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Quote from: OgNasty on November 30, 2024, 05:25:10 PM

I can’t believe the Philadelphia 76ers are 3-14 to start the season. I didn’t expect the Paul George and Joel Embiid pairing to do well, but I had no idea it would result in such a terrible record. The owners have to be pretty upset at all the money they just spent to be in last place. Likely to suffer another embarrassing loss to the Pistons today.

It's a bit dispointing seeing Paul George only been playing like he’s only at 50% of what he’s capable of compared to his time with the Clippers, averaging just 14.9 points so far this season. And man, the absence of Embiid has really hurt them. They’re in a tough spot right now. We were expecting them to improve this season, but so far, they’re looking more like a bad team. But let's not conclude yet as it’s still early, and I think there’s time for them to bounce back and get consistent. I just hope they don’t mess it up and still make it to the playoffs this season despite the mess they’re in right now.

Lots of hype on Sixers when they acquired Paul but looks like everything is on mess especially that Embiid is not available around. Although they win against Piston but I guess this is will not tell that they are having a great campaign this season.

They are still second at the lowest in ranking this season which is pretty bad for them. Its like we would see a never ending rebuilding process for this team since even if they get those big stars in their team the result seems always goes bad for them. It seems there chance to bounce back is so low, but lets see if Embiid goes back again in the roster also and his teammate will perform well in their future games.

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Quote from: OgNasty on November 30, 2024, 05:25:10 PM

I can’t believe the Philadelphia 76ers are 3-14 to start the season. I didn’t expect the Paul George and Joel Embiid pairing to do well, but I had no idea it would result in such a terrible record. The owners have to be pretty upset at all the money they just spent to be in last place. Likely to suffer another embarrassing loss to the Pistons today.

It's a bit dispointing seeing Paul George only been playing like he’s only at 50% of what he’s capable of compared to his time with the Clippers, averaging just 14.9 points so far this season. And man, the absence of Embiid has really hurt them. They’re in a tough spot right now. We were expecting them to improve this season, but so far, they’re looking more like a bad team. But let's not conclude yet as it’s still early, and I think there’s time for them to bounce back and get consistent. I just hope they don’t mess it up and still make it to the playoffs this season despite the mess they’re in right now.

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Quote from: OgNasty on November 30, 2024, 05:25:10 PM

I can’t believe the Philadelphia 76ers are 3-14 to start the season. I didn’t expect the Paul George and Joel Embiid pairing to do well, but I had no idea it would result in such a terrible record. The owners have to be pretty upset at all the money they just spent to be in last place. Likely to suffer another embarrassing loss to the Pistons today.

They are really bad this year, the team's roster is not that bad actually but there is something missing in the team and they can't win games. Joell Embiid is not a player who can play well in every game, his statistics are not very good this year. We haven't seen him on the field in the last games anyway. If he can't contribute more than 30 points to the score, they don't have much chance of winning the game. They managed to win the game against Detroit, it was their 4th win this year

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Quote from: Velvet78 on November 30, 2024, 08:49:13 AM

I didn't see it coming... Houston Rockets are really cooking this season! Grin

So far they have been really determined to play for the lead in the Western Conference. Being at the 2nd position is really impressive considering how bad they were in the past. There are still so many more games to play maybe but I admire their passion for direct qualification for 1/8-finals. I hope they make it.

Alperen Şengün is also giving his best. He is one of the most valuable players for Rockets. I would love to see him being more successful with his current team.

Truly, that team is one hell of a scary bunch. Alperen Şengün has been a good facilitator for the team and Jalen Green is using his youth to be a damn good player. Somehow, I see Ja Morant in him during his younger days although Ja is not old yet. Grin

But tomorrow, they will be tested by the top team of the Western Conference, the OKC Thunder. If they win that match, I bet they can also reach the top of the West and keep it that way. They will be tied with 15 wins, although the Rockets have more losses, so they will still be in the second spot. However, defeating the Thunder will be a big boost to their confidence.

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Quote from: OgNasty on November 30, 2024, 05:25:10 PM

I can’t believe the Philadelphia 76ers are 3-14 to start the season. I didn’t expect the Paul George and Joel Embiid pairing to do well, but I had no idea it would result in such a terrible record. The owners have to be pretty upset at all the money they just spent to be in last place. Likely to suffer another embarrassing loss to the Pistons today.

I don't wanna say it but ..... I love it. This team is a disgrace. All that talent but so much mismanagement and all the trouble surrounding the main clown Embiid, awful to watch them falling apart. Going basically allin on a 34 year old player, paying him 211 million for 4 years is just something else. Giving his injury history this was a big gamble and they lost it. Now their 2 main guys always often injuries and one of them, even though being only 30 years old, doesn't want to play in back to backs. Roll Eyes

Front office should act quick I think.

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I can’t believe the Philadelphia 76ers are 3-14 to start the season. I didn’t expect the Paul George and Joel Embiid pairing to do well, but I had no idea it would result in such a terrible record. The owners have to be pretty upset at all the money they just spent to be in last place. Likely to suffer another embarrassing loss to the Pistons today.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on November 30, 2024, 08:49:13 AM

I didn't see it coming... Houston Rockets are really cooking this season! Grin

So far they have been really determined to play for the lead in the Western Conference. Being at the 2nd position is really impressive considering how bad they were in the past. There are still so many more games to play maybe but I admire their passion for direct qualification for 1/8-finals. I hope they make it.

Alperen Şengün is also giving his best. He is one of the most valuable players for Rockets. I would love to see him being more successful with his current team.

Yeah, Alperen Şengün is really doing great with the Rockets, I mean he had mature enough for this season.
Same with Jalen Green, he was touted when he enter the league, although he didn't win the rookie of the year, but he has a lot of potential and so he has a good break out year. Some with Brooks, and we will forget about Fred VF with his huge contract with the rockets.
So everything is falling into pieces for them, but it's a long season and we don't know if they can keep up with this momentum.

In terms of starters they can cope up with other teams and as they keep playing together we do see improvements though still a long season with lots of games to play, but the chance is decent for them to move forward, their current position is good earning the top 2 spot and with the way they executing their system showing that they've got a good blend playing together.

Just need to play asit is without getting any serious injuries, if they can maintain their competitiveness then advancing to the next round is not by far.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on November 30, 2024, 08:49:13 AM

I didn't see it coming... Houston Rockets are really cooking this season! Grin

So far they have been really determined to play for the lead in the Western Conference. Being at the 2nd position is really impressive considering how bad they were in the past. There are still so many more games to play maybe but I admire their passion for direct qualification for 1/8-finals. I hope they make it.

Alperen Şengün is also giving his best. He is one of the most valuable players for Rockets. I would love to see him being more successful with his current team.

Yeah, Alperen Şengün is really doing great with the Rockets, I mean he had mature enough for this season.
Same with Jalen Green, he was touted when he enter the league, although he didn't win the rookie of the year, but he has a lot of potential and so he has a good break out year. Some with Brooks, and we will forget about Fred VF with his huge contract with the rockets.
So everything is falling into pieces for them, but it's a long season and we don't know if they can keep up with this momentum.

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I didn't see it coming... Houston Rockets are really cooking this season! Grin

So far they have been really determined to play for the lead in the Western Conference. Being at the 2nd position is really impressive considering how bad they were in the past. There are still so many more games to play maybe but I admire their passion for direct qualification for 1/8-finals. I hope they make it.

Alperen Şengün is also giving his best. He is one of the most valuable players for Rockets. I would love to see him being more successful with his current team.

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About the Washington Wizards, I remember a player who said he was thankful he was out of that team.
I found it.
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/davis-bertans-says-players-on-wizards-were-fighting-with-each-other-over-minutes-roles-every-single-day/
Davis Bertans says players on Wizards were fighting with each other over minutes, roles 'every single day
Even until now, you don't see a team play in that roster. They are all trying to be the star of the team and maybe just expecting a good contract in their next team when they fill their stats. Actually, Poole might be the perfect player for this kind of team.

I can see shades of the Spurs in this team last season. Before CP3 arrived, the team seemed like everyone was trying to outshine each other. But then a true leader came in, improved their chemistry, and turned things around, now the Spurs are playing with great teamwork.

I think what this team is lacking is a veteran player with a coach-like mentality to guide them. Without that, it feels like they’re bound to tank again this season, especially with this kind of situation happening within the team.

Oh yeah. I would not dismiss the San Antonio Spurs yet. They may be on the 10th spot but they won 6 of their last 10 games which means they are not that weak. The only problem is, that the West at this time is filled with great players. The Thunder have SGA, the Rockets have a very strong core and bench, and the Mavs have, but don't even ask. Cheesy

If the Spurs are in the East, they might even be in the top 5 of it but they are not so they will have to keep their roster get stronger. Wemby and CP3 will not be enough, even though they have the greatest coach in the NBA, it will still not be enough. They need more roleplayers, surround Wemby with good passers and playmakers and I bet Spurs will be back on their position just like the old days.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on November 29, 2024, 08:56:02 PM

As for Poole, the Warriors could've been, but I don't think that the Warriors want him to stay especially after that beef with Green. It's like a slap to the face for Draymond Green if they will let him stay that's why he traded him. The Warriors are in a better position now though even without Poole.

I believe when there’s a problem within the team, they have to decide who to let go, and it’s impossible they’d part ways with Draymond Green, who is crucial to the Warriors. we’ve seen how the team struggles to move the ball effectively when Draymond isn’t on the court, so even though he doesn’t score much, Draymond is the second most important player for the Warriors, right after Curry.

As for Poole, he could’ve humbled himself. He’s still young, and the Warriors developed him into the player he is today. Knowing Draymond’s personality, Poole should’ve been the one to adjust. It might’ve helped avoid all the drama and kept the team chemistry intact.

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Quote from: dezoel on November 29, 2024, 03:44:32 PM

Wizards was always mismanaged, for years, decades even. Remember the whole Michael Jordan situation? He was part owner of the team and he decided to both make the team better but also give them a chance, and increase the value of the team a lot by going back in and playing, he played two seasons if I am not wrong and the owners just didn't do anything and didn't improve the team like they promised. This made MJ mad and he sold his rights in the team and went ahead and bought Charlotte, which turns out wasn't really that fair considering MJ never made a good team out of them neither, he owns a team that sucks so maybe he is a bit responsible too.

However, at the end of the day we are seeing how Wizards has been mismanaged for decades, even back then, and there were changes since, but they are still doing badly. A proper team would never allow their players to have arguments like that, you get what the coach gives you, you are not happy? You are free to leave.

That's what I have notice though, I mean they have been in the league for many years and yet they can't figure it out.

They have Beal before and that could be the best team that they have and yet they traded him instead of building a young team around him. Now, they are tanking once more, however, they could be getting a good pick next year so let's see how it goes for them and hopefully they can rebuild again, make a total rebuild and trade Kuzma or Jordan Poole.

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Right now, the Rockets are what I call the "Dark Horse" of the West just because they're at the top, but they don't have a legitimate all-star. I guess it's the overall teamwork alongside a good coach in Ime Udoka that's what makes this team a better one. We know how Udoka carried the Celtics to the Finals in his first season, so he has the capabilities to make this team even better and we're seeing it already.

The Rockets have been underdogs the past few seasons. Honestly, it's even unusual to see them at the top of the standings now instead of at the bottom. That's probably thanks to Udoka, although I still don't see them as a title contender. It seems to me that the second round in the playoffs is probably the maximum they can reach this regular season.

They've been, but it all changed when they changed their head coach from Stephen Silas to now Ime Udoka. Like you though, I don't see them as a title contender, and I guess many see them that way as well. They're young and we've seen how the Thunder got defeated in the 2nd round last playoffs by a more playoff-experienced Mavericks. It will be the same situation with them as well. It's good to see their young talented players to develop even more especially Green, Sengun, and aside from the 2 of them, they have young players as well that they can develop for their future.

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True..... This team hasn’t been the same since the Bradley Beal and John Wall era ended. Now, it’s just a group of players who don’t have that competitive fire to push the team into playoff contention. It’s a shame for Jordan Poole., if he had stayed with the Warriors, things could have been different.

If Poole wasn’t traded, I honestly think the Warriors could still be a championship team. Imagine Poole stepping up, no more Klay Thompson, but with a refreshed lineup, they could’ve been deadly. I think that was really a bad decision by the warriors.

I still miss the Wizards back years ago when they're still competing in the playoffs. That was the time when Paul Pierce is still with the team alongside Beal and Wall. They didn't win a title though, but that's the best version of Wizards that I've seen for the last decade. They got better though when they got Westbrook.

As for Poole, the Warriors could've been, but I don't think that the Warriors want him to stay especially after that beef with Green. It's like a slap to the face for Draymond Green if they will let him stay that's why he traded him. The Warriors are in a better position now though even without Poole.

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Wizards was always mismanaged, for years, decades even. Remember the whole Michael Jordan situation? He was part owner of the team and he decided to both make the team better but also give them a chance, and increase the value of the team a lot by going back in and playing, he played two seasons if I am not wrong and the owners just didn't do anything and didn't improve the team like they promised. This made MJ mad and he sold his rights in the team and went ahead and bought Charlotte, which turns out wasn't really that fair considering MJ never made a good team out of them neither, he owns a team that sucks so maybe he is a bit responsible too.

However, at the end of the day we are seeing how Wizards has been mismanaged for decades, even back then, and there were changes since, but they are still doing badly. A proper team would never allow their players to have arguments like that, you get what the coach gives you, you are not happy? You are free to leave.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on November 29, 2024, 08:24:07 AM

About the Washington Wizards, I remember a player who said he was thankful he was out of that team.
I found it.
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/davis-bertans-says-players-on-wizards-were-fighting-with-each-other-over-minutes-roles-every-single-day/
Davis Bertans says players on Wizards were fighting with each other over minutes, roles 'every single day
Even until now, you don't see a team play in that roster. They are all trying to be the star of the team and maybe just expecting a good contract in their next team when they fill their stats. Actually, Poole might be the perfect player for this kind of team.

I can see shades of the Spurs in this team last season. Before CP3 arrived, the team seemed like everyone was trying to outshine each other. But then a true leader came in, improved their chemistry, and turned things around, now the Spurs are playing with great teamwork.

I think what this team is lacking is a veteran player with a coach-like mentality to guide them. Without that, it feels like they’re bound to tank again this season, especially with this kind of situation happening within the team.

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Quote from: xzone on November 29, 2024, 07:34:55 AM

Houston Rockets are a very good team as a team, there is no superstar here, but there are very promising players who fight for the team. This is exactly the reason why this team is successful, they manage to play like basketball teams in Europe.

In each match, a different player becomes a star, and all other players support this situation. They have a great player who should be an allstar, Alperen Şengün. He deserved to be an allstar last year too, but the players selected were not the players who deserved that jersey. If this team is so successful this year, one of the biggest reasons is Alperen Şengün. I think we will watch him as an allstar this year

Ime Udoka also has a good contribution to that as well, I realized I didn't give him enough credit but he has seen what his team could do and he has managed to carve out a strategy for the team that would make them play better together because he knows how to get the best out of everyone.

He has a plan for every type of five out there, he can take out any player, and put in any player and change the way the team plays based on whoever is on the floor and he also managed to make the players realize how to do that as well, sometimes coaches have something in their minds but have hard time making players do exactly what they want, Ime Udoka made that possible.

Rockets definitely deserve all the credit for the way they are playing, they are definitely doing amazing. The reason is clear, like you said, they are playing very hard and giving all they have into every single game, we are used to seeing teams take a notch up during playoffs, but Rockets are playing like every game is game seven and this gives them a huge advantage over others. And since they are very young as well, this doesn't really tire them out too much, and they benefit from their youth and hunger for the game.

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Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on November 29, 2024, 12:39:35 AM

Even when Beal was with the Wizards this team was at the bottom almost every year. Also, I don't think Poole would have helped the GSW to win anything. He doesn't have the right mindset, can't follow simple coaching instructions and overall he is just too childish. Also, because of the tensions between Poole and most of the players it was an easy decision to trade him. Sure he can ball, even though it's too flashy at times, but he just didn't fit (anymore).

I also think the same about Poole, he is too immature although he is now 25 years old. Back in the GSW, I hated watching him play because he always tried to show off and it's obvious it was not the play written by Coach Kerr that's why they made many mistakes.

About the Washington Wizards, I remember a player who said he was thankful he was out of that team.
I found it.
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/davis-bertans-says-players-on-wizards-were-fighting-with-each-other-over-minutes-roles-every-single-day/
Davis Bertans says players on Wizards were fighting with each other over minutes, roles 'every single day
Even until now, you don't see a team play in that roster. They are all trying to be the star of the team and maybe just expecting a good contract in their next team when they fill their stats. Actually, Poole might be the perfect player for this kind of team.

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Quote from: el kaka22 on November 28, 2024, 04:09:10 PM

Rockets being second place at western conference is wild to me, with OKC being first as well. I mean these are two teams that heavily tanked and got some good draft picks and they did pick good players on those drafts to make them better, and just trusted their rookies and give them a lot of minutes for a few years and now they are improved a lot.

It goes to show you, if you draft well and give those players 4-5 seasons to be great, they are going to get amazing experience and be much better but you have to first grind through that terrible period. Obviously they added some decent veteran experience around them from free agency as well, but this goes to show you that trusting the future is the key to recover in this day of NBA, instead of hoping for big signing of star players. Rockets do not have any star players at all, all of them are just decent players, none of them are even all-star level player and yet they are second ranked right now.

Houston Rockets are a very good team as a team, there is no superstar here, but there are very promising players who fight for the team. This is exactly the reason why this team is successful, they manage to play like basketball teams in Europe.

In each match, a different player becomes a star, and all other players support this situation. They have a great player who should be an allstar, Alperen Şengün. He deserved to be an allstar last year too, but the players selected were not the players who deserved that jersey. If this team is so successful this year, one of the biggest reasons is Alperen Şengün. I think we will watch him as an allstar this year

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LeBron’s always had issues with teammates, even back then. Remember when Kyrie left Cleveland? He felt like LeBron hogged all the spotlight, even though Kyrie was a huge reason they won that championship. Honestly, I don’t think LeBron’s the best team player. Unless he can carry the Lakers every single game, that’s the only time they’ll really be a top contender.

To be fair Kyrie wanted to spotlight on himself and wanted to prove that he could be number one in a championship team and that's why he left, look at his old Cavs teammates, any other, they all love him and they are glad to have the same title as him, they are thankful basically.

This is why I believe we are not going to see much changes all the time, we are seeing a few people who do not get along well with him and that's true, Kyrie, Westbrook etc, but there are plenty more people who are thankful to play with Lebron and get their games better, the moment Lebron leaves a team, that team usually becomes a much worse team and that's the most important part. We can't really put the blame of Westbrook missing many shots on Lebron.

Kyrie admits that he's immature at that time https://nypost.com/2022/05/16/kyrie-irving-immaturity-cost-cavaliers-more-championships/

I guess he just want to prove that he can win championship even if he doesn't team up with Lebron. But he fail and didn't get what he look forward. But I guess he learn a lot from past mistake he made and now he became more better player in Mavs.

We see him became a team player and good motivator on his young teammates that's why many people love Kyrie now.

Agree to that, he's more matured now and he's playing for the benefits of the team and not just for his own statue, I like how he help the Mavs last season, he's close winning another title though Boston managed to take the ring, we are in another season and another tough competition for them, they just need to play all together and find that good blends and chemistries to win games.

Quote from: Yaunfitda on November 29, 2024, 01:33:47 AM

I'm not sure about Jordan Poole, yeah we might think of him as another splash brothers back then, but there is something different with Poole. He had a break out performance and we can say that he did help the Warriors win as he was instrumental. But it could have been a total different next season with him, specially with that huge contract in his head and I don't see him as a replacement even if Thompson move out. He might step up, but the errors that he has committing or game decision might have a issues with the Warriors if he stays with them.

Though we didn't see that happened as he was been move before Klay but I also thinks that if ever he stayed he can't fill that spot as for me he already thinks that he's a star and can do whatever he wants, which cause him comitting mistakes and with that they decided to trade him out though the fight against Green might be the big factor for this decision.

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Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on November 29, 2024, 12:39:35 AM

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True..... This team hasn’t been the same since the Bradley Beal and John Wall era ended. Now, it’s just a group of players who don’t have that competitive fire to push the team into playoff contention. It’s a shame for Jordan Poole., if he had stayed with the Warriors, things could have been different.

If Poole wasn’t traded, I honestly think the Warriors could still be a championship team. Imagine Poole stepping up, no more Klay Thompson, but with a refreshed lineup, they could’ve been deadly. I think that was really a bad decision by the warriors.

I agree with @dwyane36.. Udoka change that team (rockets).

Even when Beal was with the Wizards this team was at the bottom almost every year.

They were not when he was playing with John Wall..
Check this out. https://www.vavel.com/en-us/nba/2024/01/12/1168449-bradley-beal-advocates-for-john-walls-nba-return.html

Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on November 29, 2024, 12:39:35 AM

Also, I don't think Poole would have helped the GSW to win anything. He doesn't have the right mindset, can't follow simple coaching instructions and overall he is just too childish. Also, because of the tensions between Poole and most of the players it was an easy decision to trade him. Sure he can ball, even though it's too flashy at times, but he just didn't fit (anymore).

The issue was really just between Poole and Draymond, but let’s not forget, Poole proved he’s the real deal. He played a key role in the Warriors’ run to win the NBA Finals. I don’t know, maybe it’s just me too, but I feel like trading Poole made the Warriors weaker. It’s like they lost a young, rising star who could’ve carried the team in the future.

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