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Quote from: Reid on December 17, 2020, 12:13:39 PM

Quote from: Botnake on December 17, 2020, 02:23:48 AM

Which means he needs to improve, unfortunately, Giannis is not a good ball handler, he doesn't have the skills like Lebron James who can play as PG. Giannis best chance to be efficient inside the court is to master his 3 point shooting, because if not, he will be so easy to predict.

I think he is already improved. What he need is a good partner with high chemistry.

Correct. He's already improved. If it's about 3 point shooting, should not be include on his "skill to improve" since after all, like I mentioned, it's not his main forte' unlike the likes of LBJ, Durant etc. It's like saying, he's the only one who needs to adjust for the whole Milwaukee Bucks team.

He is already surrounded by a good role players but still lacking. Either someone from his teammates will step up or Bucks should just continue to acquire role players until they nailed a right tandem/s paired with Giannis.

Quote from: Reid on December 17, 2020, 12:13:39 PM

This is the reason why I keep on looking at D.J. Augustin's moves. Will he be the right partner for Giannis?

Let's see. It's no doubt that Bucks is lacking of a good playmaker. An aggressive Giannis should be partnered with a good playmaker.

Currently, Jrue Holiday is their starting PG and DJ Augustin is their 2nd option.

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It is obvious that game is moving towards three point shots, which means either Giannis needs to be shooting a lot more threes, or you need to at least cover him with 4 other players who are superb shooters. Normally they picked brook lopez back in the day because he was a great shooter and I understand that move, and middleton is a fine shooter as well, but they need a lot more those type of players everywhere around the court.

Or just give Giannis the coach Blake Griffin got, dude wasn't a shooter back in the day but worked out with a trainer for a whole summer and when he came back he was suddenly a decent shooter. Having Giannis take that kind of off-season would mean he could turn into a 35%+ level three point shooter and if he ever reaches that level, he would be unstoppable.

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Quote from: Rosilito on December 16, 2020, 12:41:21 PM

I'm wondering what sort of changes he does need to make 'bout his gameplay Huh

. More shots from down town? It just seem that he's already at his peak.

Although he has got some unique abilities like how he mastered the euro step and other moves, he has a need to get some good advice from the veteran players to improve more his play to be one of the players who can bring his team into the NBA finals. like how the young players used to get some words of wisdom from Kobe and Michael Jordan.

https://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2016/11/1/13493618/la-lakers-kobe-bryant-shares-the-advice-he-gives-to-younger-players

I guess the only thing he is missing is the support from necessary key players to play with him. He got the skills to at least create situations to score or even score it by himself. D'Angelo Russell must really get enough playing time if he wants to prove himself again but that last injury he sustained will really scare you since it might result to dislocations of bones which is really hard to come back from once you get that types of injuries. We will surely see some highlights from him in the upcoming season specially playing with Towns and Rubio.

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Quote from: Botnake on December 17, 2020, 02:23:48 AM

Which means he needs to improve, unfortunately, Giannis is not a good ball handler, he doesn't have the skills like Lebron James who can play as PG. Giannis best chance to be efficient inside the court is to master his 3 point shooting, because if not, he will be so easy to predict.

He's tall that is why it will be difficult for him to handle the ball.
It can be easily stolen by small defenders.

I think he is already improved. What he need is a good partner with high chemistry.
Remember Steve Nash and Amar'e Stoudemire before?
That was a hell of a tandem with high chemistry.
Stoudemire doesn't need to handle the ball but just runs to the paint.
How about Jokic and Murray?
This is the reason why I keep on looking at D.J. Augustin's moves. Will he be the right partner for Giannis?

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Quote from: Pamadar on December 17, 2020, 01:21:13 AM

Quote from: Reid on December 16, 2020, 11:57:38 PM

Quote from: harizen on December 16, 2020, 04:47:13 PM

I don't know what's the other plan of Milwaukee Bucks. Taking care and securing Giannis is useless if they will not look at the branches to support the tree. They are literally choking every playoff. They should at least learn about what things they are lacking since the Raptors shutdown Giannis in their 2019 playoffs match.

What could be missing?
Veteran support?
I want to see if DJ Augustin can maximize the skills of Giannis. I mean, he is the playmaker and should be in sync with every player on the floor.
If he could successfully perfect plays that are meant to strengthen their offense then I bet they could win a championship.
With Jrue, DiVincenzo, and Middleton as wingmen, it should be an easy task to spread the floor leaving them free to shoot the three or attack the paint.
A lot of options now, the ball doesn't need to stay with Giannis just to make a turnover.

Ginanis needs to learn how to maximize every players that he have inside the court.

He needs to act as a leader and be like Lebron or KD, not just poweing himself inside but be matured enough to create space and help his teammates to bring out something from their individual skills, it's too early to judge out this new rotations that they've got, preseason is just a blending part while waiting for the regular one. Hope this time they'll be able to get their way to the finals.

Which means he needs to improve, unfortunately, Giannis is not a good ball handler, he doesn't have the skills like Lebron James who can play as PG. Giannis best chance to be efficient inside the court is to master his 3 point shooting, because if not, he will be so easy to predict.

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Quote from: Reid on December 16, 2020, 11:57:38 PM

Quote from: harizen on December 16, 2020, 04:47:13 PM

I don't know what's the other plan of Milwaukee Bucks. Taking care and securing Giannis is useless if they will not look at the branches to support the tree. They are literally choking every playoff. They should at least learn about what things they are lacking since the Raptors shutdown Giannis in their 2019 playoffs match.

What could be missing?
Veteran support?
I want to see if DJ Augustin can maximize the skills of Giannis. I mean, he is the playmaker and should be in sync with every player on the floor.
If he could successfully perfect plays that are meant to strengthen their offense then I bet they could win a championship.
With Jrue, DiVincenzo, and Middleton as wingmen, it should be an easy task to spread the floor leaving them free to shoot the three or attack the paint.
A lot of options now, the ball doesn't need to stay with Giannis just to make a turnover.

Ginanis needs to learn how to maximize every players that he have inside the court.

He needs to act as a leader and be like Lebron or KD, not just poweing himself inside but be matured enough to create space and help his teammates to bring out something from their individual skills, it's too early to judge out this new rotations that they've got, preseason is just a blending part while waiting for the regular one. Hope this time they'll be able to get their way to the finals.

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Quote from: harizen on December 16, 2020, 04:47:13 PM

I don't know what's the other plan of Milwaukee Bucks. Taking care and securing Giannis is useless if they will not look at the branches to support the tree. They are literally choking every playoff. They should at least learn about what things they are lacking since the Raptors shutdown Giannis in their 2019 playoffs match.

What could be missing?
Veteran support?
I want to see if DJ Augustin can maximize the skills of Giannis. I mean, he is the playmaker and should be in sync with every player on the floor.
If he could successfully perfect plays that are meant to strengthen their offense then I bet they could win a championship.
With Jrue, DiVincenzo, and Middleton as wingmen, it should be an easy task to spread the floor leaving them free to shoot the three or attack the paint.
A lot of options now, the ball doesn't need to stay with Giannis just to make a turnover.

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Quote from: Rosilito on December 16, 2020, 12:41:21 PM

I'm wondering what sort of changes he does need to make 'bout his gameplay Huh

. More shots from down town? It just seem that he's already at his peak.

Although he has got some unique abilities like how he mastered the euro step and other moves, he has a need to get some good advice from the veteran players to improve more his play to be one of the players who can bring his team into the NBA finals. like how the young players used to get some words of wisdom from Kobe and Michael Jordan.

https://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2016/11/1/13493618/la-lakers-kobe-bryant-shares-the-advice-he-gives-to-younger-players

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Quote from: Botnake on December 15, 2020, 06:02:18 PM

https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/nba/bucks/2020/12/15/giannis-antetokounmpo-signs-supermax-milwaukee-bucks/3843891001/

He will signed a supermax deal with the Bucks, I doubt if he will be traded even if the team will fall short this season.
The coaching staff has to be replace I guess, I think that's the first thing they have to do, just like what they did with the Clippers.

Players are not usually the problem, it's the coaching IMO.

This is a beast contract.

Bucks should also invest in another player that can help Giannis to strive the team into the finals. This is a huge investment for the Bucks although it's the home team where Giannis have been known.

I wish them luck after this preseason.

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Lakers will probably focus on defense but they also prepare for offense as well, they do not just have one offensive scheme they use for every game, they are usually ready with a new offense for each team, they find their weak spot and attack there.

Having a team that is mainly defensive these days is not a fresh deal, everyone talks about how Warriors were amazing offensively and that is how they won a championship but look at their defensive stats on the years they became champions, you will realize that they were amazing defensively as well; which is why I think a team that has superstars but also focuses on defense will usually win the title. That is why Clippers were seen as the best team last year, since they had PG13 and Kawhi who were amazing defensively.

Lots had anticipated that LAC would be seen in finals but what happened? Even with Bucks too and other powerhouse teams. We didnt even anticipate that Heat will able to break and
push though the finals where most people doesnt really care that much about this one but rather focuses into those team which had some superstars.

Lakers is both good in defense and offence.I would rather see on enhancing their rhythm and passing side to lessen up their turnover mistakes.

Now that other teams had different roster then lets see if they can still retain into their current the same line-up.

Heat will remain an underrated team, they reach the NBA Finals but they didn't give the Lakers a good series, I mean, Lakers just dominated them and end the series in game 6. The favorites in the East now are the Nets since KD and Durant is back while Heat stays on the same line up, they may go to playoffs again but they might not enter in the NBA Finals.

Game 6 doesnt give out a good series? We can say up those words if we do see 4-0 but we did see that they made out some good fight and trying to push until game 7 but it was a bit short.

Yes, they are underrated and majority didnt expect for them to reach that far until to the finals.I agree into your words that now that those superstars are back on the floor
which would really be giving out different story but doesnt mean we should underestimate Heat this time.We dont know that each team
are making some adjustments now based of on what they did lack in previous season.

Actually people think heat is not a big threat as at the start they didn't think that they can beat the Lakers, Heat weren't even expected to be in the NBA Finals, IIRC, the favorites that time was the Bucks and the Celtics, and yet they beat them all.

If we compare the series between the Lakers and the heat vs the Heat and the Celtics.
I believe the Heat vs Celtics series was more entertaining although it also end in game 6 because people were thinking it's an even match.

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Quote from: Botnake on December 16, 2020, 05:28:03 PM

Quote from: stomachgrowls on December 16, 2020, 05:07:48 PM

Quote from: TheGreatPython on December 16, 2020, 11:12:18 AM

Lakers will probably focus on defense but they also prepare for offense as well, they do not just have one offensive scheme they use for every game, they are usually ready with a new offense for each team, they find their weak spot and attack there.

Having a team that is mainly defensive these days is not a fresh deal, everyone talks about how Warriors were amazing offensively and that is how they won a championship but look at their defensive stats on the years they became champions, you will realize that they were amazing defensively as well; which is why I think a team that has superstars but also focuses on defense will usually win the title. That is why Clippers were seen as the best team last year, since they had PG13 and Kawhi who were amazing defensively.

Lots had anticipated that LAC would be seen in finals but what happened? Even with Bucks too and other powerhouse teams. We didnt even anticipate that Heat will able to break and
push though the finals where most people doesnt really care that much about this one but rather focuses into those team which had some superstars.

Lakers is both good in defense and offence.I would rather see on enhancing their rhythm and passing side to lessen up their turnover mistakes.

Now that other teams had different roster then lets see if they can still retain into their current the same line-up.

Heat will remain an underrated team, they reach the NBA Finals but they didn't give the Lakers a good series, I mean, Lakers just dominated them and end the series in game 6. The favorites in the East now are the Nets since KD and Durant is back while Heat stays on the same line up, they may go to playoffs again but they might not enter in the NBA Finals.

Game 6 doesnt give out a good series? We can say up those words if we do see 4-0 but we did see that they made out some good fight and trying to push until game 7 but it was a bit short.

Yes, they are underrated and majority didnt expect for them to reach that far until to the finals.I agree into your words that now that those superstars are back on the floor
which would really be giving out different story but doesnt mean we should underestimate Heat this time.We dont know that each team
are making some adjustments now based of on what they did lack in previous season.

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Quote from: stomachgrowls on December 16, 2020, 05:07:48 PM

Quote from: TheGreatPython on December 16, 2020, 11:12:18 AM

Lakers will probably focus on defense but they also prepare for offense as well, they do not just have one offensive scheme they use for every game, they are usually ready with a new offense for each team, they find their weak spot and attack there.

Having a team that is mainly defensive these days is not a fresh deal, everyone talks about how Warriors were amazing offensively and that is how they won a championship but look at their defensive stats on the years they became champions, you will realize that they were amazing defensively as well; which is why I think a team that has superstars but also focuses on defense will usually win the title. That is why Clippers were seen as the best team last year, since they had PG13 and Kawhi who were amazing defensively.

Lots had anticipated that LAC would be seen in finals but what happened? Even with Bucks too and other powerhouse teams. We didnt even anticipate that Heat will able to break and
push though the finals where most people doesnt really care that much about this one but rather focuses into those team which had some superstars.

Lakers is both good in defense and offence.I would rather see on enhancing their rhythm and passing side to lessen up their turnover mistakes.

Now that other teams had different roster then lets see if they can still retain into their current the same line-up.

Heat will remain an underrated team, they reach the NBA Finals but they didn't give the Lakers a good series, I mean, Lakers just dominated them and end the series in game 6. The favorites in the East now are the Nets since KD and Durant is back while Heat stays on the same line up, they may go to playoffs again but they might not enter in the NBA Finals.

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Quote from: TheGreatPython on December 16, 2020, 11:12:18 AM

Lakers will probably focus on defense but they also prepare for offense as well, they do not just have one offensive scheme they use for every game, they are usually ready with a new offense for each team, they find their weak spot and attack there.

Having a team that is mainly defensive these days is not a fresh deal, everyone talks about how Warriors were amazing offensively and that is how they won a championship but look at their defensive stats on the years they became champions, you will realize that they were amazing defensively as well; which is why I think a team that has superstars but also focuses on defense will usually win the title. That is why Clippers were seen as the best team last year, since they had PG13 and Kawhi who were amazing defensively.

Lots had anticipated that LAC would be seen in finals but what happened? Even with Bucks too and other powerhouse teams. We didnt even anticipate that Heat will able to break and
push though the finals where most people doesnt really care that much about this one but rather focuses into those team which had some superstars.

Lakers is both good in defense and offence.I would rather see on enhancing their rhythm and passing side to lessen up their turnover mistakes.

Now that other teams had different roster then lets see if they can still retain into their current the same line-up.

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Quote from: Rosilito on December 16, 2020, 12:41:21 PM

I'm wondering what sort of changes he does need to make 'bout his gameplay Huh

. More shots from down town? It just seem that he's already at his peak.

Agree. Whatever development he can gain while he progresses, even shooting lots from the downtown, without consistent support from his teammate, it will be hard work to acquired the Larry O'Brien trophy.

We can't compare him to LBJ that can carry an average team*** because their main forte' is different. Giannis is not that perimeter shooter that's why he needs to be partnered with good role players (although in my own view, he is already surrounded with good role players since then but I don't know why they are still struggling during playoffs).

I don't know what's the other plan of Milwaukee Bucks. Taking care and securing Giannis is useless if they will not look at the branches to support the tree. They are literally choking every playoff. They should at least learn about what things they are lacking since the Raptors shutdown Giannis in their 2019 playoffs match.

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Probably the last season of Giannis in a Bucks jersey if they will come up again short this season. Cheesy

https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/nba/bucks/2020/12/15/giannis-antetokounmpo-signs-supermax-milwaukee-bucks/3843891001/

He will signed a supermax deal with the Bucks, I doubt if he will be traded even if the team will fall short this season.
The coaching staff has to be replace I guess, I think that's the first thing they have to do, just like what they did with the Clippers.

Players are not usually the problem, it's the coaching IMO.

Let's wait for Giannis decision, I'm not sure why he is still not signing that dotted line though. But he has a super max contract on the table, and just waiting for the final day before officially accepting it. But then again, Giannis should really bring the Bucks to the finals, that's all great players do. Maybe he just needed another superstar in the team.

But if he failed again this year, I think the coach head are going to be roll and then maybe we will see another set of trades to acquire another superstar to help Giannis bring Bucks the championship.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/30526147/giannis-antetokounmpo-milwaukee-bucks-reach-five-year-228m-supermax-extension

Well there it is. Seems as though the cards are in place now that he is committed Bucks have to be all in. These next coue years are crucial for their franchise since now they gave up a ton of picks.

They bet so much for Giannis that's why their future mostly depends on the development of Giannis, however if they will be tired and still failing to get in the NBA Finals, I think they can still use Giannis to acquire a another superstar to lead the team and that is by trading him, they just have to ensure that Giannis will remain healthy so his value will not go down.

Ypu don't trade giannis for another star. He is the guy you would want to trade for to begin with lol. Honestly if they can't get it done with him, they aren't going to be able to get it done without him. He is top 3 in the league right now and will be a perennial mvp every year.

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Quote from: yazher on December 16, 2020, 07:26:06 AM

Quote from: Natalim on December 16, 2020, 04:24:21 AM

They bet so much for Giannis that's why their future mostly depends on the development of Giannis, however if they will be tired and still failing to get in the NBA Finals, I think they can still use Giannis to acquire a another superstar to lead the team and that is by trading him, they just have to ensure that Giannis will remain healthy so his value will not go down.

That's how it is going for him and I think if they can land another good support for him, their team can be competitive not only in the playoffs but finals are possible too.

Yeah, that might be it. I still think that Jrue Holiday isn't enough, but then again it is still pre-season though Grin

. There are still plenty of rooms for improvement or I'd say, 'adjustments'. Who knows that these two might dominate the league later on lol Tongue

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Quote from: yazher on December 16, 2020, 07:26:06 AM

He needs to change his game by practice some new skills cause if he shows the same play in the NBA playoffs this upcoming season he may end up losing the playoffs again and lose their chance to get in the finals.

I'm wondering what sort of changes he does need to make 'bout his gameplay Huh

. More shots from down town? It just seem that he's already at his peak.

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Lakers will probably focus on defense but they also prepare for offense as well, they do not just have one offensive scheme they use for every game, they are usually ready with a new offense for each team, they find their weak spot and attack there.

Having a team that is mainly defensive these days is not a fresh deal, everyone talks about how Warriors were amazing offensively and that is how they won a championship but look at their defensive stats on the years they became champions, you will realize that they were amazing defensively as well; which is why I think a team that has superstars but also focuses on defense will usually win the title. That is why Clippers were seen as the best team last year, since they had PG13 and Kawhi who were amazing defensively.

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Quote from: lebregone on December 15, 2020, 04:24:38 PM

I wonder if the Lakers can still depend their title and win a back to back championship this coming 2021 season knowing that there are no big changes in their line up.
I am not really putting too much money in pre season games but maybe I will try to change my style especially if there are good odds that I can see in the upcoming games.

They will not. Because they traded Danny Green. Grin

Just kidding.
But, if they do lose this season then it proves that Green is a lucky charm. Grin

Lakers roster is still strong. Adding Harrell and Schroder is a good move by their management.
I think now they want to compliment Frank Vogel's specialization which is "defense".
Let Davis and Bron focus on making plays for offense.

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Quote from: goinmerry on December 15, 2020, 05:37:25 PM

Probably the last season of Giannis in a Bucks jersey if they will come up again short this season. Cheesy

https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/nba/bucks/2020/12/15/giannis-antetokounmpo-signs-supermax-milwaukee-bucks/3843891001/

He will signed a supermax deal with the Bucks, I doubt if he will be traded even if the team will fall short this season.
The coaching staff has to be replace I guess, I think that's the first thing they have to do, just like what they did with the Clippers.

Players are not usually the problem, it's the coaching IMO.

Let's wait for Giannis decision, I'm not sure why he is still not signing that dotted line though. But he has a super max contract on the table, and just waiting for the final day before officially accepting it. But then again, Giannis should really bring the Bucks to the finals, that's all great players do. Maybe he just needed another superstar in the team.

But if he failed again this year, I think the coach head are going to be roll and then maybe we will see another set of trades to acquire another superstar to help Giannis bring Bucks the championship.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/30526147/giannis-antetokounmpo-milwaukee-bucks-reach-five-year-228m-supermax-extension

Well there it is. Seems as though the cards are in place now that he is committed Bucks have to be all in. These next coue years are crucial for their franchise since now they gave up a ton of picks.

They bet so much for Giannis that's why their future mostly depends on the development of Giannis, however if they will be tired and still failing to get in the NBA Finals, I think they can still use Giannis to acquire a another superstar to lead the team and that is by trading him, they just have to ensure that Giannis will remain healthy so his value will not go down.

Good decision for Giannis, now in the next year or so I'm sure that he will do everything to get the Bucks into the Finals or at least get a ring with them. Of course, if all went south, they can used his contract as leverage in exchange of a big star to replace him. But that's too early to conclude, however, I would say that there could be some missing pieces to be a force to reckon in the East and become a championship contender.

I think even last season and today's season, Bucks is one of the most contender in east because of its plays and dedication. It might be true that thou they are not that what you called super team, still last season they manage to get into the top with their own beliefs. I agree that bucks might need some key players that will make them more likely different and 101% sure play-offs contender. They might be again make it to the top this time and might be one of the teams in the Finals. But I guess Bucks need some strategic defense and offsense. They are good in any means but tha lack of teamwork and strategy sometimes makes them bluff. I guess this year as Gianiss won 2x MVP of the Year they will aware and make some changes in their team. Rooting for Bucks in the Finals but I will always root for GSW to be champs.

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