nets is more focused on outside shots, I guess that's also why a hype is happening on what if both teams meet, who will win.
I am kind of excited too.



If no major injuries will happen again with this both teams, the possibilities are higher seeing them meeting in the finals.

Too early, but I'm also excited to see if how pride will win a title.


That would be a great Finals if the Lakers and Nets will face, especially if the series will go to game 7 and will end in a close match. I'm not underestimating the current NBA champion, but I believe that the Bucks can't win against a healthy Nets, so their best chance next season is to only play in the ECF.

The NBA from the last 3 years has become less predictable compared from the past when Miami and Golden States dominated the NBA.
I have to agree that Milwaukee just dodge an elimination because Brooklyn was suffering from Injury. They could have lost If Durant hit a 3 point buzzer beater, luckily Durant just stepped to the 3 point stripe.
Maybe If Milwaukee will improve the way they play, they can still compete with the Brooklyn superteam.
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September 13, 2021, 04:36:40 AM
On the other hand, Brooklyn Nets is more focused on outside shots, I guess that's also why a hype is happening on what if both teams meet, who will win.
I am kind of excited too.



If no major injuries will happen again with this both teams, the possibilities are higher seeing them meeting in the finals.

Too early, but I'm also excited to see if how pride will win a title.


That would be a great Finals if the Lakers and Nets will face, especially if the series will go to game 7 and will end in a close match. I'm not underestimating the current NBA champion, but I believe that the Bucks can't win against a healthy Nets, so their best chance next season is to only play in the ECF.
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September 13, 2021, 03:47:50 AM
I'm not sure if the Lakers will focus on 3 point shooting, I guess with the current lineup, they will take advantage of their size and they will bring the ball inside where the big 3 can drive. I know they have 3 point shooters too but are they consistent enough, or can be trusted to produce a good percentage of shot?
Yes, they might become an inside attacking team.
Regarding the outside shooting, they have Melo, Lebron, and AD. Rondo is also doing pretty well with his outside shots so I think they can use them for spacing.
We might not see much of how effective it will be for their first few games but with adjustments, it might work.


They will be more effective if they will use their size, but for me a combination is also good for this kind of squad.

WB or LeBron to attack, drop out the ball if Melo or any other open man is on the arc, they can always battle for the offensive rebound since they have size inside. Is more on how the team will blend together, a good chemistry that will allow each other to trust and win together as a team.

On the other hand, Brooklyn Nets is more focused on outside shots, I guess that's also why a hype is happening on what if both teams meet, who will win.
I am kind of excited too.



If no major injuries will happen again with this both teams, the possibilities are higher seeing them meeting in the finals.

Too early, but I'm also excited to see if how pride will win a title.
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September 13, 2021, 03:37:39 AM
It will be the first time Lebron playing sa SF if this plan will be realize, so let's see.

Actually, in Cavaliers especially in 2016, he is more of a Small Forward when Kyrie is taking the PG position (even in the list, Lebron James is Point Guard). Their Power Forward was Kevin Love and Richard Jefferson. They don't have a Center but Tristan Thompson is taking that position.

I like the change of position as Lebron can actually adopt any position be it as a Point Guard or even with a PF position. I'm sure he will allow Westbrook to be the main point guard while on the other hand, in the event that Lebron decides to make the play, Westbrook will just allow it and act as a support.
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September 13, 2021, 03:30:17 AM
I'm not sure if the Lakers will focus on 3 point shooting, I guess with the current lineup, they will take advantage of their size and they will bring the ball inside where the big 3 can drive. I know they have 3 point shooters too but are they consistent enough, or can be trusted to produce a good percentage of shot?
Yes, they might become an inside attacking team.
Regarding the outside shooting, they have Melo, Lebron, and AD. Rondo is also doing pretty well with his outside shots so I think they can use them for spacing.
We might not see much of how effective it will be for their first few games but with adjustments, it might work.
On the other hand, Brooklyn Nets is more focused on outside shots, I guess that's also why a hype is happening on what if both teams meet, who will win.
I am kind of excited too.



Honestly, I don't trust Lebron on his 3 point shooting, he is a little effective with his outside shooting if he is the one that is carrying the ball, not when he receives the ball from the passer. I think the most consistent 3 point shooters on the LA Lakers roster now are    Wesley Matthews, Carmelo Anthony, and Wayne Ellington I guess.
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September 13, 2021, 03:24:08 AM
I'm not sure if the Lakers will focus on 3 point shooting, I guess with the current lineup, they will take advantage of their size and they will bring the ball inside where the big 3 can drive. I know they have 3 point shooters too but are they consistent enough, or can be trusted to produce a good percentage of shot?
Yes, they might become an inside attacking team.
Regarding the outside shooting, they have Melo, Lebron, and AD. Rondo is also doing pretty well with his outside shots so I think they can use them for spacing.
We might not see much of how effective it will be for their first few games but with adjustments, it might work.
On the other hand, Brooklyn Nets is more focused on outside shots, I guess that's also why a hype is happening on what if both teams meet, who will win.
I am kind of excited too.

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September 13, 2021, 03:13:47 AM

I guess that minutes is too much for him, Westbrook and James could play his role, I'm not even sure if Westbrook would be able to play a PG position since Lebron is still here and we know ever since he became a Laker, he already play that PG position, despite his big.
Lebron james can play any rules Point Guard, center or side cause he is in average height he can adjust his given position. But some of his game he played as a Forward then he Carry his teammates to the victory .

I don't care what Lebron's position is written in the book, but he is really playing as a PG as he usually holds the ball. I have a feeling that Lebron will destroy Westbrook's triple-double consistency and I think even a double-double, Westbrook would still struggle as the lakers have a lot of bigs that could grab the rebounds unless they will intentionally give the rebound to Westbrook.

It is expected. Westbrook will most probably lose his triple double stats consistency, because he joined a super team where more than 2 players could dish like a pass-first point guard and another 2 who can dominantly grab rebounds.
The best thing Westbrook can do is to continue being an explosive point guard. Drive the lane and draw defenders and dish out to the spot up shooters.
If he can perfectly compliment LeBron and AD's style of play, they'll be a tough team to beat in the playoffs.

I'm not sure if the Lakers will focus on 3 point shooting, I guess with the current lineup, they will take advantage of their size and they will bring the ball inside where the big 3 can drive. I know they have 3 point shooters too but are they consistent enough, or can be trusted to produce a good percentage of shot?
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September 13, 2021, 02:23:49 AM
According to the article, I like their plan of changing position if necessary when Westbrook is on the floor. Lebron James moving from SF to Pf and Davis from PF to Center. And in terms of offense, Westbrook will just let Lebron or Davis initiate it as he's now used on it playing in the Houston Rockets alongside James Harden and Bradley Beal playing with the Washington Wizards.

If that was perfectly executed and not just written in the paper, Lakers' core is now complete and hard to deal with.
Yes, I also agree and this will be an advantage for the Lakers because there are many players who can easily play in various positions, for example LeBron James, he can easily play in, SG, SF and PF.

I'm sure, LeBron James with his experience will control Westbrook for him do not commit any reckless attitude during the games

because sometimes so he doesn't do any reckless actions.
to he doesn't do any reckless actions during the games.

I'm anxious to seeing the Lakers play in the future, let's see if the team has a chemistry, especially with this new trio (LeBron, AD and Westbrook),
By the way, I also believe that this combination could have the same level like Miami Heat trio in 2010 - 2014 (LeBron, Wade and Bosh)
Let's see if this new Lakers trio can be better than the Heat trio from a few seasons ago

This is good for Lebron James as Westbrook IMO has a better vision compared to him, it's my personal view only, you can oppose, and though Westbrook does not have a good shooting percentage, he sometimes calls the last shot, unlike Lebron as PG who would just past the ball. It will be the first time Lebron playing sa SF if this plan will be realize, so let's see.
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September 13, 2021, 01:53:42 AM
According to the article, I like their plan of changing position if necessary when Westbrook is on the floor. Lebron James moving from SF to Pf and Davis from PF to Center. And in terms of offense, Westbrook will just let Lebron or Davis initiate it as he's now used on it playing in the Houston Rockets alongside James Harden and Bradley Beal playing with the Washington Wizards.

If that was perfectly executed and not just written in the paper, Lakers' core is now complete and hard to deal with.
Yes, I also agree and this will be an advantage for the Lakers because there are many players who can easily play in various positions, for example LeBron James, he can easily play in, SG, SF and PF.

I'm sure, LeBron James with his experience will control Westbrook for him do not commit any reckless attitude during the games

because sometimes so he doesn't do any reckless actions.
to he doesn't do any reckless actions during the games.

I'm anxious to seeing the Lakers play in the future, let's see if the team has a chemistry, especially with this new trio (LeBron, AD and Westbrook),
By the way, I also believe that this combination could have the same level like Miami Heat trio in 2010 - 2014 (LeBron, Wade and Bosh)
Let's see if this new Lakers trio can be better than the Heat trio from a few seasons ago
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September 13, 2021, 12:40:18 AM
But that's a habit of him and it's not easy to take out that stat grabbing when you are used to it. He will still do it but I think he will be in control or Lebron will try to push and control him and avoid being reckless.

Yes, once a habit always a habit. Before Westbrook's arrival at the Los Angeles Lakers, he met with Lebron and Anthony Davis and talked about putting their egos aside and playing as one to bring the Lakers another NBA championship.

Russell Westbrook met with LeBron James, Anthony Davis weeks ago to discuss playing for Lakers,

According to the article, I like their plan of changing position if necessary when Westbrook is on the floor. Lebron James moving from SF to Pf and Davis from PF to Center. And in terms of offense, Westbrook will just let Lebron or Davis initiate it as he's now used on it playing in the Houston Rockets alongside James Harden and Bradley Beal playing with the Washington Wizards.

If that was perfectly executed and not just written in the paper, Lakers' core is now complete and hard to deal with.
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September 12, 2021, 10:19:40 PM
Wow. Lakers on hype again at this thread because of the signing of DJ.  Grin
Russell Westbrook will have the most playing time on the Lakers, even more compare to Lebron or Davis. Currently, he is the most athletic player in the team with good point guard skills. He is changed now and won't do any stat padding attempt.
But that's a habit of him and it's not easy to take out that stat grabbing when you are used to it. He will still do it but I think he will be in control or Lebron will try to push and control him and avoid being reckless.
I am not a fan of Lakers but I can see they stretched their defensive roster. Ariza, DJ, and Howard are good at it while Westbrook also has his good times. I think Coach Vogel will be more focused on that while their offense is already not a problem. Strengthen the weakness.
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September 12, 2021, 09:46:53 PM
Not trying to be rude here but your projected lineup will not happened hehe. Try to check the Lakers playing time distribution since Vogel handled the team. You can see veterans mostly in the bench. That lineup above my post will only be used mostly when either Lebron or Davis will be injured or sideline.

Russell Westbrook will have the most playing time on the Lakers, even more compare to Lebron or Davis. Currently, he is the most athletic player in the team with good point guard skills. He is changed now and won't do any stat padding attempt.
Sorry, but I partially agree with you....
Lakers have great players nowdays

I believe Vogel will make several combinations to create the best team possible!!!
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September 12, 2021, 08:51:54 PM
Not trying to be rude here but your projected lineup will not happened hehe. Try to check the Lakers playing time distribution since Vogel handled the team. You can see veterans mostly in the bench. That lineup above my post will only be used mostly when either Lebron or Davis will be injured or sideline.

Sure, those are just projected line-ups, we may see more combinations as well, as Vogel is known to experiment with different line up base on the complexion of the games.

Russell Westbrook will have the most playing time on the Lakers, even more compare to Lebron or Davis. Currently, he is the most athletic player in the team with good point guard skills. He is changed now and won't do any stat padding attempt.

He is still capable of playing 40 minutes just like what he did when he was in Wizards uniform. But with so many good players that can play multiple positions in Lakers uniform, maybe Westbrook could have less time, which is good as well as he is not getting any younger and last year he has a injury.
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September 12, 2021, 06:59:34 PM
Not trying to be rude here but your projected lineup will not happened hehe. Try to check the Lakers playing time distribution since Vogel handled the team. You can see veterans mostly in the bench. That lineup above my post will only be used mostly when either Lebron or Davis will be injured or sideline.

Russell Westbrook will have the most playing time on the Lakers, even more compare to Lebron or Davis. Currently, he is the most athletic player in the team with good point guard skills. He is changed now and won't do any stat padding attempt.
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September 12, 2021, 06:36:33 PM
DeAndre will just be another back up center with the Lakers, they already have Anthony Davis and then newly acquired Dwight Howard. Nothing personal though about acquiring DeAndre from Nets, they drop him so Lakers pick him up. And I don't think there is rivalry between the two, not right now, we will need to see them play first and developed this so called rivalry.
Hmm, okay, thanks for this information!
Well, I still imagined that Gasol could retire to the Grizzlies and not return to Spain. I have no doubts that in a few years he will be able to retire.

Yes, I agree exactly with that, DeAndre Jordan fits very well with the Lakers. I may be talking something nonsense, but depending on the situation, I believe DeAndre could be more useful than Howard in the Lakers.

If I have to list the roster for Lakers that makes sense.

PG : Westbrook / Rondo
SG : Monk / THT / Ellington / Nunn / Wesley Matthews , all these could play actually, but some of them will probably get a lot less minutes

SF : Lebron / Melo / Ariza / Bazemore
PF : AD (and Melo )
C  : Deandre Jordan / Howard ( and AD sometimes)

Can anyone really imagine that this team will not be champions if they stay healthy. I get that there are many times good teams end up losing because they have injured players, a team with Curry/Klay/Durant/Draymond/Cousins ended up losing to Toronto, all because GSW missed nearly all their players on that finals, it was lucky for Toronto. However if there is no big injuries then we are 100% going to see Lakers winning for sure.

Dude, honestly, I've analyzed this post of yours and I'm very impressed with the combinations the Lakers can do.
For example...

If DeAndre Jordan and Howard are in bad shape or maybe injured, the Lakers can make that lineup

C - AD will automatically turn to Center
PF - LeBron or Melo will be PF (depending on the situation)
SF - Ariza / LeBron or Melo
SG - Monk / THT others
PG - Russ or Rondo

If any of the SGs embezzle the team or they aren't playing well, one possibility could be

SG - LeBron or Russ
PG - Rondo
SF - Melo or Ariza
PF - AD
C - DeAndre or Howard

Amazingly, the Lakers can even make a new combination without their SG's and Centers depleted for example

PG - Rondo
SG - Russ / LeBron
SF - Melo / Ariza / Bazemore
PF - LeBron / Melo
C - AD

By the way, I even believe Ariza can play as an SG, although the team already has LeBron and Russ who can help in that area of ​​the team.

Basically the Lakers this season is a "wild" team there are possibilities to create different lineups against their opponents, for example, you can make the team much faster with Rondo, Russ, LeBron, Melo and AD.
If they are playing against a team that the players are short, they can assemble the team with Russ, LeBron, Melo, AD and DeAndre.

I believe that this season the Lakers have great chances to be champions, but we'll need to see what the chemistry between these players looks like during the regular season!
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September 12, 2021, 06:16:34 PM
Can anyone really imagine that this team will not be champions if they stay healthy. I get that there are many times good teams end up losing because they have injured players, a team with Curry/Klay/Durant/Draymond/Cousins ended up losing to Toronto, all because GSW missed nearly all their players on that finals, it was lucky for Toronto. However if there is no big injuries then we are 100% going to see Lakers winning for sure.


Don't based because of names. Most of players on that list is not in their prime anymore.

Lebron James, Russell Westbrook, Anthony Davis, Kendrick Nunn are the only players I see that we can expect to explode. Golden State Warriors main lineup is even ahead on that. Lakers are only ahead to most teams because of their good bench.

a team with Curry/Klay/Durant/Draymond/Cousins ended up losing to Toronto, all because GSW missed nearly all their players on that finals, it was lucky for Toronto.

That's not a lucky one. Phoenix Suns is the one more lucky I guess. Cheesy
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