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July 29, 2020, 05:59:48 PM

 Fans are not the only factor though, when you are playing home court at your own state, you are at your home, you are with your family, you get out of your own bed, kiss your wife good bye, you talk to your kids and kiss them good bye as well, you eat at your own kitchen, basically you are all doing stuff at your home. Your driver picks you up, he takes you to the court, and from waking up to going to court you do you. When you are at an away game, team picks you up, puts you on a plane, stucks you into a hotel and you go from there with the team bus, nothing remotely similar.

 Hence I think now everyone at an even fair. There was few times when 8th seed beat first seed in NBA history, but if there is one potential for something like that, its this year, I could see something like that could happen because this period was a major unseen period.
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July 29, 2020, 05:27:58 PM
You can see in numbers 1 and 2 of the article he always says. "Anything could happen"
Without the homecourt advantage, any team can win in season or in playoffs.
Might as well ignore those screen that is showing a "homecourt advantage like" basketball floor.
Be careful with your bets.
Right now I am depending on team lineups.
Homecourt reaaaally doesn't mean anything anymore, there is no fans and that is one of the worst parts I do agree with that but there is also literally no "home" court neither, everyone is in Orlando and all games are played in the same places, so there will not be a "home" to anyone at all, everyone will play at the same place and that is why it doesn't matter who finishes where in the seeding as well as long as you go to playoffs.

Secondly, it matters in the sense that if you are playing 1st seed versus 8th seed, even if there is no home court, there is a psychological fight that goes on when you talk about the difference in talent and there is a reason why first seed is the first seed and the 8th seed is 8th seed for a reason so unless we are talking about 4th versus 5th, it matters to show you are better.

Because without the presence of a live audience, homecourt is not a deciding factor in winning a match, now to win the match
there is about talent and determination. So a team that has a good lineup, is very likely to win even if playing away. There is
no more influence playing home, all teams will have the same pressure.
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July 29, 2020, 05:26:55 PM
Let's put some figure as evidence to compare the NBA and WNBA market, so we will know why NBA has resume and WNBA didn't

Just in case you missed mate, WNBA resumed their season.

And no need for comparing their market. WNBA only has 12 teams and have a 36 games overall in a season.

WNBA resume is easy to prepare compare to NBA so that's what I'm thinking why they push the resume.
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July 29, 2020, 05:22:28 PM
I guess the rest of our national basketball players is enough to play again, I think they are eager to show because they all have been assigned indoors too long during a lockdown, So if we are thinking about weather condition, we can't deny that it seems like a good tune.2020 NBA is a part of our life to enjoy aside from business, I'm sure that the game can make people happy most especially to all pandemic victims.

Weather condition should not be a problems for the team as they are just playing in one venue, no need for them to travel anymore.
If the weather bad, they can just postpone the game for another day, that's it, and besides NBA is played inside the arena, an indoor type of game.

I know everyone is excited, not only those victims of covid-19 literally as we are all victims of it, it took our freedom to go out and do our usual activity.
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July 29, 2020, 03:53:51 PM
You can see in numbers 1 and 2 of the article he always says. "Anything could happen"
Without the homecourt advantage, any team can win in season or in playoffs.
Might as well ignore those screen that is showing a "homecourt advantage like" basketball floor.
Be careful with your bets.
Right now I am depending on team lineups.
Homecourt reaaaally doesn't mean anything anymore, there is no fans and that is one of the worst parts I do agree with that but there is also literally no "home" court neither, everyone is in Orlando and all games are played in the same places, so there will not be a "home" to anyone at all, everyone will play at the same place and that is why it doesn't matter who finishes where in the seeding as well as long as you go to playoffs.
This is a different playoffs, it's expected that surprises will happen here. 
Bad for the teams who are in the top as they've been playing hard to also get that home court advantage, but in the bubble there will be none.
Anyway, this would give us fans a chance to see if which team are really good even not playing at their home.

Secondly, it matters in the sense that if you are playing 1st seed versus 8th seed, even if there is no home court, there is a psychological fight that goes on when you talk about the difference in talent and there is a reason why first seed is the first seed and the 8th seed is 8th seed for a reason so unless we are talking about 4th versus 5th, it matters to show you are better.

Team record always matters but like I said, there might be a lot of surprises in the bubble.
NBA has been off for awhile, they just resume and not in their comfortable places.

as we can see. https://www.teamrankings.com/nba/stat/win-pct-all-games

Lakers and Bucks owns the most home wins, these are the best teams in the NBA now, but let see if without a home court, they can still be consistent in winning.
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July 29, 2020, 03:39:12 PM
You can see in numbers 1 and 2 of the article he always says. "Anything could happen"
Without the homecourt advantage, any team can win in season or in playoffs.
Might as well ignore those screen that is showing a "homecourt advantage like" basketball floor.
Be careful with your bets.
Right now I am depending on team lineups.
Homecourt reaaaally doesn't mean anything anymore, there is no fans and that is one of the worst parts I do agree with that but there is also literally no "home" court neither, everyone is in Orlando and all games are played in the same places, so there will not be a "home" to anyone at all, everyone will play at the same place and that is why it doesn't matter who finishes where in the seeding as well as long as you go to playoffs.

Secondly, it matters in the sense that if you are playing 1st seed versus 8th seed, even if there is no home court, there is a psychological fight that goes on when you talk about the difference in talent and there is a reason why first seed is the first seed and the 8th seed is 8th seed for a reason so unless we are talking about 4th versus 5th, it matters to show you are better.
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July 29, 2020, 11:37:02 AM
Right now that revenue has surely decreased with the less viewership in TV's, no promotion for months and no tickets to be sold. Well, they can still get revenues from ads on TV but it's really a huge loss on merchandise and tickets I suppose.

You can see in numbers 1 and 2 of the article he always says. "Anything could happen"
Without the homecourt advantage, any team can win in season or in playoffs.
Might as well ignore those screen that is showing a "homecourt advantage like" basketball floor.
Be careful with your bets.
Right now I am depending on team lineups.
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July 29, 2020, 10:58:41 AM
Good read guys.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nba-restart-lebron-james-chasing-fourth-ring-kawhi-leonard-as-roaming-assassin-among-20-things-to-watch/
I will grab just a little in that article.
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Milwaukee was on track for 70 wins most of the season. That milestone is out now, but a championship was always the goal, and the Bucks are the favorite to come out of the East. I wouldn't call them the clear favorite. I still question a team that relies on its best player to put his head down and barrel to the rim, and I don't think I'm alone in that.
-(deja vu) Cleveland 2003-2010 and 2014-2018

You can see in numbers 1 and 2 of the article he always says. "Anything could happen"
Without the homecourt advantage, any team can win in season or in playoffs.
Might as well ignore those screen that is showing a "homecourt advantage like" basketball floor.
Be careful with your bets.

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July 29, 2020, 07:51:22 AM
NBA are losing money, good thing we have some owner who make this kind of decision just to make the salary of the players intact, but the question is, how long can they bail this corona virus effect? As per the article, majority of the income are coming from ticket sales, it will impact big time since NBA force to resume without a crowd, hence no ticket sales.

More likely they already discussed this matters and come into conclusion that the pandemic will dissapear after the vaccine will be distributed to the world by the Russian Federation which not be that long if God's will. Not just Russia, I heard UK has passed the initial test of their discovered vaccine and might introduce it sooner to their people. more good news are coming, let's hope this will result for us to come back to our normal lives.
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July 29, 2020, 06:25:12 AM
After Kyrie Irving, I think there will be more players that will do the same.
Maybe you're right and some top players will make individual donate or, maybe NBPA will initiate some financial support for staff and players of WNBA.
Of course, this is to support the basketball for this is the mere reason for their living. This is one way to keep the numbers of fan will be able to continue to support the basketball and for that if help is needed to continue then it is a good decision to help. Besides, they too earning huge because of their talent in basket so it is also a way of paying back to the community or the basketball fans.
I don't think it's a thing that is related to keeping the fans but it's a way to give those WNBA players support as they are also struggling this pandemic.
It's not that Kyrie Irving is paying to the basketball fans but he's helping the WNBA players, the athletes who can't do on to play because of the pandemic. Those players that were affected of covid and decided not to play will get support from the fund that he has donated.
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July 29, 2020, 06:22:51 AM
Players of the GSW warriors are lucky.

NBA rumors: Warriors considering $250M deal to help cap issues during virus

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The Warriors are expected to have the NBA's highest payroll next season. With the coronavirus pandemic expected to impact revenue by forcing the NBA to hold games without fans, the Warriors are in search of ways to lessen the blow if Chase Center's doors have to be shuttered.

Owner Joe Lacob reportedly might have found a way to help mitigate the financial impact the virus will have on the Warriors. Lacob informed other owners he's considering a deal with Goldman Sachs that would raise up to $250 million to help with the Warriors' expenses, ESPN's Brain Windhorst reported Monday.

With four players -- Steph Curry, Klay Thompson, Draymond Green and Andrew Wiggins -- slated to make $22 million or more next season and a $17.2 million trade exception to use, the Warriors could use an injection of capital in order to keep their payroll intact.

The NBA informed its owner that 40 percent of the league's revenue comes from ticket sales and in-arena sponsorships. But the Warriors get 80 percent of their income from games at Chase Center and can make around $5 million in one home game, sources told Windhorst. For other teams, the take from a single home game can be less than $2 million, and others make less than $1 million on average.

NBA are losing money, good thing we have some owner who make this kind of decision just to make the salary of the players intact, but the question is, how long can they bail this corona virus effect? As per the article, majority of the income are coming from ticket sales, it will impact big time since NBA force to resume without a crowd, hence no ticket sales.
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July 29, 2020, 05:58:41 AM
I do not understand why WNBA is not getting more attention, ....

NBA are getting more attention as most basketball fans are men, just like in any sports, there are boxing for women but most boxing fans are watching the boxing for me. However, there are also games where women are popular, and they are getting attention, just like a volleyball games.

Agree. But let us not stop with that.
I still tune in with WNBA live whenever I have time.
I guess that is the downside. Most men will just watch them if there is nothing exciting about other sports or there is free time.
We should still support them, they also have their charities which plays a big factor for those who are in need.

Good find. Thanks.
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July 29, 2020, 04:25:44 AM
[~snip~

Huge difference, WNBA almost non existence when compared to NBA.
Look at the revenue, only $60 million, that's even lower than a salary of the 2 highest paid NBA players.

Thanks for the trivia, didn't know that.
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July 29, 2020, 03:38:22 AM
I do not understand why WNBA is not getting more attention, ....

NBA are getting more attention as most basketball fans are men, just like in any sports, there are boxing for women but most boxing fans are watching the boxing for me. However, there are also games where women are popular, and they are getting attention, just like a volleyball games.

Let's put some figure as evidence to compare the NBA and WNBA market, so we will know why NBA has resume and WNBA didn't

Check the comparison below.



[source] https://www.wsn.com/nba/nba-vs-wnba/
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July 29, 2020, 01:09:11 AM
I do not understand why WNBA is not getting more attention, ....

NBA are getting more attention as most basketball fans are men, just like in any sports, there are boxing for women but most boxing fans are watching the boxing for me. However, there are also games where women are popular, and they are getting attention, just like a volleyball games.
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July 28, 2020, 07:02:59 PM
 I do not understand why WNBA is not getting more attention, I love watching their games because to be perfectly honest they are still x1000 better than me, sure they may not be as good as NBA players, and I wouldn't expect them to because NBA has been around for like... 70 years? And WNBA is brand new comparitively and they do not get the same amount of attention and money and even be a viable career choice because even the WNBA stars go to other nations to make real amount of money and come back to WNBA after that, but to be honest I believe even if "women can't be as good in physical stuff as men", there is still a chance that WNBA could be a lot better if you give a ton of money, attention, more slots on TV, and actual marketing spending tens of millions all around the world to make it a global thing like NBA, you will eventually have superstars there that could actually be so amazing you would basically feel like NBA games of today.

 Meanwhile, I am going to keep watching and keep supporting, what Kyrie Irving did (and I am sure tens of other NBA players will join very soon) is a great thing, if you fix economical stuff in WNBA, you fix almost everything in there as well.
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July 28, 2020, 06:59:44 PM

A big apology for my post. I have just read that WNBA resume and Irving's financial assistance are for those who decide not to participate. A rule that is not mandatory compares to the NBA. Thanks for clarification.

No matter what the violation is as long as it involves in compromising the health of everyone in the bubble must be sanctioned with a permanent suspension in the Orlando bubble.
Come to think of it, the NBA did everything they can to resume their business and make sure everyone is safe and clean. And then there's this individuals who

Unfortunately, never seen a big penalty for those violators. They should suspend these players alongside a decent amount penalty as a fine. 10 days quarantine is not enough and 2 game suspension. If that so, it's easy to violate the protocol as all players will just face a not that strict penalty.

But actually, no need for protocol. These players should be matured enough to think that the virus should be taken seriously. A hard-headed so I'm sided with Perkins tweet against Lou.

They need to receive a penalty that is quite huge for them. So they know that this situation is really pretty serious. Everybody's health is at stake not only them. If they can afford to be hospitalized receiving premium health care assistance, there are people around them that can't.

But I'm happy that NBA season resumes, sportbookies will be busy again.
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July 28, 2020, 06:57:42 PM

A big apology for my post. I have just read that WNBA resume and Irving's financial assistance are for those who decide not to participate. A rule that is not mandatory compares to the NBA. Thanks for clarification.

No matter what the violation is as long as it involves in compromising the health of everyone in the bubble must be sanctioned with a permanent suspension in the Orlando bubble.
Come to think of it, the NBA did everything they can to resume their business and make sure everyone is safe and clean. And then there's this individuals who

Unfortunately, never seen a big penalty for those violators. They should suspend these players alongside a decent amount penalty as a fine. 10 days quarantine is not enough and 2 game suspension. If that so, it's easy to violate the protocol as all players will just face a not that strict penalty.

But actually, no need for protocol. These players should be matured enough to think that the virus should be taken seriously. A hard-headed so I'm sided with Perkins tweet against Lou.
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July 28, 2020, 05:58:14 PM

Maybe they realized that WNBA is not a big market as the NBA, so sacrificing the safety and to spend million again to resume is not viable for the organization, so with this, I think all eyes are on the NBA season resumption now.

Made sense. I don't know what exactly happened in the WNBA bubble (not a fan), but I have read an article early this month how messy the bubble was, specially that women are very meticulous on the environment sanitary and comfort satisfactory standard.

Him not to be able to play in the first game of the reopening, that's already a sanction, the team needs him as they are facing the Lakers here.
No Lou Williams, Beverly, and Montrezl Harrell, I doubt they'll win against the Lakers.  I wonder what are the sanctions of those who previously caught violating the rules.

No matter what the violation is as long as it involves in compromising the health of everyone in the bubble must be sanctioned with a permanent suspension in the Orlando bubble.
Come to think of it, the NBA did everything they can to resume their business and make sure everyone is safe and clean. And then there's this individuals who carelessly roaming around as If he's covid proof.
Suspension from the bubble is the most appropriate disciplinary action the NBA would take.
Athletes are supposed to have a strong self discipline, but what Lou did is the complete opposite.
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July 28, 2020, 05:56:59 PM
After Kyrie Irving, I think there will be more players that will do the same.
Maybe you're right and some top players will make individual donate or, maybe NBPA will initiate some financial support for staff and players of WNBA.
Of course, this is to support the basketball for this is the mere reason for their living. This is one way to keep the numbers of fan will be able to continue to support the basketball and for that if help is needed to continue then it is a good decision to help. Besides, they too earning huge because of their talent in basket so it is also a way of paying back to the community or the basketball fans.
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