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I was researching how much his salary because I was curious why we talk a lot about Tacko fall here.
I read this . https://heavy.com/sports/2019/07/tacko-fall-contract-salary-how-much/, and that article says he does not have a complete contract yet like NBA players normally have where they have fix amount of contract in a certain term, I think Tacko has to work hard here and showed his best so he will get a long term contract with the Boston.

I don't know what others think but I'm interested with Tacko because of his size and what he can bring to the Celtics team. He was not drafted and I also want to see what the Celtics management can do to take advantage of the young man's potential.

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Time to start the betting also, if Tacko can get good minutes, that means he is effective to be in the celtics team and we could see a low scoring game for their opponent, maybe more under games with this man in the Celtics.

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Quote from: Japinat on August 27, 2019, 02:27:51 AM

I was researching how much his salary because I was curious why we talk a lot about Tacko fall here.
I read this . https://heavy.com/sports/2019/07/tacko-fall-contract-salary-how-much/, and that article says he does not have a complete contract yet like NBA players normally have where they have fix amount of contract in a certain term, I think Tacko has to work hard here and showed his best so he will get a long term contract with the Boston.

I don't know what others think but I'm interested with Tacko because of his size and what he can bring to the Celtics team. He was not drafted and I also want to see what the Celtics management can do to take advantage of the young man's potential.

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Quote from: freedomgo on August 25, 2019, 08:25:14 AM

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I googled for fast NBA center position players and this name appeared, Hakeem Olajuwon. Mabe also like him? I watched his highlights on Youtube, he plays like a forward in the offense.

He got some of that Dream Shake but not the quickness of Hakeem. I like how fast he runs up and down the court, it's great for both offense and defense. If he can develop some mid-range jumpers or hooks in a year or two, there's a big chance that the Celtics will be lifting that trophy again.

I was researching how much his salary because I was curious why we talk a lot about Tacko fall here.
I read this . https://heavy.com/sports/2019/07/tacko-fall-contract-salary-how-much/, and that article says he does not have a complete contract yet like NBA players normally have where they have fix amount of contract in a certain term, I think Tacko has to work hard here and showed his best so he will get a long term contract with the Boston.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on August 26, 2019, 11:54:45 PM

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I googled for fast NBA center position players and this name appeared, Hakeem Olajuwon. Mabe also like him? I watched his highlights on Youtube, he plays like a forward in the offense.

He got some of that Dream Shake but not the quickness of Hakeem. I like how fast he runs up and down the court, it's great for both offense and defense. If he can develop some mid-range jumpers or hooks in a year or two, there's a big chance that the Celtics will be lifting that trophy again.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on August 26, 2019, 11:54:45 PM

Quote from: Reid on August 25, 2019, 09:19:31 AM

Quote from: freedomgo on August 25, 2019, 08:25:14 AM

Let's see how he manage this rookie, coach steve is known as a good coach in experimenting his line up, but honestly, I haven't seen lately a guy like his size who are successful in the NBA. That last time I saw was Yao Ming, after his era, big man which are super tall are not anymore successful.

One thing I notice is that the pace in the NBA now are getting faster, so they can't cope up with the fast face with big minutes.
The opposing team will always find the weakness or the disadvantage so they can attack, also NBA teams now have improve their outside shooting so they have an option if the inside is well guarded.

He is actually good. I have seen him play.
He is faster than any normal big man. More faster rhan Shaq and maybe even faster than Dwight.

It will help if he gets more training on mid range shots. More like a Nowitzki type of game plus some muscle plays too.

But rookies this days are just not given that much minutes. It will be a problem for veterans and they might even do some bad behaviours in the locker room.

I googled for fast NBA center position players and this name appeared, Hakeem Olajuwon. Mabe also like him? I watched his highlights on Youtube, he plays like a forward in the offense.

There is a big disparity in height, Hakeem Olajuwon is 7′ 0″ while Tacko fall is 7′ 7″, so obviously Hakeem Olajuwon is faster and this guy is an NBA superstar while Tacko fall is only in its early career, meaning, he has a lot to prove to be comparable to stars like Hakeem.

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Quote from: Reid on August 24, 2019, 06:27:42 PM

They are hyping Tacko Fall but not yet. He is still a rookie so they will not give him that much minutes.
Also, this big men will be used depending who they are against with. They need more speed to shine the greatness of Kemba.

Makes sense.

Imo, Tacko should be utilized more while he is still young and agile. I've watched some of his highlights and he is quick for a guy his size. It is up to coach Stevens now how he will link up the two effectively.

Haven't heard of Tacko before if he is agile and quick for his height then definitely he can add dimensions to the Celtics offence. I'm sure he will be exposed by coach Stevens and really test this rookie to see if he has the tools.

@bbc.reporter - Hakeem is breed different though, yes he is quick, and ahead of his time. Just google "Dream Shake" and you will know what I'm talking about. League is not like in the 90's, no more post up plays, one on one. It's fast pace and big man now needs outside shooting specially 3 points.

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Let's see how he manage this rookie, coach steve is known as a good coach in experimenting his line up, but honestly, I haven't seen lately a guy like his size who are successful in the NBA. That last time I saw was Yao Ming, after his era, big man which are super tall are not anymore successful.

One thing I notice is that the pace in the NBA now are getting faster, so they can't cope up with the fast face with big minutes.
The opposing team will always find the weakness or the disadvantage so they can attack, also NBA teams now have improve their outside shooting so they have an option if the inside is well guarded.

He is actually good. I have seen him play.
He is faster than any normal big man. More faster rhan Shaq and maybe even faster than Dwight.

It will help if he gets more training on mid range shots. More like a Nowitzki type of game plus some muscle plays too.

But rookies this days are just not given that much minutes. It will be a problem for veterans and they might even do some bad behaviours in the locker room.

I googled for fast NBA center position players and this name appeared, Hakeem Olajuwon. Mabe also like him? I watched his highlights on Youtube, he plays like a forward in the offense.

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Quote from: harizen on August 26, 2019, 06:56:16 PM

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.. I hope he learns how to manage the time of Kawhi well like what Nick Nurse effective did.

Doc already knows well how to handle several stars in the roster. Managing playing time for Kawhi is just a piece of cake for him unless there will be "something" that will spoil the good relationship along the way.

Doc is a respected coach and Kawhi is not known to be a demanding player so I think the relationship will work out.
Clippers wasn't really a good team like the other hype teams in the west, but, they manage to enter in the playoffs and even beat the Warriors 2 games in 6 games, that's was already good enough knowing the Warriors is the depending champ.

Look at this line up .

William is still a 2nd unit and that makes the Clippers a good team since they have a strong 2nd unit.
Another six month of the year award for sure.

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Quote from: Reid on August 26, 2019, 03:04:31 PM

Doc Rivers to Kawhi.
From Boston Globe.
What do you guys think of this?

Gold old days..

--> https://www.slamonline.com/nba/doc-rivers-kawhi-leonard-is-a-quiet-version-of-kevin-garnett/

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Quote from: stadus on August 26, 2019, 06:23:18 PM

.. I hope he learns how to manage the time of Kawhi well like what Nick Nurse effective did.

Doc already knows well how to handle several stars in the roster. Managing playing time for Kawhi is just a piece of cake for him unless there will be "something" that will spoil the good relationship along the way.

Quote from: Ranly123 on August 25, 2019, 08:23:58 PM

The game has evolved thats why bigman like Drummond need to evolve also to contribute to the team and not depend solely on thier build.

Do you mean changing of style after all these years on his expertise zone? Like what? Work on his Perimeter shooting? Work on his Three-point shooting? I might disagree.

Let him work on his position. Yes, centers might not be really necessary at today's NBA but that doesn't mean centers should cross-paths. Drummond can evolve by utilizing more his skills and work on being much dominant at his position. Let his teammates do the pure shooting. But you know, no offense to Pistons fans but Detroit isn't that good in recreating their rosters for these past several seasons that's why we don't see much of Drummond.

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Quote from: Reid on August 26, 2019, 03:04:31 PM

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From afar, he reminds me a lot of Kevin [Garnett],” Rivers said. “He reminds me of a quiet version of Kevin. Imagine a Kevin Garnett that didn’t talk — his actions are why we followed Kevin. As verbal as Kevin was and as expressive as he was, if he didn’t follow through with his actions, none of that verbal stuff would have worked. So to me, from afar, he reminds me a lot of Kevin that way in that he tends to want to show you by example. That’s the best leadership.

Doc Rivers to Kawhi.
From Boston Globe.
What do you guys think of this?

Rivers should be happy with Kawhi playing with his team as that gives him a chance to say being a coach longer if the current roster will do better compared to last season and if the best players in the team like PG, Williams, and our man Kawhi will have a great chemistry.

Probably Rivers already miss to be in the championship game, and if the LA Clippers will be in the Finals this season, it's gonna be his best chance to be a champion again. I hope he learns how to manage the time of Kawhi well like what Nick Nurse effective did.

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Quote from: guoyu78 on August 26, 2019, 01:16:17 PM

The reason why unrealistically tall players not getting minutes is that game became super fast, the pace of the game is around 107 possessions and that is way too fast for any big man in the league right now, three points didn't even become the real reason why big man stopped being dominating, its because the low post "lets slow the game down" became a old fashioned and everyone is attacking all the time, ball moves too fast.

Dictating the phase of the game.
That is what Houston is good with specially Mike D'Antoni.
He want it fast, he want the lead to go way far that it cannot be taken back.
Whenever the opposing team gets slower they will dictate it again to a new one dragging the opponent to do the same thing and the plays will be broken.

Quote from: guoyu78 on August 26, 2019, 01:16:17 PM

So, when Tacko starts to run from one part of the court to the other the possessions already ends. He will play for 1-2 years at most but I don't see a future in NBA for him.

C'mon, that is too harsh. We will never know. Some of them played way far. The Gasol brothers is one example of it. Even if Mark have a big body build he still made it this far with little injuries.

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From afar, he reminds me a lot of Kevin [Garnett],” Rivers said. “He reminds me of a quiet version of Kevin. Imagine a Kevin Garnett that didn’t talk — his actions are why we followed Kevin. As verbal as Kevin was and as expressive as he was, if he didn’t follow through with his actions, none of that verbal stuff would have worked. So to me, from afar, he reminds me a lot of Kevin that way in that he tends to want to show you by example. That’s the best leadership.

Doc Rivers to Kawhi.
From Boston Globe.
What do you guys think of this?

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Quote from: Reid on August 25, 2019, 07:43:07 PM

I think they will give him like 20 minutes. Let us say those are minimums for big men like him. 4 minutes a quarter will not be bad as long as the effort is there.
If he could show that he could do more then he might stay on the floor for a longer period.

I really do hope so that he could get that minutes. But, considering the factors that will hinder him to have those minutes could be devastating on his part. What's not really best for big men is their stamina. I mean, there could be some guys that are somewhat faster even though they're big but most of the big men out there are really slow and they're easy to run out of stamina. Let's take Marjanovic as an example. He can showcase strength, moves and etc. yet it's fast to drain his stamina to play hard on the court.

Quote from: Reid on August 25, 2019, 07:43:07 PM

Speaking of big men, Andre Drummond got a player option next year. He is one of the best center in the league and I bet they will be offering a lot to him.

Hmm he could be a part of a team that is currently rebuilding. He's young and he's one of the best centers in the league. Well, we all know that Griffin and Drummond's duo is not working well. What I meant from this is gaining a place in the playoffs. They did once but they fall off short because of LeBron's cavalier team.

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Tacko is not bad but he is not good neither, there was a lot of big guys in the league since Yao but none of them were able to get decent minutes and most left for Europe where they can get some minutes because of their talent as well as their height.

The reason why unrealistically tall players not getting minutes is that game became super fast, the pace of the game is around 107 possessions and that is way too fast for any big man in the league right now, three points didn't even become the real reason why big man stopped being dominating, its because the low post "lets slow the game down" became a old fashioned and everyone is attacking all the time, ball moves too fast.

So, when Tacko starts to run from one part of the court to the other the possessions already ends. He will play for 1-2 years at most but I don't see a future in NBA for him.

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Quote from: Reid on August 25, 2019, 09:19:31 AM

Quote from: freedomgo on August 25, 2019, 08:25:14 AM

Let's see how he manage this rookie, coach steve is known as a good coach in experimenting his line up, but honestly, I haven't seen lately a guy like his size who are successful in the NBA. That last time I saw was Yao Ming, after his era, big man which are super tall are not anymore successful.

One thing I notice is that the pace in the NBA now are getting faster, so they can't cope up with the fast face with big minutes.
The opposing team will always find the weakness or the disadvantage so they can attack, also NBA teams now have improve their outside shooting so they have an option if the inside is well guarded.

He is actually good. I have seen him play.
He is faster than any normal big man. More faster rhan Shaq and maybe even faster than Dwight.

It will help if he gets more training on mid range shots. More like a Nowitzki type of game plus some muscle plays too.

But rookies this days are just not given that much minutes. It will be a problem for veterans and they might even do some bad behaviours in the locker room.

Hopefully he will show his skills with the Celtics, they are under a good coaching staff, AFAIR, they give rookies good minutes like Jayson Tatum, and I know this guy is exceptional, so he needs to step up so the team will see him at that level.

The Celtics team is full of young players and because they are young, they are expected to be faster and physical, so let's see what he can offer.
I'm not a fan of this guy yet as he haven't proven in the NBA yet, but maybe I might change my mind if he live up to our expectation.

Watched some of his highlights now, this guy played well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6NtbIEdwDE

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Quote from: Reid on August 25, 2019, 07:43:07 PM

Quote from: spadormie on August 25, 2019, 11:51:16 AM

What's interesting about Tacko Fall is only his size. Same as what we are talking about with Marjanovic and how he can dunk without exerting too much effort in jumping. Don't get me wrong, this guy is really good playing basketball. But, I think that he can't get decent minutes on the court since they have strong big men plus they proved themselves on and off the court. Ernest Kanter and the guy that can be an MVP on most of their team game on a well-known league in Turkey. I think the guy's name is Poirier. And is Bayne's still on Celtics? If he is, he proved himself also in the league. I guess Tacko could play for about 6-10 mins per game?

I think they will give him like 20 minutes. Let us say those are minimums for big men like him. 4 minutes a quarter will not be bad as long as the effort is there.
If he could show that he could do more then he might stay on the floor for a longer period.

Speaking of big men, Andre Drummond got a player option next year. He is one of the best center in the league and I bet they will be offering a lot to him.
Others on the line is (2020-2021 free agency and player option) AD, Mark Gasol, Favors and Whiteside.
As the youngest of them, Drummond could be the best pick if ever he really wanted to jump into another team.

AD is the best out of the mentioned above and not Drummond. Big man isn't that much of a factor in this era of basketball because of the fast paced and well spaced floor due to three point shooting. The game has evolved thats why bigman like Drummond need to evolve also to contribute to the team and not depend solely on thier build.

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Quote from: spadormie on August 25, 2019, 11:51:16 AM

What's interesting about Tacko Fall is only his size. Same as what we are talking about with Marjanovic and how he can dunk without exerting too much effort in jumping. Don't get me wrong, this guy is really good playing basketball. But, I think that he can't get decent minutes on the court since they have strong big men plus they proved themselves on and off the court. Ernest Kanter and the guy that can be an MVP on most of their team game on a well-known league in Turkey. I think the guy's name is Poirier. And is Bayne's still on Celtics? If he is, he proved himself also in the league. I guess Tacko could play for about 6-10 mins per game?

I think they will give him like 20 minutes. Let us say those are minimums for big men like him. 4 minutes a quarter will not be bad as long as the effort is there.
If he could show that he could do more then he might stay on the floor for a longer period.

Speaking of big men, Andre Drummond got a player option next year. He is one of the best center in the league and I bet they will be offering a lot to him.
Others on the line is (2020-2021 free agency and player option) AD, Mark Gasol, Favors and Whiteside.
As the youngest of them, Drummond could be the best pick if ever he really wanted to jump into another team.

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Quote from: Reid on August 25, 2019, 09:19:31 AM

Quote from: freedomgo on August 25, 2019, 08:25:14 AM

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What's interesting about Tacko Fall is only his size. Same as what we are talking about with Marjanovic and how he can dunk without exerting too much effort in jumping. Don't get me wrong, this guy is really good playing basketball. But, I think that he can't get decent minutes on the court since they have strong big men plus they proved themselves on and off the court. Ernest Kanter and the guy that can be an MVP on most of their team game on a well-known league in Turkey. I think the guy's name is Poirier. And is Bayne's still on Celtics? If he is, he proved himself also in the league. I guess Tacko could play for about 6-10 mins per game?

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Quote from: freedomgo on August 25, 2019, 08:25:14 AM

Let's see how he manage this rookie, coach steve is known as a good coach in experimenting his line up, but honestly, I haven't seen lately a guy like his size who are successful in the NBA. That last time I saw was Yao Ming, after his era, big man which are super tall are not anymore successful.

One thing I notice is that the pace in the NBA now are getting faster, so they can't cope up with the fast face with big minutes.
The opposing team will always find the weakness or the disadvantage so they can attack, also NBA teams now have improve their outside shooting so they have an option if the inside is well guarded.

He is actually good. I have seen him play.
He is faster than any normal big man. More faster rhan Shaq and maybe even faster than Dwight.

It will help if he gets more training on mid range shots. More like a Nowitzki type of game plus some muscle plays too.

But rookies this days are just not given that much minutes. It will be a problem for veterans and they might even do some bad behaviours in the locker room.

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Quote from: rosezionjohn on August 25, 2019, 07:56:25 AM

Quote from: Reid on August 24, 2019, 06:27:42 PM

They are hyping Tacko Fall but not yet. He is still a rookie so they will not give him that much minutes.
Also, this big men will be used depending who they are against with. They need more speed to shine the greatness of Kemba.

Makes sense.

Imo, Tacko should be utilized more while he is still young and agile. I've watched some of his highlights and he is quick for a guy his size. It is up to coach Stevens now how he will link up the two effectively.

Let's see how he manage this rookie, coach steve is known as a good coach in experimenting his line up, but honestly, I haven't seen lately a guy like his size who are successful in the NBA. That last time I saw was Yao Ming, after his era, big man which are super tall are not anymore successful.

One thing I notice is that the pace in the NBA now are getting faster, so they can't cope up with the fast face with big minutes.
The opposing team will always find the weakness or the disadvantage so they can attack, also NBA teams now have improve their outside shooting so they have an option if the inside is well guarded.

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