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January 04, 2025, 03:24:23 AM
And it's now official folks,



https://x.com/MiamiHEAT/status/1875333072444649849

After Shams break the news and then Jimmy last statement, Miami Heat suspend him for 7 games and now are willing to listen to offers from other teams. So it's going to be a race as who will offer the package that Pat Riley and the Heat management are willing to take.

What do you think guys? Which team will Jimmy likely to go or his preferred team?

I don’t know. Suspending him for 7 games sort of sends the message that the Heat aren’t going to trade him. I think Pat Riley didn’t like being tested and he’s prepared to blow up the whole season rather than give Jimmy what he wants. I guess this is why people say don’t mess with Pat Riley. He’s old school.

If you read more of the tweet:

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Through his actions and statements, he has shown he no longer wants to be part of this team. Jimmy Butler and his representative have indicated that they wish to be traded, therefore, we will listen to offers.

https://x.com/MiamiHEAT/status/1875333088110375047

So that words come for the Heat and so they are now open for trade offers for Butler. I agree with @Harkorede, not the first time that we have seen a franchise player wanted to be traded or not happy with the team.

Might be hard for the Heat fans and the organization itself to see him go. But if he is detrimental to the team and causes problems then it's time for them to trade Jimmy and restart the franchise. And probably this will be the start of their rebuilding again.
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January 04, 2025, 12:36:52 AM
This is not the first time a player would want out of a franchise, neither would it be the last, it's always fine and just business when the franchise trades a player, but they become salty when its the player that wants out. I read in some tweet as well that the NBA Player Association are going to file a dispute against the decision by Heat.  I don't think the Heat would have a choice in this instance than trade Butler, it's only going to be a matter of how soon, I'd say.
This isn’t the first time Butler has requested a trade, so it’s not really surprising. But if I were a team owner, I wouldn’t go after Butler. Sure, he’s talented, but this kind of attitude isn’t professional and could disrupt the team’s core. Now that it’s already happening, let’s just hope the Heat can trade him for a strong leader, someone they need to stay competitive and remain a playoff contender.
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January 03, 2025, 10:43:28 PM
And it's now official folks,



https://x.com/MiamiHEAT/status/1875333072444649849

After Shams break the news and then Jimmy last statement, Miami Heat suspend him for 7 games and now are willing to listen to offers from other teams. So it's going to be a race as who will offer the package that Pat Riley and the Heat management are willing to take.

What do you think guys? Which team will Jimmy likely to go or his preferred team?

I don’t know. Suspending him for 7 games sort of sends the message that the Heat aren’t going to trade him. I think Pat Riley didn’t like being tested and he’s prepared to blow up the whole season rather than give Jimmy what he wants. I guess this is why people say don’t mess with Pat Riley. He’s old school.

This is not the first time a player would want out of a franchise, neither would it be the last, it's always fine and just business when the franchise trades a player, but they become salty when its the player that wants out. I read in some tweet as well that the NBA Player Association are going to file a dispute against the decision by Heat.  I don't think the Heat would have a choice in this instance than trade Butler, it's only going to be a matter of how soon, I'd say.
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January 03, 2025, 09:33:51 PM
And it's now official folks,



https://x.com/MiamiHEAT/status/1875333072444649849

After Shams break the news and then Jimmy last statement, Miami Heat suspend him for 7 games and now are willing to listen to offers from other teams. So it's going to be a race as who will offer the package that Pat Riley and the Heat management are willing to take.

What do you think guys? Which team will Jimmy likely to go or his preferred team?

I don’t know. Suspending him for 7 games sort of sends the message that the Heat aren’t going to trade him. I think Pat Riley didn’t like being tested and he’s prepared to blow up the whole season rather than give Jimmy what he wants. I guess this is why people say don’t mess with Pat Riley. He’s old school.
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January 03, 2025, 09:00:53 PM
^^ From what I read before, one team who is interested is the Warriors, but it will take them several key players like,

Jonathan Kuminga
Andrew Wiggins
Brandin Podziemski

So that's a lot and we don't know if Warriors are willing to go to that length just to get another superstar in their roster. And I do not see them as a better if they let go of 2 of those names. But let's see, it seems that the Warriors are somewhat in desperate situation. Even the supposedly Splash Buddy, Buddy Hield could be potentially involved because of the current regression in his game after a good start with them.
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January 03, 2025, 08:29:54 PM
And it's now official folks,



https://x.com/MiamiHEAT/status/1875333072444649849

After Shams break the news and then Jimmy last statement, Miami Heat suspend him for 7 games and now are willing to listen to offers from other teams. So it's going to be a race as who will offer the package that Pat Riley and the Heat management are willing to take.

What do you think guys? Which team will Jimmy likely to go or his preferred team?
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January 03, 2025, 10:34:10 AM

Meanwhile, did you guys catch the Warriors vs. Sixers? Man, Curry was absolutely perfect from deep. If he could play like that every game, the Warriors would be a serious threat. They shot an insane 56% from beyond the arc in that game.

Looks like everyone stepped up in that game, and the Sixers couldn’t even use their size advantage since they got outrebounded too.
The numbers are crazy impressive with seven players in double digits? insane..

Green: 15
Wiggins: 15
Curry: 30
Schroder: 15
Kuminga: 20
Waters III: 10
Moody: 12

That’s some serious team effort...
It’s like a brand-new Warriors squad after all their struggles. Hopefully, this wasn’t just a one-game wonder and they can keep up this momentum.
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January 03, 2025, 10:15:07 AM
Giannis must be really frustrated with his teammates right now. He and Trent Jr. managed to cut the lead to 9 points before the 4th quarter but when he sat down, his teammates blew it all and the Nets made it back to a 21-point lead. Lillard, Middleton, and Bobby.
They cannot even keep what he has done cutting that lead before he sat down. When he came in, they got close to the lead again and made it a 3-point game in the last seconds of the game but sadly, they lack the time to get a clean shot for a chance to take it to overtime.

The sadder part is they are expected to win in a blowout with a handicap of -10.5. Cry

They’re so unpredictable. Even as a top team, I wouldn’t count on them winning another championship. This season, if the Bucks get eliminated early in the playoffs, I wouldn’t be surprised if Giannis starts asking for a trade, kind of like what Butler’s doing now.

Anyway, it’s still early, but sorry about your loss, man (your bet). Sometimes those high spreads can be total traps.

Meanwhile, did you guys catch the Warriors vs. Sixers? Man, Curry was absolutely perfect from deep. If he could play like that every game, the Warriors would be a serious threat. They shot an insane 56% from beyond the arc in that game.
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January 03, 2025, 08:02:04 AM
Westbrook in last couple seasons has been really bad and now since he came to Denver, it’s like a completely new new player. I think that he can do a lot more for the team and the team is getting used to him and he paired up with Jokić really great. Westbrook had a lot of criticism in last couple of years in Lakers and so on, but since he came here, he is simply on fire and I think he can do a lot more for the team. Denver is a good overall Team and the pairing of Jokic and Westbrook will be even better with the season going on
I agree.

He fits to the roster and plays well together with Jokic. It seems that the Jokic-Murray tandem has been covered up by something new and that's with Jokic-Westbrook.

Despite the pay difference and the adjustment that Russell has to do, we've got a better Westbrook here and like a newborn man.

It is not something that is expected or possible for a basketball player to be reborn after the age of 36. But Westbrook has done it, although his performance has dropped a lot in the last few years, he is currently showing his old talents again with the Denver Nuggets.
His playing style is much more experienced and he looks like a complete veteran, it was very good to see him this year Smiley

I have been following him for a long time and I haven’t seen this good of a gameplay from him and a good season at all for at least five years. Westbrook got a lot of heat in the last couple of years and his talent is finally paying off and people aren’t criticizing him anymore, he’s making the Denver Nuggets team a lot better in attack and currently he is better than Jamal Murray .
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January 03, 2025, 07:59:37 AM
Giannis must be really frustrated with his teammates right now. He and Trent Jr. managed to cut the lead to 9 points before the 4th quarter but when he sat down, his teammates blew it all and the Nets made it back to a 21-point lead. Lillard, Middleton, and Bobby.
They cannot even keep what he has done cutting that lead before he sat down. When he came in, they got close to the lead again and made it a 3-point game in the last seconds of the game but sadly, they lack the time to get a clean shot for a chance to take it to overtime.

The sadder part is they are expected to win in a blowout with a handicap of -10.5. Cry
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January 03, 2025, 07:01:38 AM
I agree.

He fits to the roster and plays well together with Jokic. It seems that the Jokic-Murray tandem has been covered up by something new and that's with Jokic-Westbrook.

Despite the pay difference and the adjustment that Russell has to do, we've got a better Westbrook here and like a newborn man.

Agree to that, Jokic really maximizing WB and with how they are playing the game that kind of trust is what WB needs to accelerate his game, like what you both said he's fit with the system and his level of support gave him that confidence again to play well, with WB it not only Jokic and Jamal but they are now a complete packages of supporting role stars that will finished their offense.
Yeah.

A total package and this is very likeable for the Denver Nuggets fans. They've got an upgrade and made their roster even stronger. Don't also forget that they have Aaron Gordon.

So, they have a reliable line up and a potential come back for this season's championship ring.
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January 03, 2025, 06:54:10 AM
Great game between the Celtics and the Wolves though, it was very close game in the first half but then Celtics took a league in the 3rd. But the Wolves keeps coming back. And it boils down to the last second of the game, ANT though missed a tying 3 that could have forced the game into OT.
Boston just won by 3 points, enough to cover the spread. Honestly, I was a bit doubtful about betting on Celtics , I thought it might be a trap.

The Celtics started strong in this game, but the Wolves made a comeback, making it an exciting match. That said, I have to admit the Wolves don’t seem like a dominant team anymore, especially since they gave up KAT. Though Randle is producing good numbers, but talking about impact, I haven't seen it to be very positive.

This is the first year of Randle in Wolves so I don't expect that automatically he will bring some good impact since provably that he's in adjustment period. Kat is old timer on that team so its kinda expected that he already familiar with their rotation also with his teammates. Maybe they don't have an impressive start compare last season but Wolves still a dangerous team. Their opponent should not take them easy since they still have good players that could beat their asses.

Maybe in next following years Randle would bring not only points for Wolves but also other aspect that can help his team to win their games.

I think it's about ANT regression in the Wolves that might have been the one of the problems. Everyone was excited this season for him as it could be his break out after last season wherein the Wolves was really very close to go to the NBA finals.

However, the Randle-KAT trade might have disrupted the team for good this season, as they struggled with Randle as a replacement for KAT. On the other hand, the Knicks are striving and having a good season for themselves and in the top of the standing.
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January 03, 2025, 06:42:38 AM
Westbrook in last couple seasons has been really bad and now since he came to Denver, it’s like a completely new new player. I think that he can do a lot more for the team and the team is getting used to him and he paired up with Jokić really great. Westbrook had a lot of criticism in last couple of years in Lakers and so on, but since he came here, he is simply on fire and I think he can do a lot more for the team. Denver is a good overall Team and the pairing of Jokic and Westbrook will be even better with the season going on
I agree.

He fits to the roster and plays well together with Jokic. It seems that the Jokic-Murray tandem has been covered up by something new and that's with Jokic-Westbrook.

Despite the pay difference and the adjustment that Russell has to do, we've got a better Westbrook here and like a newborn man.

It is not something that is expected or possible for a basketball player to be reborn after the age of 36. But Westbrook has done it, although his performance has dropped a lot in the last few years, he is currently showing his old talents again with the Denver Nuggets.
His playing style is much more experienced and he looks like a complete veteran, it was very good to see him this year Smiley
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January 03, 2025, 06:00:45 AM
That said, I have to admit the Wolves don’t seem like a dominant team anymore, especially since they gave up KAT. Though Randle is producing good numbers, but talking about impact, I haven't seen it to be very positive.

The Wolves' current results during the regular season may not be particularly impressive, but the fact that they can perform well in a single game against a team like the Celtics is encouraging. Honestly, I think the Wolves can still surprise fans, especially if they make the playoffs. At least I wouldn't be surprised if they can make at least the first round in the playoffs.

Unlike last season when they impress the fans with their performance just fell short against the Mavs but this season they might still have that chance moving forward to the next round, though the chance is slim as they are not the same with the level they perform last season, just like what the post above observe, Randle might providing numbers but KAT brings more.

Let see if how far they can reach this season and what adjustments they need to maximize whatever they've got the season still young and there are many things that can happen along the way.
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January 03, 2025, 05:52:36 AM
Great game between the Celtics and the Wolves though, it was very close game in the first half but then Celtics took a league in the 3rd. But the Wolves keeps coming back. And it boils down to the last second of the game, ANT though missed a tying 3 that could have forced the game into OT.
Boston just won by 3 points, enough to cover the spread. Honestly, I was a bit doubtful about betting on Celtics , I thought it might be a trap.

The Celtics started strong in this game, but the Wolves made a comeback, making it an exciting match. That said, I have to admit the Wolves don’t seem like a dominant team anymore, especially since they gave up KAT. Though Randle is producing good numbers, but talking about impact, I haven't seen it to be very positive.

This is the first year of Randle in Wolves so I don't expect that automatically he will bring some good impact since provably that he's in adjustment period. Kat is old timer on that team so its kinda expected that he already familiar with their rotation also with his teammates. Maybe they don't have an impressive start compare last season but Wolves still a dangerous team. Their opponent should not take them easy since they still have good players that could beat their asses.

Maybe in next following years Randle would bring not only points for Wolves but also other aspect that can help his team to win their games.
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January 03, 2025, 05:37:25 AM
That said, I have to admit the Wolves don’t seem like a dominant team anymore, especially since they gave up KAT. Though Randle is producing good numbers, but talking about impact, I haven't seen it to be very positive.

The Wolves' current results during the regular season may not be particularly impressive, but the fact that they can perform well in a single game against a team like the Celtics is encouraging. Honestly, I think the Wolves can still surprise fans, especially if they make the playoffs. At least I wouldn't be surprised if they can make at least the first round in the playoffs.
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January 03, 2025, 02:34:39 AM
Great game between the Celtics and the Wolves though, it was very close game in the first half but then Celtics took a league in the 3rd. But the Wolves keeps coming back. And it boils down to the last second of the game, ANT though missed a tying 3 that could have forced the game into OT.
Boston just won by 3 points, enough to cover the spread. Honestly, I was a bit doubtful about betting on Celtics , I thought it might be a trap.

The Celtics started strong in this game, but the Wolves made a comeback, making it an exciting match. That said, I have to admit the Wolves don’t seem like a dominant team anymore, especially since they gave up KAT. Though Randle is producing good numbers, but talking about impact, I haven't seen it to be very positive.
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January 03, 2025, 02:20:57 AM
It's really hard to see Zion not playing and not seeing his prime years. And maybe we could say by now that he is busted.

Zion is a talented and promising player, but players like him are too prone to various injuries and usually play in the NBA for a relatively short period. By the way, Zion has never played a full season for his short career in the NBA, i.e. there was not a single season in which he participated in all 82 games. Can he play at least 10 seasons in the NBA while getting injured all the time? I doubt it.
And Zion for sure is very frustrated on how his career has turn when he go up in pro. Just shows though that NBA is very different from college basketball and you really need to be discipline and take care of your health. Zion might have the genetics, but still if you don't the complete package, mentality and physically, you wont' last in the league and not even play healthy in one season.


Great game between the Celtics and the Wolves though, it was very close game in the first half but then Celtics took a league in the 3rd. But the Wolves keeps coming back. And it boils down to the last second of the game, ANT though missed a tying 3 that could have forced the game into OT.
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January 03, 2025, 02:15:26 AM
Pat Riley can say whatever he wants about Jimmy Butler’s future, but I think he’s as good as gone and it won’t be long before a trade is announced. He basically said he hates playing basketball for the Heat and he wants to be happy again somewhere else. Pat Riley must be pissed right now. He doesn’t tolerate this type of behavior and Butler doesn’t gaf. This might be interesting.

https://x.com/worldwidewob/status/1875017553002872976

And Shams is right after all, he is the first to tweet about Butler's wanting to get out of Miami and then Pat Riley tries to shoot down that noise. But it seems inevitable, with this kind of statement and body language it could be bound to happen.

I'm not sure what teams are courting Butler or what teams are interested. But this trade could happen before the trade deadline this February. And for sure, there are a lot of teams that are willing to take Butler and became their franchise player.
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January 02, 2025, 11:16:17 PM
Pat Riley can say whatever he wants about Jimmy Butler’s future, but I think he’s as good as gone and it won’t be long before a trade is announced. He basically said he hates playing basketball for the Heat and he wants to be happy again somewhere else. Pat Riley must be pissed right now. He doesn’t tolerate this type of behavior and Butler doesn’t gaf. This might be interesting.

https://x.com/worldwidewob/status/1875017553002872976
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