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Quote from: danherbias07 on January 12, 2025, 10:17:31 AM

Truly Nikola Jokic can be a great player when he has great players by his side. Take the year that they became a champions, KCP, Bruce Brown, Gordon, MPJ, and Murray were playing in their prime after the injury. Defense made their team much better and now it's different. Westbrook is a super energetic player who could become contagious to every player and I think Jokic was infected. They need that energy because they lost it after they became champions which I think is a normal thing.
The hunger to win one more time will lose and WB is super hungry which is why he will be their main key for his season to win again.

I think the reason why Nuggets failed to defend their title is because they trade away all their bench players that play an important role during their championship run. They didn’t even retain their same roster for a year rather they are confident enough with their starting 5 to perform the same without the need of reliable bench players.

MPJ choke same with Murray and KCP. They even use Braun as substitute for starter since their main line-up crumbling due to lack of veteran bench players that continue the tempo and create momentum for them when the game is bad.

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Quote from: bitgolden on January 12, 2025, 04:45:22 AM

Denver is already a great team, and they have what it takes to win all of this, so adding another player to a working system is of course going to make that player look better in some games. Take Westbrook out of that team, and put him into Wizards again, and you would see a much much worse Westbrook, because that team is bad, so in a bad team a player can't shine and ends up being worse, on a great team the player gets a lot better results.

Jokic isn't playing as well as he used to, not in the sense that he is getting bad stats or anything, but he isn't doing anything exceptional so far, not an MVP calibre season if you ask me, and then suddenly he puts on his boots and for like a five six game stretch he looks like the greatest player ever, he is volatile like bitcoin Cheesy

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Truly Nikola Jokic can be a great player when he has great players by his side. Take the year that they became a champions, KCP, Bruce Brown, Gordon, MPJ, and Murray were playing in their prime after the injury. Defense made their team much better and now it's different. Westbrook is a super energetic player who could become contagious to every player and I think Jokic was infected. They need that energy because they lost it after they became champions which I think is a normal thing.
The hunger to win one more time will lose and WB is super hungry which is why he will be their main key for his season to win again.

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Yeah, Butler is a fluke when he traded to Miami since he was given a spot light despite his skills as a superstar is not that reliable. I doubt that he can do the same thing once he was traded especially on teams that already have their own young superstar.

His best chance is to go on building team like Wizards or trade him to Pelicans with Zion Williamson since both of them are cancer on their respective team.

Why woukd butler at 35 years old want to go to the wizards who has zero shot at making a run anytime soon. Butler has a couple years left he wants to go to a contender. And vice versa why woukd a team like the wizards give up any draft capital or young talent to get someone like butler. Makes no sense for them, they are rebuilding.

I think somehow he is going to end up as the next dinosaur to join the Lakers honestly. Maybe Lebron will think he can control Butler and they along with Davis can lead them to another ring.

I do agree that he will not want to go somewhere that has 0 chance of a ring.

What possible trade piece asked by Miami is so heavy.

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Los Angeles Lakers Receive: Jimmy Butler

Miami Heat Receive: Rui Hachimura, Austin Reaves, Jarred Vanderbilt, Gabe Vincent

Don't know if they could able to let Austin Reaves go or even Hachimura since they are important players on their team. Also even if they make this trade to happen they might sacrifice their rotation and provably their second unit might become compromised and chances that they might still not get best result in this trade.

By the way you can ready here guys the article of possible trade scenario that might happen between Miami and Lakers here https://fadeawayworld.net/nba-trade-rumors/los-angeles-lakers/lakers-could-land-jimmy-butler-in-3-different-trade-scenarios-with-heat

There are other possible trade scenarios been discuss but I don't think Miami would like the No.2 and No.3 option.

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Denver is already a great team, and they have what it takes to win all of this, so adding another player to a working system is of course going to make that player look better in some games. Take Westbrook out of that team, and put him into Wizards again, and you would see a much much worse Westbrook, because that team is bad, so in a bad team a player can't shine and ends up being worse, on a great team the player gets a lot better results.

Jokic isn't playing as well as he used to, not in the sense that he is getting bad stats or anything, but he isn't doing anything exceptional so far, not an MVP calibre season if you ask me, and then suddenly he puts on his boots and for like a five six game stretch he looks like the greatest player ever, he is volatile like bitcoin Cheesy

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And, man, Randle, he seemed off, especially during their last play, which looked all messed up. That forced Edwards to take the final shot under pressure. Tough ending for the Wolves, but an exciting game overall.

I would say that the Grizzlies had a better defense on that one that's why it seems like it was a messed play.
As for Randle, I would also give it to Edwards despite having a bad night with only 4/13 shooting because he's their main guy. Nevertheless, it's a good road win for the Grizzlies and that improves them to 25-14 while the Timberwolves are now 20-18.

That’s possible, but with only a few seconds left, they should’ve immediately given the ball to the player who would take the last shot. In that sequence, they gave it to Randle, but he hesitated, so he passed it to Edwards, which resulted in a highly contested 3 point attempt.

Yeah, it looks like Randle doesn't want to shoot the ball, Lol, and so he decided to pass it to Edwards who happens to be well guarded. And I think it's bad set up play, I would rather Edwards received a ball thru multiple picks instead of him the one doing the passing. Perhaps they want to confuse Memphis as they know that Edwards will be guarded but that's how franchise players should be, they will have the ball in dying seconds to shoot, not just this play wherein the receiver hesitated and then pass the ball with no time to go.

We should also give credit to Ja Morant here, two difficult shots, one against Rudy Gobert and then against Edwards.

So good road win for Memphis as they snap the Wolves winning streak.

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And, man, Randle, he seemed off, especially during their last play, which looked all messed up. That forced Edwards to take the final shot under pressure. Tough ending for the Wolves, but an exciting game overall.

I would say that the Grizzlies had a better defense on that one that's why it seems like it was a messed play.
As for Randle, I would also give it to Edwards despite having a bad night with only 4/13 shooting because he's their main guy. Nevertheless, it's a good road win for the Grizzlies and that improves them to 25-14 while the Timberwolves are now 20-18.

That’s possible, but with only a few seconds left, they should’ve immediately given the ball to the player who would take the last shot. In that sequence, they gave it to Randle, but he hesitated, so he passed it to Edwards, which resulted in a highly contested 3 point attempt.

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Quote from: LGD2Business on January 11, 2025, 10:57:19 PM

Los Angeles fire is very sad, I hope it will end soon and they will recover. Today's games for the Lakers and Clippers have also been postponed.
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It's been days since it happened. Many houses are lost, and it seems like there's no stopping from it for now. I just hope that everybody is okay on LA. Burned houses and other things can be replaced, but lives aren't. I feel bad for some for the lost memories though.

Quote from: stadus on January 11, 2025, 10:58:51 PM

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And, man, Randle, he seemed off, especially during their last play, which looked all messed up. That forced Edwards to take the final shot under pressure. Tough ending for the Wolves, but an exciting game overall.

I would say that the Grizzlies had a better defense on that one that's why it seems like it was a messed play.
As for Randle, I would also give it to Edwards despite having a bad night with only 4/13 shooting because he's their main guy. Nevertheless, it's a good road win for the Grizzlies and that improves them to 25-14 while the Timberwolves are now 20-18.

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Ja Morant for the win! That slightly acrobatic shot gave them the lead and sealed the victory. I was starting to feel a bit down when the Wolves went on a run, but thankfully, Memphis bounced back to tie the game and eventually take the lead. It was such a good game as it felt like a playoff matchup.

And, man, Randle, he seemed off, especially during their last play, which looked all messed up. That forced Edwards to take the final shot under pressure. Tough ending for the Wolves, but an exciting game overall.

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Los Angeles fire is very sad, I hope it will end soon and they will recover. Today's games for the Lakers and Clippers have also been postponed.

The game between the Grizzlies and Timberwolves was very exciting. You didn't know who was going to win until the last ball. Morant's basket gave the Grizzlies the lead and on the last possession, the Timberwolves got the ball to Edwards late and he tried a difficult three-pointer that didn't go in. The Grizzlies thus won the game.
Morant scored the game winner even though he threw bricks all game long. Grin

Jaren Jackson Jr. was the star of the game with 33 points. Donte DiVincenzo had a season high 27 points for the Timberwolves. It was a bad game for Edwards, other players kept the Wolves alive, but it wasn't enough to win.

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Actually, His prime is not that explosive especially his consistency during playoffs which always on/off on crucial games. The previous roster of Miami that highlighted his career is due to well-balanced roster that they have including the bench.

But I doubt he can carry a team solely like the typical star player like Lebron in prime, Luka, Kawhi and so on.

Miami will be happy to trade him to get another promising roster for their future team since they have the best coach.

Yeah, Butler is a fluke when he traded to Miami since he was given a spot light despite his skills as a superstar is not that reliable. I doubt that he can do the same thing once he was traded especially on teams that already have their own young superstar.

His best chance is to go on building team like Wizards or trade him to Pelicans with Zion Williamson since both of them are cancer on their respective team.

Why woukd butler at 35 years old want to go to the wizards who has zero shot at making a run anytime soon. Butler has a couple years left he wants to go to a contender. And vice versa why woukd a team like the wizards give up any draft capital or young talent to get someone like butler. Makes no sense for them, they are rebuilding.

I think somehow he is going to end up as the next dinosaur to join the Lakers honestly. Maybe Lebron will think he can control Butler and they along with Davis can lead them to another ring.

I do agree that he will not want to go somewhere that has 0 chance of a ring.

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Actually, His prime is not that explosive especially his consistency during playoffs which always on/off on crucial games. The previous roster of Miami that highlighted his career is due to well-balanced roster that they have including the bench.

But I doubt he can carry a team solely like the typical star player like Lebron in prime, Luka, Kawhi and so on.

Miami will be happy to trade him to get another promising roster for their future team since they have the best coach.

Yeah, Butler is a fluke when he traded to Miami since he was given a spot light despite his skills as a superstar is not that reliable. I doubt that he can do the same thing once he was traded especially on teams that already have their own young superstar.

His best chance is to go on building team like Wizards or trade him to Pelicans with Zion Williamson since both of them are cancer on their respective team.

I think it's better for him to join a team that doesn't have superstar, or at least a franchise player so that he can act one. He had with teams that had superstar and it didn't turn out good for him and he decided to left them, like when he is in the Sixers and it seems that he doesn't have a good relationship with Joel Embiid.

So not sure if he will have a good one with the Suns with Durant and specially Booker. Both of this players are also superstar and does want to have the ball on the last seconds of the game. So which one is going to take it if Butler goes to Phoenix? Is he willing to be the second stringer or just behind Booker and Durant?

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That was an impressive performance by Westbrook - it looks like he’s back in his prime. The Nuggets made an excellent move signing him, especially on such a budget-friendly contract for someone playing like a superstar. The Nuggets are even better this season with so many options, and it seems like Westbrook will be getting more minutes. I mean, pulling off a triple-double like that isn’t just a one-time thing for him. His presence is boosting the team’s confidence, and it shows on the court. ( Nuggets is a very interesting to watch this season).

It is unlikely that Westbrook will ever be able to return to his prime. However, watching his performances this regular season, I think it's correct to say that the Nuggets are the right team for him at this stage of his career. I mean, it's good to see that in some of his performances, he really resembles that old Westbrook in his prime, rather than Westbrick we saw in a Lakers uniform.

He will never reach a perfect performance as in his prime era, he was a really high level player. But still, his current performance looks very good, after the decline in the past years, he has become really good. He has written his name to the list of legends again, while during the Lakers era, everyone was making fun of him.
The few seasons in between were like a lost year for him Cheesy

Yes, he can't bring back the time here, but at least we can see that he can play and show signs of his old self, the Westbrook that we fell in love with his aggressiveness and explosive performance like every night, specially during his OKC days. And with the Nuggets, fans are very happy to watch him have that kind of numbers and with another MVP on his side. I truly admire what the Nuggets did to Westbrook and its' obvious that other teams was not able to do that.

And we would not forget his playing days with the Lakers, that's why he become the "Westbrick", hehehe. Let's see how far the Nuggets will go in this season, he was a good addition and it seems like he is the secret weapon of this team.

For the case of Jimmy Butler, it will be a disaster for him if he was traded to the Wizards just because Pat Riley wanted to f**k him off. And it's true, he doesn't have the control here, it was still Miami, if they are not happy on what package they are getting from Phoenix, they might as well send him to a low team.

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Actually, His prime is not that explosive especially his consistency during playoffs which always on/off on crucial games. The previous roster of Miami that highlighted his career is due to well-balanced roster that they have including the bench.

But I doubt he can carry a team solely like the typical star player like Lebron in prime, Luka, Kawhi and so on.

Miami will be happy to trade him to get another promising roster for their future team since they have the best coach.

Yeah, Butler is a fluke when he traded to Miami since he was given a spot light despite his skills as a superstar is not that reliable. I doubt that he can do the same thing once he was traded especially on teams that already have their own young superstar.

His best chance is to go on building team like Wizards or trade him to Pelicans with Zion Williamson since both of them are cancer on their respective team.

Why woukd butler at 35 years old want to go to the wizards who has zero shot at making a run anytime soon. Butler has a couple years left he wants to go to a contender. And vice versa why woukd a team like the wizards give up any draft capital or young talent to get someone like butler. Makes no sense for them, they are rebuilding.

I could see Pat Riley sending Jimmy Butler to the Wizards for nothing just to spite him. I'm not familiar with Jimmy's contract but I sort of get the feeling he isn't in control of his destiny here. The word on the street is that Jimmy wants to be in Phoenix and it looks like the Suns are going to trade Beal to the Lakers to try and make a trade with the Heat work, but we'll have to see if there's any truth to that. I personally am not a huge fan of Jimmy Butler, but I'd love to see LeBron get some more help in Bradley Beal and I'd also like to see the Suns get better. I don't really care about the Heat at all.

Im not a huge fan either. His "playoff jimmy" is a little overdone. He is consistent but not the guy he is made out to be. Id be surprised if riley did that to jimmy. He is respected in the league and honestly probably would give free agents some hesitency going there knowing they might get dropped off to that type of situation. Either way it'd be dumb on the wizards part to give up any picks. They are basically a guaranteed lottery team for awhile. They are at the beginning of a rebuild and giving away those picks would stunt anything they possibly could do. Jimmy is 35 which starts the huge falloff for nba players (unless you are bron)

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Actually, His prime is not that explosive especially his consistency during playoffs which always on/off on crucial games. The previous roster of Miami that highlighted his career is due to well-balanced roster that they have including the bench.

But I doubt he can carry a team solely like the typical star player like Lebron in prime, Luka, Kawhi and so on.

Miami will be happy to trade him to get another promising roster for their future team since they have the best coach.

Yeah, Butler is a fluke when he traded to Miami since he was given a spot light despite his skills as a superstar is not that reliable. I doubt that he can do the same thing once he was traded especially on teams that already have their own young superstar.

His best chance is to go on building team like Wizards or trade him to Pelicans with Zion Williamson since both of them are cancer on their respective team.

Why woukd butler at 35 years old want to go to the wizards who has zero shot at making a run anytime soon. Butler has a couple years left he wants to go to a contender. And vice versa why woukd a team like the wizards give up any draft capital or young talent to get someone like butler. Makes no sense for them, they are rebuilding.

I could see Pat Riley sending Jimmy Butler to the Wizards for nothing just to spite him. I'm not familiar with Jimmy's contract but I sort of get the feeling he isn't in control of his destiny here. The word on the street is that Jimmy wants to be in Phoenix and it looks like the Suns are going to trade Beal to the Lakers to try and make a trade with the Heat work, but we'll have to see if there's any truth to that. I personally am not a huge fan of Jimmy Butler, but I'd love to see LeBron get some more help in Bradley Beal and I'd also like to see the Suns get better. I don't really care about the Heat at all.

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That was an impressive performance by Westbrook - it looks like he’s back in his prime. The Nuggets made an excellent move signing him, especially on such a budget-friendly contract for someone playing like a superstar. The Nuggets are even better this season with so many options, and it seems like Westbrook will be getting more minutes. I mean, pulling off a triple-double like that isn’t just a one-time thing for him. His presence is boosting the team’s confidence, and it shows on the court. ( Nuggets is a very interesting to watch this season).

It is unlikely that Westbrook will ever be able to return to his prime. However, watching his performances this regular season, I think it's correct to say that the Nuggets are the right team for him at this stage of his career. I mean, it's good to see that in some of his performances, he really resembles that old Westbrook in his prime, rather than Westbrick we saw in a Lakers uniform.

He will never reach a perfect performance as in his prime era, he was a really high level player. But still, his current performance looks very good, after the decline in the past years, he has become really good. He has written his name to the list of legends again, while during the Lakers era, everyone was making fun of him.
The few seasons in between were like a lost year for him Cheesy

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Actually, His prime is not that explosive especially his consistency during playoffs which always on/off on crucial games. The previous roster of Miami that highlighted his career is due to well-balanced roster that they have including the bench.

But I doubt he can carry a team solely like the typical star player like Lebron in prime, Luka, Kawhi and so on.

Miami will be happy to trade him to get another promising roster for their future team since they have the best coach.

Yeah, Butler is a fluke when he traded to Miami since he was given a spot light despite his skills as a superstar is not that reliable. I doubt that he can do the same thing once he was traded especially on teams that already have their own young superstar.

His best chance is to go on building team like Wizards or trade him to Pelicans with Zion Williamson since both of them are cancer on their respective team.

Why woukd butler at 35 years old want to go to the wizards who has zero shot at making a run anytime soon. Butler has a couple years left he wants to go to a contender. And vice versa why woukd a team like the wizards give up any draft capital or young talent to get someone like butler. Makes no sense for them, they are rebuilding.

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though it's a tough call for KD and with the coaching staff they need to work hard to get the best version of Butler to help the team.

Butler is still in his prime, so we can say he is still at his best version. Maybe they should look for a happier version of Butler, because if he’s not happy, it means there’s no chemistry in the team. And no matter how many superstars they have, it won’t work without chemistry. Just look at OKC - they don’t have a lot of superstars, but they’re playing like an unbeatable team because they have that solid chemistry.

I'm not sure if he is his prime as Butler is already 35 years old. And the first sign that a player is deteriorating is that if he has suffered injuries. In any case, let's see how Butler or where Butler goes, if he goes to Phoenix then good for him as he likes to play with KD or it is one destination that he wants to go. But the teams that are going to get him should understand the downside, like his age, and then his history of injuries.

If I'm not mistaken, Butler might come back in January 17, so if this trade didn't materialized, maybe he will still suited up for the Heat whoever they played.

They said though that they want to trade him before the trade deadline of February 6, so let's wait as this drama is one of the most followed news by fans around the world.

It's a risk for whoever will take him for this possible trade, I agree with what you mentioned both his age and those injuries that he suffered things that the new taker needs to consider, though if ever that the trade will materialize and he really thinks that he's fit tho the system of his new team, Butler is a additional threat knowing his capabilities.

The good catch for Butler, he can adjust and he can play both defense and offense just need to fit himself to the system.

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Quote from: dwyane36 on January 11, 2025, 06:29:47 AM

Quote from: Maslate on January 11, 2025, 03:18:24 AM

That was an impressive performance by Westbrook - it looks like he’s back in his prime. The Nuggets made an excellent move signing him, especially on such a budget-friendly contract for someone playing like a superstar. The Nuggets are even better this season with so many options, and it seems like Westbrook will be getting more minutes. I mean, pulling off a triple-double like that isn’t just a one-time thing for him. His presence is boosting the team’s confidence, and it shows on the court. ( Nuggets is a very interesting to watch this season).

It is unlikely that Westbrook will ever be able to return to his prime. However, watching his performances this regular season, I think it's correct to say that the Nuggets are the right team for him at this stage of his career. I mean, it's good to see that in some of his performances, he really resembles that old Westbrook in his prime, rather than Westbrick we saw in a Lakers uniform.

Its understandable that Westbrook will be not in the same old form, but what's good about the situation happening right now with Nuggets is they really help Westbrook to gather back his confidence and bring some good impact with his team.

We see him enjoying each game they played and bringing up some good contribution that help their team a lot. We didn't see this one on his past teams that's why we can really say that Nuggets system is good since aside from giving their trust they also make sure that he can easily adapt with their system. Lakers are focus to much on Lebron and it lower down the confidence of their player that's why we see them struggling.

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Quote from: dwyane36 on January 11, 2025, 06:29:47 AM

Quote from: Maslate on January 11, 2025, 03:18:24 AM

That was an impressive performance by Westbrook - it looks like he’s back in his prime. The Nuggets made an excellent move signing him, especially on such a budget-friendly contract for someone playing like a superstar. The Nuggets are even better this season with so many options, and it seems like Westbrook will be getting more minutes. I mean, pulling off a triple-double like that isn’t just a one-time thing for him. His presence is boosting the team’s confidence, and it shows on the court. ( Nuggets is a very interesting to watch this season).

It is unlikely that Westbrook will ever be able to return to his prime. However, watching his performances this regular season, I think it's correct to say that the Nuggets are the right team for him at this stage of his career. I mean, it's good to see that in some of his performances, he really resembles that old Westbrook in his prime, rather than Westbrick we saw in a Lakers uniform.

There’s age factor makes this come back to prime almost impossible to happened to NBA player especially if the team you join has their own superstar that gets a lot of ball time compared to this old star that already shown a decrease on performance for many season.

Westbrook decision to accept the reality that he is not a superstar material anymore makes him adjust and adapt to the current team that he joins. I think he already learned his lesson on his time with Lakers.

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Quote from: Maslate on January 11, 2025, 03:18:24 AM

That was an impressive performance by Westbrook - it looks like he’s back in his prime. The Nuggets made an excellent move signing him, especially on such a budget-friendly contract for someone playing like a superstar. The Nuggets are even better this season with so many options, and it seems like Westbrook will be getting more minutes. I mean, pulling off a triple-double like that isn’t just a one-time thing for him. His presence is boosting the team’s confidence, and it shows on the court. ( Nuggets is a very interesting to watch this season).

It is unlikely that Westbrook will ever be able to return to his prime. However, watching his performances this regular season, I think it's correct to say that the Nuggets are the right team for him at this stage of his career. I mean, it's good to see that in some of his performances, he really resembles that old Westbrook in his prime, rather than Westbrick we saw in a Lakers uniform.

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