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July 05, 2019, 05:40:28 PM
I hate to ruin the fun of all warriors bandwagoners for the past 5 years but this is not the same as 2015 championship. That year you had Harrison Barnes on your small forward, who you gonna have this year? Quintin Cook? I don't think so, that year you had Draymond playing like the best defender on the face of the earth, he is older and much worse right now, that year you had Iggy that literally became the FMVP at the end of the season, you don't have him and he is also very old, Livingston is probably gone or even if he stayed then he is very old.

Basically, all you have is Curry+DLO+Injured Klay+Worse Dray and some bench scrubs. Warriors is not even a contender in my eye this season, they are not making headlines at all, they are not making the finals neither.

Draymond is just 29 years old. He is on his prime. It is the injuries which makes you think he is that old.  Grin

You are underestimating the power of Steph Curry. That is what happened to most of the team and that is why they lose against them.
I am not that hardcore fan by GSW but when I saw how Steph Curry changed the game of basketball into some shooting spree game.
Yeah, suddenly I became one of his fans.

They still have a roster with 4 superstars. Do not forget that.
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July 05, 2019, 05:36:08 PM
Still no news about Kawhi.

I read on some page that today is the day. We should be hearing his decision soon. Many are expecting him to join the Lakers but they did something that Kahwi might not like. With that said, I think he's not gonna wear that purple and gold.
What we can do right now is to wait till he announced his decision, there's still chances that he might join LeBron and Davis wearing the Lakers jersey, we never know but if he also consider what Raptor's offer to him it will be informed after his final say.

I don't think Raptors will let him go. I mean he did so well in the last NBA Finals, he is the MVP, with that fat check Raptors will use that to get Kawhi again and have a good run in the next season. I don't know how Lakers can afford those big players but they are really investing to get that next championship, I think Kawhi will not be joining LA.
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July 05, 2019, 05:22:51 PM
Still no news about Kawhi.

I read on some page that today is the day. We should be hearing his decision soon. Many are expecting him to join the Lakers but they did something that Kahwi might not like. With that said, I think he's not gonna wear that purple and gold.
The rumors are there though it's not yet official that he's about to stay with Raptors until 2020 though there's another rumor that he's going on Lakers.

https://www.ibtimes.com/nba-rumors-kawhi-leonard-could-stay-raptors-until-2020-2804493
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July 05, 2019, 04:35:25 PM
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The warriors are still a better team but not a super team anymore,
GSW is a super team because of their impressive teamwork. It is not just because of KD. Before KD, GSW is already a super team. KD is their cheat code.

this is the balance I like to see and the departure of Durant is a good sign that next season we will witness a good and competitive race going to the playoffs.

I am still waiting for one player to sign a contract before I can say that next season is a balanced competition. If Kawhi signed to Lakers, the superteam power will shift to Lakers. Kawhi needs to sign to another team before we can say that there is some balance.
Never heard any news as well, the latest is that Kawhi decision might be after the 4th of July. He probably just celebrating right now and after that the announcement. GSW will be Curry's team, with or without KD. But next season it will be very different, time for other team to shine, Lakers, Portland, Denver, Bucks and of course the defending champion Toronto.
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July 05, 2019, 01:37:16 PM
I hate to ruin the fun of all warriors bandwagoners for the past 5 years but this is not the same as 2015 championship. That year you had Harrison Barnes on your small forward, who you gonna have this year? Quintin Cook? I don't think so, that year you had Draymond playing like the best defender on the face of the earth, he is older and much worse right now, that year you had Iggy that literally became the FMVP at the end of the season, you don't have him and he is also very old, Livingston is probably gone or even if he stayed then he is very old.

Basically, all you have is Curry+DLO+Injured Klay+Worse Dray and some bench scrubs. Warriors is not even a contender in my eye this season, they are not making headlines at all, they are not making the finals neither.
Seems like we do have some decent hater GSW here! Grin

You got some point but you wouldnt know on how they would perform on next season specially now KD is gone.Everything gets old and all people do knows that
but they are still capable on making plays.Their prime might be over but doesnt mean they are scrubs.

On the other hand that Kawhi very very slow decision do really make my body itch.!
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July 05, 2019, 12:47:09 PM
I hate to ruin the fun of all warriors bandwagoners for the past 5 years but this is not the same as 2015 championship. That year you had Harrison Barnes on your small forward, who you gonna have this year? Quintin Cook? I don't think so, that year you had Draymond playing like the best defender on the face of the earth, he is older and much worse right now, that year you had Iggy that literally became the FMVP at the end of the season, you don't have him and he is also very old, Livingston is probably gone or even if he stayed then he is very old.

Basically, all you have is Curry+DLO+Injured Klay+Worse Dray and some bench scrubs. Warriors is not even a contender in my eye this season, they are not making headlines at all, they are not making the finals neither.
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July 05, 2019, 12:27:25 PM
Still no news about Kawhi.

I read on some page that today is the day. We should be hearing his decision soon. Many are expecting him to join the Lakers but they did something that Kahwi might not like. With that said, I think he's not gonna wear that purple and gold.
What we can do right now is to wait till he announced his decision, there's still chances that he might join LeBron and Davis wearing the Lakers jersey, we never know but if he also consider what Raptor's offer to him it will be informed after his final say.
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July 05, 2019, 12:26:41 PM
<...>
The warriors are still a better team but not a super team anymore,
GSW is a super team because of their impressive teamwork. It is not just because of KD. Before KD, GSW is already a super team. KD is their cheat code.

this is the balance I like to see and the departure of Durant is a good sign that next season we will witness a good and competitive race going to the playoffs.

I am still waiting for one player to sign a contract before I can say that next season is a balanced competition. If Kawhi signed to Lakers, the superteam power will shift to Lakers. Kawhi needs to sign to another team before we can say that there is some balance.
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July 05, 2019, 11:58:20 AM
Still no news about Kawhi.

I read on some page that today is the day. We should be hearing his decision soon. Many are expecting him to join the Lakers but they did something that Kahwi might not like. With that said, I think he's not gonna wear that purple and gold.
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July 05, 2019, 11:51:56 AM
Of course, before Russell showed quite good results and really was considered one of the most promising players, but today there is a lot of information that he himself confirms on the field, which suggests that his game practically buries all the future results of his team.
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July 05, 2019, 11:39:48 AM
Still no news about Kawhi.

On the contrary (sorta), the private jet that got him to Toronto yesterday to meet with the Raptors is now headed back to San Diego. Grin (source).

Lakers bound? News should break out within 2-3 hours from now.
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July 05, 2019, 11:15:40 AM


I hope Russel can fill that gap GS needs without KD.

Without KD, they are struggling to win since they lessen out of the players who can shoot the ball. In the past, those three, Steph, KD and Thompson is a threat to the opponent, without KD, that will be Steph and Thompson.

Why Russell should fill that gaps? I mean why hope and expect him to do that?

The young guy will surely contribute to the team no matter what but not to the point he must fill the gaps needs because KD is now gone to Warriors. KD and Russell have a different style and Russell just needs to slowly blend his gameplay on how Warriors play. Yes, chemistry is a must.

As I mentioned here, Russell will be on starting lineup and will take Klay Thompson's spot at the first phase of the season while the latter is still on the recovery period. That's the best time to showcase what he got. He needs to make some big adjustments as his role to Brooklyn Nets is really different once he played for the Warriors.

Correct.
What he really need by now is to absorb the chemistry that the GSW had. I dont think it is that hard. A lot of players came in and out to that team and they did pretty well.
I am more worried about the switches in defense.
Remember, offense always attack Steph Curry. He shouts on the floor for switches if he is on a mismatch. I guess Russell just need to know about that since offense will be easy for the team.
Defense still wins a championship.

Still no news about Kawhi.
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July 05, 2019, 05:36:43 AM

Warriors now lack offensive power because Kevin Durant was not into them anymore?  Sounds funny! They were able to reach the finals 2 consecutive times prior to Kevin Durant's arrival and others will say that Warriors is now done? Warriors still have their original drafts that made the team reach the top.

And why feel sad about that? Don't you want a balance and much of a close game challenge between two teams? Talented players should be spread out in different teams especially in the low-rank teams. I miss the old times where it's unpredictable who will reach the Finals.

I also think this is one of the reasons why Durant left. When they won 4-0 against Portland, lots of GSW fans says 'do we really need KD"? But KD keeps his cool and even went to the heights of playing and got injured again. I heard that Durant jersey will be retire though, as a appreciation and what he did to the Dubs nation. https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/warriors-announce-theyll-retire-kevin-durants-no-35-jersey-in-statement-thanking-him-for-his-time-with-the-team/
It's a good thing they are parting ways without any issue unlike when KD leaves OKC. Now, there are another contender for Finals in East. Let's see if KD can lift Brooklyn all the way to Eastern Finals because pretty sure Warriors still can do it without him. Now East became more unpredictable.
But isn't it KD can't play at least for the regular games because of his injury? So I don't know if they can manage it with Kyrie as their leader. I think there is more drama in the locker room though. But it was not evident or dramatic as compare to him leaving OKC specially Durant saying that he won't leave, but eventually left and join GSW.
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July 05, 2019, 05:00:37 AM

Warriors now lack offensive power because Kevin Durant was not into them anymore?  Sounds funny! They were able to reach the finals 2 consecutive times prior to Kevin Durant's arrival and others will say that Warriors is now done? Warriors still have their original drafts that made the team reach the top.

And why feel sad about that? Don't you want a balance and much of a close game challenge between two teams? Talented players should be spread out in different teams especially in the low-rank teams. I miss the old times where it's unpredictable who will reach the Finals.

I also think this is one of the reasons why Durant left. When they won 4-0 against Portland, lots of GSW fans says 'do we really need KD"? But KD keeps his cool and even went to the heights of playing and got injured again. I heard that Durant jersey will be retire though, as a appreciation and what he did to the Dubs nation. https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/warriors-announce-theyll-retire-kevin-durants-no-35-jersey-in-statement-thanking-him-for-his-time-with-the-team/
It's a good thing they are parting ways without any issue unlike when KD leaves OKC. Now, there are another contender for Finals in East. Let's see if KD can lift Brooklyn all the way to Eastern Finals because pretty sure Warriors still can do it without him. Now East became more unpredictable.
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July 05, 2019, 04:56:50 AM

Warriors now lack offensive power because Kevin Durant was not into them anymore?  Sounds funny! They were able to reach the finals 2 consecutive times prior to Kevin Durant's arrival and others will say that Warriors is now done? Warriors still have their original drafts that made the team reach the top.

And why feel sad about that? Don't you want a balance and much of a close game challenge between two teams? Talented players should be spread out in different teams especially in the low-rank teams. I miss the old times where it's unpredictable who will reach the Finals.

I also think this is one of the reasons why Durant left. When they won 4-0 against Portland, lots of GSW fans says 'do we really need KD"? But KD keeps his cool and even went to the heights of playing and got injured again. I heard that Durant jersey will be retire though, as a appreciation and what he did to the Dubs nation. https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/warriors-announce-theyll-retire-kevin-durants-no-35-jersey-in-statement-thanking-him-for-his-time-with-the-team/

I think it all started when Draymond Green tells they don't need Durant, when I heard that news before, I was like, Hey! Durant you should leave soon. 

A very interesting to watch - KD never got over the Draymond argument – Kendrick Perkins | The Jump
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July 05, 2019, 04:36:59 AM

Warriors now lack offensive power because Kevin Durant was not into them anymore?  Sounds funny! They were able to reach the finals 2 consecutive times prior to Kevin Durant's arrival and others will say that Warriors is now done? Warriors still have their original drafts that made the team reach the top.

And why feel sad about that? Don't you want a balance and much of a close game challenge between two teams? Talented players should be spread out in different teams especially in the low-rank teams. I miss the old times where it's unpredictable who will reach the Finals.

I also think this is one of the reasons why Durant left. When they won 4-0 against Portland, lots of GSW fans says 'do we really need KD"? But KD keeps his cool and even went to the heights of playing and got injured again. I heard that Durant jersey will be retire though, as a appreciation and what he did to the Dubs nation. https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/warriors-announce-theyll-retire-kevin-durants-no-35-jersey-in-statement-thanking-him-for-his-time-with-the-team/
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July 05, 2019, 04:11:45 AM
^^ The core team of Golden State is still intact, so I think they're still a force to reckon in the West. Maybe we can see the old Steph Curry who will lead the team again in the Finals.


I hope Russel can fill that gap GS needs without KD.

Without KD, they are struggling to win since they lessen out of the players who can shoot the ball. In the past, those three, Steph, KD and Thompson is a threat to the opponent, without KD, that will be Steph and Thompson. Steph is a great player, but not as good as KD in terms of defense and offense he can give. I just hope they can still do well. For Kobe's challenge, I hope Giannis can take that on without any pressure.
In terms of offense Russell can fill that up as he's also a good offensive type of a player, but in defense I guess that will be so tough to fill up as KD stand tall and have a good IQ in terms of stopping opponents attack and a big help with their rebounding stats., we all knew how big the slot that's being left both by KD and Iggy, but adjustment will happen for sure.

The Stars will need to fill each others lapses and the system should be fit to everyone, the Warriors always find ways lets wait and see how this team will show up this coming season without those Stars inside their lineup.



The warriors are still a better team but not a super team anymore, this is the balance I like to see and the departure of Durant is a good sign that next season we will witness a good and competitive race going to the playoffs.

Competitive? I don't think so.

There are teams that are now studded with good players, despite not being an all-star. LA Lakers has great players now with the addition of AD, they are now the favorite of the next season. Zion is also one of the new bloods that they are looking at now, but for now, I am still looking at Giannis.

We will find out by next season, we cannot conclude now since it has not stated yet, but this recent changes that happens, I really believe it's good for the NBA and games will be more competitive,  at least compared to last season.
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July 05, 2019, 02:01:48 AM
^^ The core team of Golden State is still intact, so I think they're still a force to reckon in the West. Maybe we can see the old Steph Curry who will lead the team again in the Finals.


I hope Russel can fill that gap GS needs without KD.

Without KD, they are struggling to win since they lessen out of the players who can shoot the ball. In the past, those three, Steph, KD and Thompson is a threat to the opponent, without KD, that will be Steph and Thompson. Steph is a great player, but not as good as KD in terms of defense and offense he can give. I just hope they can still do well. For Kobe's challenge, I hope Giannis can take that on without any pressure.
In terms of offense Russell can fill that up as he's also a good offensive type of a player, but in defense I guess that will be so tough to fill up as KD stand tall and have a good IQ in terms of stopping opponents attack and a big help with their rebounding stats., we all knew how big the slot that's being left both by KD and Iggy, but adjustment will happen for sure.

The Stars will need to fill each others lapses and the system should be fit to everyone, the Warriors always find ways lets wait and see how this team will show up this coming season without those Stars inside their lineup.



The warriors are still a better team but not a super team anymore, this is the balance I like to see and the departure of Durant is a good sign that next season we will witness a good and competitive race going to the playoffs.

Competitive? I don't think so.

There are teams that are now studded with good players, despite not being an all-star. LA Lakers has great players now with the addition of AD, they are now the favorite of the next season. Zion is also one of the new bloods that they are looking at now, but for now, I am still looking at Giannis.
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July 05, 2019, 12:46:42 AM

Warriors now lack offensive power because Kevin Durant was not into them anymore?  Sounds funny! They were able to reach the finals 2 consecutive times prior to Kevin Durant's arrival and others will say that Warriors is now done? Warriors still have their original drafts that made the team reach the top.

And why feel sad about that? Don't you want a balance and much of a close game challenge between two teams? Talented players should be spread out in different teams especially in the low-rank teams. I miss the old times where it's unpredictable who will reach the Finals.

I will agree with all you said here, stars should be spread in different teams so we will see a close game.
Let's admit it, if we are watching a game and the one team just completely dominated the other team, that's boring, right?
So this recent news of trades and new contract signing is just good for the NBA and the fans, without the fans, they will not be successful, so balance of teams will result to a balance of fans.
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July 05, 2019, 12:25:38 AM

Warriors now lack offensive power because Kevin Durant was not into them anymore?  Sounds funny! They were able to reach the finals 2 consecutive times prior to Kevin Durant's arrival and others will say that Warriors is now done? Warriors still have their original drafts that made the team reach the top.

And why feel sad about that? Don't you want a balance and much of a close game challenge between two teams? Talented players should be spread out in different teams especially in the low-rank teams. I miss the old times where it's unpredictable who will reach the Finals.
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