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Betting scandal in NBA isn't that common, I remember the refs as well but that's about it, I do not think that it would be smart decision. The position doesn't really look that much possible without the timeout, AD is right there and not even defending, and even if that was possible, you can see from different angles that coach is calling timeout way before Sexton ends up getting inside, so by the time Sexton was even in the 2 point area, Will Hardy was already calling for a timeout, defense just let Sexton go after that if you ask me.

That is one of the worst betting scandal that had happened in the NBA, and I remember as well the brother of Michael Porter Jr of the Nuggets also involving himself.

Here, though it's the coach that is being accused so it's hard to show proof though, unless the NBA makes it's own investigation. So let's see if they will do it or not because it seems that there is a cause for them as it is controversial.

Agree to that unless NBA will take this seriously and make their own investigation there might be a possibility but if there's no action then we might see that the issue will die naturally and the system will continue, betting scandal as you mentioned is no longer new officiating refs has been suspended because of these kind allegation.

Though in that sequence, I do agree from the post above te coach wa calling the timeout before Sexton penetrates inside he was beside the refs calling it, but we can't blame those bettors as they've got the chance winning the game if the coach risk that play, though not similar butI remember how Heat lose a game after coach Spo call a timeout and got the technical becuase they don't have any timeout left.

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Paul George finally has himself a good game helping the Philadelphia 76ers beat the Charlotte Hornets. He put up a season high 29 points and had some nice highlights. Hopefully this shows that he’s feeling back to his old self and when Joel Wmbiid gets back they can put together some sort of a run to climb out of the basement.

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It seems the King has gotten a case of the yips. LeBron James has now missed 24 straight 3 pointers over a period of a few games. This is the sort of thing that can get into your head and end your career. I never thought I’d see it happen to LeBron. So far he hasn’t stopped shooting them, but the watch is on for his first make…

It can happen to any player and I think even Lebron is just human so it will come to him, plus let us consider his age, his hands must be aching sometimes as it shows signs of decline. The Lakers are said to be playing better without him on the floor but I don't he will just sit there and watch them play. It will be up to the management and the coach, to bench him most of the time and maybe find a better strategy to maximize his usage in a different way.

24 missed shots in the distance if we will add the game against the Suns although he made 2 of 7 there. 19 for the past 4 games without any field goal in the 3-point line. Yes, that is an ugly stat for a superstar.

Yeah, we wouldn't understand why Lebron James have been shooting this bad lately, he had airballs and then bricks as it just hit the board. And then it seems that he is not really into the game right now as they are the defending champion of this tournament right?

Now he says that the NBA cup is not that important? Lol, talking about contradicting yourself and most likely this is his mindset. Thinking games are no longer important for him because they have lost the chance to defend it.

Well that's normal for a player to have a bad day. Guess we can see that Lebron still a human and there's a certain decline happening to him. But knowing how competitive Lebron is for sure he will bounce back on their next game. Also those mistakes he commit for sure will never erase his achievement although many people will get confused about what happened earlier, but for sure his solid fans would understand that its part of the game.

Maybe he just want to condition people to think that way but for sure its frustrating to his side to perform like that. But people need to move on and just see if he will perform well on their next game or create another shit show for Lakers.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on December 03, 2024, 06:40:53 PM

Quote from: OgNasty on December 03, 2024, 02:23:30 PM

It seems the King has gotten a case of the yips. LeBron James has now missed 24 straight 3 pointers over a period of a few games. This is the sort of thing that can get into your head and end your career. I never thought I’d see it happen to LeBron. So far he hasn’t stopped shooting them, but the watch is on for his first make…

It can happen to any player and I think even Lebron is just human so it will come to him, plus let us consider his age, his hands must be aching sometimes as it shows signs of decline. The Lakers are said to be playing better without him on the floor but I don't he will just sit there and watch them play. It will be up to the management and the coach, to bench him most of the time and maybe find a better strategy to maximize his usage in a different way.

24 missed shots in the distance if we will add the game against the Suns although he made 2 of 7 there. 19 for the past 4 games without any field goal in the 3-point line. Yes, that is an ugly stat for a superstar.

Yeah, we wouldn't understand why Lebron James have been shooting this bad lately, he had airballs and then bricks as it just hit the board. And then it seems that he is not really into the game right now as they are the defending champion of this tournament right?

Now he says that the NBA cup is not that important? Lol, talking about contradicting yourself and most likely this is his mindset. Thinking games are no longer important for him because they have lost the chance to defend it.

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Quote from: Webetcoins on December 03, 2024, 04:06:42 PM

Betting scandal in NBA isn't that common, I remember the refs as well but that's about it, I do not think that it would be smart decision. The position doesn't really look that much possible without the timeout, AD is right there and not even defending, and even if that was possible, you can see from different angles that coach is calling timeout way before Sexton ends up getting inside, so by the time Sexton was even in the 2 point area, Will Hardy was already calling for a timeout, defense just let Sexton go after that if you ask me.

That is one of the worst betting scandal that had happened in the NBA, and I remember as well the brother of Michael Porter Jr of the Nuggets also involving himself.

Here, though it's the coach that is being accused so it's hard to show proof though, unless the NBA makes it's own investigation. So let's see if they will do it or not because it seems that there is a cause for them as it is controversial.

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Quote from: OgNasty on December 03, 2024, 02:23:30 PM

It seems the King has gotten a case of the yips. LeBron James has now missed 24 straight 3 pointers over a period of a few games. This is the sort of thing that can get into your head and end your career. I never thought I’d see it happen to LeBron. So far he hasn’t stopped shooting them, but the watch is on for his first make…

It can happen to any player and I think even Lebron is just human so it will come to him, plus let us consider his age, his hands must be aching sometimes as it shows signs of decline. The Lakers are said to be playing better without him on the floor but I don't he will just sit there and watch them play. It will be up to the management and the coach, to bench him most of the time and maybe find a better strategy to maximize his usage in a different way.

24 missed shots in the distance if we will add the game against the Suns although he made 2 of 7 there. 19 for the past 4 games without any field goal in the 3-point line. Yes, that is an ugly stat for a superstar.

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Shams is reporting that Paul Millsap has retired. He was a great player and at the peak of his game he was like a heavier LeBron. I honestly thought he retired a couple years ago.

Here’s what Shams had to say:
“After 16 NBA seasons, four-time All-Star Paul Millsap has retired from basketball. Millsap, the No. 47 pick in the 2006 NBA draft, spent his career with the Jazz, Hawks, Nuggets, Nets and 76ers. One of eight players all-time with 500 3-pointers, 1,000 blocks and 1,000 steals.”

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Yeah, Will Hardy talked about it post game as well, on the interview he said he called time out as soon as he saw Collin Sexton was retreating, he didn't assume he would just go around his defender, plus maybe even him calling Timeout could be the reason. In the end, he himself said that he called time out before Sexton started to go around his defender, and you can see from the videos that are on youtube that referee checks back on Will Hardy before Collin makes his move, suggesting Will was already yelling time out, and less than a second later, when Collin is driving, we are seeing Will with his hands in the air screaming for a time out. So I guess that could maybe work.

That's the proof that's why Sexton got in as if it's too easy. I think that the defender also saw that there's already a call for timeout and signals that's why they play seem easy.

And that's why there's no need to put some pressure or accusation on him, that's just pure miscommunication in there and they have already accepted that loss.

Well there are some people sensualized the situation and maybe just to stir up the story to create something to talk about.

The game already ends and if this one not favor to them I guess they should move on and do more better job next time. Creating nonsense thing towards that last call and try to create the stain of coach reputation. Also for sure he won't destroy his reputation for just a regular game since for sure they can do better next time. This is just another crazy story happen and for sure the parties involve on what they call controversy would provably this issue.

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Quote from: Captain Corporate on December 03, 2024, 04:59:50 PM

Yeah, Will Hardy talked about it post game as well, on the interview he said he called time out as soon as he saw Collin Sexton was retreating, he didn't assume he would just go around his defender, plus maybe even him calling Timeout could be the reason. In the end, he himself said that he called time out before Sexton started to go around his defender, and you can see from the videos that are on youtube that referee checks back on Will Hardy before Collin makes his move, suggesting Will was already yelling time out, and less than a second later, when Collin is driving, we are seeing Will with his hands in the air screaming for a time out. So I guess that could maybe work.

That's the proof that's why Sexton got in as if it's too easy. I think that the defender also saw that there's already a call for timeout and signals that's why they play seem easy.

And that's why there's no need to put some pressure or accusation on him, that's just pure miscommunication in there and they have already accepted that loss.

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Yeah, Will Hardy talked about it post game as well, on the interview he said he called time out as soon as he saw Collin Sexton was retreating, he didn't assume he would just go around his defender, plus maybe even him calling Timeout could be the reason. In the end, he himself said that he called time out before Sexton started to go around his defender, and you can see from the videos that are on youtube that referee checks back on Will Hardy before Collin makes his move, suggesting Will was already yelling time out, and less than a second later, when Collin is driving, we are seeing Will with his hands in the air screaming for a time out. So I guess that could maybe work.

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Quote from: Oasisman on December 02, 2024, 06:12:47 PM

Has anyone seen the game between the Lakers and Jazz yesterday? Because, there has been a serious accusations about the Jazz head coach Will Hardy that he might be betting against his own team and were tanking for Cooper Flagg as well.
For anyone who doesn't know what I'm talking about, go watch Youtube clip about the Jazz head coach called time out after Collin Sexton had the momentum as he drove down the lane leaving Rui behind for a score that didn't count because of the timeout called.

That was actually something to call for an investigation for the NBA management. Something like that when Sexton was about to drive and gonna take that shot when there's an actual timeout that's called for.

Quote from: Webetcoins on December 03, 2024, 04:06:42 PM

Betting scandal in NBA isn't that common, I remember the refs as well but that's about it, I do not think that it would be smart decision. The position doesn't really look that much possible without the timeout, AD is right there and not even defending, and even if that was possible, you can see from different angles that coach is calling timeout way before Sexton ends up getting inside, so by the time Sexton was even in the 2 point area, Will Hardy was already calling for a timeout, defense just let Sexton go after that if you ask me.

And to be fair, Cooper Flagg seems like he worths every single type of tanking, maybe it is not just about coach betting or any scandal like that, it's just that he wants to tank, and that dude definitely worths all the tanking in the world.

Oh, so there's another angle that can be seen from that call of the coach that he's been calling for a timeout even before that drive that's done by Sexton.

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Betting scandal in NBA isn't that common, I remember the refs as well but that's about it, I do not think that it would be smart decision. The position doesn't really look that much possible without the timeout, AD is right there and not even defending, and even if that was possible, you can see from different angles that coach is calling timeout way before Sexton ends up getting inside, so by the time Sexton was even in the 2 point area, Will Hardy was already calling for a timeout, defense just let Sexton go after that if you ask me.

And to be fair, Cooper Flagg seems like he worths every single type of tanking, maybe it is not just about coach betting or any scandal like that, it's just that he wants to tank, and that dude definitely worths all the tanking in the world.

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It seems the King has gotten a case of the yips. LeBron James has now missed 24 straight 3 pointers over a period of a few games. This is the sort of thing that can get into your head and end your career. I never thought I’d see it happen to LeBron. So far he hasn’t stopped shooting them, but the watch is on for his first make…

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I highly doubt a coach would bet against his own team. Not saying humans aren't garbage at times, of course we have bad people all around the world and of course this could be one of those situations, but even when you think about how bad people can get, this isn't just about being bad, this is about being stupid, and if you are an NBA coach, you know better, you grew up in that environment.

The best thing about their life is that they are making millions of dollars, in a great country for them (USA is awesome for the wealthy) and they have all the healthcare coverage, and they have all the retirement benefits, and basically everything they can dream of. Why would they risk all of that just betting against themselves. Even betting on themselves to win makes sense, like you think you can win, but betting AGAINST? I do not think so. Refs did it at the time, but refs are not that comfortable like a coach.

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Quote from: Japinat on December 03, 2024, 07:30:31 AM

Let the NBA handle the investigation, but from where I stand, it does seem like calling that timeout was predictable. They just can’t seem to set up a solid play with only a few seconds left. Maybe the Lakers heard the timeout call, which made them relax on defense. Otherwise, I doubt the bigs would have let him drive inside uncontested, they’d have been all over that ball.

I wouldn't say it looked predictable. It looked weird. Kessler grabbed the rebound, and the Jazz had the ball with 9 seconds left in the fourth quarter. What was the point of taking a timeout with 2 seconds left and substituting Kessler? Obviously, if the Jazz had taken a timeout immediately after that rebound, they would have had a better opportunity to run a good offense and score two points to beat the Lakers rather than throwing down a hopeless three-pointer with 2 seconds before the end.

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Quote from: arwin100 on December 03, 2024, 08:16:14 AM

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Quote from: Oasisman on December 02, 2024, 06:12:47 PM

Has anyone seen the game between the Lakers and Jazz yesterday? Because, there has been a serious accusations about the Jazz head coach Will Hardy that he might be betting against his own team and were tanking for Cooper Flagg as well.
For anyone who doesn't know what I'm talking about, go watch Youtube clip about the Jazz head coach called time out after Collin Sexton had the momentum as he drove down the lane leaving Rui behind for a score that didn't count because of the timeout called.

Let the NBA handle the investigation, but from where I stand, it does seem like calling that timeout was predictable. They just can’t seem to set up a solid play with only a few seconds left. Maybe the Lakers heard the timeout call, which made them relax on defense. Otherwise, I doubt the bigs would have let him drive inside uncontested, they’d have been all over that ball.

There's many theories regarding on that sequence and I really think that this will be the hot topic especially that people doesn't really expect the outcome of the game.

This site create good article regarding in this issue https://www.si.com/nba/jazz/news/will-hardy-sounds-off-on-controversial-timeout-in-jazz-lakers

Well lets see what is the update of this case and if jazz coach could escape on that controversy they are facing. To many speculation happen and I guess it will be more better if they wait on the result of investigation since for sure NBA would provably take an action if they see something suspicious or illegal happen in that game.

From my point of view, I don't think Sexton would have had it that easy if the coach hadn't called the timeout, Anthony Davis wasn't far off where Sexton took the shot, if he would have made it over AD is an entirely different question, but it sure wouldn't have been that easy for him even if he did get by Rui. Moreso, I think what the commentators were making reference to was why he waited for time to run off the clock that much before calling the timeout, If he indeed wanted to call a specific play execution, he should have called timeout immediately after the defensive stop was made, perhaps he's second guessing himself or doesn't just trust his player enough but, be that as it may, the game will only keep losing its already deteriorating credibility if there is always some conspiracy theory surrounding every loss and/or apparent bad decision made by players and now its extended to coaches. Did Erik Spoelstra also take a live bet on his team to lose when he called an illegal timeout that handed Heat the loss against Pistons some weeks ago ??

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Quote from: Japinat on December 03, 2024, 07:30:31 AM

Quote from: Oasisman on December 02, 2024, 06:12:47 PM

Has anyone seen the game between the Lakers and Jazz yesterday? Because, there has been a serious accusations about the Jazz head coach Will Hardy that he might be betting against his own team and were tanking for Cooper Flagg as well.
For anyone who doesn't know what I'm talking about, go watch Youtube clip about the Jazz head coach called time out after Collin Sexton had the momentum as he drove down the lane leaving Rui behind for a score that didn't count because of the timeout called.

Let the NBA handle the investigation, but from where I stand, it does seem like calling that timeout was predictable. They just can’t seem to set up a solid play with only a few seconds left. Maybe the Lakers heard the timeout call, which made them relax on defense. Otherwise, I doubt the bigs would have let him drive inside uncontested, they’d have been all over that ball.

There's many theories regarding on that sequence and I really think that this will be the hot topic especially that people doesn't really expect the outcome of the game.

This site create good article regarding in this issue https://www.si.com/nba/jazz/news/will-hardy-sounds-off-on-controversial-timeout-in-jazz-lakers

Well lets see what is the update of this case and if jazz coach could escape on that controversy they are facing. To many speculation happen and I guess it will be more better if they wait on the result of investigation since for sure NBA would provably take an action if they see something suspicious or illegal happen in that game.

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Quote from: Oasisman on December 02, 2024, 06:12:47 PM

Has anyone seen the game between the Lakers and Jazz yesterday? Because, there has been a serious accusations about the Jazz head coach Will Hardy that he might be betting against his own team and were tanking for Cooper Flagg as well.
For anyone who doesn't know what I'm talking about, go watch Youtube clip about the Jazz head coach called time out after Collin Sexton had the momentum as he drove down the lane leaving Rui behind for a score that didn't count because of the timeout called.

Let the NBA handle the investigation, but from where I stand, it does seem like calling that timeout was predictable. They just can’t seem to set up a solid play with only a few seconds left. Maybe the Lakers heard the timeout call, which made them relax on defense. Otherwise, I doubt the bigs would have let him drive inside uncontested, they’d have been all over that ball.

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Quote from: Oasisman on December 02, 2024, 06:12:47 PM

Has anyone seen the game between the Lakers and Jazz yesterday? Because, there has been a serious accusations about the Jazz head coach Will Hardy that he might be betting against his own team and were tanking for Cooper Flagg as well.
For anyone who doesn't know what I'm talking about, go watch Youtube clip about the Jazz head coach called time out after Collin Sexton had the momentum as he drove down the lane leaving Rui behind for a score that didn't count because of the timeout called.

I don't think this was an intentional move to sabotage the game. Also, even if there was something fishy, this wouldn't have been him betting against the Jazz but the management telling them take it slow and collect losses. But usually you wouldn't make it that obvious, that's why I think it was just a big fat brain fart.
If they want to take a timeout they should have taken it right at the beginning of the last possession. They way he did it sure looks very odd but maybe he thought Sexton wouldn't get off a good shot because when he started to run on the court to take the TO Sexton was guarded pretty well. Once the coach started to run on the field Sexton beat his defender though and was right in the lane. Anyway, he had to call the TO at that point otherwise it would have been a technical foul since he was already on the court.
Overall a very unlucky situation.

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Has anyone seen the game between the Lakers and Jazz yesterday? Because, there has been a serious accusations about the Jazz head coach Will Hardy that he might be betting against his own team and were tanking for Cooper Flagg as well.
For anyone who doesn't know what I'm talking about, go watch Youtube clip about the Jazz head coach called time out after Collin Sexton had the momentum as he drove down the lane leaving Rui behind for a score that didn't count because of the timeout called.

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