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November 19, 2019, 01:53:50 AM
It’s Never Been Easier to Score 50 Points in the NBA

Four players have already dropped 50 or more in a game this season. Here’s why the frequency of half-hundred games won’t be slowing down.

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2019/11/18/20969957/damian-lillard-kyrie-irving-james-harden-dangelo-russell
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Winding down.
November 19, 2019, 12:54:18 AM
What a game for Luka as he got a triple double against the Spurs as they win 117-110. Luka got 42 pts, 11 reb and 12 ast.
I was monitoring his stats but I was not able to watch the game live, I might just check the highlights.
Clearly he has a great chance for winning the MVP this season, this kid makes basketball so easy.

Porzingis got a double double too with 18 & 10. If Luka can play like this throughout the whole season (not always triple double but good statistics), he can be a candidate for Kia MVP for sure.
Porzingis and Luka has to play like this in this season so they will have a slot in the playoffs.
A young team is an exciting team to watch, this is a good win for them as they just beat a good team like Spurs.

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November 19, 2019, 12:32:42 AM
What a game for Luka as he got a triple double against the Spurs as they win 117-110. Luka got 42 pts, 11 reb and 12 ast. Porzingis got a double double too with 18 & 10. If Luka can play like this throughout the whole season (not always triple double but good statistics), he can be a candidate for Kia MVP for sure.

The Nets lost to the Pacers with huge margin 115-86 and Irving has a shoulder injury right now. They are overhyped when they acquired Irving and KD and the expectations for them are too high but now they are 5-8. Its too early to say this but if they clinch the playoffs, I can say that they will be on the top 5-8 for me.
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November 18, 2019, 10:38:19 PM
Yeah that's right but maybe the odds of winning this game for OKC is really less but I'm talking about game changing effect since OKC has charisma when it comes to clutch time. Chris Paul still there, I know his bit old enough to handle Kawhi and PG but at least he can lead them to win. Remember experience still matters not just flexibility. Like Lebron can somehow influence his lakers team to push it.
You should take the Thunder if you are betting as it has been officially announce that Kawhi Leonard is not available for the 3rd straight, and people are excited to see them PG played to together but the management would not risk his injury, they will rest him because they don't need him yet, the clippers are winning and last game, they scored 150 points which tells us how offensive the team is.
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November 18, 2019, 10:31:39 PM
Gianis style is just almost the same, just more improvement and that kind of position will change.
Yeah, Dirk is a good example. Once you put effort and hard work to it, close to perfection can be achieved.
Dirk is not as athletic as Giannis but he has a good touch in his shooting, he is known for his fade away shots and his good 3 point shooting.
Let's see if Giannis will be able to improve his 3 point shooting and I think he has a lot of time doing that as most of their games, they won by dominance.
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November 18, 2019, 10:19:49 PM
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The way Giannis Antetokounmpo shoots the ball from the long distance, it looks like its not gonna get in, i mean he is not a natural shooter so even if they keep developing him but its not really good for him, then I think it is just a waste of time.

You can look at the form of his shooting, its awful.

No, it's not gonna be a waste of time. If Giannis will improve his shooting efficiency, he'll become even more of a beast. Big men who can shoot is hard to contest, if you remember Dirk. How much more for Giannis who is an explosive with that height. Shooting form doesn't really matter as long as the player is comfortable with how he shoots the ball. If you remember Shawn Marion, he had a very awful shooting form, but can knock down 3s.

And it is not just for that.
He can make hesitation moves once they see that he can shoot 3's.
More like a Lebron type but just taller and long arms.
Lebron's shooting position is still not that perfect but you could see he can also knock down some 3's.

Gianis style is just almost the same, just more improvement and that kind of position will change.
Yeah, Dirk is a good example. Once you put effort and hard work to it, close to perfection can be achieved.
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November 18, 2019, 09:24:04 PM
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The way Giannis Antetokounmpo shoots the ball from the long distance, it looks like its not gonna get in, i mean he is not a natural shooter so even if they keep developing him but its not really good for him, then I think it is just a waste of time.

You can look at the form of his shooting, its awful.

No, it's not gonna be a waste of time. If Giannis will improve his shooting efficiency, he'll become even more of a beast. Big men who can shoot is hard to contest, if you remember Dirk. How much more for Giannis who is an explosive with that height. Shooting form doesn't really matter as long as the player is comfortable with how he shoots the ball. If you remember Shawn Marion, he had a very awful shooting form, but can knock down 3s.

Giannis could definitely improve on his shooting ability but since that is not his kind of play from the very beginning, no way could he equal the shooting prowess of Dirk. That fade-away was one of a kind other big men cannot simply imitate. But Giannis can of course shoot better with practice. Shooting form does not count much for as long as that is the natural shooting form of the player himself. Shawn Marion is one example. But even if you take a look at the shooting of Stephen Curry, it is certainly not the best shooting form but very accurate.
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November 18, 2019, 09:17:23 PM
~snip~

The way Giannis Antetokounmpo shoots the ball from the long distance, it looks like its not gonna get in, i mean he is not a natural shooter so even if they keep developing him but its not really good for him, then I think it is just a waste of time.

You can look at the form of his shooting, its awful.

No, it's not gonna be a waste of time. If Giannis will improve his shooting efficiency, he'll become even more of a beast. Big men who can shoot is hard to contest, if you remember Dirk. How much more for Giannis who is an explosive with that height. Shooting form doesn't really matter as long as the player is comfortable with how he shoots the ball. If you remember Shawn Marion, he had a very awful shooting form, but can knock down 3s.
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November 18, 2019, 07:17:52 PM
Hi guys any thoughts on the upcoming match of La Clippers and Oklahoma City Thunders? OKC isn't that weak team but some betting contest give them huge plus on odds. Like our prediction group in our Local, OKC has a + 8.5 score points against Clippers.

I know somehow Clippers will triumph since their team has really have some advantage over OKC. Also, we dont know if Leonard will play on this match. I bet on OKC knowing this team can always caught up in a deadly match but not expecting to win on this game. How about you guys? Any thoughts about this?

I know that Kawhi Leonard is still questionable for this game but if you see the Clippers team overall with PG you know he can handle OKC. They won against Atlanta by 49 points and they themselves are not a bad team what more if Kawhi becomes available. Both of them playing together for LAC would be a disaster for Oklahoma even if they have a good defensive team. My bet is with the Clippers side even if Paul George would be the only one playing in their duo.

Yeah that's right but maybe the odds of winning this game for OKC is really less but I'm talking about game changing effect since OKC has charisma when it comes to clutch time. Chris Paul still there, I know his bit old enough to handle Kawhi and PG but at least he can lead them to win. Remember experience still matters not just flexibility. Like Lebron can somehow influence his lakers team to push it.
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November 18, 2019, 06:23:49 PM
I see some value in tonight's games with the Pacers winning at the ML, I like the Bulls to cover the spread as history shows that the Bulls play well against and the games have been close so the +8.5 for the Bulls to cover is good. I'm taking a small parlay with the Pacers ML, Bulls +8.5 and Rockets ML.

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maybe you if you have more good picks, that would help to those who are gambling in NBA, just like me.. this thread for me is more on NBA discussion, so let's post on the appropriate thread so everyone can relate. If you can also post your bet slip, that would be nice, it's more enticing.
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November 18, 2019, 06:14:44 PM
I see some value in tonight's games with the Pacers winning at the ML, I like the Bulls to cover the spread as history shows that the Bulls play well against and the games have been close so the +8.5 for the Bulls to cover is good. I'm taking a small parlay with the Pacers ML, Bulls +8.5 and Rockets ML.
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November 18, 2019, 05:59:04 PM
Sorry but I disagree with you mate, losing on others doesn't necessarily mean you and your team don't have the championship caliber team.
That's correct, but did you noticed that Giannis performance during the Raptors series is not that effective, I think the problem is not Giannis that time, its the coaching staff because they can't seem to find a strategy to help Giannis when he is trap by 2 to 3 defenders.

It's just so happened that other team (like Raptors) got better strategies for winning. Here's another example, look at the present situation of GSW, they are at the very bottom. So it's fair to conclude that they don't have the caliber of a true champion? Of course not! Cheesy

Can't compare the GSW now because they were playing undermanned, Bucks played the Raptors with a healthy and complete line up, warriors now loss Curry, Thompson, and even Russell was also injured, during the playoffs also, they loss Durant and Thompson.
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November 18, 2019, 05:41:04 PM
The Bucks is still an immature team compared to more veteran team, they will most likely choke during playoffs or even in a crucial matches. I think they will reach the finals only if they can acquire veteran players who can lead them during clutch times.
A little bit harsh but true anyways Grin. Actually, I still can't believe that Raptors able to beat them last year's conference and I know some of you might agree with me. Well, that's normal but I hope they are now growing further. For me, Bucks don't necessarily need veteran players, they can be veterans on their own instead.
After they loss against the Raptors, that's the time I was convince that they are not a championship caliber team.
Sorry but I disagree with you mate, losing on others doesn't necessarily mean you and your team don't have the championship caliber team. It's just so happened that other team (like Raptors) got better strategies for winning. Here's another example, look at the present situation of GSW, they are at the very bottom. So it's fair to conclude that they don't have the caliber of a true champion? Of course not! Cheesy
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November 18, 2019, 05:34:30 PM
Yes, that's what I'm trying to say, he can still goes to the rim as much as he want, but if he improve his 3's then it open up a lot of possibility for the Bucks. Similar to what Joel are doing in Philly if he is open in 3's he shoots it, and when they close up on him, he drives resulting in a easy and uncontested dunk.


The way Giannis Antetokounmpo shoots the ball from the long distance, it looks like its not gonna get in, i mean he is not a natural shooter so even if they keep developing him but its not really good for him, then I think it is just a waste of time.

You can look at the form of his shooting, its awful.
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November 18, 2019, 05:30:48 PM
And it's about time, many big men in the NBA today are shooting high percentage three's. 32% is not that bad, but if he can improved it his shot close to 40%, he will be a threat and that can lead to more offensive options for the Bucks.
He doesn't need to focus on the 3 point shooting, I think the staff should find more open shooters so they will become a big threat as a team.
The usual play that they are making is that Giannis will drive and if he is locked up, he will just throw the ball outside as that would create open shooters, if these open shooters are consistent enough,  they surely will make this strategy effective.

We are not saying that he will remove his drives to the basket. We just want him to improve. So far, 3 points shooting is his weakness and for me, the only skill left to complete his arsenal. A lot of offensive options will open up once his 3 points percentage goes up. Defense will crack open because they cannot leave him open for 3s like what is happening now.

Yes, that's what I'm trying to say, he can still goes to the rim as much as he want, but if he improve his 3's then it open up a lot of possibility for the Bucks. Similar to what Joel are doing in Philly if he is open in 3's he shoots it, and when they close up on him, he drives resulting in a easy and uncontested dunk.
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November 18, 2019, 05:28:07 PM
If giannis will shot the 3s, he won't be able to help in the rebound which is one of his strength and I don't want him to be more confident in 3 point shooting as he might be focusing on that more when he has no chance to drive which is not good IMO.
Grabbing rebounds is not his main job. They have Lopez to do that. And I am sure he has more opportunities to drive toward the basket when the defense has to guard him from the 3point line not just on the paint.


Obviously but he is now averaging a double-double in points and rebounds so that means he is good in rebounds.
What I am trying to emphasize is that when he is comfortable in shooting 3s he won't be able to help, its just a help because more big rebounding the ball would be able to help them get offensive rebounds.

I think Giannis has a better average in terms of rebounds compared to Lopez.

As of today, giannis average a total of 14.3 rebounds.
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November 18, 2019, 04:52:45 PM
Hi guys any thoughts on the upcoming match of La Clippers and Oklahoma City Thunders? OKC isn't that weak team but some betting contest give them huge plus on odds. Like our prediction group in our Local, OKC has a + 8.5 score points against Clippers.
Clippers' offense went up exponentially when PG started playing. He is just playing limited minutes but I think if PG scores the way he scores in his previous games, the Clippers will cover the spread.

agree, and would add that this pair is usually won by home team, eight times in last nine matches, and always without a doubt - 4+ difference at the end, Clippers are good this season, have just one lost match at home, with seven wins and it should be their win at the end, but +8.5 is a questionable
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I would have to pick the clips if I was betting this one, but the 8.5 scares me.  Team could be up 12 points and opposing team can make some last second shots at the end of the game to get it under 10.  If you can, tease the game down to like 6.5, that's what I would do with this game.
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November 18, 2019, 03:29:32 PM
Hi guys any thoughts on the upcoming match of La Clippers and Oklahoma City Thunders? OKC isn't that weak team but some betting contest give them huge plus on odds. Like our prediction group in our Local, OKC has a + 8.5 score points against Clippers.
Clippers' offense went up exponentially when PG started playing. He is just playing limited minutes but I think if PG scores the way he scores in his previous games, the Clippers will cover the spread.
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agree, and would add that this pair is usually won by home team, eight times in last nine matches, and always without a doubt - 4+ difference at the end, Clippers are good this season, have just one lost match at home, with seven wins and it should be their win at the end, but +8.5 is a questionable
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November 18, 2019, 03:14:47 PM
The Bucks is still an immature team compared to more veteran team, they will most likely choke during playoffs or even in a crucial matches. I think they will reach the finals only if they can acquire veteran players who can lead them during clutch times.
A little bit harsh but true anyways Grin. Actually, I still can't believe that Raptors able to beat them last year's conference and I know some of you might agree with me. Well, that's normal but I hope they are now growing further. For me, Bucks don't necessarily need veteran players, they can be veterans on their own instead.
I know most wont agree with me but these 2 team dominate the game when they want to
And I'm one of those people (peace yow Grin).Okay that's the spirit! But I wonder why Nuggets? What do you find special from them aside from Jokic? Smiley

Jokic is an all world player that most people dont yet consider in the very top tier of stars (even though his nba peers do), jamal murray is absolutely one of the better all around ball handler/creators/manager that knows how to get it done.  Throw in Harris and milsap and you have one of the best starting rotations in the league.  Their depth on bench runs 10 deep so they can absorb some injuries...and handle home court tremendously.  This coming from a knick fan, I temporarily root for them why my team goes through yet another shitty year.
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November 18, 2019, 01:41:07 PM
And it's about time, many big men in the NBA today are shooting high percentage three's. 32% is not that bad, but if he can improved it his shot close to 40%, he will be a threat and that can lead to more offensive options for the Bucks.
He doesn't need to focus on the 3 point shooting, I think the staff should find more open shooters so they will become a big threat as a team.
The usual play that they are making is that Giannis will drive and if he is locked up, he will just throw the ball outside as that would create open shooters, if these open shooters are consistent enough,  they surely will make this strategy effective.

We are not saying that he will remove his drives to the basket. We just want him to improve. So far, 3 points shooting is his weakness and for me, the only skill left to complete his arsenal. A lot of offensive options will open up once his 3 points percentage goes up. Defense will crack open because they cannot leave him open for 3s like what is happening now.

If giannis will shot the 3s, he won't be able to help in the rebound which is one of his strength and I don't want him to be more confident in 3 point shooting as he might be focusing on that more when he has no chance to drive which is not good IMO.
Grabbing rebounds is not his main job. They have Lopez to do that. And I am sure he has more opportunities to drive toward the basket when the defense has to guard him from the 3point line not just on the paint.

Hi guys any thoughts on the upcoming match of La Clippers and Oklahoma City Thunders? OKC isn't that weak team but some betting contest give them huge plus on odds. Like our prediction group in our Local, OKC has a + 8.5 score points against Clippers.
Clippers' offense went up exponentially when PG started playing. He is just playing limited minutes but I think if PG scores the way he scores in his previous games, the Clippers will cover the spread.
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