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Quote from: Rosilito on June 06, 2020, 10:53:58 PM

Might be, yes. But isn't it the rest they have since March 11 not enough? Looking on the other side, I think the last 8 games they'll be having to conclude playoff spot, it'll be somehow a warm up game for them... you know, to set back their condition after the long break they have. Not to mention that no fans were allowed to watch, it'll feel entirely different for them. But yeah, whatever, playoffs is more important, and their top priority Grin

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Good point I must admit, havne't thought about that aspect. After that big break, players might actually need those 8 games to get back in shape, so maybe they will take it seriosuly so we can see some competitive games from Lakers, Clippers, Bucks and rest that secured the spots already.
I only wish that they took this chance to experiment a bit when it comes to playoff, to introduce something new, as it was a perfect chance.

If by chance they all pursue being competitive in their last couple of games, I feel sorry for teams down in 8-11 spot. An additional struggle they have to carry on Cheesy

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But yeah, they all need to be serious either way.

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Quote from: Rikafip on June 06, 2020, 09:53:52 AM

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Indeed, they might use different strategies. Like letting one team win for their own advantage.
Strengths and weaknesses will be seen or how many wins they made during the season against the team they will let to get the 8th spot.

Example: Lakers standing against Grizzlies is 3-1 in favor of Lakers.
Lakers vs Pelicans is 4-0 in favor of Lakers.
So they could make a strategy to let Pelicans win the 8th spot.
But this is just my assumption. Grin

I don't think they need it. Just for other ranks maybe.

Possibly, they are going push traditional playoff format, right? 8 teams in each conferences.

Since this is just a mere rumors, they aren't going to push 1-16 seeding format 'cause if not then the idea of tanking stuff won't be effective or not a best choice to do so Cheesy

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Quote from: Rikafip on June 06, 2020, 09:53:52 AM

Yeah it won't be so interesting at the EAST as Nets and Magic almost qualified already. Good thing for Pelicans is that they have two games against Grizzlies, and if they beat those two, their chances ain't bad, and I will certainly root for them as I would like to see Zion in the playoff.

One thing got me thinking though; since all games will be played at the same place, including the playoffs, that means top teams won't have any home advantage. Therefore, teams that already secured playoff might not push that hard in those 8 games, and might calculate a bit, resting the important players for the playoff. That also might affect race for playoff spot as it is not the same thing if you are playing vs Clippers that are resting Kawhi and PG.

Indeed, they might use different strategies. Like letting one team win for their own advantage.
Strengths and weaknesses will be seen or how many wins they made during the season against the team they will let to get the 8th spot.

Example: Lakers standing against Grizzlies is 3-1 in favor of Lakers.
Lakers vs Pelicans is 4-0 in favor of Lakers.
So they could make a strategy to let Pelicans win the 8th spot.
But this is just my assumption. Grin

I don't think they need it. Just for other ranks maybe.

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Quote from: Russlenat on June 07, 2020, 03:58:04 AM

If we based the prediction below, we need some kind of miracle for the spurs to make it to the playoffs.

The San Antonio Spurs have a 2% chance of making the playoffs and a <1% chance of winning the NBA Finals

I'll wait if there's a betting odds for the spurs that says "will spurs qualify to the playoffs?".

If based on the percentage, then we can assume that the odds will be very attractive, probably 10x or more?
But anyway, I agree that they struggle this season, but spurs are spurs, regardless of who plays as long as coach pop is their coach, they are still a dangerous team.

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Quote from: Janation on June 07, 2020, 04:03:08 AM

It may be 2 months but it just went so fast. I've been checking some gambling sites and there are still no updates. Either way, are we going directly to playoffs? Or continue where we left off? Isn't it unfair if we jump immediately to playoffs in this continuation?

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Quote from: Rikafip on June 07, 2020, 03:40:00 AM

Quote from: danherbias07 on June 07, 2020, 01:58:45 AM

I still don't see bets posted in gambling websites despite the approval to return.
Maybe 1 week before?

Well, there is no official game schedule yet, and without that there can't any bets. I am sure that once official schedule is released with all needed info, gambling website will react immediately and offer games for betting.

Can't wait for this.

It may be 2 months but it just went so fast. I've been checking some gambling sites and there are still no updates. Either way, are we going directly to playoffs? Or continue where we left off? Isn't it unfair if we jump immediately to playoffs in this continuation?

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on June 06, 2020, 04:50:42 AM

Quote from: Russlenat on June 06, 2020, 04:33:59 AM

Quote from: Ziskinberg on June 06, 2020, 04:08:33 AM

For the West, I think Spurs will make it, I trust coach Pop in crucial situation like this, then they will upset the Lakers. Grin

We can't deny that in terms of coaching, Gregg Popovich is really one of the best in the NBA, but this season I saw how the Spurs struggle and I think they will miss the playoffs this season, I'm going for the Pelicans as I trust Zion to give his best just to get his first playoffs appearance as a rookie.

I know the spurs have struggled this season so far but I just blindly bet on them as coach pop give help me wins a lot of times in the past so I owe him a lot, and soon this awesome coach will retire and he will be a respected coach for a the basketball fanatic like me.

There's no indication yet that he will retire but as long as he is still managing a team, I will always follow my heart, lol..
Last season, I bet on the Spurs to win against the Nuggets, it was a fun series for me although Spurs lose in 7 games IIRC.

Blindly betting, I think that's a good recipe for big loses, hehe..
Anyway, it's your money so it's up to you on how to manage it, but I think Spurs will not make it this time.

If we based the prediction below, we need some kind of miracle for the spurs to make it to the playoffs.

The San Antonio Spurs have a 2% chance of making the playoffs and a <1% chance of winning the NBA Finals

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Quote from: Rosilito on June 06, 2020, 10:53:58 PM

Might be, yes. But isn't it the rest they have since March 11 not enough? Looking on the other side, I think the last 8 games they'll be having to conclude playoff spot, it'll be somehow a warm up game for them... you know, to set back their condition after the long break they have. Not to mention that no fans were allowed to watch, it'll feel entirely different for them. But yeah, whatever, playoffs is more important, and their top priority Grin

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Good point I must admit, havne't thought about that aspect. After that big break, players might actually need those 8 games to get back in shape, so maybe they will take it seriosuly so we can see some competitive games from Lakers, Clippers, Bucks and rest that secured the spots already.
I only wish that they took this chance to experiment a bit when it comes to playoff, to introduce something new, as it was a perfect chance.

Quote from: danherbias07 on June 07, 2020, 01:58:45 AM

I still don't see bets posted in gambling websites despite the approval to return.
Maybe 1 week before?

Well, there is no official game schedule yet, and without that there can't any bets. I am sure that once official schedule is released with all needed info, gambling website will react immediately and offer games for betting.

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As the NBA continues to prepare for its return to the court next month in Orlando, it has determined that the order in the standings will be determined by winning percentage, league sources told ESPN. That decision could play a pivotal role in how the race to take part in potential play-in games for the final playoff spot in the Western Conference plays out - specifically between the Portland Trail Blazers, New Orleans Pelicans and Sacramento Kings.

It also has been decided ties will be broken via the league's typical tie-breaking procedures, sources said. Teams were informed of both decisions via a memo Friday night updating teams on the league's work toward returning to play at Walt Disney World.

Source: https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/29275326/sources-nba-use-winning-percentage-determine-standings

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I still don't see bets posted in gambling websites despite the approval to return.
Maybe 1 week before?

Quote from: Rikafip on June 06, 2020, 09:53:52 AM

One thing got me thinking though; since all games will be played at the same place, including the playoffs, that means top teams won't have any home advantage. Therefore, teams that already secured playoff might not push that hard in those 8 games, and might calculate a bit, resting the important players for the playoff. That also might affect race for playoff spot as it is not the same thing if you are playing vs Clippers that are resting Kawhi and PG.

And since they are all in the same place, wouldn't it be fun if the players will be the fans?
I think that will be unique.
Is there a suggestion box to drop my entry? Grin

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Quote from: mirakal on June 06, 2020, 06:46:25 AM

If It's 20 teams, 10-10 for the east and west only, and since they are in top 9 in the latest ranking, they will only play the Pelicans and the Grizzlies, so that would mean they will only play few games that the current set up, or maybe they don't like to face the kings.

Quote from: Reid on June 06, 2020, 07:03:37 AM

Less competition means less work to do. Grin

Edit: Oh! we got the same idea as mirakal above me. Grin

Easy way out, huh. Makes sense. Specially Dame wouldn't play right? They must be struggling right now.

Quote from: Rikafip on June 06, 2020, 09:53:52 AM

Quote from: Reid on June 06, 2020, 07:03:37 AM

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Look at the Pelicans schedule. It looks easy. They might really have a chance here for the 8th spot.
Zion will need to put his best game from the start if they really want that seat taken from Grizzlies.

Yeah it won't be so interesting at the EAST as Nets and Magic almost qualified already. Good thing for Pelicans is that they have two games against Grizzlies, and if they beat those two, their chances ain't bad, and I will certainly root for them as I would like to see Zion in the playoff.

Looks like the league wants Zion to bound in Grin

. Kiddin' aside it seems Pelicans had already won twice against the Grizzlies with and without Zion playing.

Here's the photo:

Source: https://www.landofbasketball.com/head_to_head_gl/pelicans_vs_grizzlies_game_log_season.htm

Man, this is interesting would this win streak be continue? Shocked

. Turns out Ja Morrant needs to put up a lot of work, and extra effort against his former buddy or else they'll be watching playoffs from afar.

Quote from: Rikafip on June 06, 2020, 09:53:52 AM

One thing got me thinking though; since all games will be played at the same place, including the playoffs, that means top teams won't have any home advantage. Therefore, teams that already secured playoff might not push that hard in those 8 games, and might calculate a bit, resting the important players for the playoff. That also might affect race for playoff spot as it is not the same thing if you are playing vs Clippers that are resting Kawhi and PG.

Might be, yes. But isn't it the rest they have since March 11 not enough? Looking on the other side, I think the last 8 games they'll be having to conclude playoff spot, it'll be somehow a warm up game for them... you know, to set back their condition after the long break they have. Not to mention that no fans were allowed to watch, it'll feel entirely different for them. But yeah, whatever, playoffs is more important, and their top priority Grin

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on June 06, 2020, 04:08:33 AM

For the West, I think Spurs will make it, I trust coach Pop in crucial situation like this, then they will upset the Lakers. Grin

Even refs will participate just to make the Spurs win every game, it's difficult to imagine that they will able to secure the 8th spot. While they will try to win every game, obviously teams above them are also doing the same. Like I said here before, this might be the season that Spurs 22 consecutive playoffs appearances will now be broken.

As for Pelicans, Zion should try to stay healthy. Remember that they are almost out of the playoffs discussion not until Zion return. I even put up a bet here if they will make it to the playoffs but no one accepts my deal until to the deadline I set Cheesy

I might not repeat that again as Pelicans chances to 8th spot possible.

Quote from: Bttzed03 on June 06, 2020, 12:28:02 AM

For the Nets fans waiting for Durant to play, he's already ruled out playing for the 2019-2020 season. I guess he learned how not to rush in while recovering from an injury when he was in GS. Good choice. Kevin Durant confirms he won't return for NBA restart

And besides, that is expected already so should be no surprise to his fans. Even without the pandemic virus, he is already expected to return the next NBA season. He needs a long rest and shows something good next year as Nets already gambled a 1 year for that.

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It makes sense to look at the west but let's be honest there is about 8 or 9 teams that has a chance to win the title (which is a lot compared to previous years where only warriors was seen as the contender and parity was gone) but even with that, I think 3 or 4 teams have a chance at most.

On west I think Lakers and clippers will be the biggest talents, Kawhi and PG13 got injured a lot during the regular season so people thought they were not as good as predicted but they actually are, just got unlucky with injuries. Lakers also played amazingly like expected as well.

It means 2 teams from west are 100% contenders, on top of that rockets could be decent but they failed to perform in the regular season, nuggets do not look that experienced just yet, Jazz is a big question mark. All of these are "semi-contender", as in if an injury happens to their opponent they could beat them, but all intents and purposes they shouldn't. Bucks from east with maybe Raptors and Celtics are contenders too, but mainly Bucks obviously. I say it is between Bucks and Lakers and Clippers, that's it.

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Quote from: mirakal on June 06, 2020, 06:46:25 AM

Quote from: Rosilito on June 06, 2020, 06:21:26 AM

Not sure what's wrong with 22 teams though, that they have to against with it, the league didn't choose random numbers either Undecided

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If It's 20 teams, 10-10 for the east and west only, and since they are in top 9 in the latest ranking, they will only play the Pelicans and the Grizzlies, so that would mean they will only play few games that the current set up, or maybe they don't like to face the kings.

Logically right, if the set up is like that there's only few games and preparing for the playoff if they've got the last spot will be the next task for them to
look forward. Though whatever reason behind this vote they need to comply what the organization stated and proceed to 22 teams setup.
They still have a good chance to take the spot and move forward.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on June 06, 2020, 04:08:33 AM

For the West, I think Spurs will make it, I trust coach Pop in crucial situation like this, then they will upset the Lakers. Grin

I love your optimism Cheesy

. This Spurs getting into playoff and then beating this Lakers would probably be the biggest surprise in the modern NBA history. Pop is a great coach, one of the best ever, but he s not the magician.

Quote from: Reid on June 06, 2020, 07:03:37 AM

I am all looking at the West only.
Yeah, that is because of the complicated standing which is just near each other.

Look at the Pelicans schedule. It looks easy. They might really have a chance here for the 8th spot.
Zion will need to put his best game from the start if they really want that seat taken from Grizzlies.

Yeah it won't be so interesting at the EAST as Nets and Magic almost qualified already. Good thing for Pelicans is that they have two games against Grizzlies, and if they beat those two, their chances ain't bad, and I will certainly root for them as I would like to see Zion in the playoff.

One thing got me thinking though; since all games will be played at the same place, including the playoffs, that means top teams won't have any home advantage. Therefore, teams that already secured playoff might not push that hard in those 8 games, and might calculate a bit, resting the important players for the playoff. That also might affect race for playoff spot as it is not the same thing if you are playing vs Clippers that are resting Kawhi and PG.

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Kevin Durant won't play.
Kyrie Irving might join the team but maybe just on the sideline.

This will be a difficult tournament for the Brooklyn Nets.

Quote from: Ziskinberg on June 06, 2020, 04:08:33 AM

Quote from: Rikafip on June 06, 2020, 02:12:49 AM

What do you guys think, who will secure those playoff spots?

For the East, I'll go for the Magic to take the last spot.

For the West, I think Spurs will make it, I trust coach Pop in crucial situation like this, then they will upset the Lakers. Grin

It's just Washington which they will need to worry here and looking at the team they will be playing against it will be difficult to get near Nets and Magic.

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Quote from: Rikafip on June 06, 2020, 02:12:49 AM

Situation is more complicated on the West, where 5 teams will fight for the playoff spots: Memphis Grizzlies, Portland Trail Blazers, New Orleans Pelicans, Sacramento Kings, San Antonio Spurs and Phoenix Suns.
Hard to give any prognosis in West, but I doubt that Suns and Spurs will have a good chance, when you combine their current score and tough schedules. If I have to bet on osomeone, it would be Grizzlies, followed by Blazers. But who knows, maybe Zion goes crazy and carries Pelicans to that 8th spot.

Grizzlies vs Blazers, Jazz, Spurs, Thunder, Bucks, Pelicans, Pelicans, Celtics
Blazers vs Grizzlies, Rockets, Mavericks, 76ers, Celtics, Nets, Lakers, Heat or Magic
Pelicans vs Kings, Jazz, Clippers, Spurs, Grizzlies, Kings, Grizzlies, Magic
Kings vs Pelicans, Nets, Mavericks, Rockets, Magic, Pelicans, Pacers, Spurs
Spurs vs Nuggets, Grizzlies, Pelicans, Jazz, Jazz, Nuggets, Kings, 76ers
Suns vs Mavericks, Pacers, Clippers, Mavericks, 76ers, Wizards, Heat, Thunder

What do you guys think, who will secure those playoff spots?

I am all looking at the West only.
Yeah, that is because of the complicated standing which is just near each other.

Look at the Pelicans schedule. It looks easy. They might really have a chance here for the 8th spot.
Zion will need to put his best game from the start if they really want that seat taken from Grizzlies.

Quote from: Rosilito on June 06, 2020, 06:21:26 AM

Not sure what's wrong with 22 teams though, that they have to against with it, the league didn't choose random numbers either Undecided

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Less competition means less work to do. Grin

Edit: Oh! we got the same idea as mirakal above me. Grin

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Quote from: Rosilito on June 06, 2020, 06:21:26 AM

Not sure what's wrong with 22 teams though, that they have to against with it, the league didn't choose random numbers either Undecided

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If It's 20 teams, 10-10 for the east and west only, and since they are in top 9 in the latest ranking, they will only play the Pelicans and the Grizzlies, so that would mean they will only play few games that the current set up, or maybe they don't like to face the kings.

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Quote from: Bttzed03 on June 06, 2020, 12:28:02 AM

Quote from: chaser15 on June 05, 2020, 05:48:33 PM

~ I remember Damian Lillard, he should play then as Blazers might make it to the playoffs. Throw away his own desire as I don't see any wrong with the format. Every remaining game really matters so as much as possible, teams should be healthy and complete.

The irony though is that Blazers voted no to the proposal Grin

I don't know why but maybe they thought it's useless because Dame won't play seriously Huh

Maybe because of Dame or maybe because of this article I found which says that they "prefer 20 teams rather than 22".
Here's the tweet:

Source: here

Not sure what's wrong with 22 teams though, that they have to against with it, the league didn't choose random numbers either Undecided

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Quote from: Rikafip on June 06, 2020, 02:12:49 AM

What do you guys think, who will secure those playoff spots?

If I were to choose which team in the East should take the spot, I'd like to pick Wizard though it would be tough for them. Bradley's been explosive, he don't even get the chance to play in All Star game even though he's more worthy to have the spot than anybody in the reserves there. So I want him to clinch in playoffs at least.

Well, in West... it is such a dilemma to pick between Zion and Ja team. I like Ja but I like Zion too Embarrassed

, maybe a play-in tournament would solve this Grin

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Quote from: Russlenat on June 06, 2020, 04:33:59 AM

Quote from: Ziskinberg on June 06, 2020, 04:08:33 AM

For the West, I think Spurs will make it, I trust coach Pop in crucial situation like this, then they will upset the Lakers. Grin

We can't deny that in terms of coaching, Gregg Popovich is really one of the best in the NBA, but this season I saw how the Spurs struggle and I think they will miss the playoffs this season, I'm going for the Pelicans as I trust Zion to give his best just to get his first playoffs appearance as a rookie.

I know the spurs have struggled this season so far but I just blindly bet on them as coach pop give help me wins a lot of times in the past so I owe him a lot, and soon this awesome coach will retire and he will be a respected coach for a the basketball fanatic like me.

There's no indication yet that he will retire but as long as he is still managing a team, I will always follow my heart, lol..
Last season, I bet on the Spurs to win against the Nuggets, it was a fun series for me although Spurs lose in 7 games IIRC.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on June 06, 2020, 04:08:33 AM

Quote from: Rikafip on June 06, 2020, 02:12:49 AM

What do you guys think, who will secure those playoff spots?

For the East, I'll go for the Magic to take the last spot.

They ranked number 8 now, so they are the better team against their opponent, I think Magic has improve a lot this season and they will work hard to be in the playoffs, so my vote will also go for them.

Quote from: Ziskinberg on June 06, 2020, 04:08:33 AM

For the West, I think Spurs will make it, I trust coach Pop in crucial situation like this, then they will upset the Lakers. Grin

We can't deny that in terms of coaching, Gregg Popovich is really one of the best in the NBA, but this season I saw how the Spurs struggle and I think they will miss the playoffs this season, I'm going for the Pelicans as I trust Zion to give his best just to get his first playoffs appearance as a rookie.

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