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February 09, 2025, 09:49:07 PM
Lakers are saying the NBA rescinded the Mark Williams trade! Oh man… That would have been quite a steal for the Lakers, instead it’s a tough break.

Homestly i dont even think it was that big a steal.  Dude never plays.  Its like mitchell robinson on the knicks, when he plays he is awesome and a firce on defense/lobs but its actually getting them on the court.  I guess lakers have to scour the buyout market for center help.  They gutted their paint defense which usually doesnt play oit well in the playoffs.

It's a steal for them because they needed a big man and it seems that Williams is a perfect fight for them. Although they had Hayes as their center, it seems that Jaxson lacks the experience, although I see him as a work in progress if he will be given enough time to blossom as their main center.

I heard before that they are pursuing Vucevic but obviously they stop when they think that they have lock-in for Williams. Unfortunately, it didn't go as plan by the Lakers so they will have to make the adjustment again and stay with Hayes for now.
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February 09, 2025, 09:39:57 PM
I had a really good chat with a guy when I went out last night at a pizza pub.  We were talking about the blockbuster Luca trade.  We were talking about what a freak of nature Lebron is, and how well he takes care of his body.  My guess is Luca was traded because of not staying in shape/injury concerns but what we were thinking is there is no way Lebron doesn't start getting on him and being a positive influence on how to start better preparing his body and all that.  So I think his game is really going to go to another level..but this is just "our" theory.

I also have the same thoughts, if there will be a player that can influence Luka to keep his body in shape, that could be no less than Lebron James who has been playing for 20 years and keep his body on top.

So just imagine if Luka would have the 10% of Lebron's mindset when it comes to their physical body, who knows, maybe he can also stay in the league for many years and could bring a championship all together.
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February 09, 2025, 06:14:59 PM
Lakers are saying the NBA rescinded the Mark Williams trade! Oh man… That would have been quite a steal for the Lakers, instead it’s a tough break.

Homestly i dont even think it was that big a steal.  Dude never plays.  Its like mitchell robinson on the knicks, when he plays he is awesome and a firce on defense/lobs but its actually getting them on the court.  I guess lakers have to scour the buyout market for center help.  They gutted their paint defense which usually doesnt play oit well in the playoffs.

But when this trade fails they don't have enough spot to get some player from buyout market. I think they need to waived one player to open a spot so that they could get a player. Many say that they could sign Howard back to their team since he provably could contribute defensively for their team.

But we don't know if Lakers would do that or they will just settle up on their current roster then just used their current centers available to explore things on their rotation. Many Lakers fans are so hype with those information that they would get Williams on this trade, but those expectation cut off when the trade didn't happen due to some issues happened.
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February 09, 2025, 04:07:38 PM
I had a really good chat with a guy when I went out last night at a pizza pub.  We were talking about the blockbuster Luca trade.  We were talking about what a freak of nature Lebron is, and how well he takes care of his body.  My guess is Luca was traded because of not staying in shape/injury concerns but what we were thinking is there is no way Lebron doesn't start getting on him and being a positive influence on how to start better preparing his body and all that.  So I think his game is really going to go to another level..but this is just "our" theory.
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February 09, 2025, 03:59:08 PM
Lakers must be upset that the Mark Williams trade didn't go through, after all they were not only expecting to see him at Center, but also they believed it would be good to add another free agent as well. So it wasn't just about the Mark Williams himself, which would have ben a great addition of course, but it would have been about adding another vet minimum player, there were talks about Lonnie Walker for example. In any case, we just have to realize that Lakers will have to do with who they have right now.

I think they are upset that that Hornets didn't declare everything to them, and so with they physically evaluate Mark Wiliams, they have found out about his injuries that's why the called the trade off. Yes, everyone was praising that Rob did a good job getting him to the Lakers. Perhaps if they did have all the data before the deadline, they could have pursue other mid level centers are well.

Plus, Luka is very young, so if Lebron who just recently had an insane dunk at 40 years old while also scoring 40+ points, could wait for one more season, I am sure even if they fail this year, they could build a good team around these two next season and make them a lot better. They just have to wait, and I am sure good things will come.

Let's see if this is the passing of the torch, and Luka carrying the franchise. We will need to see how the two are going to blend in and if the marriage is successful, then maybe Luka will stay with the Lakers as he is still very young. Hopefully the mentality of Lebron about getting healthy will trickle down to Luka and maybe we will see him getting slim to his fighting weight of around 220 lbs as there are reports that he balloon to almost 270 lbs.
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February 09, 2025, 03:49:42 PM
Lakers are saying the NBA rescinded the Mark Williams trade! Oh man… That would have been quite a steal for the Lakers, instead it’s a tough break.

Homestly i dont even think it was that big a steal.  Dude never plays.  Its like mitchell robinson on the knicks, when he plays he is awesome and a firce on defense/lobs but its actually getting them on the court.  I guess lakers have to scour the buyout market for center help.  They gutted their paint defense which usually doesnt play oit well in the playoffs.
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February 09, 2025, 01:14:24 PM
Lakers are saying the NBA rescinded the Mark Williams trade! Oh man… That would have been quite a steal for the Lakers, instead it’s a tough break.

And then AD playing with the Mavs, he was doing great then suddenly another tough break for them as he looks like he got injured. And this is what we don't like to see on Davis although it looks like it' not that serious though, maybe he just reinjured an old abdominal muscle.

So Mark Williams failed the physical test with the Lakers, not surprised though as he has been injured before. Not sure though what will happen to the Lakers players that they send to the Hornets. But I think since the trade is voided, Dalton Knecht, Cam Reddish will be back to the Lakers as well for the meantime.

Yeah, Lakers get both Dalton Knecht and Reddish back, I believe the Lakers failing Mark Williams was a way to say they know the value of what they’re sending the other way and since Mark Williams was just going to be another bother then why go ahead with it. I wonder if the trade wasn’t just rather to late into the deadline maybe Lakers could have traded for veteran bigs like Valanciuanas or Nurkic that were surplus to requirements in their respective teams.
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February 09, 2025, 12:34:52 PM
Warriors did look quite different from one half to another. Being down 24+ points in the game, and then winning by 20+ points is a huge huge turn around. We have seen plenty of games where teams are down 20 points or more and make a comeback, but usually that come back doesn't really result with a 20+ point lead eventually, we do not see a 40+ and even nearly 50+ point swing from one side to another. Not that it would be unheard of, I am sure that did happen before many times, but it is also not common neither.

This is why it was a different feeling to see something like this. I am guessing that we are going to probably end up seeing the four players, Curry + Hield + Butler + Draymond play more together. And the more they get used to each other, the better they will become.
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February 09, 2025, 09:08:15 AM

Plus, Luka is very young, so if Lebron who just recently had an insane dunk at 40 years old while also scoring 40+ points, could wait for one more season, I am sure even if they fail this year, they could build a good team around these two next season and make them a lot better. They just have to wait, and I am sure good things will come.

They already have AR15 which is a great help with Luka even if LeBron will retire soon, I doubt that LeBron can be consistent with that kind of performance due to his age and I believe he will just choose the support role just like what he did before when Luka play already.

Dominating the 3 point line and perimeter shots can be the answer to their weakness on paint due to the lack of center which is possible answer since Luka is so good on this area.
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February 09, 2025, 08:21:26 AM
Lakers must be upset that the Mark Williams trade didn't go through, after all they were not only expecting to see him at Center, but also they believed it would be good to add another free agent as well. So it wasn't just about the Mark Williams himself, which would have ben a great addition of course, but it would have been about adding another vet minimum player, there were talks about Lonnie Walker for example. In any case, we just have to realize that Lakers will have to do with who they have right now.

Plus, Luka is very young, so if Lebron who just recently had an insane dunk at 40 years old while also scoring 40+ points, could wait for one more season, I am sure even if they fail this year, they could build a good team around these two next season and make them a lot better. They just have to wait, and I am sure good things will come.
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February 09, 2025, 08:10:53 AM
And speaking of new players debuting on their new team, Jimmy Butler had all fun with the Warriors, pointing fingers at Steph Curry, and helping them for a come from behind win against the Bulls.

I thought that the Warriors are going to lose this one as the Bulls built a good lead, but they close the 3rd quarter with a huge 42-25 advantage because of Steph and the whole team hitting their 3 point shoot. Butler finishes the game with 25 points. They still have to win a lot though to salvage this season as they are way behind the standing and the only hope is to go for a play-in.
It looks like the Warriors have a good chance of returning to their championship form. In that game, they were down by 20 at one point but managed to stage a comeback and even finished with a dominant win.

Curry also has less pressure now, with Butler stepping up as another scoring option. One thing that impressed me about Butler in that game was his free throws, he went 11-for-13, showing that he was really attacking the paint, and that makes the Warriors even more unpredictable moving forward.

Also them made some adjustment with Post as their starting center and converting his contract as he scored 18 points. Not sure though if this built is good for a championship run. Their first goal is to go to the playoff, no more play-in for them as it will add another pressure for the team.

They are still in the 9th-11th place, with .500, tied with Kings, Phoenix. Still a long way to go for them.

The Lakers also won, their 5th straight and Reaves plays like a White Mamba, so even without Lebron James, they've won against the Pacers. But it looks like they are going to choke, but I like how a healthy Gabe Vincent did play here. So for sure the Lakers fans are very happy to see Gabe healthy as he was acquired because of this. And so everyone that plays in his game have scored.
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February 09, 2025, 06:46:15 AM


And speaking of new players debuting on their new team, Jimmy Butler had all fun with the Warriors, pointing fingers at Steph Curry, and helping them for a come from behind win against the Bulls.

I thought that the Warriors are going to lose this one as the Bulls built a good lead, but they close the 3rd quarter with a huge 42-25 advantage because of Steph and the whole team hitting their 3 point shoot. Butler finishes the game with 25 points. They still have to win a lot though to salvage this season as they are way behind the standing and the only hope is to go for a play-in.

A slow start from the Warriors but when Steph start to fireup it's the sign for everyone to contribute, and just like what you've said Jimmy is enjoying Steph and Green's companies, they are playing like they've been with each other for so long, I like that adjustments from Green he acknowledge Jimmy's capabilities and we've seen them passing the ball and making decent attacks.

Though they need more wins as the playoffs is nearing more win to secure their next round position..
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February 09, 2025, 06:38:15 AM
And speaking of new players debuting on their new team, Jimmy Butler had all fun with the Warriors, pointing fingers at Steph Curry, and helping them for a come from behind win against the Bulls.

I thought that the Warriors are going to lose this one as the Bulls built a good lead, but they close the 3rd quarter with a huge 42-25 advantage because of Steph and the whole team hitting their 3 point shoot. Butler finishes the game with 25 points. They still have to win a lot though to salvage this season as they are way behind the standing and the only hope is to go for a play-in.
It looks like the Warriors have a good chance of returning to their championship form. In that game, they were down by 20 at one point but managed to stage a comeback and even finished with a dominant win.

Curry also has less pressure now, with Butler stepping up as another scoring option. One thing that impressed me about Butler in that game was his free throws, he went 11-for-13, showing that he was really attacking the paint, and that makes the Warriors even more unpredictable moving forward.
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February 09, 2025, 04:03:52 AM
Lakers are saying the NBA rescinded the Mark Williams trade! Oh man… That would have been quite a steal for the Lakers, instead it’s a tough break.

And then AD playing with the Mavs, he was doing great then suddenly another tough break for them as he looks like he got injured. And this is what we don't like to see on Davis although it looks like it' not that serious though, maybe he just reinjured an old abdominal muscle.

So Mark Williams failed the physical test with the Lakers, not surprised though as he has been injured before. Not sure though what will happen to the Lakers players that they send to the Hornets. But I think since the trade is voided, Dalton Knecht, Cam Reddish will be back to the Lakers as well for the meantime.

And speaking of new players debuting on their new team, Jimmy Butler had all fun with the Warriors, pointing fingers at Steph Curry, and helping them for a come from behind win against the Bulls.

I thought that the Warriors are going to lose this one as the Bulls built a good lead, but they close the 3rd quarter with a huge 42-25 advantage because of Steph and the whole team hitting their 3 point shoot. Butler finishes the game with 25 points. They still have to win a lot though to salvage this season as they are way behind the standing and the only hope is to go for a play-in.
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February 09, 2025, 04:01:21 AM
Lakers are saying the NBA rescinded the Mark Williams trade! Oh man… That would have been quite a steal for the Lakers, instead it’s a tough break.

On other hand Lakers still benefiting for the trade didn't happen since how they can see some changes if the player they get is another injury prone player? Although they really need a solid big man still what they have is a bunch of shooters and good defenders so provably that they can fill those gaps and still able to win their games.

Although it maybe could bring some good impact for their team for having Williams on their roster but if the guy can't play the whole season then there's still nothing change and they are in losing side for getting a player which they cannot use for their crucial games.
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February 09, 2025, 03:33:36 AM
Lakers are saying the NBA rescinded the Mark Williams trade! Oh man… That would have been quite a steal for the Lakers, instead it’s a tough break.

And then AD playing with the Mavs, he was doing great then suddenly another tough break for them as he looks like he got injured. And this is what we don't like to see on Davis although it looks like it' not that serious though, maybe he just reinjured an old abdominal muscle.

So Mark Williams failed the physical test with the Lakers, not surprised though as he has been injured before. Not sure though what will happen to the Lakers players that they send to the Hornets. But I think since the trade is voided, Dalton Knecht, Cam Reddish will be back to the Lakers as well for the meantime.
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February 09, 2025, 03:28:19 AM
What a sad stage in the life of a NBA player when you stop being a star or a starter of a team and you just become a trade card and goes from one NBA team to another without so much sense and minutes.

I feel like just Marcus Smart is starting to reach that point.
He is at that point. I don't think he will receive the same minutes as he was back in the Celtics days. He got some good show in the Grizzlies too but we could see he doesn't have the same energy anymore. If the Warriors trade Draymond Green, it could be the same case as him. They are born to lead and both are defensive specialists but they do not have that offensive power that most NBA fans look up to.

Anyway, AD's debut with the Mavs was damn phenomenal. I think he did this to show that the Lakers made a big mistake trading him. 26 points, 16 rebounds, 7 assists, and 3 blocks. That's a big man showing that he can do everything. I do wish it will be consistent.
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February 09, 2025, 03:20:14 AM
The thing with Wiggins though is that he is inconsistent and it seems that his mindset is not there unlike when he joined the Warriors in 2022. And that's why I think he was traded as he no longer the Wiggins that they have known before and his game really goes down in the last 2 years.
Before Wiggins was traded to the Warriors, he was already inconsistent. In fact, the Warriors were the best team for him since he was able to win a championship there. But now that he's with the Miami Heat, it's a different culture, so he might be influenced to play more consistently. Though honestly, I don’t expect much from him, but hopefully, Coach Spo can unlock his consistency.

But his inconsistency surfaces only after they've won a championship in 2022. He was part of that team, vital role, 2 way player and he shutdowns Luka on their series against them. And he was even voted in the All-Star because of his performance that year. So he was very consistent that time, but after that, he was MIA as others would like to put it. He was totally different the next year.

And then he was mostly absent in the last two years of their run so we shouldn't be surprised that he was traded. Besides, they still have the same player in Kuminga that can also score, although I would say that Wiggins defense is better that JK.
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February 09, 2025, 01:33:26 AM
Lakers are saying the NBA rescinded the Mark Williams trade! Oh man… That would have been quite a steal for the Lakers, instead it’s a tough break.
It's understandable that it failed knowing that Williams only played 85 games in the past 3 seasons. Based on what I saw on a Facebook post, he failed the LA Physical, and they felt that he can't be healthy for the whole season.

Now that the trade deadline is over, they will rely on both Hayes and Kleber to defend the paint, but looking at their roster, TBH they can do small ball as well with LBJ at the Center, DFS at 4, Rui at 3, Luka and Reaves at the guard position. I don't know if this will work for them, but in terms of offense, it's loaded at least. Still, not having a reliable center will be a problem for the Lakers. The defense that Davis is giving to his team will have a huge effect now that he's out in LA.
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February 08, 2025, 09:45:12 PM
Lakers are saying the NBA rescinded the Mark Williams trade! Oh man… That would have been quite a steal for the Lakers, instead it’s a tough break.
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