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October 22, 2019, 09:13:50 PM
I can say, Curry is not HOF yet because his career is still young and still has a lot to prove. MJ might seen something lacking for curry to be HOF at this stage of his basketball career but someday, he will be included in the HOF.
People are not appreciating curry despite him being the big reason why the Warriors are winning championship after championship.
Jordan if he compares curry to him, he might not appreciate him being a HOF but if he will compare to the current era, he will see that curry had change the NBA with his great 3 point shooting and even big man now are already adjusting themselves to learn how to shoot 3s.

You got a point there, but there are more players before Curry that's making these threes so how does he became different from those players before him? I don't think making threes makes you HOF but only if you change the game. However I still believe will be HOF in the future.

Prior to Curry 3's, we haven't seen it used as a tool as much as it is being used today because of Curry. 3's are used only in the dying seconds of a game. But Curry changes everything specially how it easy for him and his accuracy. And now the game has evolved because of him, we are not seeing 3's more of a weapon. It even affected the centre position now, as big guys are also spotting 3's here and there. Just imagine Shaq pulling that one?
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October 22, 2019, 07:56:32 PM
I can say, Curry is not HOF yet because his career is still young and still has a lot to prove. MJ might seen something lacking for curry to be HOF at this stage of his basketball career but someday, he will be included in the HOF.
People are not appreciating curry despite him being the big reason why the Warriors are winning championship after championship.
Jordan if he compares curry to him, he might not appreciate him being a HOF but if he will compare to the current era, he will see that curry had change the NBA with his great 3 point shooting and even big man now are already adjusting themselves to learn how to shoot 3s.

You got a point there, but there are more players before Curry that's making these threes so how does he became different from those players before him? I don't think making threes makes you HOF but only if you change the game. However I still believe will be HOF in the future.

It was done before but curry made it looks easy and he is not only scoring in 3s, he is different because he also win MVP and won the NBA finals several times. I don't know if the ranking is accurate here but among the greatest, curry is rank number 3 which soon he might surpass his own coach record.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/fg3_pct_career.html
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2849517-ranking-the-nbas-all-time-greatest-3-point-shooters#slide0
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October 22, 2019, 07:48:38 PM

I just want to bump this in case others missed this post. Let's play gambling here for fun.

We all know that it's almost close to zero chances now that Carmelo will be signed this year. You have more chance to win compared to my bet so take it now.

1 more slot open. The deadline of accepting my bet will be at the end of this month.

Guys, just for a changed, who wants to bet against me?

Will Melo be able to sign this year? As for me, YES. I pick YES because I think no one will bet for it based on the current Melo's situation that is almost no development or progress if some teams will still show interest to sign him. So basically, I'm the one who has the most risks here. Smiley

BTC0.005 each for first 2 who will take the bet.


This is very interesting, so this means we will know who will win by January 1, 2020?  I like to reserve that first slot then if the answer to my question is yes. I will bet against you.  Grin
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October 22, 2019, 07:42:49 PM
I can say, Curry is not HOF yet because his career is still young and still has a lot to prove. MJ might seen something lacking for curry to be HOF at this stage of his basketball career but someday, he will be included in the HOF.
People are not appreciating curry despite him being the big reason why the Warriors are winning championship after championship.
Jordan if he compares curry to him, he might not appreciate him being a HOF but if he will compare to the current era, he will see that curry had change the NBA with his great 3 point shooting and even big man now are already adjusting themselves to learn how to shoot 3s.

You got a point there, but there are more players before Curry that's making these threes so how does he became different from those players before him? I don't think making threes makes you HOF but only if you change the game. However I still believe will be HOF in the future.
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October 22, 2019, 06:33:22 PM
I can say, Curry is not HOF yet because his career is still young and still has a lot to prove. MJ might seen something lacking for curry to be HOF at this stage of his basketball career but someday, he will be included in the HOF.
People are not appreciating curry despite him being the big reason why the Warriors are winning championship after championship.
Jordan if he compares curry to him, he might not appreciate him being a HOF but if he will compare to the current era, he will see that curry had change the NBA with his great 3 point shooting and even big man now are already adjusting themselves to learn how to shoot 3s.
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October 22, 2019, 05:27:05 PM
Just a Game 1 though. But still, surely they will show us a close match since key players of both teams are there.

Current Moneyline odds:
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Still nice if you vote for LAC. That's Kawhi Leonard and anything can happen in basketball. And besides, even without PG the lineup is so good.

I am not going to bet on them against the Lakers with PG.
maybe we can take that discussion in the NBA betting thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5091185.1440

Anyway, thoughts on this one?

https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/1186499659969286144

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MJ on Steph Curry:

“Still a great player. Not a Hall of Famer yet, though. He’s not.”
That's a challenge of Curry, he need to take his team now to the Championship to prove the doubters, he is already a GOAT IMO, and I think he can be a hall famer as he still has a lot of games to play and every season we see some improvement.

I can say, Curry is not HOF yet because his career is still young and still has a lot to prove. MJ might seen something lacking for curry to be HOF at this stage of his basketball career but someday, he will be included in the HOF.
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October 22, 2019, 05:14:59 PM

Staples Center will surely be jampacked later as the NBA season will now begin.

I wonder who will receive the loudest cheer from LA fans between their home teams, Lakers or Clippers? Smiley
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October 22, 2019, 04:28:05 PM
Just spare that opinion of Michael Jordan, he is a legend and his standard is way different and far from us who are just watching the league. Although we can be aware of the technicalities and we're all watching their play and performances, there's something that the legend is wanting to see more about Curry but if it's just being an Hall of famer, well then still spare his opinion and credit the title to him. For someone who understands the circle inside the league, he knows what he's saying. It's not about jealousy or the achievement, he just might have higher standard.
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October 22, 2019, 04:03:52 PM
Can you name shooters that became HOF? Is Ray Allen HOF?

Hmm, don't know how you missed that. Ray Allen is a HOF.

And just for a quick note, being included in HOF takes several years in the process. There will be a selection out of all candidates every year. It can't be achieved right before a player retires or a few seasons later, even how good they are. There are even players from the 1960's which just recently included in HOF.


A hall of famer is the only person that has great criteria for judging another player and MJ is that person. He said that Curry isn't yet a HOF, then we need to respect that.

Disagree.

Jordan or any of these HOF players is entitled to say whatever they want in terms of judging another player however it doesn't make sense to include the HOF discussion in a conversation where it shouldn't be. Saying MJ is the only person that has great criteria for judging a player looks like a BS to me. As I said above, that's Jordan's view so we have just to let it that way but we don't have to take that "generally".
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October 22, 2019, 03:43:09 PM
MJ has a higher standard than most of us, that's the only reason I can think of why he said that. If we can only find out who he thinks as a Hall of Famer now then we can make a better comparison.
A hall of famer is the only person that has great criteria for judging another player and MJ is that person. He said that Curry isn't yet a HOF, then we need to respect that. Can you name shooters that became HOF? Is Ray Allen HOF?

The legend has spoken and he's entitled with his opinion because he's been in the league and achieved a lot of things. I don't disagree nor agree with what he said, it's an opinion from him and we should respect that.
I agree, opinion is an opinion. I somewhat disagree since Curry have won 3 rings already since it also a great addition for him to enter HOF, but it's in a form of a superteam. Unlike Jordan, he's with Scottie.

Scottie pippen is a top 50 players of all time, him and scottie WERE part of a super team.  I dont think you realize how good scottie was.  Same goes with magic or bird or a ton of other players.  They just didnt call them super teams back then.
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October 22, 2019, 02:39:19 PM

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MJ on Steph Curry:

“Still a great player. Not a Hall of Famer yet, though. He’s not.”


Watched this in youtube when a notification popped up on my smartphone.
Yes he aint a Hall of Famer yet.
Why? He aint retiring for a lot of years. The guy is still young. But he is a future Hall of Famer.
Curry changed the way basketball could be played. Something which is being mostly used by now.
Name it, Harden, Lillard and even the young guns shooting at a range which before we thought was an impossible shot or just based on luck.
Even the tall guys are doing it. Not just a paint player anymore but doing all around and shooting threes.

Maybe in the next 5 years he will be listed there.
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October 22, 2019, 02:38:22 PM
MJ has a higher standard than most of us, that's the only reason I can think of why he said that. If we can only find out who he thinks as a Hall of Famer now then we can make a better comparison.
A hall of famer is the only person that has great criteria for judging another player and MJ is that person. He said that Curry isn't yet a HOF, then we need to respect that. Can you name shooters that became HOF? Is Ray Allen HOF?
Is the question relevant to MJ's statement? I don't see it as connected to my statement and I don't know why you brought that up. 
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October 22, 2019, 02:23:42 PM
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MJ on Steph Curry:

“Still a great player. Not a Hall of Famer yet, though. He’s not.”

Technically he is correct. He is not a HOF, YET. He is a great player and will be HOF someday.

Come on, we all know that MJ isn't playing with those technicalities. He is implying that he wanted to see more from Steph and if I were to read Jordan's mind, it's probably being clutch. We are all aware of MJ's clutch perfomances in all the NBA finals he's played and Steph isn't on that level yet.

By those standards no one will ever reach the hof then.  We can all agree if mj isnt the goat he is top 3 without a doubt.  Just because someone isnt on jordans level is not a knock and doesnt mean they dont belong in the HOF.  It can be argued we might never see anyone dominate like mj did in his prime.  He isnt the bottom standard he is the golden standard
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October 22, 2019, 02:21:47 PM
MJ has a higher standard than most of us, that's the only reason I can think of why he said that. If we can only find out who he thinks as a Hall of Famer now then we can make a better comparison.
A hall of famer is the only person that has great criteria for judging another player and MJ is that person. He said that Curry isn't yet a HOF, then we need to respect that. Can you name shooters that became HOF? Is Ray Allen HOF?

The legend has spoken and he's entitled with his opinion because he's been in the league and achieved a lot of things. I don't disagree nor agree with what he said, it's an opinion from him and we should respect that.
I agree, opinion is an opinion. I somewhat disagree since Curry have won 3 rings already since it also a great addition for him to enter HOF, but it's in a form of a superteam. Unlike Jordan, he's with Scottie.
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October 22, 2019, 02:07:40 PM

Anyway, thoughts on this one?

https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/1186499659969286144

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MJ on Steph Curry:

“Still a great player. Not a Hall of Famer yet, though. He’s not.”

That was MJ's point of view so I will let it that way. I don't mind if he's looking for "something" to Steph. Anyways, it shouldn't be a big deal, it's just that the interviewer laugh when MJ says it lol.

And generally, Steph doesn't need to comply with MJ's criteria or to anyone. He just needs to play wise and hard. That's why I like the competition of NBA today, no stacked teams (I didn't consider LA's team as stacked) and talents are spread. If Warriors will able to acquired this seasons' Larry O'Brien Trophy, at any chance, with only Steph as their main gunner, I believed he will be more recognized as one of the greats. No Durant, No Thompson, just him and his good role players teammates, definitely a road to HOF for him.
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October 22, 2019, 01:51:21 PM
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MJ on Steph Curry:

“Still a great player. Not a Hall of Famer yet, though. He’s not.”

Technically he is correct. He is not a HOF, YET. He is a great player and will be HOF someday.

Come on, we all know that MJ isn't playing with those technicalities. He is implying that he wanted to see more from Steph and if I were to read Jordan's mind, it's probably being clutch. We are all aware of MJ's clutch perfomances in all the NBA finals he's played and Steph isn't on that level yet.
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October 22, 2019, 01:35:08 PM
I feel like we have talked about Zion and his weight waaaay too much and forget that this guy was the only hope for Duke last season (even though they end up losing) so he was overused and he got injured and maybe he just couldn't recover properly without a decent doctor.

Remember health is a very expensive and rarely found commodity in USA so having the best doctors and being able to pay for it was never an option for a kid like Zion. Now, he is in Pelicans and they have awesome doctors that they pay a ton of money for and maybe they checked him and said "this is not a new injury, you need to have a surgery and rest before you can play again" so he doesn't force it even more. I feel like 50% chance it is due to his weight but 50% chance it was due to him not being able to recover properly from his previous injuries and still playing with it which made it worse so smallest thing looked like it lead to surgery.
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October 22, 2019, 12:35:21 PM
Anyway, thoughts on this one?

https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/1186499659969286144

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MJ on Steph Curry:

“Still a great player. Not a Hall of Famer yet, though. He’s not.”

MJ has a higher standard than most of us, that's the only reason I can think of why he said that. If we can only find out who he thinks as a Hall of Famer now then we can make a better comparison.
It's whom MJ thinks the Hall famer indeed before we can say why he thinks that Steph still not in he's criteria, looking to this statement from the Airness, A big motivation for Steph to show more and to prove he's worth in the eyes of the supreme hierarchy.

MJ is always be the criteria in terms of basketball supremacy.  A good take for Steph will make him more humble and keep improving his legacy.

It has to do with a longevity thing.  Steph is hands down a 1st ballot HOF if he keeps playing the way he does.  He has the nba titles, mvp, scoring titles, 50/90/40 % behind him...the list goes on.  1 more pick away and the knicks would have had him...woulda could shoulda
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October 22, 2019, 11:45:08 AM
Anyway, thoughts on this one?

https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/1186499659969286144

Quote
MJ on Steph Curry:

“Still a great player. Not a Hall of Famer yet, though. He’s not.”

MJ has a higher standard than most of us, that's the only reason I can think of why he said that. If we can only find out who he thinks as a Hall of Famer now then we can make a better comparison.
It's whom MJ thinks the Hall famer indeed before we can say why he thinks that Steph still not in he's criteria, looking to this statement from the Airness, A big motivation for Steph to show more and to prove he's worth in the eyes of the supreme hierarchy.

MJ is always be the criteria in terms of basketball supremacy.  A good take for Steph will make him more humble and keep improving his legacy.
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October 22, 2019, 11:28:17 AM
Tonight there is a big game in Los Angeles between Los Angeles Lacers and Los Angeles Clippers, I'm exciting to watch this game! It's about glory about who dominate the town is't yellow or white, both teams have great players, Lacers have the big LeBron James and Anthony Davis and other stars.. In the other side there is Leonard Khawi and other stars.. It will be a great game and I think Lakers will be the winner.

Both teams do not have the complete cast because of injury but I guess it will still be very interesting to watch. I will still be watching and will be betting on Lakers this time because PG13 won't be playing tonight.

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MJ on Steph Curry:

“Still a great player. Not a Hall of Famer yet, though. He’s not.”

Technically he is correct. He is not a HOF, YET. He is a great player and will be HOF someday.
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