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June 29, 2020, 08:45:17 PM

PG13 is no doubt on a star level as well, but I also don't understand myself, when he got injured and though had recovered fully now, my confident on him was never the same anymore.
I think he even improved on his shooting ability special on the 2018 - 2019th season of the NBA as per stat.

It's not about the improvement, I just thought anytime he can be injured again as for me he is already fragile, sorry to say this, it's just my opinion.
Same with DRose, I'm afraid that when PG will be injured again, he would struggle to claim his status again.

Good thing now that he has learn to be more accurate shooting outside, that would take him away from driving into the basket and he just need to be more careful now as if 2nd injury will happen, he might not be able to recover well. Sorry again,...

Maybe one of the reasons why PG13 and Westbrook did not worth with the OKC is because while PG13 has improve his shooting, Westrbook also struggle with his shooting that very season.
You don't have to feel sorry that's understandable but I think he got the rhythm now and hope greediness won't hit him going boards as well as he always keep maintaining the health of his feet. He even got selected for the MVP category the last year because of the shooting percentage he showed on the league I think he was 3rd on the 3 point percentage that season.
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June 29, 2020, 07:36:18 PM
Another bad news for the NBA, Spencer Dinwiddie is playing the best season of his NBA career and it's not good if they'll missed the season.
Their standing is good, but they still needs to win some games and they need a good PG, so hopefully Irving would play and think of helping his team as that's what he is paid to do.

his stats this season is pretty impressive :

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/dinwisp01.html



It was really unfortunate, teams who are still fighting for a playoff spot really needs their star players.
Thanks for sharing that stats, we can see the big improvement of his stats, his numbers are ascending, so they need someone to provide that average PPG per game for their team, that's why I've mentioned in my other post that Irving is really needed when the season resume.




On JR Smith signing with the Lakers, not sure if it's a good news, I'll leave that up to you guys to judge.

The Lakers has a big chance to reach in the WCF, then the Finals if they will be more successful, but they will not be facing the warriors anymore, lol.. so I think he will not messed up this time, and I also think he won't get the average minutes he is getting in Cleveland Cavaliers.
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June 29, 2020, 07:12:25 PM
Another bad news for the NBA, Spencer Dinwiddie is playing the best season of his NBA career and it's not good if they'll missed the season.
Their standing is good, but they still needs to win some games and they need a good PG, so hopefully Irving would play and think of helping his team as that's what he is paid to do.

his stats this season is pretty impressive :

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/dinwisp01.html






On JR Smith signing with the Lakers, not sure if it's a good news, I'll leave that up to you guys to judge.
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June 29, 2020, 07:00:50 PM
Unfortunately, another star player added in the list of players positive in covid-19.

Here's the story.

Nets' Spencer Dinwiddie Tested Positive for COVID-19; NBA Restart Status Unclear



I think Irving has to play now, the situation calls him as they might not qualify in the playoffs if he will not play.

And on the other news.

Lakers Rumors: JR Smith Contract Expected to Be Finalized Ahead of Deadline

Hopefully he will not messed up again.  Grin
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June 29, 2020, 05:21:03 PM
how could I ever respect someone who switched sides after losing to a 73-9 team on the last game and decided that the easiest way to get a ring would be to play for them?
Maybe he doesn't want to play with Westbrook anymore and he received a good offer from the GSW.

At least we still have time to see him proving again that he doesn't need to play with a super team to win a championship and hopefully we can see him fully healthy once again playing with the Nets, if he can bring success to the Nets then maybe that would ease some doubt from the people that he is a real champion.

Actually LBJ did the same, when he keeps trying to win a championship with the Cavaliers and he failed every time, he decided to pair with Wade and Chris Bosh, and their they won a championship together, I think that was 2 times in Heat, and he comes back with the Cavaliers and create his own.

So if people respect Lebron, Durant deserve some respect as well.
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June 29, 2020, 01:44:57 PM
I would never say that Durant is not a good player, he is a great player, dude definitely deserves to be one of the best players in the whole league right now, specially when we are talking about offense, Durant is just on whole another level and can score at will.

However one thing bugs me off, when you talk about his achievements all of them looks awesome except two of them, two time champion and two time fmvp, well fmvp could be a major thing since he won it over Curry on Curry's team which is quite achievement but you only get it if you win the championship and we all know that Durant went to a 73-9 team, how could I ever respect someone who switched sides after losing to a 73-9 team on the last game and decided that the easiest way to get a ring would be to play for them? Aside from those two accomplishments all of his accolades are surreal and amazing.
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June 29, 2020, 11:55:05 AM

If PG has been the same as he was just like what he did on Indiana he should have been better by now, even best. I appreciate the lad even what has happened during that scrimmage and just a few months he already made a return to the NBA. They'll have been teammates long ago with Kawhi on Indiana just happens Kawhi been traded with George Hill.

He was a monster back then.
If only that tragedy didn't happen we might be looking at a new MVP and a Finals game with Indiana in it. Smiley
But, he did prove that their medical staff is really good.
I thought he wont come back anymore since it was really a bad injury.
The best part is how he controlled the mental recovery.

My Top List.
1. Leonard
2. Klay Thompson
3. KD
4. Lebron
5. Steph
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June 29, 2020, 11:26:59 AM
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There's no doubt Kevin Durant will be a future Hall of Famer because he already achieved a lot of things in his career as an NBA player. Nevertheless, he is one of the best players in his prime if not for the wrong timing injury last year Raptors will have a hard time claiming the championship because of this man. Anyway, becoming a Hall of Famer is base on what have you done in your career and Durant proved that he has more to go after this pandemic ends.
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June 29, 2020, 10:36:41 AM

PG13 is no doubt on a star level as well, but I also don't understand myself, when he got injured and though had recovered fully now, my confident on him was never the same anymore.
I think he even improved on his shooting ability special on the 2018 - 2019th season of the NBA as per stat.

It's not about the improvement, I just thought anytime he can be injured again as for me he is already fragile, sorry to say this, it's just my opinion.
Same with DRose, I'm afraid that when PG will be injured again, he would struggle to claim his status again.

Good thing now that he has learn to be more accurate shooting outside, that would take him away from driving into the basket and he just need to be more careful now as if 2nd injury will happen, he might not be able to recover well. Sorry again,...

Maybe one of the reasons why PG13 and Westbrook did not worth with the OKC is because while PG13 has improve his shooting, Westrbook also struggle with his shooting that very season.
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June 29, 2020, 10:19:54 AM
Next to Lebron might be PG13.
PG13 is no doubt on a star level as well, but I also don't understand myself, when he got injured and though had recovered fully now, my confident on him was never the same anymore.
I might go with PG as well. He's too good to not be included on the list.
You guys pickin' your best players, and so here's mine:
  • LeBron
  • Kawhi
  • Durant
  • Luka
  • Dame

I have more to include but these guys were on my top list as of now. Don't get me wrong, there were players who might be better than them in your opinion, and I respect that  Cheesy.


I also like to add, my favorite is DROSE, though I miss the old DROSE but I'm still a fan.
Rose might not be as athletic as he was before but the difference on his stats compared to what he had before isn't bad though.


Source: https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/r/rosede01.html

He's playing smarter and safe now. What I'm hoping for him now, is to stay healthy as long as he could ('cause we all know that he don't have that strong body anymore), so that leaving the league won't ever cross his mind again  Cry. Won't ever forget his career high 50pt game with Minnesota, makes me emotional at some point as I witnessed his entire journey.
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June 29, 2020, 10:05:35 AM
Though underrated I'd still go with my favorite player on the first spot. Here is what on my list.

1. Paul George
2. LeBron James
3. Kevin Durant
4. Kawhi Leonard
5. Stephen Curry

If PG has been the same as he was just like what he did on Indiana he should have been better by now, even best. I appreciate the lad even what has happened during that scrimmage and just a few months he already made a return to the NBA. They'll have been teammates long ago with Kawhi on Indiana just happens Kawhi been traded with George Hill.

PG13 is no doubt on a star level as well, but I also don't understand myself, when he got injured and though had recovered fully now, my confident on him was never the same anymore.
I think he even improved on his shooting ability special on the 2018 - 2019th season of the NBA as per stat.
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June 29, 2020, 10:04:57 AM
Of the active players in the NBA now, I think it's Kawhi Leonard, very quite but very dangerous as well.
He is the number 1 in my list and I would never bet against him anymore after I saw what he and his team did with the heavily favored Bucks in the last ECF.

The current team of Leonard now is better than his previous team, so I expect them to beat the best teams in the West, including LBJ of course.
Westbrook and Harden might pull a surprise in the West, but I believe if ever they'll face the Clippers, they would still lose.
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June 29, 2020, 09:47:11 AM
Next to Lebron might be PG13.
PG13 is no doubt on a star level as well, but I also don't understand myself, when he got injured and though had recovered fully now, my confident on him was never the same anymore.

I don't really like the Harden and Westbrook style. I don't know why.
Maybe because of bad entertainment just like I said.


I like Westbrook over harden as he can bring some energy in the floor for his teammates, pair him with a superstar like Lebron, the team might become a championship contender.

I also like to add, my favorite is DROSE, though I miss the old DROSE but I'm still a fan.
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June 29, 2020, 09:39:50 AM
My top NBA players list is the following:

James Lebron
Leonard Kawhi
Giannis Antetokounmpo
James Harden

Why Durant is not included?

I thought he is one of the best in the NBA.

Well, I can't argue that is your picks, and it's your personal opinion..Maybe we can also add westbrook to the list since he once won an MVP award and this guy is very good that could average a tripple double if he wants too, now, the stats has dropped because he paired with James Harden.
I guess we all differ with our picks.
Depends on how you are entertained by these players.

Mine is,
1. Kawhi
2. Durant
3. Curry
4. Irving
5. Lebron

I am a fan of defensive players first then guards.  Grin
Lebron is an exception though since he can score by himself using his power.
But if I will continue the list you might all get shocked and argue.  Grin
Next to Lebron might be PG13.
I don't really like the Harden and Westbrook style. I don't know why.
Maybe because of bad entertainment just like I said.
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June 29, 2020, 08:25:26 AM
My top NBA players list is the following:

James Lebron
Leonard Kawhi
Giannis Antetokounmpo
James Harden

Why Durant is not included?

I thought he is one of the best in the NBA.

Well, I can't argue that is your picks, and it's your personal opinion..Maybe we can also add westbrook to the list since he once won an MVP award and this guy is very good that could average a tripple double if he wants too, now, the stats has dropped because he paired with James Harden.
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June 29, 2020, 08:16:45 AM
My top NBA players list is the following:

James Lebron
Leonard Kawhi
Giannis Antetokounmpo
James Harden
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June 29, 2020, 08:14:18 AM
BEST PLAYERS IN THE NBA (my opinion only)

1) Kevin Durant
2) Lebron James
3) Kawhi Leonard

in any order.

Agree. For the last 5-10 years.
4. Steph Curry (before all the injuries)
Now we have Giannis which could be listed there for the last 4 years.
Consistency wise, KD scores if he wants to. Off-night is not on his vocabulary.  Grin


We almost forget about Curry, well maybe because he wasn't really a star when he started and he can also struggle anytime if you put good defense on him. The top 3 in the list are the real stars in the NBA now, they can always score and I often see them having an off night especially Durant.

About Giannis, I am not too convince with his performance, he might be a dominant player but not a complete player yet IMO, he still needs to improve and prove himself that he can bring his team to the NBA Finals, maybe he can do that as he has an easier journey in the East.
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June 29, 2020, 07:39:09 AM
I think I'll go with Kawhi Leonard though Durant and Lebron James has a better stats per record.
Durant and Lebron both pair with superstars to win a championship while Kawhi does not, Kawhi's fulfilling the dreams of the canadian basketball fan is a big thing for them and for the fans all over the world, so that's enough to prove himself that he is born to become a legit champion.

Hmmm, correct me if Im wrong, Leonard was with Duncan, Parker, and Ginobli when they won against the Heat. Then he had Lowry, and the rising superstars Siakam and Vanvleet against the Injured GSW.
They all have superstars surrounded them when they all win their championships.
Though, I ain't discrediting Leonard for his achievements and don't get me wrong Leonard is one heck of a complete player offensively and defensively and he's among the all time greats, but I just want to clarify things out when you said Leonard didn't pair with superstars.
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June 29, 2020, 12:25:03 AM
I have been hearing guys which call NBA as soft.
Does it really matter?
There is a virus out there.
It's not being soft or how hard Adam Silver is.
When the time comes that the percentage of positive Covid-19 players grows then he must stop it.
I know NBA needed even just ROI of whatever they spent to finish this game but when it comes to health, players will be a priority.
They can still play next year but if infected there is nothing to bring back a.lost life.

Sorry, I am furious with the tweets of idiots.
Exactly, let them be what they think as they could even stop it nor the NBA staff would listen to their opinions, it's just a waste of time for sure. NBA has advisors and experts with them and that's a fact and they'll proceed with what plans they have.
True.
It's just irritating to see people who don't even appreciate what the NBA is trying to do.
One is for the economy. Businesses must run even for just a little bit profit so that they can pay taxes for the government to continue working on their health platforms against Covid-19 and then to provide for those who lose their jobs.

BEST PLAYERS IN THE NBA (my opinion only)

1) Kevin Durant
2) Lebron James
3) Kawhi Leonard

in any order.

Agree. For the last 5-10 years.
4. Steph Curry (before all the injuries)
Now we have Giannis which could be listed there for the last 4 years.
Consistency wise, KD scores if he wants to. Off-night is not on his vocabulary.  Grin
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June 28, 2020, 07:00:30 PM
I think I'll go with Kawhi Leonard though Durant and Lebron James has a better stats per record.
Durant and Lebron both pair with superstars to win a championship while Kawhi does not, Kawhi's fulfilling the dreams of the canadian basketball fan is a big thing for them and for the fans all over the world, so that's enough to prove himself that he is born to become a legit champion.
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