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Quote from: Jating on February 20, 2024, 09:11:45 AM

Speaking of coaches, have your heard about the Nets coach Jacque Vaughn, being fired?

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Jacque Vaughn was fired as head coach of the NBA’s Brooklyn Nets and it appears his plan on moulding the team’s offensive identity around Ben Simmons may have played a role in that decision.

That is according to NBA insider Shams Charania, who claimed “multiple players” — including Spencer Dinwiddie and Mikal Bridges — had been “pretty vocal behind the scenes for months now about how the offence was running”.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/basketball/nba/nba-2024-brooklyn-nets-fire-jacque-vaughn-as-head-coach-mikal-bridges-voices-concern-around-offence-built-around-ben-simmons/news-story/8d4abed8e28f888be0661c5b81c30954

So as a NBA coach, there is no security of tenure, even if the Nets give him a 4 year contract as far as I know, they still fire him as they don't like what the team is going this season. Really just sad how a couple of years ago, they have Nash as coach and with their own big 3. And then just for them getting KD, Kyrie and Harden, they gave up so many future picks and now we've seen that the risk didn't pay-off i the end.

That's the difference between a coach and a player because when a player suddenly doesn't play well after getting a huge contract, he will only be in the trading block. A good example of that is Jordan Poole, who wasn't contributing to his current team and still enjoying a good salary.

For coaches, they don't receive as much compared to the players, but they have no security as to how long they'll stay. I hope the NBA will change this because you never know what's the politics inside. At least give them some security since they aren't paid as much as some high-earning NBA players.

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Speaking of coaches, have your heard about the Nets coach Jacque Vaughn, being fired?

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Jacque Vaughn was fired as head coach of the NBA’s Brooklyn Nets and it appears his plan on moulding the team’s offensive identity around Ben Simmons may have played a role in that decision.

That is according to NBA insider Shams Charania, who claimed “multiple players” — including Spencer Dinwiddie and Mikal Bridges — had been “pretty vocal behind the scenes for months now about how the offence was running”.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/basketball/nba/nba-2024-brooklyn-nets-fire-jacque-vaughn-as-head-coach-mikal-bridges-voices-concern-around-offence-built-around-ben-simmons/news-story/8d4abed8e28f888be0661c5b81c30954

So as a NBA coach, there is no security of tenure, even if the Nets give him a 4 year contract as far as I know, they still fire him as they don't like what the team is going this season. Really just sad how a couple of years ago, they have Nash as coach and with their own big 3. And then just for them getting KD, Kyrie and Harden, they gave up so many future picks and now we've seen that the risk didn't pay-off i the end.

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Quote from: OgNasty on February 19, 2024, 11:32:59 AM

No more basketball until Thursday.

All Star weekend was a bit of a letdown. I don’t know why they don’t just put up a million dollars for the slam dunk winner and save the contest.

It seemed to me that this time, the dunks of the participants were of the same type and unremarkable. Unfortunately, even a 1 million dollar prize is unlikely to improve the situation, as there are no players in the NBA now whose dunking skills are even close to what players like Vince Carter or Gerald Green had.

There are some good dunkers still in the game, how about Zion though? what do you think his chances of winning it? He is very athletic and could really rank amongst the best dunkers. Or even Ja Morant if he will comeback next season, even ANT could also be a champion as we have seen him posterizing some players too. The thing is that the NBA can't forced this star players to join the contest. Unlike before, even Kobe participated and won it if I'm not mistaken. But it seems players doesn't want to take the risk in joining the club. Lebron could have join in his prime, but unfortunately, he didn't.

Maybe there are few stars commit on dunk contest that's why we can see less names participate and people not feel satisfied with what they see. I think that's the reason why Jaylen Brown join on the dunk contest since he want to influence those other well known NBA player to participate and make the contest exciting.

I also want to see Ja participating and also Aaron Gordon since I think they are more entertaining to watch compare to those current participants.

If these two guys will participate I don't know if McClung will still be the Slam dunk champ. For Zion I think he's so heavy to do exhibition dunks.

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Quote from: FanEagle on February 19, 2024, 01:12:42 PM

I have seen a good suggestion to make it better. I have seen that maybe it should turn into USA vs World players next season to make it fun, and I think that is a wonderful idea. Maybe during the game players may not act like they care, but after a few wins from one side, the other side will care about it a lot for sure lol. Think about a team with Luka, Giannis, Jokic playing together, those guys would represent their own flags on their jerseys as well, and they will do their best without a doubt.

And in return, USA players would have to care, because if they lose then they are already in the USA, and they wouldn't want fans to hate them. This is actually a good idea that will make teams fight again, they will play defense, they will try to win for sure.

With the increasing number of players outside the US, this might happen, but not now.
US Vs. the World isn't the solution for this boring all-star game. They should play like it's Game 7 of the NBA Finals. I miss the time when players are defending. I guess it's around the year 2000's when Kobe, MJ, AI, and others are still fighting for that win, and for sure, fans are way happier seeing their idol playing than compared to just shooting here, and there with no defense whatsoever.

Here are the records that got broken during that boring all-star c/o Stephen A. Smith.

Just based on that image alone, you can already see why the game ended up with 397 points in total. 3 fouls only for the whole game? I mean WTF!!! I guess it's good that I didn't watch it either or I might end up sleeping. Instead of me watching on the TV, the TV is watching me sleeping Cheesy

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Overall, the all-star game is a complete embarrassment, but I don't see any changed in it for the next couple of years. This is the reason why people prefer watching Football or Soccer than Basketball.

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Quote from: OgNasty on February 19, 2024, 11:32:59 AM

No more basketball until Thursday.

All Star weekend was a bit of a letdown. I don’t know why they don’t just put up a million dollars for the slam dunk winner and save the contest.

It seemed to me that this time, the dunks of the participants were of the same type and unremarkable. Unfortunately, even a 1 million dollar prize is unlikely to improve the situation, as there are no players in the NBA now whose dunking skills are even close to what players like Vince Carter or Gerald Green had.

There are some good dunkers still in the game, how about Zion though? what do you think his chances of winning it? He is very athletic and could really rank amongst the best dunkers. Or even Ja Morant if he will comeback next season, even ANT could also be a champion as we have seen him posterizing some players too. The thing is that the NBA can't forced this star players to join the contest. Unlike before, even Kobe participated and won it if I'm not mistaken. But it seems players doesn't want to take the risk in joining the club. Lebron could have join in his prime, but unfortunately, he didn't.

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Quote from: OgNasty on February 19, 2024, 11:32:59 AM

No more basketball until Thursday.

All Star weekend was a bit of a letdown. I don’t know why they don’t just put up a million dollars for the slam dunk winner and save the contest.

It seemed to me that this time, the dunks of the participants were of the same type and unremarkable. Unfortunately, even a 1 million dollar prize is unlikely to improve the situation, as there are no players in the NBA now whose dunking skills are even close to what players like Vince Carter or Gerald Green had.

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Quote from: xLays on February 19, 2024, 11:49:00 AM

Yeah for me it should be Tyrese Haliburton is the MVP of this all star game. Man I know Dame got the most Point, but Man these guys who managed the choice MVP didn't look at the stat specially at FGM and FGA. Dame got something 50% field goal while Tyrese Haliburton almost 90% Field goal. Damian Lillard deserve that booed from the crowd of Indiana Pacers. Dame should volunteer to gave it to tyrese Haliburton who deserves the All-star MVP award. Anyway congrats on your winning bets.
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Well "almost 90%" is a little bit far fetched Wink

, but yeah he definitely had a better shooting % than Dame.
Too bad they often go with the most points in that one, Haliburton would also have deserved it of course but in the end the most points (for the winning team) count, nobody is really looking at the shooting % unfortunately.

Towns also was MUCH better with 50 points, he would also have won it, if the west didn't lose of course.

Well, thank god the letdown weekend is over and in some days it's business as usual again. Until then we only have NCAA and some qualifiers in Europe, not much going on.

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Quote from: Baofeng on February 19, 2024, 05:58:27 PM

Rare double double though for Dame, winning the 3 point competition and then the MVP, we've seen for the first time 200 points were surpassed.

And I read that there is a teas for next year 3 point, it could be the splash brothers, Steph Curry + Klay Thompson, vs Sabrina Ionescu + Caitlin Clark. This 3 point shoot up is the saving grace for this year's All Star, everyone wanted to watch how Steph will do against Sabrina, and Steph shows who is the greatest shooter in the planet right now, although Dame as well could be in the discussion.

The all star game was a dud. Dame earned his points with so.e half court shots but for the most part it was layups and dunks with no one around. It's turned into a glorified layup line. KAT had 50 points and ypu would barely know that because he was driving the lane every time down 30. Didn't pass etc. Game turned into a joke. They need to do so.ething lime put home court advantage in the finals to the winning side like baseball does.

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Rare double double though for Dame, winning the 3 point competition and then the MVP, we've seen for the first time 200 points were surpassed.

And I read that there is a teas for next year 3 point, it could be the splash brothers, Steph Curry + Klay Thompson, vs Sabrina Ionescu + Caitlin Clark. This 3 point shoot up is the saving grace for this year's All Star, everyone wanted to watch how Steph will do against Sabrina, and Steph shows who is the greatest shooter in the planet right now, although Dame as well could be in the discussion.

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Quote from: FanEagle on February 19, 2024, 01:12:42 PM

I have seen a good suggestion to make it better. I have seen that maybe it should turn into USA vs World players next season to make it fun, and I think that is a wonderful idea. Maybe during the game players may not act like they care, but after a few wins from one side, the other side will care about it a lot for sure lol. Think about a team with Luka, Giannis, Jokic playing together, those guys would represent their own flags on their jerseys as well, and they will do their best without a doubt.

And in return, USA players would have to care, because if they lose then they are already in the USA, and they wouldn't want fans to hate them. This is actually a good idea that will make teams fight again, they will play defense, they will try to win for sure.

I remember the other guy athlete from other sports that have questioned winning the NBA for telling world title.
He's got a point but this time, if this is going to be the format then it's actually going to be fun.
That's actually a good idea if it's going to be Team USA against the world that's composed of these great players from different countries against the stack team of the players from the USA.

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I have seen a good suggestion to make it better. I have seen that maybe it should turn into USA vs World players next season to make it fun, and I think that is a wonderful idea. Maybe during the game players may not act like they care, but after a few wins from one side, the other side will care about it a lot for sure lol. Think about a team with Luka, Giannis, Jokic playing together, those guys would represent their own flags on their jerseys as well, and they will do their best without a doubt.

And in return, USA players would have to care, because if they lose then they are already in the USA, and they wouldn't want fans to hate them. This is actually a good idea that will make teams fight again, they will play defense, they will try to win for sure.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on February 19, 2024, 03:17:17 AM

I think the only perks in this All-Star are the funny moments of the players.

Luka Doncic missed a dunk. It was so bad, like the Draymond Green short dunk.
Nikola Jokic trying to make a highlight dunk, yes that was funny too.
Tyrese Haliburton trying to revive the Jason Williams pass using the elbow.
The mic'ed up discussions, Lebron, Steph, and more.

And then the amazing start of Tyrese too, 5/5 threes until he did a heat check and missed.

I don't know what Lillard is thinking but he could easily give that All-Star MVP to Tyrese but I guess he badly wants the Kobe Bryant All-Star MVP award. Well, he got it. Perhaps next year he won't play like that anymore.
Let's just say it's an entertainment on offense. They won't play defense, this ain't the 90s anymore and they are more aware of their health than being competitive.

Congratulations to the East team and thank you. Cheesy

Yeah for me it should be Tyrese Haliburton is the MVP of this all star game. Man I know Dame got the most Point, but Man these guys who managed the choice MVP didn't look at the stat specially at FGM and FGA. Dame got something 50% field goal while Tyrese Haliburton almost 90% Field goal. Damian Lillard deserve that booed from the crowd of Indiana Pacers. Dame should volunteer to gave it to tyrese Haliburton who deserves the All-star MVP award. Anyway congrats on your winning bets.

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No more basketball until Thursday.

All Star weekend was a bit of a letdown. I don’t know why they don’t just put up a million dollars for the slam dunk winner and save the contest.

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Quote from: Getmon on February 19, 2024, 10:11:05 AM

I would be more entertained if the officials of the league exhibited the abilities of the players other than only basketball with no defense. Perhaps some of them are great at singing, acting, instruments, and dancing.

Fresh idea you have, but I don't think people came to see them. It's an NBA All-Star, meaning all-star players of the NBA gather and compete as a team. The word "compete" was missing in the actual All-Star game, to be honest.

Quote from: Getmon on February 19, 2024, 10:11:05 AM

Furthermore, as what the numbers say, I was likewise intrigued by Sabrina Ionescu testing Stephen Curry in the 3-point challenge.

That's the essence of "competition." Curry loves a challenge. If Curry had been the one to start the shooting first, the outcome might have been different. The thing is, Sabrina started, and Curry had already seen how many points he had to beat. Knowing his competitiveness and winner mentality, he loves to take clutch shots and win, and that's exactly what he did during that competition.

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Quote from: xzone on February 19, 2024, 03:55:37 AM

Basketball is not about shooting from long distance. It was the worst all star match in years. Nobody defended, there was no excitement, they just dribbled and scored. If I thought it would be this boring I wouldn't watch it at all. Even last year's match was better, there was at least some competition. This time it was really bad

I don't think we can bring back the days when players are competitive during this event. Team Management will always try to protect their players and I bet they already warned them to be careful in playing in an event that is no bearing. I mean, that will not give them any championships which means it will also not be for their own gains.

It's sad but it's the truth. Even since star players' contracts became 8 digits per year, the competition is gone in this All-Star event. We won't see any defense anymore because it might end up as a big mistake for them to get injured. Heck, even Lebron took a long rest in the fourth quarter because he ain't feeling good anymore.

I think the NBA management should just start focusing on the three-point shootout. I mean, that's the most fun of all from my own perspective. I like that close battle that ended up with a tiebreaker. Then, Steph and Sab also compete at a high level.
It's a different era now, we should really lower our expectations because we might not see that old All-Star anymore.

The All Star event is becoming a gathering of basketball stars in a single scene. But numerous fans are excited, they are attending and watching this once a year occasion. This implies that this generation of basketball fans has a different taste and they are alright with it.

I would be more entertained if the officials of the league exhibited the abilities of the players other than only basketball with no defense. Perhaps some of them are great at singing, acting, instruments, and dancing. Furthermore, as what the numbers say, I was likewise intrigued by Sabrina Ionescu testing Stephen Curry in the 3-point challenge.

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Quote from: xzone on February 19, 2024, 03:55:37 AM

Basketball is not about shooting from long distance. It was the worst all star match in years. Nobody defended, there was no excitement, they just dribbled and scored. If I thought it would be this boring I wouldn't watch it at all. Even last year's match was better, there was at least some competition. This time it was really bad

I don't think we can bring back the days when players are competitive during this event. Team Management will always try to protect their players and I bet they already warned them to be careful in playing in an event that is no bearing. I mean, that will not give them any championships which means it will also not be for their own gains.

It's sad but it's the truth. Even since star players' contracts became 8 digits per year, the competition is gone in this All-Star event. We won't see any defense anymore because it might end up as a big mistake for them to get injured. Heck, even Lebron took a long rest in the fourth quarter because he ain't feeling good anymore.

I think the NBA management should just start focusing on the three-point shootout. I mean, that's the most fun of all from my own perspective. I like that close battle that ended up with a tiebreaker. Then, Steph and Sab also compete at a high level.
It's a different era now, we should really lower our expectations because we might not see that old All-Star anymore.

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Quote from: xzone on February 19, 2024, 03:55:37 AM

Basketball is not about shooting from long distance. It was the worst all star match in years. Nobody defended, there was no excitement, they just dribbled and scored. If I thought it would be this boring I wouldn't watch it at all. Even last year's match was better, there was at least some competition. This time it was really bad

I'm glad I didn't watch it last night because it will be more disappointing the the Slamdunk contest yesterday. Back then, All-Star games were more serious and they called timeouts for real and they played like they were teammates but after some Star Players got injured for real like what happened to Paul George, they are now afraid to play the All-Star game for real and they are just going there inside the court for showing their shooting range and no one wanted to play and show strong defense because everyone is scared nowadays since they are now easy to be replaced especially when they don't have enough stardom like LBJ and others on the top of the list.

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I am curious how many are watching the All-Stars weekend games these days. Is the rating growing and becoming better than in the old days?

We thought it was boring but based on report they have a high viewership this 2024 all start.

Quote from: inthelongrun on February 19, 2024, 08:05:26 AM

I still watch it but mostly not all of them and there are events that I haven't finished. I felt like the older versions were better, especially in the East vs. West All-Stars where they are playing for real even if not 100%. The older All-Stars weekends were at the level of I cannot miss events. Now, I have no problem missing them especially if there are better options to do or watch.

Definitely, I'm with you on that. The old All-Star format is better for me, and probably for most of us here. I don't know what improvements they'll have to make, but at least they should listen to our sentiments so they'll know that there's a need for improvement.

It has viewership because we are curious about the shoot out between Steph and Sabrina. And I think the numbers says it, but I'm not sure about the others, specially the Slam dunk wherein judges scoring are somewhat questionable and those that participate like Jaylen Brown doesn't show up anything in the contest.

The old format of East vs West was better, but it was a complete shot out.

It might be better next year in the 3 point contest, bring Steph and Dame and see who is the best shooter.

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Quote from: Distinctin on February 19, 2024, 08:15:15 AM

Quote from: inthelongrun on February 19, 2024, 08:05:26 AM

I am curious how many are watching the All-Stars weekend games these days. Is the rating growing and becoming better than in the old days?

We thought it was boring but based on report they have a high viewership this 2024 all start.

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State Farm All-Star Saturday Night draws most viewers in 4 years
The audience peaked with 5.4 million viewers from 10-10:15 p.m. ET during the Stephen vs. Sabrina 3-Point Challenge.

The overnight numbers are in: 10 million unique viewers in the U.S. watched State Farm All-Star Saturday Night on TNT, truTV and B/R Sports on Max, up 54% vs. last year.

It is the most-watched NBA All-Star Saturday Night in four years.

https://www.nba.com/news/all-star-saturday-night-ratings

Wow! That's surprising. I was thinking that the number of viewers had decreased since personally, I feel bored watching the All-Star game. Maybe I'm just getting older because when I was still studying, like when I was in high school, it was an anticipated game for me. But when I see some users feeling the same, then I realize it was really boring. It seems like the regular season is more fun to watch than this All-Star game. These players are just showcasing their skills in dunks and shooting beyond the arc but don't know how to play defense.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on February 19, 2024, 08:05:26 AM

I am curious how many are watching the All-Stars weekend games these days. Is the rating growing and becoming better than in the old days?

We thought it was boring but based on report they have a high viewership this 2024 all start.

Quote from: inthelongrun on February 19, 2024, 08:05:26 AM

I still watch it but mostly not all of them and there are events that I haven't finished. I felt like the older versions were better, especially in the East vs. West All-Stars where they are playing for real even if not 100%. The older All-Stars weekends were at the level of I cannot miss events. Now, I have no problem missing them especially if there are better options to do or watch.

Definitely, I'm with you on that. The old All-Star format is better for me, and probably for most of us here. I don't know what improvements they'll have to make, but at least they should listen to our sentiments so they'll know that there's a need for improvement.

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