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August 02, 2019, 11:28:55 PM
Yeah but it aint the 80s anymore to get scared about contacts.
You can see how soft the NBA became and referees are getting used to it.
Calling fouls with acts and slight slaps or hand checks. Even a skinny guy can penetrate the paint now and wont hurt himself. Worse the defender will be the one who gets an injury.
There are teams who played good defense and their are teams who aren't, good way to explain is defense and offense oriented team.
Lin can penetrate but if you will put a bigger guy on him, he won't be able to have a good playing night as he is not as good as the real superstar.
This is just my personal view, I have love on this player as well during the Linsanity but as it goes longer, it makes me disappointed.

The Linsanity fever has long been dead. It is very obvious. In fact, even Jeremy Lin himself has taken noticed of how he is not given enough amount of playing time anymore. I think he interpreted it a mile more and thinks the team does not trust his game anymore. Aside from a little of jealousy that you can hear from other players particularly from someone saying there is nothing special with the man only that he is Asian, which is a terrible statement of course given his performance and stats before, his injuries made the situation even worse.   
His injuries are not so serious unlike the injury of Kobe and maybe some other players who really affected their usual play.
The only thing that Lin is needed is playing time, of course he can still play with more playing time but if the coach would not give you that, you can't do anything about it since they believe there are more players that are deserving.

There are some jealous players but that's normal in the world of business since it's a big competition on who will get that big payroll.
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August 02, 2019, 11:21:42 PM
Yeah but it aint the 80s anymore to get scared about contacts.
You can see how soft the NBA became and referees are getting used to it.
Calling fouls with acts and slight slaps or hand checks. Even a skinny guy can penetrate the paint now and wont hurt himself. Worse the defender will be the one who gets an injury.
There are teams who played good defense and their are teams who aren't, good way to explain is defense and offense oriented team.
Lin can penetrate but if you will put a bigger guy on him, he won't be able to have a good playing night as he is not as good as the real superstar.
This is just my personal view, I have love on this player as well during the Linsanity but as it goes longer, it makes me disappointed.

The Linsanity fever has long been dead. It is very obvious. In fact, even Jeremy Lin himself has taken noticed of how he is not given enough amount of playing time anymore. I think he interpreted it a mile more and thinks the team does not trust his game anymore. Aside from a little of jealousy that you can hear from other players particularly from someone saying there is nothing special with the man only that he is Asian, which is a terrible statement of course given his performance and stats before, his injuries made the situation even worse.   
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August 02, 2019, 10:48:48 PM
Yeah but it aint the 80s anymore to get scared about contacts.
You can see how soft the NBA became and referees are getting used to it.
Calling fouls with acts and slight slaps or hand checks. Even a skinny guy can penetrate the paint now and wont hurt himself. Worse the defender will be the one who gets an injury.
There are teams who played good defense and their are teams who aren't, good way to explain is defense and offense oriented team.
Lin can penetrate but if you will put a bigger guy on him, he won't be able to have a good playing night as he is not as good as the real superstar.
This is just my personal view, I have love on this player as well during the Linsanity but as it goes longer, it makes me disappointed.
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August 02, 2019, 07:36:07 PM

He should show it at Charlotte. Let us see if he can do more than what Kemba did.

Don't expect too much from Rozier, he is not a type of player who can lead a team to be in the playoffs, he is quick but he is small and I think IT is even better than him.

I am not expecting anything and that is why we will see in Charlotte if can prove everything that he says. Top point guard as he says it.

You cannot tell. He is a point guard. He doesnt need contact that much. He just needs speed and ability.
You have remember that Linsanity was born because Lin was the main man for offense and that leads his team in winning most of the games before the come back of Melo. When you are providing points, the defense is fully focus on you and you have to endure the physicality in order to generate points.

Yeah but it aint the 80s anymore to get scared about contacts.
You can see how soft the NBA became and referees are getting used to it.
Calling fouls with acts and slight slaps or hand checks. Even a skinny guy can penetrate the paint now and wont hurt himself. Worse the defender will be the one who gets an injury.
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August 02, 2019, 05:45:33 PM
So another NBA player has left the league and join another. Lance Stephenson will be joining the Chinese Basketball Association. The guy must have thought it's better to get paid more than chasing a NBA title and get paid less.

That's his decision. At the end of the day, he maximize his talent to earn because time will come that he will be dumped like a garbage when he's old. So make the most since he is at his prime. maybe CBA can give him more than what he earned in the NBA so it's a tough decision to make for him though.
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August 02, 2019, 09:47:59 AM
So another NBA player has left the league and join another. Lance Stephenson will be joining the Chinese Basketball Association. The guy must have thought it's better to get paid more than chasing a NBA title and get paid less.

This is the article https://www.slamonline.com/nba/lance-stephenson-agrees-to-4-million-deal-in-china/, right?
Good for him he made a decision to earn another experience outside the league, he is still young and after one year I think he will be able to come back in the NBA again because his type of play is very in demand in the NBA, it's just sad the only have limited minutes with the Lakers but when he was still with the Pacers, he really brings a lot of energy in the floor.
The man still have the skills and if he move to this new face of league for sure it will be a tough decision for him, he still have a good shape but
competitions really affects those players around the league, NBA is a full of hype if you can't show good interest from the management and the
fans is not calling for your name then you have to move and find your ways to compensated with the right price of your skills.
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August 02, 2019, 08:11:55 AM
I idolize much Jeremy Lin. He is also good when he was on Rockets before.
His states clearly says he played most of his games with the Rockets, he averages around 13 points per game during the 2 season he played.
ref :https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/l/linje01.html

But his stepping stone was the NYK.

He is one of the deadliest shooter in NBA. But I don't know why his career becomes dead also right now. If ever, he won't feel the championship for NBA, he should not give up. I know he can make it and I think GSW needs him now.
Not as deadly as Curry and Thompson.
His career is over because he only average 7 points with the Raptors and only played 23 games, and most of that games in the regular season only.
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August 02, 2019, 06:50:03 AM

Feel sad for Jeremy Lin. He really feels down that no one is showing interest for him. He literally cried while delivering a statement about NBA giving up on him in front of a large audience. Even coming out on a championship, Lin doesn't feel his championship ring since he thinks he didn't deserve it.

And that became the saddest part of NBA right now. You have a ring, but doesnt have a salary for a year? Worse, you love playing the game but no one is trying to give you minutes again to showcase your skills.

Just dont know why an explosive guy like Jeremy Lin will be benched like that.
He can do "no look" pass and shoot with a high percentage. Can also penetrate the paint. Just what the hell is the reason behind the sudden dip of this guy.

He is just 30 and they say his being "Linsanity" is over. Urgh!
I idolize much Jeremy Lin. He is also good when he was on Rockets before. He is one of the deadliest shooter in NBA. But I don't know why his career becomes dead also right now. If ever, he won't feel the championship for NBA, he should not give up. I know he can make it and I think GSW needs him now.
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August 02, 2019, 05:41:36 AM
So another NBA player has left the league and join another. Lance Stephenson will be joining the Chinese Basketball Association. The guy must have thought it's better to get paid more than chasing a NBA title and get paid less.

This is the article https://www.slamonline.com/nba/lance-stephenson-agrees-to-4-million-deal-in-china/, right?
Good for him he made a decision to earn another experience outside the league, he is still young and after one year I think he will be able to come back in the NBA again because his type of play is very in demand in the NBA, it's just sad the only have limited minutes with the Lakers but when he was still with the Pacers, he really brings a lot of energy in the floor.
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August 02, 2019, 05:32:33 AM
So another NBA player has left the league and join another. Lance Stephenson will be joining the Chinese Basketball Association. The guy must have thought it's better to get paid more than chasing a NBA title and get paid less.
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August 02, 2019, 05:12:06 AM
You cannot tell. He is a point guard. He doesnt need contact that much. He just needs speed and ability.
You have remember that Linsanity was born because Lin was the main man for offense and that leads his team in winning most of the games before the come back of Melo. When you are providing points, the defense is fully focus on you and you have to endure the physicality in order to generate points.
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August 02, 2019, 01:58:53 AM

He should show it at Charlotte. Let us see if he can do more than what Kemba did.

Don't expect too much from Rozier, he is not a type of player who can lead a team to be in the playoffs, he is quick but he is small and I think IT is even better than him.
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August 01, 2019, 11:16:36 PM
He just needs time, time, time,.... yes, playing time, a decent one.


He is not getting any younger, he is already 30 years old and I think that's one of the factors the management saw.
They gave him a lot of chance, and if they'll continue to give a chance, I guess that is not a wise decision when there are younger out there who are more hungry to show what they can do.

You cannot tell. He is a point guard. He doesnt need contact that much. He just needs speed and ability.

Look at how Steve Nash got better and better as he gets older.
Footwork is all he need just to avoid injuries. But still Jeremy Lin needs to do it now. As if there will no next year for him.
With a lot of good point guard out there, it will be a difficult competition and he needs to be on top.

Speaking of top. Recently, Terry Rozier was interviewed and I heard something like "He is one of the top pointguards in the league" I doubt that.
Looks like the fans cheering for him at his Celtics days when he was given playing time gets into his head.
It is full of air by now.

He should show it at Charlotte. Let us see if he can do more than what Kemba did.
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August 01, 2019, 06:36:33 PM
He just needs time, time, time,.... yes, playing time, a decent one.


He is not getting any younger, he is already 30 years old and I think that's one of the factors the management saw.
They gave him a lot of chance, and if they'll continue to give a chance, I guess that is not a wise decision when there are younger out there who are more hungry to show what they can do.
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August 01, 2019, 04:51:24 PM
I say Euro League. He might fit there.
Most of the NBA players go there for money.

Jeremy Lin turned down the offer of playing in Europe just recently.

He really likes to continue playing at NBA and will wait for any offer until zero chances. That's dedication. I'm now becoming a "new fan" of this guy.

The injury that breaks the Linsanity fever really affected him so much. Since he came back playing, he never had a chance to show that he can still become like that again. He just needs time, time, time,.... yes, playing time, a decent one.



Ok guys I just has this thought last night. I was watching Zion W. highlights in youtube and I was amazed by this kid, he was also a freak in nature. So this lead me to question the NBA fans here.

Which do you think is more gifted overall? The Greek Freak - Giannis or Zion who even though is too heavy at 285 lbs but can freely move around, jumps so high for a dunk and even a block and very very agile for his frame?

Too early to tell. And not making sense to compare who is the gifted overall honestly.

Giannis came from scratch to a monster. He goes through a hard and difficult process. On the other hand, Zion will come up in the league as a monster and we don't know if he will able to maintain it on a different nature.

I will give 3 seasons for Zion to proved he isn't an overrated guy.
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August 01, 2019, 04:00:10 PM
It's the team that did decreased his exposure and it's really sad on his part. But that's life including ones career.
The team manages the minutes of the players based on his contribution, he has limited minutes because he hasn't contributed well.
It's because they had bad impression already to his performance and that became their basis already though he can improve himself during the finals.

He was not recognize for that and I think he himself felt he didn't contribute for that championship.
People will recognized him as the Linsanity, and that will live forever especially for the Asians since there's only few Asians that made a name in the NBA.
Yeah, one popular guy is Yao Ming and he's the same race as he had. I don't want to think that he's discrediting himself with that championship.
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August 01, 2019, 01:50:39 PM
Worse, you love playing the game but no one is trying to give you minutes again to showcase your skills.

Just dont know why an explosive guy like Jeremy Lin will be benched like that.
He can do "no look" pass and shoot with a high percentage. Can also penetrate the paint. Just what the hell is the reason behind the sudden dip of this guy.

He is just 30 and they say his being "Linsanity" is over. Urgh!
Maybe you are not seeing what the coaches are seeing. Maybe he can shoot and make those fancy passes but there are so many aspects of the game that he may be lacking from the coaches point of view. It's also not like he's a unique or once in a lifetime player.
Reality in life that things are going to be changed once a new sets of superstars showed up, maybe he can still play but being an asset of the team there's already a lots of new kids that can do be better and still have more improvements that can be done.

Coaches see the potentials and management will keep the assets that will bring them more revenues.
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August 01, 2019, 12:56:45 PM
Don't do that. Fans wont cheer for him at his best if he aint unique.
He can explode for so many times just like how superstars do it and also have his off nights which superstars also have.
Still it doesnt make sense for me.
I will look deeper to what analysts would say about this.
He ain't unique mate. The last time I saw fans really cheering for him was during his Linsanity stint with the Knicks. He had a little break when Melo got injured and he took advantage of it which is good for him. After that, he wasn't able to elevate or adjust his game. NBA is a tough league where players fight for position, it's either you shape up or ship out. If your current form doesn't impress the coaches, then you're on your way out.


Which do you think is more gifted overall? The Greek Freak - Giannis or Zion
When you compare them now, It's the Greek Freak.
When you compare them when the freak entered the league, I'd say they're pretty much equal.


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August 01, 2019, 10:36:52 AM
Ok guys I just has this thought last night. I was watching Zion W. highlights in youtube and I was amazed by this kid, he was also a freak in nature. So this lead me to question the NBA fans here.

Which do you think is more gifted overall? The Greek Freak - Giannis or Zion who even though is too heavy at 285 lbs but can freely move around, jumps so high for a dunk and even a block and very very agile for his frame?

Zion have some moves. No doubt about that.
But, both are good in their own ways.
The length of Giannis gave him more oppotunity to touch the rim even if we think it is impossible.
Zion on the other hand have that strength and agility even with that kind of figure.

But if we will only choose one, I will still go for Giannis.
The room for improvement is way too large and he already have the perfect body.
While Zion will need a large amount of weight loss which in that country is not easy to do.
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