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Quote from: Ziskinberg on June 06, 2020, 04:08:33 AM

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What do you guys think, who will secure those playoff spots?

For the West, I think Spurs will make it, I trust coach Pop in crucial situation like this, then they will upset the Lakers. Grin

Here is another bad news for the Spurs, which will cost them this season.

LaMarcus Aldridge underwent arthroscopic procedure and rotator cuff debridement on his right shoulder in April and it’s announced that he will miss the remainder of the 2019-20 season.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.poundingtherock.com/platform/amp/2020/6/8/21284396/lamarcus-aldridge-undergoes-shoulder-surgery-will-miss-the-remainder-of-the-season

San Antonio is 27-36; 5 games out of the 8th seed. So their chances became even slimmer.

Quote from: yazher on June 08, 2020, 08:10:51 AM

I think this is a nice start for him if he got hired as a coach for the San Antonio Spurs. He can prove to everyone what he really got on coaching the team. Unlike Derek Fisher and Jason Kidd, Tim is starting to coach in his past team since the other players know him so well they will surely have strong bond together.

Tim Duncan will eventually become the head coach for the Spurs, he's just waiting for his turn, as well as learning the ropes beside Pop as an assistant coach. Infact, he already had his head coaching debut
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nba.com/amp/league/article/2020/03/03/spurs-tim-duncan-make-head-coaching-debut when Pop was out and It went well for him.

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Well, they have Becky Hammon as the leading assistant coach in that team. Sure Duncan is getting all the attention as the assistant head coach right now because lets face it he is either the best power forward to play the game or he is up there, dude with 5 titles and some FMVP to go with it, so it is not a shock that if you have that option you make him the head coach.

However Becky is not a joke neither, that woman has been by Pops side for years now and she knows every single thing about him in and out. So, if one day Pop decides to retire and Duncan declines the job offer, I would say there is 2 really great candidates, either Mike Bud or Becky. Mike is also a Pop assistant back in the day and he took the ropes at Hawks job and made them a 62 win team and we all know how awesome he is now with Bucks as well. Both of those are really good options if you ask me.

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Quote from: Rosilito on June 08, 2020, 07:26:40 AM

Yeah, I agree!

And about the inheriting stuff. That's great if it happens Grin

. And I must say... it is the most possible scenario in the future since there aren't any sort of sign who will take up the spurs except Timmy.

I believe Timmy would handle the team very well as he's been with the spurs on his entire 19-year career an additional qualities he could offer to the team. And been under the guidance of Gregg Popovich alone since his draft. Imagine the bond, and experiences they shared. Probably Timmy had learned a lot about it, not to mention that he is an assistant coach right now next to Pop.

I think this is a nice start for him if he got hired as a coach for the San Antonio Spurs. He can prove to everyone what he really got on coaching the team. Unlike Derek Fisher and Jason Kidd, Tim is starting to coach in his past team since the other players know him so well they will surely have strong bond together.

Here's an interview back in March 2020.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=9CZtYvSXS1M

He was already being trained for the position.
The better part is, it was Pops at his side which we all know as one of the best coach in NBA.
I doubt he will have a difficult time bringing the new team to respect him.
Duncan is someone who had won championships, you could not disrespect a man who have that kind of achievement.
The most unforgettable one was that 1 block more for a quadruple double.
He actually did it but just didn't put the other block on record.

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Quote from: Rosilito on June 08, 2020, 07:26:40 AM

Yeah, I agree!

And about the inheriting stuff. That's great if it happens Grin

. And I must say... it is the most possible scenario in the future since there aren't any sort of sign who will take up the spurs except Timmy.

I believe Timmy would handle the team very well as he's been with the spurs on his entire 19-year career an additional qualities he could offer to the team. And been under the guidance of Gregg Popovich alone since his draft. Imagine the bond, and experiences they shared. Probably Timmy had learned a lot about it, not to mention that he is an assistant coach right now next to Pop.

I think this is a nice start for him if he got hired as a coach for the San Antonio Spurs. He can prove to everyone what he really got on coaching the team. Unlike Derek Fisher and Jason Kidd, Tim is starting to coach in his past team since the other players know him so well they will surely have strong bond together.

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Quote from: Maslate on June 08, 2020, 02:51:25 AM

Quote from: Finestream on June 07, 2020, 06:56:02 PM

TBH, these young core of the Spurs now are nowhere near to the big 3 of the spurs before (Duncan, Parker, and Ginóbili). so I don't expect spurs will be successful if they will not get another star players that have already prove himself from a team he is playing with now.

I think we will never see this kind of line up of the spurs anymore, and coach pop time with the Basketball will be over soon, so we can't expect that the one who inherit the coaching job will be as good as him. I heard Timmy has a good chance of getting that spot, anyway, that's just a rumor, but I'll be very glad to see him as the coach of the spurs and let's see if he can be a great coach like a player he was.

https://www.expressnews.com/sports/spurs/article/Tim-Duncan-s-future-a-hot-topic-after-San-15105988.php

Yeah, I agree!

And about the inheriting stuff. That's great if it happens Grin

. And I must say... it is the most possible scenario in the future since there aren't any sort of sign who will take up the spurs except Timmy.

I believe Timmy would handle the team very well as he's been with the spurs on his entire 19-year career an additional qualities he could offer to the team. And been under the guidance of Gregg Popovich alone since his draft. Imagine the bond, and experiences they shared. Probably Timmy had learned a lot about it, not to mention that he is an assistant coach right now next to Pop.

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Quote from: Maslate on June 08, 2020, 02:51:25 AM

Quote from: Finestream on June 07, 2020, 06:56:02 PM

TBH, these young core of the Spurs now are nowhere near to the big 3 of the spurs before (Duncan, Parker, and Ginóbili). so I don't expect spurs will be successful if they will not get another star players that have already prove himself from a team he is playing with now.

I think we will never see this kind of line up of the spurs anymore, and coach pop time with the Basketball will be over soon, so we can't expect that the one who inherit the coaching job will be as good as him. I heard Timmy has a good chance of getting that spot, anyway, that's just a rumor, but I'll be very glad to see him as the coach of the spurs and let's see if he can be a great coach like a player he was.

https://www.expressnews.com/sports/spurs/article/Tim-Duncan-s-future-a-hot-topic-after-San-15105988.php

Just don't laugh at the bench again or Joey Crawford will go back to call it a tech. Grin

If there is one who knows the plays of Pops then it will be him.
His patient and can connect with the team so he might be the best for that position.
If not, then give him the assistant coach position, then maybe, he could learn more.
We know some players don't respect coaches who are not that old yet. Happened with Erik Spoelstra of Miami Heat.

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Quote from: Maslate on June 08, 2020, 02:51:25 AM

Quote from: Finestream on June 07, 2020, 06:56:02 PM

TBH, these young core of the Spurs now are nowhere near to the big 3 of the spurs before (Duncan, Parker, and Ginóbili). so I don't expect spurs will be successful if they will not get another star players that have already prove himself from a team he is playing with now.

I think we will never see this kind of line up of the spurs anymore, and coach pop time with the Basketball will be over soon, so we can't expect that the one who inherit the coaching job will be as good as him. I heard Timmy has a good chance of getting that spot, anyway, that's just a rumor, but I'll be very glad to see him as the coach of the spurs and let's see if he can be a great coach like a player he was.

https://www.expressnews.com/sports/spurs/article/Tim-Duncan-s-future-a-hot-topic-after-San-15105988.php

I agree with that, coach Pop and the big 3 Duncan, Parker, and Ginóbili are a good fit, after they retire, spurs was slowly going down in ranking.
This is like coach Phil Jackson Jackson and the Lakers, when Kobe was injured and he left for the Knicks, Lakers suddenly become a non playoff contender team.

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Quote from: Finestream on June 07, 2020, 06:56:02 PM

TBH, these young core of the Spurs now are nowhere near to the big 3 of the spurs before (Duncan, Parker, and Ginóbili). so I don't expect spurs will be successful if they will not get another star players that have already prove himself from a team he is playing with now.

I think we will never see this kind of line up of the spurs anymore, and coach pop time with the Basketball will be over soon, so we can't expect that the one who inherit the coaching job will be as good as him. I heard Timmy has a good chance of getting that spot, anyway, that's just a rumor, but I'll be very glad to see him as the coach of the spurs and let's see if he can be a great coach like a player he was.

https://www.expressnews.com/sports/spurs/article/Tim-Duncan-s-future-a-hot-topic-after-San-15105988.php

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Quote from: Rikafip on June 07, 2020, 06:51:29 AM

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By the way, on this day 27 years ago, Drazen Petrovic died in a tragic car accident. He was the first big Euro star in NBA and by many best Euro player ever. In his last season (1992-1993) he was averaging 22.3 pts, on 52/45/87 shooting, and I am sure that in the next season he would entered that prestigious 50/40/90 club. No Euro player before him had such numbers back in those days, when NBA generally considered players from Europe as 2nd rate players, not giving them any freedom. Younger NBA fans probably never heared about him, but this is what Reggie Miller had to say when they asked him about best shooters
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7AhrUIc87o

Despite having some very talented players like Kukoc and Radja, our (Croatian) national basketball team never recovered from his death, as he was was our captain and leader. If there was ever European basketball player that could be compared to MJ based on his main traits (competitiveness, leadership and work ethic) that would be Drazen.

RIP to the legend. I first heard of Drazen in documentaries.

I don't know the complete details (and I don't wanna go there) but had Yugoslavia remained intact, they could have dominated the World basketball longer and their national team would have given the 1992 Dream team real problems or even defeat them. Who knows?

Quote from: tbterryboy on June 07, 2020, 12:46:52 PM

It is okay though, they are still young, from Murray to White to Walker they have great youngsters, Jakob has been playing very well too, so they actually have a great young core that could get better with time, so they can miss the playoffs as long as they keep on improving with the team they have.

Looks nice in theory but we gotta consider the fact that these young cores could be separated at anytime. Murray will probably stay and become the next face of the franchise but we couldn't say the same to the other youngster.

Quote from: Finestream on June 07, 2020, 06:56:02 PM

TBH, these young core of the Spurs now are nowhere near to the big 3 of the spurs before (Duncan, Parker, and Ginóbili). so I don't expect spurs will be successful if they will not get another star players that have already prove himself from a team he is playing with now.

Definitely not but they're performing quite well. In fact, these youngsters are outperforming some of their seniors. That's a good thing and bad thing at the same time. It would have been better if the likes of DeRozan would set an example for them.

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Quote from: Rikafip on June 07, 2020, 09:59:41 AM

Quote from: Reid on June 07, 2020, 09:42:57 AM

Here is something to commemorate him.
Just ignore the title and the description. We cannot deny that Jordan had been the face of NBA that year.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfqsyb4M2h8
@11:31 He passed 5 players of the Bulls. Wink

Yeah saw that video, and many others. That's what I usually do on this date, watch Drazen videos on YouTube.

Little piece of trivia: Rudy Tomjanovich, who was then Houston Rockets coach, wanted to bring Drazen as he was becoming free agent. He knew that Drazen was one of the the best shooters in the NBA and wanted to pair him with Olajuwon, who as we know was the most dominant center of that time. That could have been a deadly combo, Drazen outside and Hakeem in the paint.
But unfortunately, that never happened as Drazen decided to travel to Croatia from Poland via car and not airplane with rest of the Croatian national team, as he wanted to spend some time with his girlfriend..

That could have been unstoppable.
With Robert Horry in his prime. Grin

You just never know.
Even if its thru plane, when it's your time you cannot do anything about it.
Just like what happened with Kobe. Accident numbers in helicopters are not that high and yet...

https://qz.com/1791791/helicopter-crashes-like-kobe-bryants-have-become-more-common/

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Quote from: tbterryboy on June 07, 2020, 12:46:52 PM

Spurs has made playoff 20+ seasons in a row, there is really no other franchise that is as good as them at longevity, they are also 5 time winners in that 20 year period as well. So, I do like them and I trust their capabilities as well but right now it is just too late.

There's still games to be played, and the team who will win will get the last spot in the West.
Very little possibility of the Spurs to be in the playoffs now, but we know that this team won't give up, they gets better if the situation really needs them to be.

Quote from: tbterryboy on June 07, 2020, 12:46:52 PM

If it was regular season and there was some more games left maybe they could have but unfortunately there isn't that much game left and all of them are against high level teams so it is not going to be possible for them I believe.

I think when NBA come back, we can still consider it as a regular season since the winners (east and west) will quality for the playoff spot, the last post to be exact.

Quote from: tbterryboy on June 07, 2020, 12:46:52 PM

It is okay though, they are still young, from Murray to White to Walker they have great youngsters, Jakob has been playing very well too, so they actually have a great young core that could get better with time, so they can miss the playoffs as long as they keep on improving with the team they have.

TBH, these young core of the Spurs now are nowhere near to the big 3 of the spurs before (Duncan, Parker, and Ginóbili). so I don't expect spurs will be successful if they will not get another star players that have already prove himself from a team he is playing with now.

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Spurs has made playoff 20+ seasons in a row, there is really no other franchise that is as good as them at longevity, they are also 5 time winners in that 20 year period as well. So, I do like them and I trust their capabilities as well but right now it is just too late. If it was regular season and there was some more games left maybe they could have but unfortunately there isn't that much game left and all of them are against high level teams so it is not going to be possible for them I believe.

It is okay though, they are still young, from Murray to White to Walker they have great youngsters, Jakob has been playing very well too, so they actually have a great young core that could get better with time, so they can miss the playoffs as long as they keep on improving with the team they have.

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Quote from: freedomgo on June 07, 2020, 07:02:39 AM

Quote from: Oasisman on June 07, 2020, 05:57:41 AM

Yes, Pop is an outstanding coach, but It's all about team play, coaches and players must always be in sync.

Spurs made a wrong decision.

San Antonio Spurs trade Kawhi Leonard to Toronto Raptors for DeMar DeRozan, others

Leonard is a special player, while DeRozan is good but inconsistent, this is one of the big mistake the Spurs made in their franchise.
If they have traded Leonard to someone else, a star of course, Spurs might still has a good chance to be in the playoff spot now.

If my memory serves me right, it was Kawhi who want the trade to happen as soon as possible.
After that, the locker room news became viral which we don't know if is accurate or not.

DeRozan was a star back then but yes, he was inconsistent.
I think it was the lack of option for Spurs to where they could trade Kawhi which is why they ended up getting DeRozan.
But this is not the Spurs problem. They are hit hard when their stars got old and needs to retire.
Pops can still do it, but he lacks the right pieces to make it happen.

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Quote from: Reid on June 07, 2020, 09:42:57 AM

Here is something to commemorate him.
Just ignore the title and the description. We cannot deny that Jordan had been the face of NBA that year.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfqsyb4M2h8
@11:31 He passed 5 players of the Bulls. Wink

Yeah saw that video, and many others. That's what I usually do on this date, watch Drazen videos on YouTube.

Little piece of trivia: Rudy Tomjanovich, who was then Houston Rockets coach, wanted to bring Drazen as he was becoming free agent. He knew that Drazen was one of the the best shooters in the NBA and wanted to pair him with Olajuwon, who as we know was the most dominant center of that time. That could have been a deadly combo, Drazen outside and Hakeem in the paint.
But unfortunately, that never happened as Drazen decided to travel to Croatia from Poland via car and not airplane with rest of the Croatian national team, as he wanted to spend some time with his girlfriend..

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Quote from: Rosilito on June 07, 2020, 05:08:32 AM

Possibly, they are going push traditional playoff format, right? 8 teams in each conferences.

Since this is just a mere rumors, they aren't going to push 1-16 seeding format 'cause if not then the idea of tanking stuff won't be effective or not a best choice to do so Cheesy

Yes, they are.
Changing it will be difficult now.
Maybe next season, they will have a new format.

Quote from: Rikafip on June 07, 2020, 06:51:29 AM

By the way, on this day 27 years ago, Drazen Petrovic died in a tragic car accident. He was the first big Euro star in NBA and by many best Euro player ever. In his last season (1992-1993) he was averaging 22.3 pts, on 52/45/87 shooting, and I am sure that in the next season he would entered that prestigious 50/40/90 club.

Here is something to commemorate him.
Just ignore the title and the description. We cannot deny that Jordan had been the face of NBA that year.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfqsyb4M2h8
@11:31 He passed 5 players of the Bulls. Wink

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Quote from: freedomgo on June 07, 2020, 07:02:39 AM

Spurs made a wrong decision.

Leonard is a special player, while DeRozan is good but inconsistent, this is one of the big mistake the Spurs made in their franchise.
If they have traded Leonard to someone else, a star of course, Spurs might still has a good chance to be in the playoff spot now.

Spurs didn't have much options, they simply took what they could for Kawhi, as he simply wanted to leave. Pop even went to his home trying to talk him into staying, offering him supermax contract of 221 million USD for 5 years, money that no other team could offer him, and yet he didn't want to stay. Just to show you how much money he passed, he is currently on 3/101 million USD contract, shit load less than what he could have made if he stayed.

The other important thing that was issue for Spurs is that he was entering his last year of contract, and those players have lower value, since you never know whether they will stay or not. So let's say you give your big star for Kawhi, it doesn't work out, and he leaves your team after 1 year. Toronto gambled, they won the title vs GSW that was gimped with injuries, and it paid off. And after that he left them. Imagine if Raptors faced healthy GSW and probably lost the title, they would feel kinda stupid..

So, Spurs did what they could, but unfortunately, when player want's to leave, you can't do much. And you can't get the players that other team don't want to offer.

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Quote from: Oasisman on June 07, 2020, 05:57:41 AM

Yes, Pop is an outstanding coach, but It's all about team play, coaches and players must always be in sync.

Spurs made a wrong decision.

San Antonio Spurs trade Kawhi Leonard to Toronto Raptors for DeMar DeRozan, others

Leonard is a special player, while DeRozan is good but inconsistent, this is one of the big mistake the Spurs made in their franchise.
If they have traded Leonard to someone else, a star of course, Spurs might still has a good chance to be in the playoff spot now.

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Quote from: Reid on June 07, 2020, 04:45:50 AM

Indeed, they might use different strategies. Like letting one team win for their own advantage.
Strengths and weaknesses will be seen or how many wins they made during the season against the team they will let to get the 8th spot.

That's true, some teams simply fits you more than the others, due various reasons. It is kinda risky though, to try get the team you have good score against. Maybe weaker teams will try to do something like that, but not the top ones like Lakers, Clippers and Bucks.

By the way, on this day 27 years ago, Drazen Petrovic died in a tragic car accident. He was the first big Euro star in NBA and by many best Euro player ever. In his last season (1992-1993) he was averaging 22.3 pts, on 52/45/87 shooting, and I am sure that in the next season he would entered that prestigious 50/40/90 club. No Euro player before him had such numbers back in those days, when NBA generally considered players from Europe as 2nd rate players, not giving them any freedom. Younger NBA fans probably never heared about him, but this is what Reggie Miller had to say when they asked him about best shooters
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7AhrUIc87o

Despite having some very talented players like Kukoc and Radja, our (Croatian) national basketball team never recovered from his death, as he was was our captain and leader. If there was ever European basketball player that could be compared to MJ based on his main traits (competitiveness, leadership and work ethic) that would be Drazen.

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Quote from: Rikafip on June 06, 2020, 02:12:49 AM

What do you guys think, who will secure those playoff spots?

The Brooklyn Nets have a much easier opponents if they let Kyrie and DeAndre play, but I guess they'll secure the 7th spot anyway without their big 3.
And it seems that the Wizard will have a very slim chances to catch on the 8th seed behind 6 games from the Magic and Nets.
While the Western teams will surely have a tight competition on the 8th spot. Also, Pelicans going for the 8th seed is possible as they only have easier schedule compared to other teams on the bottom seed.

Quote from: Ziskinberg on June 06, 2020, 04:08:33 AM

For the East, I'll go for the Magic to take the last spot.

For the West, I think Spurs will make it, I trust coach Pop in crucial situation like this, then they will upset the Lakers. Grin

I doubt the Spurs, their schedule ain't easy. They're playing against the top seeded teams in the West.
Looking at how the Spurs are performing this season, It doesn't seem like they are capable of betting the Lakers in a seven game series. Yes, Pop is an outstanding coach, but It's all about team play, coaches and players must always be in sync.

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