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July 20, 2021, 06:30:12 AM
I was going to read this thread until I saw 68.2% votes think suns will win.

You need to back read, so that you will understand why the voters thinks that the Suns will win the NBA Finals for this year. It's not the majority are wrong, but the Suns has been playing good basketball beating the Lakers, then sweep the Nuggets and then the Clippers.

But the Bucks has also gone into a lot in this series, specially against the Nets. But even if they are leading, you can still see that the next game is still unpredictable. Others say that there might be a game 7, while there are Bucks fans who wishes for them to close the Suns in their home court and be the NBA champions after 50 years.

Phoenix surpasses its self and its limit by been to the NBA Finals. At the start of the season, I really doubt that someone expects them to be there. They also have a huge motive since they never get a ring. At least Bucks have won it once... Grin
IMO Bucks was and still is the favorite for winning the series, even if they lose Game 6. And as a basketball fan, I would prefer to see a 7 game... (sorry Giannis) Tongue Grin
The suns are the favorite to win the championship when they defeated the lakers and the clippers, also when they have an edge with a 2-0 lead over the bucks, but then the buck's rally to take a 3-2 lead in the series, which I think is the suns relax a bit if you will see in game 1 and 2 everyone is eager and is moving without the ball Cameron Payne also disappear from the picture which is a very big factor why they are in the finals, not just because of booker and paul, he is one of the key players if they really want to climb back for game 7.
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July 20, 2021, 06:15:13 AM
I was going to read this thread until I saw 68.2% votes think suns will win.

You need to back read, so that you will understand why the voters thinks that the Suns will win the NBA Finals for this year. It's not the majority are wrong, but the Suns has been playing good basketball beating the Lakers, then sweep the Nuggets and then the Clippers.

But the Bucks has also gone into a lot in this series, specially against the Nets. But even if they are leading, you can still see that the next game is still unpredictable. Others say that there might be a game 7, while there are Bucks fans who wishes for them to close the Suns in their home court and be the NBA champions after 50 years.

Phoenix surpasses its self and its limit by been to the NBA Finals. At the start of the season, I really doubt that someone expects them to be there. They also have a huge motive since they never get a ring. At least Bucks have won it once... Grin
IMO Bucks was and still is the favorite for winning the series, even if they lose Game 6. And as a basketball fan, I would prefer to see a 7 game... (sorry Giannis) Tongue Grin

They are really out of the picture when the season is starting up and the always talk about Lakers,Clippers,Bucks,Nuggets,Miami and Nets but surprisingly Suns really give a good show so even if they will lose to bucks on game 6 still its a big honor for them to reach that far since eventhough there rooster consist of young guys this season they still able manage to defeat those strong teams in the West.

Yeah Bucks is finals favorite winner so I think at this point they  will be the winner and Giannis will win the Finals MVP.
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July 20, 2021, 05:21:48 AM
I was going to read this thread until I saw 68.2% votes think suns will win.

You need to back read, so that you will understand why the voters thinks that the Suns will win the NBA Finals for this year. It's not the majority are wrong, but the Suns has been playing good basketball beating the Lakers, then sweep the Nuggets and then the Clippers.

But the Bucks has also gone into a lot in this series, specially against the Nets. But even if they are leading, you can still see that the next game is still unpredictable. Others say that there might be a game 7, while there are Bucks fans who wishes for them to close the Suns in their home court and be the NBA champions after 50 years.

Phoenix surpasses its self and its limit by been to the NBA Finals. At the start of the season, I really doubt that someone expects them to be there. They also have a huge motive since they never get a ring. At least Bucks have won it once... Grin
IMO Bucks was and still is the favorite for winning the series, even if they lose Game 6. And as a basketball fan, I would prefer to see a 7 game... (sorry Giannis) Tongue Grin
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July 20, 2021, 04:50:49 AM
I was going to read this thread until I saw 68.2% votes think suns will win.

You need to back read, so that you will understand why the voters thinks that the Suns will win the NBA Finals for this year. It's not the majority are wrong, but the Suns has been playing good basketball beating the Lakers, then sweep the Nuggets and then the Clippers.

But the Bucks has also gone into a lot in this series, specially against the Nets. But even if they are leading, you can still see that the next game is still unpredictable. Others say that there might be a game 7, while there are Bucks fans who wishes for them to close the Suns in their home court and be the NBA champions after 50 years.
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July 20, 2021, 03:26:05 AM
I was going to read this thread until I saw 68.2% votes think suns will win.
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July 20, 2021, 03:19:20 AM

The Suns might bounce back, however, consider the momentum is on the Buck’s side and also the Suns will play in the Buck’s home court. I reckon after this series we might see this as something written perfectly like a Buck’s story. You can call it luck but fortune is with the Bucks. Maximum bet that -5 hehehe.

The Suns are most likely to bounce back.
Though after winning 3 straight games, the Bucks is obviously in a winning momentum.
But, let's look at this way. The NBA has been heavily affected by the pandemic economically.
They'll probably reach this into a 7 game series. This playoff has been very unpredictable from the very beginning.
This is just my opinion anyway.
A game 7 will be most likely to be very unpredictable.
Lastly, the odds now is on the highest in this series, Suns with +5.5 and 1.81.
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July 20, 2021, 03:02:38 AM

The Suns might bounce back, however, consider the momentum is on the Buck’s side and also the Suns will play in the Buck’s home court. I reckon after this series we might see this as something written perfectly like a Buck’s story. You can call it luck but fortune is with the Bucks. Maximum bet that -5 hehehe.

All the edge is with the Bucks now, after finding that winning piece after game 4 and 5,

They are lucky enough to take this lead and have a better chance to take this series away from the Suns, we all don't know though what game 6 awaits, adjustments over adjustments and who's more hunger to win will succeed with it, last game for the Suns if they failed to win it over and pushed for the do or die game.
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July 20, 2021, 01:20:18 AM
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CP3 won't just give up a chance he had been working for throughout his career. Every possession will be a crucial one for him and I think he will downsize his turnovers here.

agree on this one, but Bucks are really close to a new title, they needed one away win, made it and now have clear situation at home
considering odds @1.5, it seems that Bucks are favorites from bookies side as well

what could be a decision maker tonight is more players that could decide a game in Bucks team, with at least three of them capable to score 30+ points regularly, Suns are pretty much one-man-show
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July 20, 2021, 12:57:28 AM
The Suns might bounce back, however, consider the momentum is on the Buck’s side and also the Suns will play in the Buck’s home court. I reckon after this series we might see this as something written perfectly like a Buck’s story. You can call it luck but fortune is with the Bucks. Maximum bet that -5 hehehe.
It's funny looking at the poll, the Suns mostly got our vote because of their performance during the Clippers game and then the first 2 win games against the Bucks. We really thought they will not end the winning streak but here goes the Bucks outperforming them.
I put a riskier bet at -6.5 because I think the Bucks would need a blowout game for a finishing strike. If it will just be a single digit deficit at 4th quarter an overtime will most likely to happen.
CP3 won't just give up a chance he had been working for throughout his career. Every possession will be a crucial one for him and I think he will downsize his turnovers here.
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July 19, 2021, 11:37:33 PM

I know that you are a big fan of Phoenix specially Ayton, but boy, Bucks really surprises us all with the huge come back win against them in their home court.

And numbers shows that >70% when a team leads 3-2, they will eventually become a champion. No doubt that Suns is a good team, but as you have said, Bucks is the better team and they may close them out in Fiserv and crown as the NBA champions.

Very unpredictable series, who knows Suns will able to bounce back and force this series to do or die finals.

We seen every much where bucks are just lucky to win, because of those unexpected mistakes from the Suns leading stars. But for sure the momentum is really high for this team and playing in front of your home crowd and the want to dedicate the success in front of your avid wild crowd.

The Suns might bounce back, however, consider the momentum is on the Buck’s side and also the Suns will play in the Buck’s home court. I reckon after this series we might see this as something written perfectly like a Buck’s story. You can call it luck but fortune is with the Bucks. Maximum bet that -5 hehehe.
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July 19, 2021, 08:35:35 PM
Of course it turns out to be very interesting, we have the OG Chris Paul and then the upcoming Booker who has that Mamba mentality. And then on the other side, it's Giannis at the peak of his career and the supporting cast of 2 Olympic bound players, Middleton and Holiday.

In the beginning the favoured to win is the Western Conference. But it seems that there will be a big upset here in this finals as the Bucks win 3 straight games, and Suns haven't lost back to back in this series. And the last time they lost 3 in a row was January.

What makes is boring initially is that they thought that the Phoenix Suns are going to sweep, based on their 2 straight wins. But the tide has change, Bucks has the momentum and will give everything next game so win the finals and end the drought of 50 years of winning again.
Had that prediction that you said. West will win it without a bang.
Sweep or just giving away 1 win as a gift to make it not look so bad. But it changed. I didn't expect the Bucks to play like this, with a purpose.
Winning against the Nets is no joke and I think they learned a lot with that experience then used it against the fast and offensive Suns.
Giannis is growing fast and this Bucks roster will be scary if kept. Chemistry + experience = more championships.
Even if you look at the polls, it was Phoenix who are the heavy favored team to win. But Bucks think otherwise, I think they have found the perfect combination with Giannis just about to hit his prime years and then Middleton and Holiday the next option if Giannis is not clicking.

Yeah, if this win here, they could go back to back, just saying. They are scary with Giannis ability and he is still a work in progress.
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July 19, 2021, 07:44:18 PM
Of course it turns out to be very interesting, we have the OG Chris Paul and then the upcoming Booker who has that Mamba mentality. And then on the other side, it's Giannis at the peak of his career and the supporting cast of 2 Olympic bound players, Middleton and Holiday.

In the beginning the favoured to win is the Western Conference. But it seems that there will be a big upset here in this finals as the Bucks win 3 straight games, and Suns haven't lost back to back in this series. And the last time they lost 3 in a row was January.

What makes is boring initially is that they thought that the Phoenix Suns are going to sweep, based on their 2 straight wins. But the tide has change, Bucks has the momentum and will give everything next game so win the finals and end the drought of 50 years of winning again.
Had that prediction that you said. West will win it without a bang.
Sweep or just giving away 1 win as a gift to make it not look so bad. But it changed. I didn't expect the Bucks to play like this, with a purpose.
Winning against the Nets is no joke and I think they learned a lot with that experience then used it against the fast and offensive Suns.
Giannis is growing fast and this Bucks roster will be scary if kept. Chemistry + experience = more championships.
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July 19, 2021, 07:35:50 PM
Game 5 was a close battle but what gave the Bucks the edge over Suns is that Holiday and Middleton finally stepped up their game and answered their critics. Before, it used to be a Giannis team but in game 5 we saw Bucks team spirit at its best in recent times. Those last minutes plays are what I love to see from a team. They gave their all and that helped them with a decisive win that put them in a better position to win the series. If Bucks can coordinate like they did in game 5 and win game 6, they'd be the champions. Otherwise, they'll just over CP3 and his guys the opportunity to get back on track.
Yes, exactly!!!
You can't imagine how anxious I am for tomorrow's game. The Suns will strive 110% to stay alive in the playoffs, and the Bucks just need one more win.
I confess that these NBA finals are very close and interesting.

Of course it turns out to be very interesting, we have the OG Chris Paul and then the upcoming Booker who has that Mamba mentality. And then on the other side, it's Giannis at the peak of his career and the supporting cast of 2 Olympic bound players, Middleton and Holiday.

In the beginning the favoured to win is the Western Conference. But it seems that there will be a big upset here in this finals as the Bucks win 3 straight games, and Suns haven't lost back to back in this series. And the last time they lost 3 in a row was January.

What makes is boring initially is that they thought that the Phoenix Suns are going to sweep, based on their 2 straight wins. But the tide has change, Bucks has the momentum and will give everything next game so win the finals and end the drought of 50 years of winning again.
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July 19, 2021, 06:55:54 PM
Game 5 was a close battle but what gave the Bucks the edge over Suns is that Holiday and Middleton finally stepped up their game and answered their critics. Before, it used to be a Giannis team but in game 5 we saw Bucks team spirit at its best in recent times. Those last minutes plays are what I love to see from a team. They gave their all and that helped them with a decisive win that put them in a better position to win the series. If Bucks can coordinate like they did in game 5 and win game 6, they'd be the champions. Otherwise, they'll just over CP3 and his guys the opportunity to get back on track.
Yes, exactly!!!
You can't imagine how anxious I am for tomorrow's game. The Suns will strive 110% to stay alive in the playoffs, and the Bucks just need one more win.
I confess that these NBA finals are very close and interesting.

What make this more exciting is both of them is capable to win that's  why every game is so interesting, So whoever win on game 6 they create a huge history on their franchise but for game 6 I want the Suns to win so that we can see another intense game 7 since it will be a more physical battle between suns  and bucks. But if bucks will finish this well their 1971 championship strive will be broke and Giannis will get all the credits for breaking their huge years hunger to win a title.
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July 19, 2021, 04:58:11 PM
Game 5 was a close battle but what gave the Bucks the edge over Suns is that Holiday and Middleton finally stepped up their game and answered their critics. Before, it used to be a Giannis team but in game 5 we saw Bucks team spirit at its best in recent times. Those last minutes plays are what I love to see from a team. They gave their all and that helped them with a decisive win that put them in a better position to win the series. If Bucks can coordinate like they did in game 5 and win game 6, they'd be the champions. Otherwise, they'll just over CP3 and his guys the opportunity to get back on track.
Yes, exactly!!!
You can't imagine how anxious I am for tomorrow's game. The Suns will strive 110% to stay alive in the playoffs, and the Bucks just need one more win.
I confess that these NBA finals are very close and interesting.
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July 19, 2021, 04:52:03 PM
Will the Bucks be NBA Champion in Game 6???

I stopped to analyze the statistics of the last game and realized that both teams were very good statistically
Suns 68.4% (3 points) - Bucks 50% (3 points)
Suns 8 Offensive Rebounds - Bucks 11 Offensive Rebounds
Suns 5 blocks - Bucks 1 blocks
(and others stats)

Analyzing these numbers, both teams did well, and the score was close.
Tuesday will be the game that can decide everything, the Bucks will have the advantage as they will play at home and if the Suns win Game 6, I believe they will have great chances to win Game 7 because they will play at home.

Game 5 was a close battle but what gave the Bucks the edge over Suns is that Holiday and Middleton finally stepped up their game and answered their critics. Before, it used to be a Giannis team but in game 5 we saw Bucks team spirit at its best in recent times. Those last minutes plays are what I love to see from a team. They gave their all and that helped them with a decisive win that put them in a better position to win the series. If Bucks can coordinate like they did in game 5 and win game 6, they'd be the champions. Otherwise, they'll just over CP3 and his guys the opportunity to get back on track.
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July 19, 2021, 04:39:56 PM
In terms of popularity it's not too off and college basketball donates nba viewership in a lot of sections of the US.  I dare you find someone who doesn't hear and see someone "March Madness" while half the country probably does t even know the NBA Finals is the Suns versus the Bucks or that it's game 6 coming up.  The purity of college basketball is starting to outshine the NBA.  It started with these super teams teaming up.
I'm sorry for intruding in this conversation, but in the country where I live, it started showing some NBA games years ago (on the open and paid channel), and nowadays, as the number of fans in this sport increases, some channels are even showing NCAA games, mainly March Madness.
Both leagues is very interesting to watch.
If in the country where I live the favorite sport is soccer and basketball it is already such a success, imagine in the USA or Canada? is much bigger
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July 19, 2021, 04:17:09 PM
By the looks of it Bucks vs Suns thing is getting a bit more like a given up thing at this point, most of my friends that like to watch and follow NBA do not even care about the finals right now. Think about it the next game is literally the finals of the whole NBA and maybe will decide on the champions and they are still not caring. I do not know what the reason for this could be but it is obvious that NBA became something  very boring in the past few years for sure, no idea what could be my excuse but I know my friends just think that it is boring.

If NBA doesn't step up and do something, I am pretty sure that they are going to end up losing a lot more customers as well. Viewership numbers shows this as well, they have been rapidly dropping for the past 2-3 seasons and unless NBA does something to improve and get the attention again, we could see NBA not having this much attention anymore.

It's getting to be a 3 point show and talent has declined in recent times as well.  No one plays defense unless it's the last 2 minutes of the game.  College basketball is phenomenal because it is played like a team and for the love of the game.  I would recommend your friends pick up college basketball it is much better tv.

Fans also evolve, I mean, as the basketball style change in NBA, fans starting to accept it as well, unless you witness the old style and you think the old is a better one. For now, comparing NBA to college basketball, the majority would prefer to watch NBA as these college player's ambition is to get drafted in the NBA.

In terms of popularity it's not too off and college basketball donates nba viewership in a lot of sections of the US.  I dare you find someone who doesn't hear and see someone "March Madness" while half the country probably does t even know the NBA Finals is the Suns versus the Bucks or that it's game 6 coming up.  The purity of college basketball is starting to outshine the NBA.  It started with these super teams teaming up.
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July 19, 2021, 04:10:49 PM
I agree with you that home court has been a major factor in this series, except of course Game 5 when it was a toss up and I think Booker just flat our drove to the lane thinking score and struggled to gather the ball then Jrue strips it and the rest is history. Are Bucks going to win the championship? I think they will. This has flipped into the "Giannis" series and I think his energy has already rubbed into Middleton and Jrue in these past few games. I think they already figure out the recipe for all three of their stars to be produce and be effective in this series vs. Phoenix.

For Phoenix, CP3 and Ayton had been inconsistent and you can really see sometimes that it's only Devin Booker who's really engaged and determined to score the ball. Ayton is focused on rebounding and CP3 is focused on playmaking, but I really think Booker really needs help from Bridges or someone else other than him to score the ball. Game 6 is going to be tough because Milwaukee is going to have home court and all pressure is now on the Suns.
Yes, exactly, you reminded me in a very interesting point, if Giannis Antetokounmpo is not playing well, Middleton or Jrue will play for him and they will take over the leadership of the team.

Talking about Ayton or CP3, I see that Chris Paul was the most inconsistent (unfortunately), probably because of his age (36 years old) and he doesn't have the same physical preparation as the others players.
Playoffs are totally different games from the regular season, it is acceptable for some new players (like Booker, CP3 and others) not to play well, as they are inexperienced.

@gagux123. I reckon statistics are more useful for the regular season because all the same teams play every other same team for many months. Playoff basketball is more unpredictable where a not very good team can have the momentum and win the series. Lakers and Clippers for this season’s playoff.
I said this in order to analyze the game in isolation. I saw  the Suns and Bucks had similar numbers, and even played well, but the Bucks had an advantage.
That's true, I confess that in the playoffs anything can happen, and that's when we separate the men from the boys.

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July 19, 2021, 03:23:37 PM
By the looks of it Bucks vs Suns thing is getting a bit more like a given up thing at this point, most of my friends that like to watch and follow NBA do not even care about the finals right now. Think about it the next game is literally the finals of the whole NBA and maybe will decide on the champions and they are still not caring. I do not know what the reason for this could be but it is obvious that NBA became something  very boring in the past few years for sure, no idea what could be my excuse but I know my friends just think that it is boring.

If NBA doesn't step up and do something, I am pretty sure that they are going to end up losing a lot more customers as well. Viewership numbers shows this as well, they have been rapidly dropping for the past 2-3 seasons and unless NBA does something to improve and get the attention again, we could see NBA not having this much attention anymore.

Some people would not appreciate the game but most will certainly love this finals Match up, we are used to seeing the GSW and Lakers going into the Finals and the NBA Finals ends in 4 to 5 games only because the other team is very strong, this match is very interesting because they came from behind, they are not even the favorites to win the NBA championship and yet they are here now.

How do you think the NBA to step up?

And please share some sources saying that the viewership has dropped compared to the previous years.
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