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October 22, 2019, 11:10:19 AM
Anyway, thoughts on this one?

https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/1186499659969286144

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MJ on Steph Curry:

“Still a great player. Not a Hall of Famer yet, though. He’s not.”
The legend has spoken and he's entitled with his opinion because he's been in the league and achieved a lot of things. I don't disagree nor agree with what he said, it's an opinion from him and we should respect that.

We see Curry as a great player so do MJ does. There's something that MJ is expecting from Steph and I think he has to achieve or show it first before MJ put him on the list.
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October 22, 2019, 11:08:47 AM
Tonight there is a big game in Los Angeles between Los Angeles Lacers and Los Angeles Clippers, I'm exciting to watch this game! It's about glory about who dominate the town is't yellow or white, both teams have great players, Lacers have the big LeBron James and Anthony Davis and other stars..
You mean Lakers.. right?
Lebron and Davis are the biggest starts in the NBA now, their team is so hype as played together which both have already showed they have the skills to bring the team to a different level. Lebron have proven himself many times, let's consider him a great player already and Davis though per individual stats he has an impressive one but he is looking for a chance to not just play in the first round but to be in the NBA finals, and pairing with Lebron gives him a better chance.

Going back to tomorrow's game, Lebron and Davis will play, while Leonard and PG (out).
it is suppose to be fun if both stars of Clippers are healthy, but let's just say they have williams to show up tomorrow, but I am still with the Lakers here.

In the other side there is Leonard Khawi and other stars..
Should be willams as I've mentioned above.

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October 22, 2019, 10:39:01 AM
Tonight there is a big game in Los Angeles between Los Angeles Lakers and Los Angeles Clippers, I'm exciting to watch this game! It's about glory about who dominate the town is't yellow or white, both teams have great players, Lakers have the big LeBron James and Anthony Davis and other stars.. In the other side there is Leonard Khawi and other stars.. It will be a great game and I think Lakers will be the winner.
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October 22, 2019, 10:04:43 AM
Anyway, thoughts on this one?

https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/1186499659969286144

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MJ on Steph Curry:

“Still a great player. Not a Hall of Famer yet, though. He’s not.”

MJ has a higher standard than most of us, that's the only reason I can think of why he said that. If we can only find out who he thinks as a Hall of Famer now then we can make a better comparison.
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October 22, 2019, 09:42:34 AM
Just a Game 1 though. But still, surely they will show us a close match since key players of both teams are there.

Current Moneyline odds:
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Still nice if you vote for LAC. That's Kawhi Leonard and anything can happen in basketball. And besides, even without PG the lineup is so good.

I am not going to bet on them against the Lakers with PG.
maybe we can take that discussion in the NBA betting thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5091185.1440

Anyway, thoughts on this one?

https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/1186499659969286144

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MJ on Steph Curry:

“Still a great player. Not a Hall of Famer yet, though. He’s not.”
That's a challenge of Curry, he need to take his team now to the Championship to prove the doubters, he is already a GOAT IMO, and I think he can be a hall famer as he still has a lot of games to play and every season we see some improvement.
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October 22, 2019, 09:27:10 AM
Just a Game 1 though. But still, surely they will show us a close match since key players of both teams are there.

Current Moneyline odds:
[email protected] / [email protected] (Sportsbet)
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Still nice if you vote for LAC. That's Kawhi Leonard and anything can happen in basketball. And besides, even without PG the lineup is so good.

Anyway, thoughts on this one?

https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/1186499659969286144

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MJ on Steph Curry:

“Still a great player. Not a Hall of Famer yet, though. He’s not.”
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October 22, 2019, 08:47:59 AM

This is the first, I think the Pelicans should look it as a consideration of reducing Zion's weight or else this kid would be an injury prone player. He can't last the league with just brute Force alone, he needs to have a conditioned body to make his career longer.

Good thing that he is only out for 6-8 weeks, and I think he will learn from his mistake.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2858749-pelicans-zion-williamson-underwent-surgery-on-knee-injury-will-miss-6-8-weeks

The problem with the Pelicans is they have no other player that they can rely on, so this rookie is so pressure to deliver.
Usually Rookies showed their very best especially that he is the first pick, the expectation is really high and if the management is satisfied, he will get a good money in return, I am thinking,, if he will not be too aggressive, his future contract might be at risk also, if he will be aggressive his health might be at risk, he needs to choose.
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October 22, 2019, 05:34:47 AM

Many players change quickly in the NBA today either for $ or for the ring. It would be interesting to see what other teams may offer once Jokic becomes eligible in a couple of years and if he remains healthy and still plays high quality BB.



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Damn, situation with Zion Williamson is much worse than i thought, he will be out  for 6-8 weeks due meniscus surgery. I thought he will miss maybe week or two, but this is way more serious. Bad luck to start professional career this way.

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https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1186368729061441536
We have to wait even longer to see Zion debut in the regular season. Zion has suffered several injuries since the Pelicans chose him in June. First, he left his Summer League debut in July after playing nine minutes, with a bruised left knee. Everything became more serious before the final of the New Orleans Preseason on October 18 against the New York Knicks.

This is the first, I think the Pelicans should look it as a consideration of reducing Zion's weight or else this kid would be an injury prone player. He can't last the league with just brute Force alone, he needs to have a conditioned body to make his career longer.
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October 22, 2019, 02:25:54 AM

Many players change quickly in the NBA today either for $ or for the ring. It would be interesting to see what other teams may offer once Jokic becomes eligible in a couple of years and if he remains healthy and still plays high quality BB.



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Damn, situation with Zion Williamson is much worse than i thought, he will be out  for 6-8 weeks due meniscus surgery. I thought he will miss maybe week or two, but this is way more serious. Bad luck to start professional career this way.

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https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1186368729061441536
We have to wait even longer to see Zion debut in the regular season. Zion has suffered several injuries since the Pelicans chose him in June. First, he left his Summer League debut in July after playing nine minutes, with a bruised left knee. Everything became more serious before the final of the New Orleans Preseason on October 18 against the New York Knicks.
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October 22, 2019, 02:20:20 AM

Many players change quickly in the NBA today either for $ or for the ring. It would be interesting to see what other teams may offer once Jokic becomes eligible in a couple of years and if he remains healthy and still plays high quality BB.



Well only Denver Nuggets can offer him supermax contract, and they will do it for sure if he keeps playing this good. Imho it would be stupid from him to sacrifice a lot of $$ to chase the ring.


Damn, situation with Zion Williamson is much worse than i thought, he will be out  for 6-8 weeks due meniscus surgery. I thought he will miss maybe week or two, but this is way more serious. Bad luck to start professional career this way.

edit: Jayleen Brown signed 4y/$115M contract extension. I think that Celtics overpayed in this case, bad deal, but kudos to Jayleen Brown manager, maybe Hield should get him as well.
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1186368729061441536

Meniscus surgery? Damn, one of the worst injury for a basketball player. One advantage though is that Zion is very young so recovery is going to be very quick, he will be fine I guess.

And hope for a speedy recovery so that we can see his potential as the next star in the NBA. I down know if this can affect his running for the ROY though because of those missed games.
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October 22, 2019, 01:56:34 AM

Not a good start for Zion as well. Remember, the NBA had a lot of first-pick players who suffered injury early in the season or during the 1st year of the season, and came back at their worst form. This kid literally need to lose weight seriously. He's in the highest level of league, the level of competence is very intense as well, most probably you'll beat yourself up every night after the game. Zion weights more than Lebron and as explosive as Westbrook, how do you expect this kid to end up?
Though you are right with those previous super rookies ending up nothing from this league because of those hard injuries that cause them not to be in the same level, but we also need to consider that being the priorities from the team medical attentions will be focus from how this young kid will be able to develop balance between and take care of his health conditions. He needs to adjust in anyhow to stay healthy and not to suffer the same fate with those long forgotten hotshots.

No matter how minor the injury is, when you're the priority of the team, It should'nt be taken as if It was okay, " just rest him for a little while and continue to play on the next 3-5 games" mentality. Injury prone players kills their career. Durability plays a huge role as an athlete. Look how Lebron balanced his game and body and at the same time took care of his health all the way to his 15th season.
Anyway, Its too early to put judgement on this kid's career. I know he still has a long way to go and his a superb athlete in his size. Hope to see more of him with less to no injury this season.
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October 22, 2019, 01:47:43 AM

Many players change quickly in the NBA today either for $ or for the ring. It would be interesting to see what other teams may offer once Jokic becomes eligible in a couple of years and if he remains healthy and still plays high quality BB.



Well only Denver Nuggets can offer him supermax contract, and they will do it for sure if he keeps playing this good. Imho it would be stupid from him to sacrifice a lot of $$ to chase the ring.


Damn, situation with Zion Williamson is much worse than i thought, he will be out  for 6-8 weeks due meniscus surgery. I thought he will miss maybe week or two, but this is way more serious. Bad luck to start professional career this way.

edit: Jayleen Brown signed 4y/$115M contract extension. I think that Celtics overpayed in this case, bad deal, but kudos to Jayleen Brown manager, maybe Hield should get him as well.
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1186368729061441536
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October 21, 2019, 10:34:34 PM

It's hard to see Nuggets letting go of a superstar center like Jokic but if Denver fails to get that championship in a couple of years and he decides to leave to chase a ring, that will completely change things. A lot of power has shifted to the players

Unless something unexpected happens Jokic will be eligible for supermax contract in 3 years, that might make him to stay in Nuggets and not chase the ring (in case they don't win it by then).
Many players change quickly in the NBA today either for $ or for the ring. It would be interesting to see what other teams may offer once Jokic becomes eligible in a couple of years and if he remains healthy and still plays high quality BB.


So a possible 10 games will be missed by one of the superstars of the NBA. The offensive power of the Clippers could be focused on Kawhi for now while also doing defense instead of two sharing all the work.
Sad but we need to wait to see the maximized power of the Clippers.
This is actually good for the Clippers. We will see how they will work their rotation early until they can get used to playing without one of their main players. This will also give more time for Lou Williams
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October 21, 2019, 10:30:04 PM

Not a good start for Zion as well. Remember, the NBA had a lot of first-pick players who suffered injury early in the season or during the 1st year of the season, and came back at their worst form. This kid literally need to lose weight seriously. He's in the highest level of league, the level of competence is very intense as well, most probably you'll beat yourself up every night after the game. Zion weights more than Lebron and as explosive as Westbrook, how do you expect this kid to end up?
Though you are right with those previous super rookies ending up nothing from this league because of those hard injuries that cause them not to be in the same level, but we also need to consider that being the priorities from the team medical attentions will be focus from how this young kid will be able to develop balance between and take care of his health conditions. He needs to adjust in anyhow to stay healthy and not to suffer the same fate with those long forgotten hotshots.
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October 21, 2019, 10:23:26 PM

And that's it, NBA Season will officially commence in less than 48 hours now with TOR vs NOP and LAL vs LAC as a season opener match-up.

However, between the Los Angeles teams, we will not see the full power of both teams because of injuries.

LAC
Paul George


Tried to do some research about the Paul George injury. I was expecting to see him play and that is why I want to know the reason behind it.

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After winning the summer by signing Kawhi Leonard in free agency and trading for Paul George, the Los Angeles Clippers are the favorites to win the 2020 NBA title. They probably won't look like it to start the season, however, because they'll be without George for the early portion of their schedule as he recovers from offseason shoulder surgery.

On Saturday, Doc Rivers told reporters that George "is not going to be here for the first 10" games, which would put him out until the middle of November. That coincides with what George told ESPN in the offseason, when he said, "I'll be out of October fully, but who knows? We'll see. In the November range is our target date."

Link: https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/paul-george-injury-update-clippers-star-to-miss-at-least-first-10-games-per-doc-rivers/

So a possible 10 games will be missed by one of the superstars of the NBA. The offensive power of the Clippers could be focused on Kawhi for now while also doing defense instead of two sharing all the work.
Sad but we need to wait to see the maximized power of the Clippers.
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October 21, 2019, 04:50:22 PM

And that's it, NBA Season will officially commence in less than 48 hours now with TOR vs NOP and LAL vs LAC as a season opener match-up.

However, between the Los Angeles teams, we will not see the full power of both teams because of injuries.

LAC
Paul George
Rodney McGruder
Amir Coffey

LAL
Rajon Rondo
Kyle Kuzma
Alex Caruso
Talen Horton-Tucker

Just a Game 1 though. But still, surely they will show us a close match since key players of both teams are there.

Current Moneyline odds:
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October 21, 2019, 03:12:52 PM

It's hard to see Nuggets letting go of a superstar center like Jokic but if Denver fails to get that championship in a couple of years and he decides to leave to chase a ring, that will completely change things. A lot of power has shifted to the players

Unless something unexpected happens Jokic will be eligible for supermax contract in 3 years, that might make him to stay in Nuggets and not chase the ring (in case they don't win it by then).

Buddy Hield allegedly  signed 4y/$94M  deal with bonuses,  that can increase to $106M

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1186316753292447746?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
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October 21, 2019, 02:59:55 PM
Zion losing weight wouldn't equal to him being a bad player or not even being explosive. Look at Blake or even Lebron for example, Lebron has lost weight since his Miami days and he is at 35 years old as good as he was when dunking. Yes, he is not dunking over Ben Wallace type players anymore but that is not only related to explosiveness but because he is smarter now. Lebron is at an age where he has to take care of his body so some stuff that he can even do, he won't do to save his body.

Look at Draymond, he was a lot chubby when he entered the league but now he is a bit leaner. So long story short, Zion could lose some weight, the importance is he should not just lose weight for weight loss sake, he should lose fat and keep his muscle levels same, if he can do that than he would still be fine, 220 pounds pure muscle Zion would be even scarier than this Zion.
Yeah, and besides this condition of him, he's like a guard. I mean, his movements are like guards in the NBA.

And also, I want to point out the Miami's training in basketball. They wanted their player to be in shape when the play in the NBA. There was a news in which one of their players did not made it to the line up because of their condition.
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October 21, 2019, 02:18:15 PM
I agree, that's why he really needs to trim down that excess baggage of his otherwise it can give him problems in the future.
It is giving him problems already, the injuries are piling up at this early in his career.

I don't know what his current contract states, but according to this site https://hoopshype.com/player/nikola-jokic/salary/
Jokic will receive $27,504,630 this season and the based on project, it will increase in the 2 seasons to come.
If there's no problem inside the organization involving him, Nuggets will certainly keep him with a maximum contract, they need jokic as he is the team's best player.
They already invested a lot for this guy and they will never release him and trade with another star. At his age, he's already in his prime and also he's already a superstar.
It's hard to see Nuggets letting go of a superstar center like Jokic but if Denver fails to get that championship in a couple of years and he decides to leave to chase a ring, that will completely change things. A lot of power has shifted to the players
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October 21, 2019, 01:53:16 PM
Zion losing weight wouldn't equal to him being a bad player or not even being explosive. Look at Blake or even Lebron for example, Lebron has lost weight since his Miami days and he is at 35 years old as good as he was when dunking. Yes, he is not dunking over Ben Wallace type players anymore but that is not only related to explosiveness but because he is smarter now. Lebron is at an age where he has to take care of his body so some stuff that he can even do, he won't do to save his body.

Look at Draymond, he was a lot chubby when he entered the league but now he is a bit leaner. So long story short, Zion could lose some weight, the importance is he should not just lose weight for weight loss sake, he should lose fat and keep his muscle levels same, if he can do that than he would still be fine, 220 pounds pure muscle Zion would be even scarier than this Zion.
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