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November 01, 2020, 06:02:55 AM
The coach becomes the assistant coach of his ex-player.
This is something weird but let's see what will happen.
Mike D'Antoni reunites with Steve Nash as Nets' assistant coach
New Brooklyn Nets coaching staff.
1. Head Coach - Steve Nash (former Suns 2-consecutive time season MVP)
2. Asst. Coach - Ime Udoka (former asst. coach of 76ers) - specialized in defense
3. Asst. Coach - Mike D'Antoni (former Rockets coach and Suns coach of Steve Nash) specialized in offense
4. Player Devt Assistant - Amar’e Stoudemire (former Suns played with Steve Nash and coached by D'Antoni)

Look at this Brooklyn team, they are now fully packed and ready for war.  Grin
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November 01, 2020, 05:45:55 AM

Derozan is just another Paul George. The kind of players who can't find a way to create an impact during off nights.
One thing I noticed that resembles both of them is the consistent piling of brick after brick shots, which makes their team suffer. Now, I'm starting to think that these players are overrated, or shall I say they aren't a good leader to lead a team.

Paul George only struggle during his time with the Clippers and I think due to personal problem with coach, maybe.. I don't know.
However, Derozan has been playing with the Spurs for like 2 or 3 seasons already? but he hasn't showed some consistency especially when he is needed the most.

PG have some great season with the OKC, he may struggle in a couple of games but he will be back, in fact, I expect him to be the same PG next season but DeRozan will be the same DeRozan as well.  Tongue

Well, I may reconsider Paul George as he suffered a major career ending injury, but he managed to overcome it and came back stronger minus the acrobatic dunks. But regardless all that, imo he hasn't showed a winning mentality.
While on the other hand, Derozan might gradually lost his value. He's slowly getting out of his prime. Though they had a good run while he's still with the Raptors, but maybe the Cavs are too much for them.
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November 01, 2020, 05:18:39 AM
Warriors will not be able to use number two draft pick properly that is obvious, they are not going to get someone who will change the team like crazy, it is going to be a rookie and it is going to take a time for that rookie to be even decent, this is not a year where the top draft could change a team suddenly, there is no Doncic or Trae or Zion in this draft hence that draft pick doesn't worth much.
I'd like to agree with this possible drafting decision of GSW. Probably other teams would focus to other veterans that can add power to their team.

Like the example of Melo. Almost no team wants to take him until the last minute then made the team got a good progress on the bubble.

We will see if Melo is really something helpful for the Blazers as last season the Blazers have struggle.
Now, they are complete, they got their Center back, so hopefully Melo, McCulum, and Lillard would be able to bring this team to the playoffs again.

I don't see any improvement when they don't give a good fight with the Lakers.
They got almost sweep by the defending champion now.
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November 01, 2020, 03:51:11 AM
Warriors will not be able to use number two draft pick properly that is obvious, they are not going to get someone who will change the team like crazy, it is going to be a rookie and it is going to take a time for that rookie to be even decent, this is not a year where the top draft could change a team suddenly, there is no Doncic or Trae or Zion in this draft hence that draft pick doesn't worth much.
I'd like to agree with this possible drafting decision of GSW. Probably other teams would focus to other veterans that can add power to their team.

Like the example of Melo. Almost no team wants to take him until the last minute then made the team got a good progress on the bubble.
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November 01, 2020, 01:31:25 AM

Derozan is just another Paul George. The kind of players who can't find a way to create an impact during off nights.
One thing I noticed that resembles both of them is the consistent piling of brick after brick shots, which makes their team suffer. Now, I'm starting to think that these players are overrated, or shall I say they aren't a good leader to lead a team.

Sad truth, they rather keep on pushing than to let accept the off night and help with other role.

We seen lots of good stars who knows how to adjust when certain things call them, instead of keep shooting they will tend to play as
decoy and create plays for their teammates.
This Two superstars needs to learn and adjust from time to time, they are stars but they don't need tp push things up they rather bring
the boost for other players to stand up and share their talents to win the game.

Paul George will adjust, he was playing with Kawhi Leonard and that might have affected his style of play as he knows Kawhi is the main man of the team.

DeRozan's stats has really dropped compared to his stats with the Raptors.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/derozde01.html

While on PG we can understand that it dropped since he played in a team where there's lots of offensive players, they share the ball well compared with his time with the OKC.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/georgpa01.html

This kind of recognition on DeRozan might be forgotten by people due to his bad seasons with the Spurs.

https://www.poundingtherock.com/2020/1/18/21071813/demar-derozan-record-michael-jordan
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October 31, 2020, 11:21:11 AM
Warriors will not be able to use number two draft pick properly that is obvious, they are not going to get someone who will change the team like crazy, it is going to be a rookie and it is going to take a time for that rookie to be even decent, this is not a year where the top draft could change a team suddenly, there is no Doncic or Trae or Zion in this draft hence that draft pick doesn't worth much.

On the other hand is it really Kelly Oubre that the highest offer could be? I am sure GM already let all the teams know that their second pick is up for grabs and teams must be providing some offers for such a good pick if they are far away and a young team like Suns. I feel like Wiggins + second pick could actually come down to someone that could be around all-star level and that is what they need, a player who is at all-star level and it is quite possible with Wiggins+second pick if you ask me.
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October 31, 2020, 10:43:11 AM

Derozan is just another Paul George. The kind of players who can't find a way to create an impact during off nights.
One thing I noticed that resembles both of them is the consistent piling of brick after brick shots, which makes their team suffer. Now, I'm starting to think that these players are overrated, or shall I say they aren't a good leader to lead a team.

Sad truth, they rather keep on pushing than to let accept the off night and help with other role.

We seen lots of good stars who knows how to adjust when certain things call them, instead of keep shooting they will tend to play as
decoy and create plays for their teammates.
This Two superstars needs to learn and adjust from time to time, they are stars but they don't need tp push things up they rather bring
the boost for other players to stand up and share their talents to win the game.
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October 31, 2020, 09:43:00 AM
Why CP3? There are other playera too tha are good and can play roles like the rookie of Miami heat players did. I say they should train hard their players instead of spending or trading to something that is valuable player but expensive. In my own point of view if I can handle a team I'd rather let the staff and players work in the training and pay them with incentives rather than spending too much in a trade. They can motivate everyone because success never comes easy and that will take if either they work hard in training and also train them to play smartly.
I don't quite understand where you are going here.
CP3 is the available player for trade. But because of his high salary, other teams cannot just take him.
It's his skills that are being paid for. If you train a new guy, it will take some time and that might be more expensive than getting a veteran which had been thru  ups and downs. He knows the drill and it can also help Embiid and Ben thru his knowledge.

If I wanted to trade Derozan, I would probably go with players who are great shooters and defenders and around 6'7 to 6'9 for Spurs so that they could put them in PF positions, that way they could run the 1-2-3 positions with their young players and play the 4th with the new talent and Center could be Jakop Poeltl and Lyes instead of Lamarcus.
Yeah, shooting guards might be their target now.
Pops is not the type to run a one-man team and I am guessing that is the case with DeRozan.
He needs to fill a lot of holes to make it a strong Spurs again.
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October 31, 2020, 08:56:46 AM

 Derozan is not a bad player at all, actually Spurs are not playing that bad neither, they are just a young team with 2 all-star level players and in todays league many teams have 2 superstars and not all-stars so its hard to compete in the west with such stacked teams. The problem spurs have is not the "quality" of the players they have, its the method those players play. For example defense is quite important for spurs system because they care about transition but you look at the defense of likes of Derozan and Lamarcus and Byrn Forbes and Patty mills and Marco Bellineli, all of which are great offensive players but they are below avarage on defense.

 So what Spurs need is not "better" players but more like players who are around the same level of talent but play differently, more 3&D is needed for them, and I believe the future could have that for them as well. Players like Dejounte and White and Lonnie and Keldon all could be decent players in the future, we don't know when that will happen or even if it will ever happen, but at that moment they will be great.

 If I wanted to trade Derozan, I would probably go with players who are great shooters and defenders and around 6'7 to 6'9 for Spurs so that they could put them in PF positions, that way they could run the 1-2-3 positions with their young players and play the 4th with the new talent and Center could be Jakop Poeltl and Lyes instead of Lamarcus.
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October 31, 2020, 07:28:20 AM

If they are trading derozen then you can expect them to trade Aldridge too and completely rebuild trading for draft picks.  Sending derozen out for another player doesn't make sense, derozen is fine in the spurs scheme.

With respect to you, I don't see that, Spurs were much a better before Derozan, I was thinking the trade was good but we have already seen the result, his lack of winning mentality makes the Spurs suffer and he did that during the playoffs time, his average is a proof or evidence.

Derozan is just another Paul George. The kind of players who can't find a way to create an impact during off nights.
One thing I noticed that resembles both of them is the consistent piling of brick after brick shots, which makes their team suffer. Now, I'm starting to think that these players are overrated, or shall I say they aren't a good leader to lead a team.

Paul George only struggle during his time with the Clippers and I think due to personal problem with coach, maybe.. I don't know.
However, Derozan has been playing with the Spurs for like 2 or 3 seasons already? but he hasn't showed some consistency especially when he is needed the most.

PG have some great season with the OKC, he may struggle in a couple of games but he will be back, in fact, I expect him to be the same PG next season but DeRozan will be the same DeRozan as well.  Tongue
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October 31, 2020, 07:00:43 AM

If they are trading derozen then you can expect them to trade Aldridge too and completely rebuild trading for draft picks.  Sending derozen out for another player doesn't make sense, derozen is fine in the spurs scheme.

With respect to you, I don't see that, Spurs were much a better before Derozan, I was thinking the trade was good but we have already seen the result, his lack of winning mentality makes the Spurs suffer and he did that during the playoffs time, his average is a proof or evidence.

Derozan is just another Paul George. The kind of players who can't find a way to create an impact during off nights.
One thing I noticed that resembles both of them is the consistent piling of brick after brick shots, which makes their team suffer. Now, I'm starting to think that these players are overrated, or shall I say they aren't a good leader to lead a team.
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October 31, 2020, 03:36:49 AM
This helps the warriors I guess because they are looking for a great shooters and Kelly Oubre has been an underrated offensive and defensive player.

Warriors Trade Rumors: Kelly Oubre Believed to Interest GS Ahead of NBA Draft

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Phoenix Suns small forward Kelly Oubre is a potential trade target for the Golden State Warriors, according to ESPN's Nick Friedell.

"The name that keeps popping up when you talk to people is Kelly Oubre," Friedell said Wednesday on The Jump. "Can they get him in? What would they have to give up? They have the trade exception for Andre Iguodala as well that expires here in a little bit."
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October 31, 2020, 02:34:38 AM

Why CP3? There are other playera too tha are good and can play roles like the rookie of Miami heat players did. I say they should train hard their players instead of spending or trading to something that is valuable player but expensive. In my own point of view if I can handle a team I'd rather let the staff and players work in the training and pay them with incentives rather than spending too much in a trade. They can motivate everyone because success never comes easy and that will take if either they work hard in training and also train them to play smartly.
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October 31, 2020, 02:26:19 AM
That will be a good move if happened.

Sixers needs a reliable point guard so that Simmons can be more focused on his usual position, the forward position. He isn't that good in terms of playmaking as that's not his playing style.
Correct. Or Simmons could be an all-around guy who can pass while breaking the opponent's defensive position.
There is no problem with Paul since he is a shooter. If Simmons penetrates Paul is free to shoot the ball or it could be the other way around.
They can make a variety of plays with him on the team.

I think there's no plan to trade away either Embiid and Simmons. They can accommodate CP3's salary but they need to give up their good role players. It's fine though and takes that as the last attempt to chase the championship with Simmons and Embiid together and CP3's time (in good shape) is running out.
No plan. Not now.
Bring CP3, try it out if it will work then maybe they can keep the team and add more roleplayers.
But I think they will need to bring the team to East Finals again before that happens.
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October 31, 2020, 02:19:02 AM
he should be traded and hopefully there are teams who are willing to accept him, the guy is good defensively but just inconsistent with his offense.

He is part of the trading rumors:

Milwaukee Bucks and Brooklyn Nets Interested in DeMar DeRozan

DeRozan has been involved in trade talks

DeRozan is the only valuable player that the Spurs can trade if they want to upgrade their roster. They should get a good deal of marketing DeRozan as his value is considered still on top.


If they are trading derozen then you can expect them to trade Aldridge too and completely rebuild trading for draft picks.  Sending derozen out for another player doesn't make sense, derozen is fine in the spurs scheme.

With respect to you, I don't see that, Spurs were much a better before Derozan, I was thinking the trade was good but we have already seen the result, his lack of winning mentality makes the Spurs suffer and he did that during the playoffs time, his average is a proof or evidence.
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October 31, 2020, 01:55:50 AM
This is how the match will end:
Toronto vs cavalier 30:30
Golden vs Portland. 40:30
NBA 2020 season is here again. All my bet is going well right now which am expecting a good reward for the game.
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October 30, 2020, 08:12:31 PM
he should be traded and hopefully there are teams who are willing to accept him, the guy is good defensively but just inconsistent with his offense.

He is part of the trading rumors:

Milwaukee Bucks and Brooklyn Nets Interested in DeMar DeRozan

DeRozan has been involved in trade talks

DeRozan is the only valuable player that the Spurs can trade if they want to upgrade their roster. They should get a good deal of marketing DeRozan as his value is considered still on top.


If they are trading derozen then you can expect them to trade Aldridge too and completely rebuild trading for draft picks.  Sending derozen out for another player doesn't make sense, derozen is fine in the spurs scheme.
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October 30, 2020, 06:43:16 PM
he should be traded and hopefully there are teams who are willing to accept him, the guy is good defensively but just inconsistent with his offense.

He is part of the trading rumors:

Milwaukee Bucks and Brooklyn Nets Interested in DeMar DeRozan

DeRozan has been involved in trade talks

DeRozan is the only valuable player that the Spurs can trade if they want to upgrade their roster. They should get a good deal of marketing DeRozan as his value is considered still on top.
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October 30, 2020, 06:31:46 PM
The only thing that Udoka should receive the big credit when he helps Aldridge to decide to join the Spurs.
Unfortunately it was not a successful move, Spurs were a different team when Aldrige played for them, Aldrige should have stayed with the Portland Blazers and wait until the team develop, imagine if he stayed in the team and they have Lillard and McCullum.
It's because Spurs was really looking for a big man, to replace Duncan and they take the risk of taking LaMarcus that time because he has the potential in Portland. But things went different in San Antonio and then the whole NBA also change, when Centers took relinquish their position to shooting guards started by Curry. Now if you wanted to be a big guy in the middle, you need to learn how to shoot three's. And then age catching up with him, so probably he was a victim of an evolving game in the NBA as well.
I think Aldrige is not a bad 3 point shooter, his mid range jumper is even decent if you'll ask me, it's just the who system where they didn't get a real superstar to help Aldridge, it was suppose to be Kawhi Leonard but he left the team by asking to be traded with Demar.


DeRozan case is different though, he doesn't have that mentally and the passion to bring the Spurs to the next level. He is good but not elite, in my opinion.

You forget to mentioned that DeRozan can't also shoot 3s Tongue
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October 30, 2020, 06:17:21 PM
The only thing that Udoka should receive the big credit when he helps Aldridge to decide to join the Spurs.
Unfortunately it was not a successful move, Spurs were a different team when Aldrige played for them, Aldrige should have stayed with the Portland Blazers and wait until the team develop, imagine if he stayed in the team and they have Lillard and McCullum.
It's because Spurs was really looking for a big man, to replace Duncan and they take the risk of taking LaMarcus that time because he has the potential in Portland. But things went different in San Antonio and then the whole NBA also change, when Centers took relinquish their position to shooting guards started by Curry. Now if you wanted to be a big guy in the middle, you need to learn how to shoot three's. And then age catching up with him, so probably he was a victim of an evolving game in the NBA as well.

DeRozan case is different though, he doesn't have that mentally and the passion to bring the Spurs to the next level. He is good but not elite, in my opinion.
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