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Let's see if he matured already to lead his current team and not start the blame game when they start losing more games.

Irving is proven that he can't win championship with a superstar playing along with him.

Irving might have left the Cavaliers due to his attitude also, they might have conflict of attitude against Lebron as we know stars usually want to have full attention on them, I think it's only Leonard, Curry, and Giannis who has a great attitude in the NBA imo.

Also, this is just one game, he dropped the bomb in the opener but it does not matter at all since they loss.

It's just their first game though, lossing their first game doesn't mean they lose in making it to the finals or in the playoffs. Of course there could be more adjustments as the season goes on. Expect Irving to be back with the vengeance in their next game.

I am just disappointed that despite of him making a good scoring night the team still loss at home.
This scares me when people say that "Irving will be back with vengeance ", I don't like that term, it seems like we are seeing the nets as Irving's team only, I like the nets to be like a team where everyone is effective in their respective role, it doesn't matter if Irving's production will drop as long as his teammates will increase.

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Quote from: Finestream on October 24, 2019, 09:11:40 AM

Quote from: Bttzed03 on October 24, 2019, 08:58:27 AM

Let's see if he matured already to lead his current team and not start the blame game when they start losing more games.

Irving is proven that he can't win championship with a superstar playing along with him.

Irving might have left the Cavaliers due to his attitude also, they might have conflict of attitude against Lebron as we know stars usually want to have full attention on them, I think it's only Leonard, Curry, and Giannis who has a great attitude in the NBA imo.

Also, this is just one game, he dropped the bomb in the opener but it does not matter at all since they loss.

It's just their first game though, lossing their first game doesn't mean they lose in making it to the finals or in the playoffs. Of course there could be more adjustments as the season goes on. Expect Irving to be back with the vengeance in their next game.

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Top 5 surprises from full slate of NBA openers: Ugly debuts for Kemba Walker, Mike Conley; Thunder look solid
The NBA's busy Wednesday night of season openers was filled with several surprises -- both good and bad

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Quote from: NJB18 on October 24, 2019, 12:00:42 PM

That 50 point from Kyrie the highest ever for a debutant in NBA history? Earlier, Danny Green was also able to break Abdul-Jabbar's Laker debut dishing in 28 points. All these historic accomplishments were undermined because both lost their respective games.

I think the NBA is more competitive now than the previous years.

Another record is Hornets rookie, P.J. Washington, sets a record for most 3's, hitting 7 for in a career debut. As far as Irving goes, he is capable of that, we are talking about his leadership skills here. But don't forget that he has that opportunity when he was in Cav's, although someone can argue that during that time, Irving hasn't mature yet.

There's no denying that he has evolved as a player, although we hadn't had the chance to see him becoming a leader in Celtics because of his injuries, but he did try to carry that team, alone. So let's see if a healthy Irving and a come backing KD will be the next big duo and propel them to the Eastern Conference.

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Quote from: Finestream on October 24, 2019, 09:11:40 AM

Quote from: Bttzed03 on October 24, 2019, 08:58:27 AM

Let's see if he matured already to lead his current team and not start the blame game when they start losing more games.

Irving is proven that he can't win championship with a superstar playing along with him.

Irving might have left the Cavaliers due to his attitude also, they might have conflict of attitude against Lebron as we know stars usually want to have full attention on them, I think it's only Leonard, Curry, and Giannis who has a great attitude in the NBA imo.

Also, this is just one game, he dropped the bomb in the opener but it does not matter at all since they loss.

So only 3 people in the nba have a good attitude lol. What about LaMarcus Aldridge, damien lillard, jokic, Horford, karl anthony towns, and on and on. There are plenty of team guys and people who arent full of themselves. Kyrie is good period. Not everyone wins championships..

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That 50 point from Kyrie the highest ever for a debutant in NBA history? Earlier, Danny Green was also able to break Abdul-Jabbar's Laker debut dishing in 28 points. All these historic accomplishments were undermined because both lost their respective games.

I think the NBA is more competitive now than the previous years.

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People seem to forget the Blazers here, they are still in my radar and I know this team will perform well this time as they need to compete since they've been eliminated badly every playoffs.

I dont. Lillard is in his prime now and he is still growing his skills but for now the hype is in both LA.
Once they see the Blazers game then they might shine again and be on the front page of every news including social media.

However the Blazers got a bad start tonight, they struggle at their own home and they can't even capitalize their advantage while Jokic was sitting early in the game due to foul trouble. it's just one game actually and I don't want to overreact, but they need to improve their defense especially in the 4th quarter when it matters a lot.

That is Denver. Which is number 2 last season. Those guys have a lot of chemistry by now and even without 1 of their main players they could still make a win. That is how chemistry works.

Besides, just like you said, it is just the start. They are still warming and we cannot predict the ends just because of 1 game.
Let us just see through what else they can do if they are against other team. Maybe those LA teams should be a good game for them.

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Quote from: Reid on October 24, 2019, 08:04:26 AM

This is what Irving wanted even from the start of his career, his own team.

When Durant will be back healthy next season, I'll say its not gonna be his team anymore. Durant most likely to take the spotlight away from Irving. If he (Irving) have the same kind of attitude and mentality they will probably not gonna work out again.
Kyrie cannot carry a team and thats a fact, he needs another superstar that are flexible enough to get along with his style of game. Yes, he's a very good individual athlete, but not as a good team leader.

We cannot say that just yet.
He had been under a team which had a leader. (Cavaliers: Lebron)
And then, in Celtics we didnt see him most of the game because of injuries.
If he will be healthy this season then maybe we could see his leadership.

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How could Irving putting up 50 doesn't matter?

Because regardless of his performance, they lost the game and that's what others can see while his performance was ignored. We have different standards on what should matter and what's not.

But it is undeniable that Kyrie really did well even without KD.

It's undeniable that he have that individual talent as we all see him and know him for that, though without any help coming from he's teammates while KD is not there yet it will be wasted in anyway. Kyrie loves to take the leadership and he will do the best that he can to show it from his team, stepping up is not a problem but it's not a game of 1-2 players but the whole squad needs to bring their best, sharing every position to create spaces.

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Quote from: sana54210 on October 24, 2019, 10:16:32 AM

How could Irving putting up 50 doesn't matter?

Because regardless of his performance, they lost the game and that's what others can see while his performance was ignored. We have different standards on what should matter and what's not.

But it is undeniable that Kyrie really did well even without KD.

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How could Irving putting up 50 doesn't matter? I mean dude balled out and gave all he has in that game which shows he is willing to work hard for Nets, he wasn't like that in Celtics for example which means Nets have a really bright future, even if Durant doesn't play this year eventually he will play next year and when Durant comes back they will have Irving plus Durant on Nets playing with 60-70+ points a game which would mean they would be really rivaling anyone in the east.

There are not that many teams who have that type of talent, sure there are more overall teams like Sixers but nobody has the talent of Irving+Durant levels in east so they will be awesome. What mattered was 50 point game means Irving is willing to play here and give his all which was what fans were worrying about and they got their answer.

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Quote from: Oasisman on October 24, 2019, 09:27:01 AM

Quote from: Reid on October 24, 2019, 08:04:26 AM

This is what Irving wanted even from the start of his career, his own team.

When Durant will be back healthy next season, I'll say its not gonna be his team anymore. Durant most likely to take the spotlight away from Irving. If he (Irving) have the same kind of attitude and mentality they will probably not gonna work out again.
Kyrie cannot carry a team and thats a fact, he needs another superstar that are flexible enough to get along with his style of game. Yes, he's a very good individual athlete, but not as a good team leader.

Let us not talk about who will be the stars of the team because we all know those who are making a good salary are the stars.
Durant has proven his worth when he played with the Warriors, in terms of skills and consistency, I think he is the best in the NBA, as I also believe if he was not injured last season, the warriors could easily bet the Raptors even if Leonard is playing awesome basketball that time.

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Quote from: Reid on October 24, 2019, 08:04:26 AM

This is what Irving wanted even from the start of his career, his own team.

When Durant will be back healthy next season, I'll say its not gonna be his team anymore. Durant most likely to take the spotlight away from Irving. If he (Irving) have the same kind of attitude and mentality they will probably not gonna work out again.
Kyrie cannot carry a team and thats a fact, he needs another superstar that are flexible enough to get along with his style of game. Yes, he's a very good individual athlete, but not as a good team leader.

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Quote from: Bttzed03 on October 24, 2019, 08:58:27 AM

Let's see if he matured already to lead his current team and not start the blame game when they start losing more games.

Irving is proven that he can't win championship with a superstar playing along with him.

Irving might have left the Cavaliers due to his attitude also, they might have conflict of attitude against Lebron as we know stars usually want to have full attention on them, I think it's only Leonard, Curry, and Giannis who has a great attitude in the NBA imo.

Also, this is just one game, he dropped the bomb in the opener but it does not matter at all since they loss.

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Quote from: Reid on October 24, 2019, 08:04:26 AM

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Another entertaining match today (Wolves 127 - Nets 126). A typical performance by Irving carrying his team with a 50 point performance against KAT and Wiggins team but that last shot that he took though Grin

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This is what Irving wanted even from the start of his career, his own team.
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Now, if Irving could somehow get the Nets to the playoffs or better the championship then I think he will be satisfied by now.
We could see his leadership now while KD is not around.

That makes sense actually. He was unable to prove much when he was in Cleveland before Lebron resigned. He didn't do well in Boston either and his former teammates was not so happy with his attitude according to some sources.

Let's see if he matured already to lead his current team and not start the blame game when they start losing more games.

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Quote from: AliMan on October 24, 2019, 08:48:50 AM

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Another entertaining match today (Wolves 127 - Nets 126). A typical performance by Irving carrying his team with a 50 point performance against KAT and Wiggins team but that last shot that he took though Grin

By the way, Danny Green surpassed Jabbar's record yesterday for most points made by a Laker in a NBA debut (Green - 28, Jabbar - 27).

No matter how many how many points a player puts up, if it ends up lossing, then it doesn't matter anymore. Like Irving putting up 50points in his debut with the nets means how deadly of a caliber player he is. If only Durant was healthy, they could've won the game though.

I think KD won't have a chance to play this season. he's still in the recovery stage, right? so maybe he will come back next season.
Irving has a good game for Nets. His debut by breaking records is a good start for him and teams

Irving has the capability to maintain that record and I think this was his best factor to become one of the strong pillar of the team. On side of Kevin Durant, he put much effort for the team from their previous games which always considered their core strength in meeting their every goals. His recovery stage, somehow crack down one of the best asset for them but its not yet done because this is now time to unleash their strongest line up of the game.

If Brooklyn defense improves as the season goes then they will be a strong top 4 in the East. Kyrie will be back as a scoring machine especially Durant is yet to return. They will become more dangerous once Kevin Durant returns late season or in the playoffs. Milwaukee, Philly and the other teams will be avoiding a Brooklyn match up like a plague once an announcement telling KD returns in the playoffs.

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Quote from: AliMan on October 24, 2019, 08:48:50 AM

Irving has the capability to maintain that record and I think this was his best factor to become one of the strong pillar of the team.

Maintaining that record is difficult, maybe its more realistic if we expect from him to average at least 25 ppg this season since Durant will not play this season.

Quote from: AliMan on October 24, 2019, 08:48:50 AM

On side of Kevin Durant, he put much effort for the team from their previous games which always considered their core strength in meeting their every goals. His recovery stage, somehow crack down one of the best asset for them but its not yet done because this is now time to unleash their strongest line up of the game.

When Durant will be back, Nets will improve as a team but we will not likely see him this season but we can still expect that Nets will be a playoff contender as East are weaker compared to the east in terms of competition.

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Another entertaining match today (Wolves 127 - Nets 126). A typical performance by Irving carrying his team with a 50 point performance against KAT and Wiggins team but that last shot that he took though Grin

By the way, Danny Green surpassed Jabbar's record yesterday for most points made by a Laker in a NBA debut (Green - 28, Jabbar - 27).

No matter how many how many points a player puts up, if it ends up lossing, then it doesn't matter anymore. Like Irving putting up 50points in his debut with the nets means how deadly of a caliber player he is. If only Durant was healthy, they could've won the game though.

I think KD won't have a chance to play this season. he's still in the recovery stage, right? so maybe he will come back next season.
Irving has a good game for Nets. His debut by breaking records is a good start for him and teams

Irving has the capability to maintain that record and I think this was his best factor to become one of the strong pillar of the team. On side of Kevin Durant, he put much effort for the team from their previous games which always considered their core strength in meeting their every goals. His recovery stage, somehow crack down one of the best asset for them but its not yet done because this is now time to unleash their strongest line up of the game.

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Quote from: Reid on October 24, 2019, 08:04:26 AM

Quote from: Finestream on October 23, 2019, 07:36:11 PM

People seem to forget the Blazers here, they are still in my radar and I know this team will perform well this time as they need to compete since they've been eliminated badly every playoffs.

I dont. Lillard is in his prime now and he is still growing his skills but for now the hype is in both LA.
Once they see the Blazers game then they might shine again and be on the front page of every news including social media.

However the Blazers got a bad start tonight, they struggle at their own home and they can't even capitalize their advantage while Jokic was sitting early in the game due to foul trouble. it's just one game actually and I don't want to overreact, but they need to improve their defense especially in the 4th quarter when it matters a lot.

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Quote from: Finestream on October 23, 2019, 07:36:11 PM

People seem to forget the Blazers here, they are still in my radar and I know this team will perform well this time as they need to compete since they've been eliminated badly every playoffs.

I dont. Lillard is in his prime now and he is still growing his skills but for now the hype is in both LA.
Once they see the Blazers game then they might shine again and be on the front page of every news including social media.

Quote from: Bttzed03 on October 23, 2019, 11:21:42 PM

Another entertaining match today (Wolves 127 - Nets 126). A typical performance by Irving carrying his team with a 50 point performance against KAT and Wiggins team but that last shot that he took though Grin

By the way, Danny Green surpassed Jabbar's record yesterday for most points made by a Laker in a NBA debut (Green - 28, Jabbar - 27).

This is what Irving wanted even from the start of his career, his own team. They have the same look as Kevin Durant which seems to be not happy to every championship that they had. They felt like it was not their team.
Now, if Irving could somehow get the Nets to the playoffs or better the championship then I think he will be satisfied by now.
We could see his leadership now while KD is not around.

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Quote from: bestcoins1 on October 24, 2019, 05:32:06 AM

I think KD won't have a chance to play this season. he's still in the recovery stage, right? so maybe he will come back next season.
Irving has a good game for Nets. His debut by breaking records is a good start for him and teams

here's the answer : Nets not expecting Kevin Durant to play this season

That's alright, Durant needs to fully recover and I am sure that with how Kyrie showed in the first game, Nets will be able to be in the playoffs again this season. Kyrie can't score that all night so he also need some help, it was a great night for him individually but bad because his team loss in the game.

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