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November 16, 2019, 06:48:31 AM

It will be a hard fought race for the MVP.
There is Kawhi, Lebron and the new crowd favorite Doncic.
Triple doubles or double double, these guys are game changers and Gianis might be on the last of the list.
It will depend also on their health. if possible 80 games should be played to take that trophy for season MVP.

I will vote for Doncic now. Give him some boost to be more confident and be the new face of the league.  Grin

Luca has the very big chance to become the youngest MVP, younger than D.Rose (MVP at age 22). Im voting half for Doncic, as he continued to be consistent by leading the Dallas Mavericks last season up to this season averaging almost a triple double at a very high level of basketball IQ.
While, I'm also voting half for LeBron. He's in his 17th season and were playing like the LeBron in 2013.

If Doncic wont get the MVP this year, I'm pretty sure next season he will.

Don't forget James Harden as well.

He is playing MVP caliber again, averaging almost 39 points a game. So it will be interesting how the MVP this season goes (although it is still early). Of course, many wanted to see Luka winning because he really elevated his game this season.

But we have to see his team win though, so that the argument for him in the discussions for the MVP will be solid and legit, just saying.

I haven't forgotten about him.
It is just that there is a voting system now and Harden is not the type which is being liked by the people.
That is why Gianis won the MVP even though Harden had the better stats.
One reason why I dont put him in my list.
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November 16, 2019, 05:04:36 AM

It will be a hard fought race for the MVP.
There is Kawhi, Lebron and the new crowd favorite Doncic.
Triple doubles or double double, these guys are game changers and Gianis might be on the last of the list.
It will depend also on their health. if possible 80 games should be played to take that trophy for season MVP.

I will vote for Doncic now. Give him some boost to be more confident and be the new face of the league.  Grin

Luca has the very big chance to become the youngest MVP, younger than D.Rose (MVP at age 22). Im voting half for Doncic, as he continued to be consistent by leading the Dallas Mavericks last season up to this season averaging almost a triple double at a very high level of basketball IQ.
While, I'm also voting half for LeBron. He's in his 17th season and were playing like the LeBron in 2013.

If Doncic wont get the MVP this year, I'm pretty sure next season he will.

Don't forget James Harden as well.

He is playing MVP caliber again, averaging almost 39 points a game. So it will be interesting how the MVP this season goes (although it is still early). Of course, many wanted to see Luka winning because he really elevated his game this season.

But we have to see his team win though, so that the argument for him in the discussions for the MVP will be solid and legit, just saying.

If both are playing on the same level, it will be James Harden who has an edge because definitely his team will end with a better standing compared to the Mavericks. Last season, IIRC, the race was between Harden and Giannis but Giannis team has a great standing owning the best record in the NBA regular season so he won that award.

That would be a factor. Although the individual performance is going to count big, it is doubtless another factor if you can carry your whole team and win games, and not just make high points, double double, or triple double but end up losing games anyway. Doncic may very well be a player fighting for that precious MVP award against other stars, but he needs to be consistent for the season is long. And Dallas has to record more wins. 
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November 16, 2019, 04:43:27 AM
^^ Definitely, Zion's will need to adjust to NBA playing style.

He hasn't played a single game in the regular season, so we can't tell.

He was unfortunately injured during the pre season and injuries are normal, every player are vulnerable to it, whether its preseason, regular season, or playoffs. Let's just hope he can come back bringing the same intensity he showed during the preseason so he will become a big help to his team to rank up.

I mean he can't just dunk over everyone, and experience players are going to bodied him and this could make him uncomfortable. Unless he has the mentality of Lebron James during his rookie year. So for me, Zion needs to adjust psychologically and then see where his body are going to take him in his first season.

He doesn't just work based on what he like, he sure have a coach or a trainer that is here to guide him because they want to protect him and the organization's investment to him.
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November 16, 2019, 04:18:14 AM
^^ Definitely, Zion's will need to adjust to NBA playing style.

I mean he can't just dunk over everyone, and experience players are going to bodied him and this could make him uncomfortable. Unless he has the mentality of Lebron James during his rookie year. So for me, Zion needs to adjust psychologically and then see where his body are going to take him in his first season.
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November 16, 2019, 04:08:27 AM

this is the current rank for total point leaders rookie 2019. from the list above, I like the style of Ja Morant and Coby White. Ja Morant with good speed put on Coby White is a good shooter. unfortunately, Zion still can't play until now.


I have a feeling that zion's not going to meet expectations when he plays. I mean, not a draft bust, and he could be decent or starter caliber at best, but not the dominant type that the pelicans can build a young team around. Impressive ncaa stint yes, but its likely the guy won't have the same effect when he plays with the big guys competitively.
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November 16, 2019, 03:38:27 AM

this is the current rank for total point leaders rookie 2019. from the list above, I like the style of Ja Morant and Coby White. Ja Morant with good speed put on Coby White is a good shooter. unfortunately, Zion still can't play until now.
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November 16, 2019, 03:26:04 AM

It will be a hard fought race for the MVP.
There is Kawhi, Lebron and the new crowd favorite Doncic.
Triple doubles or double double, these guys are game changers and Gianis might be on the last of the list.
It will depend also on their health. if possible 80 games should be played to take that trophy for season MVP.

I will vote for Doncic now. Give him some boost to be more confident and be the new face of the league.  Grin

Luca has the very big chance to become the youngest MVP, younger than D.Rose (MVP at age 22). Im voting half for Doncic, as he continued to be consistent by leading the Dallas Mavericks last season up to this season averaging almost a triple double at a very high level of basketball IQ.
While, I'm also voting half for LeBron. He's in his 17th season and were playing like the LeBron in 2013.

If Doncic wont get the MVP this year, I'm pretty sure next season he will.

Don't forget James Harden as well.

He is playing MVP caliber again, averaging almost 39 points a game. So it will be interesting how the MVP this season goes (although it is still early). Of course, many wanted to see Luka winning because he really elevated his game this season.

But we have to see his team win though, so that the argument for him in the discussions for the MVP will be solid and legit, just saying.

If both are playing on the same level, it will be James Harden who has an edge because definitely his team will end with a better standing compared to the Mavericks. Last season, IIRC, the race was between Harden and Giannis but Giannis team has a great standing owning the best record in the NBA regular season so he won that award.
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November 16, 2019, 03:21:38 AM

It will be a hard fought race for the MVP.
There is Kawhi, Lebron and the new crowd favorite Doncic.
Triple doubles or double double, these guys are game changers and Gianis might be on the last of the list.
It will depend also on their health. if possible 80 games should be played to take that trophy for season MVP.

I will vote for Doncic now. Give him some boost to be more confident and be the new face of the league.  Grin

Luca has the very big chance to become the youngest MVP, younger than D.Rose (MVP at age 22). Im voting half for Doncic, as he continued to be consistent by leading the Dallas Mavericks last season up to this season averaging almost a triple double at a very high level of basketball IQ.
While, I'm also voting half for LeBron. He's in his 17th season and were playing like the LeBron in 2013.

If Doncic wont get the MVP this year, I'm pretty sure next season he will.

Don't forget James Harden as well.

He is playing MVP caliber again, averaging almost 39 points a game. So it will be interesting how the MVP this season goes (although it is still early). Of course, many wanted to see Luka winning because he really elevated his game this season.

But we have to see his team win though, so that the argument for him in the discussions for the MVP will be solid and legit, just saying.
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November 16, 2019, 03:10:13 AM
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Alvin Gentry confirmed that Zion Williamson (knee surgery) will not play in November.

It's a lot of time to wait and their struggle might continue.

Currently they are 3-8 (w-L) and they are lucky not to be in the bottom, thanks to Holiday they won in their last game against the Clippers by spoiling the return of Paul George but they can't keep it consistent if they will only rely on holiday.

They badly need someone who can produce points consistently, and I believe Zion Williamson is the one that could help them on that department.
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November 16, 2019, 02:58:36 AM

we need to wait and need to see her play.
he is not her, he is "his". Grin

I hope he didn't disappoint the fans and the club. Melo will join the Blazers on their upcoming Roadtrip (CMIIW).
he will try his best, he disappointed two teams already, the OKC and the Rockets, so I'm sure after a long break, he already realize and had the strategy on what to do now that he has a contract.

but yeah let's forget about Melo and wait until he can play for Blazers. By the way, how about Zion Williamson condition? when will he be ready to play for the Pelicans?

You can check the latest update in this site, https://www.rotoworld.com/basketball/nba/player/50955/zion-williamson

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Alvin Gentry confirmed that Zion Williamson (knee surgery) will not play in November.
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November 16, 2019, 02:51:45 AM
I think the contract is good for the club and for players because Trailblazers and Carmelo agree in a contract agreement (Non-Guaranteed). Melo will get $14K while in the Portland Roster. His contract will be fully guaranteed (Fully-Guaranteed) if he is not released after 7 January 2020.
Melo for sure will try his very best to prove his worth, he really wanted to play and to what I understand he also willing to adjust his level, He's willing to play even in a support cast and not the star caliber the way he was treated before. I'm also hoping that he's contract will continue and he bring good help for CJ and Dame. With his experienced he can add mental boost for Dame and CJ while trying to workout with blending the chemistry.
we need to wait and need to see her play. I hope he didn't disappoint the fans and the club. Melo will join the Blazers on their upcoming Roadtrip (CMIIW).
but yeah let's forget about Melo and wait until he can play for Blazers. By the way, how about Zion Williamson condition? when will he be ready to play for the Pelicans?
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November 16, 2019, 02:48:41 AM
Not sure if Melo is the perfect player to give a boost to the team. Melo is an icon but he is the leader that does not easily gets along perfectly well with other players, not especially as just a simple team booster and not as a star player in court, which he still believe he is until now. 
No one would know unless we see him playing with the Blazers and there's a good effect on the team.
Melo once lead the NY knicks so he has that kind of leadership that could surely help the Blazers if he will just always follow the game plan.

The important thing here is the acceptance of the Blazer's key player and with that, Damian Lillard's acceptance of Melo in the team is a good thing to start with. Melo may say it or not but he may now realized how hard it is to be rejected on the game that you love and hope that he is humbled by the experience. Setting aside the pride, is key here if he want to prolong his basketball career for at least a year.
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November 16, 2019, 02:08:17 AM
Not sure if Melo is the perfect player to give a boost to the team. Melo is an icon but he is the leader that does not easily gets along perfectly well with other players, not especially as just a simple team booster and not as a star player in court, which he still believe he is until now. 
No one would know unless we see him playing with the Blazers and there's a good effect on the team.
Melo once lead the NY knicks so he has that kind of leadership that could surely help the Blazers if he will just always follow the game plan.
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November 16, 2019, 01:48:12 AM
Now, Melo has the opportunity to silence all existing criticism. If he proves successful in Portland, then he can extend his career even longer. I'm really happy for Melo finally getting another shot. I believe he still got plenty left in his tank. Prove them wrong Melo!
I really like the idea of the Trailblazers getting Carmelo Anthony as their wingman. It's like this, whenever Portland is hitting playoffs they are playing like they need some extra help cause dame and mccollum are being doubled most of the time. And with another man getting some shots that is wide open, it's lights out. And besides, in Houston, taking a mid range is a sin. Here in Portland, they're allowed to do so.
I think the contract is good for the club and for players because Trailblazers and Carmelo agree in a contract agreement (Non-Guaranteed). Melo will get $14K while in the Portland Roster. His contract will be fully guaranteed (Fully-Guaranteed) if he is not released after 7 January 2020.
Melo for sure will try his very best to prove his worth, he really wanted to play and to what I understand he also willing to adjust his level, He's willing to play even in a support cast and not the star caliber the way he was treated before. I'm also hoping that he's contract will continue and he bring good help for CJ and Dame. With his experienced he can add mental boost for Dame and CJ while trying to workout with blending the chemistry.

Not sure if Melo is the perfect player to give a boost to the team. Melo is an icon but he is the leader that does not easily gets along perfectly well with other players, not especially as just a simple team booster and not as a star player in court, which he still believe he is until now. 
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November 16, 2019, 01:38:58 AM

It will be a hard fought race for the MVP.
There is Kawhi, Lebron and the new crowd favorite Doncic.
Triple doubles or double double, these guys are game changers and Gianis might be on the last of the list.
It will depend also on their health. if possible 80 games should be played to take that trophy for season MVP.

I will vote for Doncic now. Give him some boost to be more confident and be the new face of the league.  Grin

Luca has the very big chance to become the youngest MVP, younger than D.Rose (MVP at age 22). Im voting half for Doncic, as he continued to be consistent by leading the Dallas Mavericks last season up to this season averaging almost a triple double at a very high level of basketball IQ.
While, I'm also voting half for LeBron. He's in his 17th season and were playing like the LeBron in 2013.

If Doncic wont get the MVP this year, I'm pretty sure next season he will.
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November 16, 2019, 01:19:31 AM
Now, Melo has the opportunity to silence all existing criticism. If he proves successful in Portland, then he can extend his career even longer. I'm really happy for Melo finally getting another shot. I believe he still got plenty left in his tank. Prove them wrong Melo!
I really like the idea of the Trailblazers getting Carmelo Anthony as their wingman. It's like this, whenever Portland is hitting playoffs they are playing like they need some extra help cause dame and mccollum are being doubled most of the time. And with another man getting some shots that is wide open, it's lights out. And besides, in Houston, taking a mid range is a sin. Here in Portland, they're allowed to do so.
I think the contract is good for the club and for players because Trailblazers and Carmelo agree in a contract agreement (Non-Guaranteed). Melo will get $14K while in the Portland Roster. His contract will be fully guaranteed (Fully-Guaranteed) if he is not released after 7 January 2020.
Melo for sure will try his very best to prove his worth, he really wanted to play and to what I understand he also willing to adjust his level, He's willing to play even in a support cast and not the star caliber the way he was treated before. I'm also hoping that he's contract will continue and he bring good help for CJ and Dame. With his experienced he can add mental boost for Dame and CJ while trying to workout with blending the chemistry.
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November 15, 2019, 11:38:19 PM
Now, Melo has the opportunity to silence all existing criticism. If he proves successful in Portland, then he can extend his career even longer. I'm really happy for Melo finally getting another shot. I believe he still got plenty left in his tank. Prove them wrong Melo!
I really like the idea of the Trailblazers getting Carmelo Anthony as their wingman. It's like this, whenever Portland is hitting playoffs they are playing like they need some extra help cause dame and mccollum are being doubled most of the time. And with another man getting some shots that is wide open, it's lights out. And besides, in Houston, taking a mid range is a sin. Here in Portland, they're allowed to do so.
I think the contract is good for the club and for players because Trailblazers and Carmelo agree in a contract agreement (Non-Guaranteed). Melo will get $14K while in the Portland Roster. His contract will be fully guaranteed (Fully-Guaranteed) if he is not released after 7 January 2020.
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November 15, 2019, 10:13:41 PM
I am again impressed with the performance that Antetokoumpo displayed in the game against Bulls.
38 points with 16 rebounds he is again the MVP for Buck this season for sure. If he keeps scoring like that he will be surely the MVP of regular season and why not this time in the play offs as well.

It will be a hard fought race for the MVP.
There is Kawhi, Lebron and the new crowd favorite Doncic.
Triple doubles or double double, these guys are game changers and Gianis might be on the last of the list.
It will depend also on their health. if possible 80 games should be played to take that trophy for season MVP.

I will vote for Doncic now. Give him some boost to be more confident and be the new face of the league.  Grin
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November 15, 2019, 09:17:47 PM
Agreed dude is a man among boys sometimes out on the court.  When he is playing it's easy to see he is pretty much the best one on the court almost every game.  I difinately think if everyone stays healthy the bucks come out of the east.  Now matched up against one of the west powerhouses, that will be a good finals.
If they will be healthy throughout the whole season then they will be a championship contender again but still, there are many strong teams in the East like the Raptors. Even they are short - handed right now, they are still a competitive team and the 76ers with a better line up right now and the Miami Heat which is a surprise to me.

If you compare the teams in the West this season and last season, we can see that they are a lot stronger right now. Lakers and Clippers became stronger right now. Another surprise team for me is the Phoenix Suns and the Jazz.
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November 15, 2019, 08:29:45 PM
NBA Rookie Power Rankings: Coby White gets serenaded at United Center, Ja Morant hits a game-winner

Some of the top picks in the 2019 draft are beginning to stand out while Kendrick Nunn continues his hot streak

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