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Quote from: TravelMug on February 09, 2025, 04:03:52 AM

And speaking of new players debuting on their new team, Jimmy Butler had all fun with the Warriors, pointing fingers at Steph Curry, and helping them for a come from behind win against the Bulls.

I thought that the Warriors are going to lose this one as the Bulls built a good lead, but they close the 3rd quarter with a huge 42-25 advantage because of Steph and the whole team hitting their 3 point shoot. Butler finishes the game with 25 points. They still have to win a lot though to salvage this season as they are way behind the standing and the only hope is to go for a play-in.

It looks like the Warriors have a good chance of returning to their championship form. In that game, they were down by 20 at one point but managed to stage a comeback and even finished with a dominant win.

Curry also has less pressure now, with Butler stepping up as another scoring option. One thing that impressed me about Butler in that game was his free throws, he went 11-for-13, showing that he was really attacking the paint, and that makes the Warriors even more unpredictable moving forward.

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Quote from: OgNasty on February 08, 2025, 09:45:12 PM

Lakers are saying the NBA rescinded the Mark Williams trade! Oh man… That would have been quite a steal for the Lakers, instead it’s a tough break.

And then AD playing with the Mavs, he was doing great then suddenly another tough break for them as he looks like he got injured. And this is what we don't like to see on Davis although it looks like it' not that serious though, maybe he just reinjured an old abdominal muscle.

So Mark Williams failed the physical test with the Lakers, not surprised though as he has been injured before. Not sure though what will happen to the Lakers players that they send to the Hornets. But I think since the trade is voided, Dalton Knecht, Cam Reddish will be back to the Lakers as well for the meantime.

And speaking of new players debuting on their new team, Jimmy Butler had all fun with the Warriors, pointing fingers at Steph Curry, and helping them for a come from behind win against the Bulls.

I thought that the Warriors are going to lose this one as the Bulls built a good lead, but they close the 3rd quarter with a huge 42-25 advantage because of Steph and the whole team hitting their 3 point shoot. Butler finishes the game with 25 points. They still have to win a lot though to salvage this season as they are way behind the standing and the only hope is to go for a play-in.

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Quote from: OgNasty on February 08, 2025, 09:45:12 PM

Lakers are saying the NBA rescinded the Mark Williams trade! Oh man… That would have been quite a steal for the Lakers, instead it’s a tough break.

On other hand Lakers still benefiting for the trade didn't happen since how they can see some changes if the player they get is another injury prone player? Although they really need a solid big man still what they have is a bunch of shooters and good defenders so provably that they can fill those gaps and still able to win their games.

Although it maybe could bring some good impact for their team for having Williams on their roster but if the guy can't play the whole season then there's still nothing change and they are in losing side for getting a player which they cannot use for their crucial games.

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Quote from: OgNasty on February 08, 2025, 09:45:12 PM

Lakers are saying the NBA rescinded the Mark Williams trade! Oh man… That would have been quite a steal for the Lakers, instead it’s a tough break.

And then AD playing with the Mavs, he was doing great then suddenly another tough break for them as he looks like he got injured. And this is what we don't like to see on Davis although it looks like it' not that serious though, maybe he just reinjured an old abdominal muscle.

So Mark Williams failed the physical test with the Lakers, not surprised though as he has been injured before. Not sure though what will happen to the Lakers players that they send to the Hornets. But I think since the trade is voided, Dalton Knecht, Cam Reddish will be back to the Lakers as well for the meantime.

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Quote from: Volgastallion on February 08, 2025, 01:45:34 PM

What a sad stage in the life of a NBA player when you stop being a star or a starter of a team and you just become a trade card and goes from one NBA team to another without so much sense and minutes.

I feel like just Marcus Smart is starting to reach that point.

He is at that point. I don't think he will receive the same minutes as he was back in the Celtics days. He got some good show in the Grizzlies too but we could see he doesn't have the same energy anymore. If the Warriors trade Draymond Green, it could be the same case as him. They are born to lead and both are defensive specialists but they do not have that offensive power that most NBA fans look up to.

Anyway, AD's debut with the Mavs was damn phenomenal. I think he did this to show that the Lakers made a big mistake trading him. 26 points, 16 rebounds, 7 assists, and 3 blocks. That's a big man showing that he can do everything. I do wish it will be consistent.

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The thing with Wiggins though is that he is inconsistent and it seems that his mindset is not there unlike when he joined the Warriors in 2022. And that's why I think he was traded as he no longer the Wiggins that they have known before and his game really goes down in the last 2 years.

Before Wiggins was traded to the Warriors, he was already inconsistent. In fact, the Warriors were the best team for him since he was able to win a championship there. But now that he's with the Miami Heat, it's a different culture, so he might be influenced to play more consistently. Though honestly, I don’t expect much from him, but hopefully, Coach Spo can unlock his consistency.

But his inconsistency surfaces only after they've won a championship in 2022. He was part of that team, vital role, 2 way player and he shutdowns Luka on their series against them. And he was even voted in the All-Star because of his performance that year. So he was very consistent that time, but after that, he was MIA as others would like to put it. He was totally different the next year.

And then he was mostly absent in the last two years of their run so we shouldn't be surprised that he was traded. Besides, they still have the same player in Kuminga that can also score, although I would say that Wiggins defense is better that JK.

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Quote from: OgNasty on February 08, 2025, 09:45:12 PM

Lakers are saying the NBA rescinded the Mark Williams trade! Oh man… That would have been quite a steal for the Lakers, instead it’s a tough break.

It's understandable that it failed knowing that Williams only played 85 games in the past 3 seasons. Based on what I saw on a Facebook post, he failed the LA Physical, and they felt that he can't be healthy for the whole season.

Now that the trade deadline is over, they will rely on both Hayes and Kleber to defend the paint, but looking at their roster, TBH they can do small ball as well with LBJ at the Center, DFS at 4, Rui at 3, Luka and Reaves at the guard position. I don't know if this will work for them, but in terms of offense, it's loaded at least. Still, not having a reliable center will be a problem for the Lakers. The defense that Davis is giving to his team will have a huge effect now that he's out in LA.

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Lakers are saying the NBA rescinded the Mark Williams trade! Oh man… That would have been quite a steal for the Lakers, instead it’s a tough break.

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That makes sense. This is a gamble and risky trade for them but they are willing to make things right later on and test what will work for JJ as per Rob. I just can't help myself in believing on the kid because he's got the potential but maybe that's his destiny and he will be honed there after some years of being with them.

And for what it's worth for, Williams, who is averaging 16.0 points, 9.8 rebounds and 1.2 blocks per game. So that is a huge contribution if he can have this numbers in the Lakers uniform. It is also reported that Rob consulted with Luka about this trade and he was 100% down with that.

As per the report, Luka wanted a big men, like what he had in the Dallas uniform that he can ally-oop pass in Gafford and Lively. So expect the same plays that will screen for Luka and then that pass for a easy dunk.

Luka just got traded to the team, no offense but i dont think the GM called luka up to see if it was ok if he could make a trade for mark williams. Everyone knows the lakers were shopping for a big man. Williams just happened to be that guy. Lakers are taking a stab with a center who sits as much as he plays. Healthy its a great pickup. But big guys with injury concerns typically never end up getting better through the years.

I agree, we've seen it with a big guys like Greg and now AD has got it again for the Mavs. And speaking of Mavs, there is this talk of the former Mavs owner Mark Cuban with Bill Gates being asked of what he shall do if the current CEO of Microsoft traded the good windows 10 to windows 11. He answered, he'll hide from the press. LOL.

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Lakers already acquired Mark Williams from Hornets for Dalton Knecht

While Mark Williams could really fill the gap for AD but I am feeling that letting go of Dalton Knecht is not worth it for them. Well, what's done is done and he's going now to the Hornets and maybe he'd capitalize his talent there. And with all of these trades, look at PJ Tucker, he's traded and went to several teams within just 5 days. Grin

We really don't know how good Dalton will be in the future, but the Lakers are willing to take that risk for now. So still a win win for them as they got a good big man and then who knows, maybe Dalton will thrive on other teams and take advantage of his shooting,

That makes sense. This is a gamble and risky trade for them but they are willing to make things right later on and test what will work for JJ as per Rob. I just can't help myself in believing on the kid because he's got the potential but maybe that's his destiny and he will be honed there after some years of being with them.

And for what it's worth for, Williams, who is averaging 16.0 points, 9.8 rebounds and 1.2 blocks per game. So that is a huge contribution if he can have this numbers in the Lakers uniform. It is also reported that Rob consulted with Luka about this trade and he was 100% down with that.

As per the report, Luka wanted a big men, like what he had in the Dallas uniform that he can ally-oop pass in Gafford and Lively. So expect the same plays that will screen for Luka and then that pass for a easy dunk.

Luka just got traded to the team, no offense but i dont think the GM called luka up to see if it was ok if he could make a trade for mark williams. Everyone knows the lakers were shopping for a big man. Williams just happened to be that guy. Lakers are taking a stab with a center who sits as much as he plays. Healthy its a great pickup. But big guys with injury concerns typically never end up getting better through the years.

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Quote from: Dave1 on February 07, 2025, 07:07:30 PM

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That makes sense. This is a gamble and risky trade for them but they are willing to make things right later on and test what will work for JJ as per Rob. I just can't help myself in believing on the kid because he's got the potential but maybe that's his destiny and he will be honed there after some years of being with them.

And for what it's worth for, Williams, who is averaging 16.0 points, 9.8 rebounds and 1.2 blocks per game. So that is a huge contribution if he can have this numbers in the Lakers uniform. It is also reported that Rob consulted with Luka about this trade and he was 100% down with that.

As per the report, Luka wanted a big men, like what he had in the Dallas uniform that he can ally-oop pass in Gafford and Lively. So expect the same plays that will screen for Luka and then that pass for a easy dunk.

I forgot who said that but the league now is drying with big men and that's why having one for the team is what the Lakers really need to have. Getting a good sight of the paint is what gives the advantage while these offensive attacks from Luka and Bron will do good and doesn't have to be a problem for the team. It's even what AD wished for back then when he's with the Lakers but being with the Mavs he's got them towers. Anyway, AD is injured again but dropped 26 points on his debut.

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Quote from: Japinat on February 08, 2025, 04:28:11 AM

Before Wiggins was traded to the Warriors, he was already inconsistent. In fact, the Warriors were the best team for him since he was able to win a championship there. But now that he's with the Miami Heat, it's a different culture, so he might be influenced to play more consistently. Though honestly, I don’t expect much from him, but hopefully, Coach Spo can unlock his consistency.

Hopefully, he goes back to his former by being in the Heat. Coach Spo is different and I agree with you that he can unlock that inconsistency and probably lack of confidence.

There is more with Heat but we always see them do good every season and they're consistent with that.

Quote from: Volgastallion on February 08, 2025, 01:45:34 PM

What a sad stage in the life of a NBA player when you stop being a star or a starter of a team and you just become a trade card and goes from one NBA team to another without so much sense and minutes.

I feel like just Marcus Smart is starting to reach that point.

I remember being on that stage before and he's not alone. There are many of them that are going onto that point and they're just thrown wherever the team wants them to disposed.

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Quote from: Volgastallion on February 08, 2025, 01:45:34 PM

What a sad stage in the life of a NBA player when you stop being a star or a starter of a team and you just become a trade card and goes from one NBA team to another without so much sense and minutes.

I feel like just Marcus Smart is starting to reach that point.

Not only that, when he was traded, the Boston Celtics became a champion, so that really hurts. Remember that they used to be the big 3 in Boston, with Tatum and Brown, but it became obvious that they can't sign him with a big contract so they traded him.

Now, it's very different career for Smart, as you have said, he is now a trade piece and his game has gone down and most likely we might not see him in the next couple of years as team are not going to be interested as he was just a shell of his former self.

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Quote from: Volgastallion on February 08, 2025, 01:45:34 PM

What a sad stage in the life of a NBA player when you stop being a star or a starter of a team and you just become a trade card and goes from one NBA team to another without so much sense and minutes.

I feel like just Marcus Smart is starting to reach that point.

Ya, Marcus Smart and Dennis Schroeder are pretty much contract dumps in trades now. Ben Simmons (who was just released and signed with the Clippers) can probably be added to that list as well.

All eyes on the NFL tomorrow, but Monday it’ll be all eyes on the Lakers as Luka makes his debut. That is sure to be a well watched game.

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What a sad stage in the life of a NBA player when you stop being a star or a starter of a team and you just become a trade card and goes from one NBA team to another without so much sense and minutes.

I feel like just Marcus Smart is starting to reach that point.

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So Marcus Smart was traded again.

https://www.nba.com/news/2024-25-nba-trade-tracker

I thought he was contributing well with the Grizzlies when healthy, but I guess not. I mean from being defensive player of the year to this, it must hurt bad to his feeling. Well, what's done is done.

Going to the Wizards, I found some articles and posts that he could change the Wizards culture. I highly doubt that. The Wizards is a team of isolation without any defense to offer so if Smart is going to do defense, he might be doing it alone. Cheesy

Well, let's see, his veteran perspective and a former champion might add some difference when heard. That's if they don't bench him.

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Yes, and we have seen teams taking the obvious risk, in the last five risk or so, but there was one team that might really go that far in taking risk, the Brooklyn Nets. KD, Harden, Irving and even took Ben Simmons. But it didn't fare good for them as we all know that their big three is gone and Ben Simmons are going to be in a buy out.

That Nets roster was a good example of how a lot of superstars on one team don't guarantee anything, especially if the players don't have a good understanding of each other on the court.
As for Simmons, I honestly forgot about him since he has not been in the news much lately. Although, as I can see, he is still performing in the Nets uniform but very weakly.

Yeah, and probably that's what the risk teams are willing to do, and it's 50/50 as in this case, it didn't give them any dividends. For the games tonight, I saw another crazy ending in the Spurs vs Hornets.

The Hornets won the game, but the Spurs was able to get a shot from Fox, however, with 1.x seconds to go, the replay shows that he still has the ball in his hand with the time expires so it's not counted. But Fox beginning to show what he can do for the Spurs and I think they should be very happy that they got him from the Kings.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on February 08, 2025, 12:06:47 AM

Yes, and we have seen teams taking the obvious risk, in the last five risk or so, but there was one team that might really go that far in taking risk, the Brooklyn Nets. KD, Harden, Irving and even took Ben Simmons. But it didn't fare good for them as we all know that their big three is gone and Ben Simmons are going to be in a buy out.

That Nets roster was a good example of how a lot of superstars on one team don't guarantee anything, especially if the players don't have a good understanding of each other on the court.
As for Simmons, I honestly forgot about him since he has not been in the news much lately. Although, as I can see, he is still performing in the Nets uniform but very weakly.

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Williams, who is averaging 16.0 points, 9.8 rebounds and 1.2 blocks per game. So that is a huge contribution if he can have this numbers in the Lakers uniform. It is also reported that Rob consulted with Luka about this trade and he was 100% down with that.

As per the report, Luka wanted a big men, like what he had in the Dallas uniform that he can ally-oop pass in Gafford and Lively. So expect the same plays that will screen for Luka and then that pass for a easy dunk.

The only problem that I see with Mark Williams is he's injury prone. Just for context, in the last 3 seasons that he's in the NBA, he only played around 85 games more or less and that's few considering how many games in total 3 seasons has. Aside from that, he's a great center, and he also got the starting position ahead of Hayes and Kleber and that shows how good he is currently.

He's a double-double machine and he average double-double in 9 of his last 10 games. Aside from him, the Lakers also has an athletic Hayes that can get those passes from Luka since he's a high-flyer as well. The Lakers might've lost a good developing player in Knecht, but they really need a paint defender after that shocking trade.

But Lakers is actually not worried about his past injuries and they continue to trust that Mark Williams will deliver. Also he's really a good fit knowing that there's two superstar that can lift his game to another level.

He's great center and provably that Williams will get a lot of improvements on Lakers. That's why many people are excited when they heard about Lakers is getting him since now they are confident that they have reliable defensive anchor that can help Lakers to win their games. They might not feel what Knecht left since they still have good shooters that can fill what he left from his team. What Lakers really need is a solid defender and they already get that with Mark Williams presence.

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The thing with Wiggins though is that he is inconsistent and it seems that his mindset is not there unlike when he joined the Warriors in 2022. And that's why I think he was traded as he no longer the Wiggins that they have known before and his game really goes down in the last 2 years.

Before Wiggins was traded to the Warriors, he was already inconsistent. In fact, the Warriors were the best team for him since he was able to win a championship there. But now that he's with the Miami Heat, it's a different culture, so he might be influenced to play more consistently. Though honestly, I don’t expect much from him, but hopefully, Coach Spo can unlock his consistency.

There could be a chance that Wiggins might still improved, just like when he join the Warriors, suddenly there is a shift in his mindset. He already post a heartfelt message to the Dub Nation, including team mates, coaches and everything around that City.

And then he concluded that he is ready to be in the Heat uniform. So maybe changing teams might do good for him in the latter part of his career. So let's see how he will do with the city of Miami then. He could be the next franchise player for them.

That's what I'm thinking as well because Heat has a culture that you have to play for their system and I think Wiggins could fit in there.

The good thing about these trades is that teams has been unpredictable lately and there could be a chance that current standings will flip because of it, if GMs are sure of whom they traded especially for Dallas, Bucks, Sacramento, and Spurs to say the least. What's the funny thing with these recent trades as well was with Schroeder, the man is really tired of this.

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