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Quote from: Sanitough on January 31, 2020, 06:24:50 PM

Quote from: cabalism13 on January 31, 2020, 05:41:44 PM

I think it's not just about about money,

When you talk about money, the NY Knicks have the money as they are in NY where businesses are booming and attracting fans to watch the game would not be hard.

Quote from: cabalism13 on January 31, 2020, 05:41:44 PM

we have known before that even in sports there are some common issues that can't be explain thouroughly on public, we really can't blame them if they'd just waited after 2 decades.

No team would wait for 2 decades to remain as shitty team, it looks like all their effort are wasted since nothing happens to the team despite of the effort that they are trying to make Knicks a great team again.

Well, as I said, there might be some issues that can't be explained through the public, we might not have the idea why they suck on this past years but certainly the possibilities are high of having them criticize after the games they intend to bring to the public.

Money is just a one side thing so I really don't think any team could have any problem of that. Besides all of the NBA Players are already considered as Stars. (AFAIK)

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Quote from: cabalism13 on January 31, 2020, 05:41:44 PM

I think it's not just about about money,

When you talk about money, the NY Knicks have the money as they are in NY where businesses are booming and attracting fans to watch the game would not be hard.

Quote from: cabalism13 on January 31, 2020, 05:41:44 PM

we have known before that even in sports there are some common issues that can't be explain thouroughly on public, we really can't blame them if they'd just waited after 2 decades.

No team would wait for 2 decades to remain as shitty team, it looks like all their effort are wasted since nothing happens to the team despite of the effort that they are trying to make Knicks a great team again.

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So LaVine and Gordon's rematch will now finally happen*. Although LaVine still not confirmed, he's the one who started this rematch thing after the majority seems not happy with the outcome of the Dunk Contest last year.

For those who forgot, this is all where it started:

2/2019 Zach LaVine Hints At Dunk Contest Rematch With Aaron Gordon On Cryptic Instagram Post
8/2019 Aaron Gordon sends out a challenge for 2020 Dunk Contest

Actually, I almost forgot this challenge since I think that won't happen again soon. But now we can assume it is on an 80% chance to happen. And Dwight Howard, again, will surely entertain the crowd as he did before. And another confirmed participant Derrick Jones Jr., I'm waiting for the creativity of this guy. His leaping ability is closed to Lavine and Gordon.

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Knicks have sucked for 2 decades.

That's for bringing facts and educating us, I don't know its already 2 decades, that's 20 years, right.
I don't know when they will wake up but 20 years is too much to still continue as a shitty team.

New York is a very popular city in America that generates a lot of income, how come It seems that their management didn't do something to improve their line up.
The Knicks only have a decent line up with Melo (I don't remember what year was it) after that, It became worse every year. 2 decades is such a hilarious length of time for a team to consistently struggle lol.

I think it's not just about about money, we have known before that even in sports there are some common issues that can't be explain thouroughly on public, we really can't blame them if they'd just waited after 2 decades.

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As far as money and the knicks, every team lives with a salary cap so the knicks cant just throw more money at the issue, they just need to construct a good team starting with hitting on some of their draft picks.

For me, their priority now should be getting a star player to lead the young players, if they can get at least close to Lebron James equivalent, that would be very helpful. They are in a big market and yet they don't have a star, they need to give the fans a real entertainment and that would only happen if there's something who could bring hype to the team, just like what Luka did with the Mavericks.

It's very important to have a good star player who can big some lift to all those young players. If they can get and offer a good leading star
to carry their franchise, this season still early and if before the deadline they've able to catch one or more good star/stars to help them to
much better position.

Ypu cant buy a free agent mid season, only a trade. And the only trades knicks should make is one for draft capital. That will be the way to trade for a bonafide star. But they NEED to hit on one of their picks. Knox, franky N, these guys wont cut it. Hopefully rj becomes a star and they can build off of that.

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Quote from: Natalim on January 31, 2020, 09:36:16 AM

Quote from: wheelz1200 on January 31, 2020, 09:30:11 AM

As far as money and the knicks, every team lives with a salary cap so the knicks cant just throw more money at the issue, they just need to construct a good team starting with hitting on some of their draft picks.

For me, their priority now should be getting a star player to lead the young players, if they can get at least close to Lebron James equivalent, that would be very helpful. They are in a big market and yet they don't have a star, they need to give the fans a real entertainment and that would only happen if there's something who could bring hype to the team, just like what Luka did with the Mavericks.

It's very important to have a good star player who can big some lift to all those young players. If they can get and offer a good leading star
to carry their franchise, this season still early and if before the deadline they've able to catch one or more good star/stars to help them to
much better position.

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on January 31, 2020, 09:30:11 AM

As far as money and the knicks, every team lives with a salary cap so the knicks cant just throw more money at the issue, they just need to construct a good team starting with hitting on some of their draft picks.

For me, their priority now should be getting a star player to lead the young players, if they can get at least close to Lebron James equivalent, that would be very helpful. They are in a big market and yet they don't have a star, they need to give the fans a real entertainment and that would only happen if there's something who could bring hype to the team, just like what Luka did with the Mavericks.

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Knicks can recover from all of it but they need a total change with their roster. 1 star may be enough and 1 veteran to give good insights.

Not sure who can save them but I have one guy in my mind right now.
We are aware that Leonard likes to transfer in a team after he give a team a championship, maybe if Leonard will give the Clippers a championship this season, he would go the NY Knicks after his contract expires, I mean, he is the most qualified guy to make the team a playoff team, just like what he did with the Raptors which he even gave them their first championship.

Leonard signed 3 years with Clippers - https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2845018-kawhi-leonard-reportedly-signs-3-year-103m-max-contract-with-clippers

but he will ask to be traded like what he did with the spurs back then, then then my imagination might come into reality.

But this time leonard is staying in LA, he is a so cal guy. This is the first year he got to pick what team he wants to be on he isnt leaving and LA wouldn't be trading him even if he asks.

As far as money and the knicks, every team lives with a salary cap so the knicks cant just throw more money at the issue, they just need to construct a good team starting with hitting on some of their draft picks.

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Quote from: Reid on January 31, 2020, 06:50:02 AM

Knicks can recover from all of it but they need a total change with their roster. 1 star may be enough and 1 veteran to give good insights.

Not sure who can save them but I have one guy in my mind right now.
We are aware that Leonard likes to transfer in a team after he give a team a championship, maybe if Leonard will give the Clippers a championship this season, he would go the NY Knicks after his contract expires, I mean, he is the most qualified guy to make the team a playoff team, just like what he did with the Raptors which he even gave them their first championship.

Leonard signed 3 years with Clippers - https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2845018-kawhi-leonard-reportedly-signs-3-year-103m-max-contract-with-clippers

but he will ask to be traded like what he did with the spurs back then, then then my imagination might come into reality.

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Quote from: Sanitough on January 31, 2020, 05:33:34 AM

Quote from: Oasisman on January 31, 2020, 04:52:25 AM

The Knicks only have a decent line up with Melo (I don't remember what year was it) after that, It became worse every year. 2 decades is such a hilarious length of time for a team to consistently struggle lol.

Maybe they got disappointed with getting Melo and now they are trying to rebuild but they've been figuring it out for decades and still can't find a solution to improve the team. It was Brooklyn who are more eager to improve that's why they sign Durant and Irving altogether, but as of now they are still in experimentation stage as there's not guarantee Durant would be the same Durant when he comes back.

If Knicks will improve in the following season then surely the East would also be fun to watch, right now, there are only few good teams in the East.

If they can't figure it by this time, then something is wrong with the New York management here. They have the money and the experience if I'm right, it's just a matter of execution I guess.

Fans are getting disappointed with the Knicks and I would say that they are the laughing stock of the league. Teams are improving, willing to shell out millions if not billions to get things done, but the Knicks management is going on the opposite side of the pole.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on January 31, 2020, 02:47:11 AM

Quote from: wheelz1200 on January 31, 2020, 02:24:33 AM

Allan houston era was the last good one with all the miami rivalry games. Knicks had one decent season with melo and even then they were never in position to go far in the playoffs, they need to stack draft assets and hope one of these draft picks hit

personally I don't know the guy, maybe you really are a long time fan of NBA. salute to you!

He was signed at Knicks 1996. Well, Knicks was already good at that time and even went to the Finals at 93.
Why?
Talk about a good roster.
Ewing, Starks, Doc Rivers, Harper, Mason and Oakley. The team of Giants. Grin

They lost against the Houston at 93 but after that, they had been always a playoffs contender and even winning against the Bulls at 96.

Their last playoffs appearance was 2012-13 with a gigantic roster too.
Carmelo, Marcus Camby, Amare Stoudemire, Tyson Chandler, Kenyon Martin.
Their small line up are JR Smith, Jason Kidd, Raymond Felton and Quentin Richardson.
Who else could you ask for?

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Quote from: Sanitough on January 31, 2020, 05:33:34 AM

Quote from: Oasisman on January 31, 2020, 04:52:25 AM

The Knicks only have a decent line up with Melo (I don't remember what year was it) after that, It became worse every year. 2 decades is such a hilarious length of time for a team to consistently struggle lol.

Maybe they got disappointed with getting Melo and now they are trying to rebuild but they've been figuring it out for decades and still can't find a solution to improve the team. It was Brooklyn who are more eager to improve that's why they sign Durant and Irving altogether, but as of now they are still in experimentation stage as there's not guarantee Durant would be the same Durant when he comes back.

If Knicks will improve in the following season then surely the East would also be fun to watch, right now, there are only few good teams in the East.

I think it was Stephen Smith which is really mad about it.
The guy is a pure Knicks fan and when Brooklyn signed Durant and Irving on the first place he was so mad at First Take.

I can still remember his face. He don't want to lose with any arguments about it.
And then, they let Kristaps go which made him real angry. Cheesy

Knicks can recover from all of it but they need a total change with their roster. 1 star may be enough and 1 veteran to give good insights.

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Quote from: Oasisman on January 31, 2020, 04:52:25 AM

The Knicks only have a decent line up with Melo (I don't remember what year was it) after that, It became worse every year. 2 decades is such a hilarious length of time for a team to consistently struggle lol.

Maybe they got disappointed with getting Melo and now they are trying to rebuild but they've been figuring it out for decades and still can't find a solution to improve the team. It was Brooklyn who are more eager to improve that's why they sign Durant and Irving altogether, but as of now they are still in experimentation stage as there's not guarantee Durant would be the same Durant when he comes back.

If Knicks will improve in the following season then surely the East would also be fun to watch, right now, there are only few good teams in the East.

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on January 31, 2020, 02:24:33 AM

Knicks have sucked for 2 decades.

That's for bringing facts and educating us, I don't know its already 2 decades, that's 20 years, right.
I don't know when they will wake up but 20 years is too much to still continue as a shitty team.

New York is a very popular city in America that generates a lot of income, how come It seems that their management didn't do something to improve their line up.
The Knicks only have a decent line up with Melo (I don't remember what year was it) after that, It became worse every year. 2 decades is such a hilarious length of time for a team to consistently struggle lol.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on January 31, 2020, 02:47:11 AM

personally I don't know the guy, maybe you really are a long time fan of NBA. salute to you!

Me either, but according to my research, this guy has played his last season in the NBA on 2004-05 season.
source : https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/houstal01.html

his average is not so great, I don't know why the knicks that time is better compared after the succeeding season, maybe those who can tell are those who were actively watching that time.

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on January 31, 2020, 02:24:33 AM

Knicks have sucked for 2 decades.

That's for bringing facts and educating us, I don't know its already 2 decades, that's 20 years, right.
I don't know when they will wake up but 20 years is too much to still continue as a shitty team.

Quote from: wheelz1200 on January 31, 2020, 02:24:33 AM

Allan houston era was the last good one with all the miami rivalry games. Knicks had one decent season with melo and even then they were never in position to go far in the playoffs, they need to stack draft assets and hope one of these draft picks hit

personally I don't know the guy, maybe you really are a long time fan of NBA. salute to you!

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on January 30, 2020, 05:55:45 PM

Hopefully they arent dumb enough to keep these guys around for what is essentially another lost season.

The NY Knicks has become a disappointment team after Melo traded to OKlahoma Thunder, they were better with Melo as they experience to be in the playoffs. https://www.nba.com/article/2017/09/25/new-york-knicks-trade-carmelo-anthony-oklahoma-city-thunder

They need to rebuild again with young players, change the management or hire a new coach, AGAIN.
If the teams like Celtics have success with rebuilding, they sure can do that also..

Look OKC now, we thought they'll be a shitty team but they weren't they were full of surprises with Paul.
I wish one day we can see this team to be more competitive again.

Knicks have sucked for 2 decades. Allan houston era was the last good one with all the miami rivalry games. Knicks had one decent season with melo and even then they were never in position to go far in the playoffs, they need to stack draft assets and hope one of these draft picks hit

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it is the matter of how would they be composed on that hard game.

That's exactly what they need to do, in the last east finals, they lost their composure during the last 4 games so they lose against the Raptors.
Possibly they can beat the Raptors now with the current line up, but they might struggle again facing other teams, so they need to pass that challenge.

Well it is really tough to handle frustrations especially if you are so eager to win but patience is a virtue, eventually they will find a good way to break that defense. Also, they should use the aura of Giannis so they can rotate the offense to other players. I just hope Giannis would not be forced to do something that might end up having himself an injury.

Chances that they've matured enough not to focused with Giannis alone will help them to have a better chances to win the eastern finals.
With how they are playing right now and how they move the ball it's good to see a well balanced rotations, even Giannis is their main offensive
weapon but the supporting cast are also bringing the challenge and contributes.

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It will be a different playoffs now for the Bucks as Giannis can shoot threes now.

The question is, if he will be given a good looks, their opponent knows his capabilities, last playoffs the Raptors put good defense on Giannis but putting two defender on him and sometimes even 3 and that made him struggle, so as the whole team.

Right, as playoffs are different atmosphere and the defense is tighter than regular games. I think if Giannis will play more as facilitator just like LeBron or maybe the Bucks can bring someone who can be a sidekick of Giannis, then that would be a different story.

Upgrade the passing capability of Giannis.
First he was a tall man with long reach. He could see at a wider range and that means he knows who will be open.
It takes experience too which he doesn't have much by now. It could be their ace for getting that championship even with the strong West.

I remember Steve Nash when he won 2 time season MVP.
Despite being small he could see all the players and mentally, he is always active to whom will defend him.
And experience too.

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Quote from: morvillz7z on January 30, 2020, 07:10:04 PM

https://www.slamonline.com/nba/aaron-gordon-commits-to-slam-dunk-contest/

The 2020 All-Star weekend is coming soon, two weeks from now and we have Aaron Gordon confirming today that he will participate in the NBA Slam Dunk Contest (joining Dwight Howard and Derrick Jones Jr.). Since the event is in Chicago, do you think Zach LaVine will enter the contest too? The 2016 dunk contest battle between the two was pretty damn good. I'm sure Gordon would want a re-match. (fingers crossed)

Yes, yes, Rematch!!! Cheesy

Those two will be competitive but I don't think Dwight will.
Will it just be another comedy for him? (No harm, no bash, that is just how I see it.) Grin

I hope not.

Quote from: Sanitough on January 30, 2020, 06:28:20 PM

The NY Knicks has become a disappointment team after Melo traded to OKlahoma Thunder, they were better with Melo as they experience to be in the playoffs. https://www.nba.com/article/2017/09/25/new-york-knicks-trade-carmelo-anthony-oklahoma-city-thunder

They need to rebuild again with young players, change the management or hire a new coach, AGAIN.
If the teams like Celtics have success with rebuilding, they sure can do that also..

Look OKC now, we thought they'll be a shitty team but they weren't they were full of surprises with Paul.
I wish one day we can see this team to be more competitive again.

I have the same hopes. Their fans are getting restless for all the trades and then taking young kids for a reason of rebuilding.
They still need a veteran, someone to give some good lessons to the kids and then some advise.
Will it happen next year?

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