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Quote from: OgNasty on February 23, 2024, 12:57:58 PM

I'm seeing news articles today saying the DeMarcus Cousins has officially retired from the NBA. There was talk that he had been trying out with the Golden State Warriors to be a backup center, but it seems those talks have died out. I would've liked to have seen Cousins have more success in his career. He was an absolute beast in his time with the Sacramento Kings and I think him and Anthony Davis would have surprised people with their postseason success had DeMarcus not gone down with an injury that then plagued him the rest of his career. In his prime, he was a truly special player.

Maybe they already lost an interest to sign him out since maybe they are worried if they can use him for long time knowing him his injury prone and might they will just waste some money also roster slot for getting him in their team. I guess much better for them if they look for another center that would surely last long on their team since that might be more better for them. But its undeniable that Cousins is really great knowing him how big the numbers he can contribute on that team but unfortunately injury caught the man and that end up his career in NBA. If he didn't suffer those injuries maybe we can see him dominating in paint just like what Davis doing.

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Ugly lost by the Suns against the Rockets, they take a early lead, but was not able to sustain it and then the Rockets take a double digit advantage. So it's time for the Suns to climb back and so they did, but they were outlast by the home team.

Bol was instrumental as Nurkic didn't play in this game with 25 points. The Suns could have make it though, and it's a battle of free throws in the last 8 seconds of the game. Booker hits 2, then Jabari on the other end. They fouled Durant, but he missed the first attempt and then had a violation in the second. Fred shoots for the violation but he missed as well. 114-110 for Houston. Lost my bet as I took the Suns -1.5 here. Angry

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Quote from: OgNasty on February 23, 2024, 12:57:58 PM

I'm seeing news articles today saying the DeMarcus Cousins has officially retired from the NBA. There was talk that he had been trying out with the Golden State Warriors to be a backup center, but it seems those talks have died out. I would've liked to have seen Cousins have more success in his career. He was an absolute beast in his time with the Sacramento Kings and I think him and Anthony Davis would have surprised people with their postseason success had DeMarcus not gone down with an injury that then plagued him the rest of his career. In his prime, he was a truly special player.

And it just shows the argument that NBA teams are not into the hunt for a center or even a back up. Dwight Howard and Cousins could have been a good in any team right now, but in this era, as we have argued, it has change already, it's more on big men needed to shoot outside.

But I do agree that during his prime Cousins can rekt anyone, and I believed that even Joel version right now, he will have a hard time guarding Cousins one on one. Injuries really plague any basketball superstars and we have seen it get the best of every players.

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Quote from: OgNasty on February 23, 2024, 12:57:58 PM

I'm seeing news articles today saying the DeMarcus Cousins has officially retired from the NBA. There was talk that he had been trying out with the Golden State Warriors to be a backup center, but it seems those talks have died out. I would've liked to have seen Cousins have more success in his career. He was an absolute beast in his time with the Sacramento Kings and I think him and Anthony Davis would have surprised people with their postseason success had DeMarcus not gone down with an injury that then plagued him the rest of his career. In his prime, he was a truly special player.

I guess you are talking about this.
DeMarcus Cousins Says He Won't Resume NBA Career: 'I Know I've Had My Time There'
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10110396-demarcus-cousins-says-he-wont-resume-nba-career-i-know-ive-had-my-time-there

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DeMarcus Cousins isn't retiring from professional basketball, but he's closed the door on potentially returning to the NBA.

Well, that was sad news. I was following this guy when he was showing his workouts on his social media account. I think he is in good shape but like you said, the history of his career might have been the culprit to end his story in the NBA.
He still got his career overseas but it's still different when you are in the NBA. The popularity gains are high and a chance for a better contract will always be possible. When he was signed by the Nuggets he played well. 31 games, 13 minutes per game and he was not wasting any chance he would be put on the floor to show his talent again. He played hard defense although no great highlights in the offensive end.
I like how Cousins plays because of his high-level defense and a bad boy underneath the rim but that's not the NBA now so I guess that's one of the reasons why he was having a difficult time being signed.
It's not his loss, he is in great shape like I said and there are a lot of NBA players who are playing for other leagues and still have a good story to tell.

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Quote from: OgNasty on February 23, 2024, 03:32:43 AM

That stat line for Jokic was crazy tonight. He ended with 21 points, 19 rebounds, 15 assists, and shot 100% from the field. Thats got to be one of the best stat lines of the year, possibly up there with an all time efficient game. That dude is going to carry Denver to another title if the rest of the NBA isn’t careful.

I feel like he gets those all the time. Honestly it is crazy and it looks like he is playing so slow put there. It's like the game just operates at a different speed for him. The 100% from the field on top of the triple double is the icing. Dude is just different and hate when I hear people not respect the guys game. It's insane.

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Quote from: OgNasty on February 23, 2024, 12:57:58 PM

I'm seeing news articles today saying the DeMarcus Cousins has officially retired from the NBA. There was talk that he had been trying out with the Golden State Warriors to be a backup center, but it seems those talks have died out. I would've liked to have seen Cousins have more success in his career. He was an absolute beast in his time with the Sacramento Kings and I think him and Anthony Davis would have surprised people with their postseason success had DeMarcus not gone down with an injury that then plagued him the rest of his career. In his prime, he was a truly special player.

I thought that he's retired already long time ago from the NBA when he decided to play in some other local leagues. While there's still hope on it on that time when he's playing overseas that he might be picked up again but it is to no avail. I guess he'd just do the same thing just like what other players do and that's go to and be an import of those teams and other local basketball leagues.

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Quote from: OgNasty on February 23, 2024, 12:57:58 PM

I'm seeing news articles today saying the DeMarcus Cousins has officially retired from the NBA. There was talk that he had been trying out with the Golden State Warriors to be a backup center, but it seems those talks have died out. I would've liked to have seen Cousins have more success in his career. He was an absolute beast in his time with the Sacramento Kings and I think him and Anthony Davis would have surprised people with their postseason success had DeMarcus not gone down with an injury that then plagued him the rest of his career. In his prime, he was a truly special player.

That's sad news but wasn't surprising at all since he hasn't been getting contracts in the NBA anymore. Who would forget what he has accomplished with the Sacramento Kings during his prime? He was also a double-double machine back then. However, just like other players in the NBA, particularly Derrick Rose, injuries have ended their promising careers prematurely.

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I'm seeing news articles today saying the DeMarcus Cousins has officially retired from the NBA. There was talk that he had been trying out with the Golden State Warriors to be a backup center, but it seems those talks have died out. I would've liked to have seen Cousins have more success in his career. He was an absolute beast in his time with the Sacramento Kings and I think him and Anthony Davis would have surprised people with their postseason success had DeMarcus not gone down with an injury that then plagued him the rest of his career. In his prime, he was a truly special player.

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The only downside in this game is that Klay Thompson continue to struggle with his shooting, just scoring 3 points in 28 minutes.

Yep, it was indeed a disappointing performance by Thompson. Nevertheless, let me remind you that he scored 35 points in the previous game against the Jazz. So, I think he's not as bad as it may seem at first glance, although his role on the team has really become less important compared to what it used to be.

He might score 35 points but struggle in his next game; it's not what the Warriors are looking for. They want to get the same Klay Thompson who can back up Curry every time their main star player will struggle. It's true that his role is becoming less important, and that might affect his next contract with the team since he was expecting a good salary, but with his current contribution, for sure, the management would not be able to give that. He still has the remaining of the season to prove himself, especially in the playoffs; the Game 6 Klay should come alive so he can keep his value.

It's his last chance, but we've seen enough from him since last season when he was also struggling. It was only when the Warriors started to limit Klay that they got better, going 8-2 in their last 10 games. This is quite new to me since they weren't getting those stats earlier this season. The strategy is straightforward: give Klay more minutes if he is hot, or bench him if he is struggling. It doesn't matter if that will affect his confidence; he has to understand that he isn't the same anymore and face the reality to contribute to the team effectively.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on February 22, 2024, 09:23:16 PM

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A few days ago, Jack Vaughn has been fired by the Brooklyn Nets. This I guess is the new meta for the teams out there when their teams don't perform well.
While it is a big matter for their team to have a good coach, it's always been the resort of most teams when they're underperforming, to have a coach gets fired.

Yeah, crappy team management.
The question here is: Is the Brooklyn Nets playing badly? No. Despite the frequent trades, player changes, and injuries, Jack Vaughn still found a way to put the Nets in the 11th rank of the East. He somehow made a way to make those newly acquired players play as a team. It's the management that is shitty for making this decision.
Plus, they don't really have a star or a leader in their roster. I mean who among those players will respect Ben Simmons as their leader? I don't think they will. He is young and definitely not the leader type. I doubt it will also be Bridges, Johnson, or even Thomas. That team doesn't have chemistry to start with, they are playing isolation games but they can still win games. It's not far from what is happening in the Washington Wizards team.
It's a management failure, fans know it, Brooklyn viewers know it, and they cannot just wash their hands after firing a head coach.
Now they are being blown out by the Raptors—the Raptors which is also restructuring their roster.

These teams management are going to do this, yeah, they've got all what it takes to do some changes.
But are we going to see this from time to time when they just think that their team isn't doing well? It is what it is for them and the new meta for these managements that they're going to fire the coaches is just so absurd. There should be a federation of coaches of at least giving them the ending season before they get fire.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on February 23, 2024, 05:33:01 AM

The only downside in this game is that Klay Thompson continue to struggle with his shooting, just scoring 3 points in 28 minutes.

Yep, it was indeed a disappointing performance by Thompson. Nevertheless, let me remind you that he scored 35 points in the previous game against the Jazz. So, I think he's not as bad as it may seem at first glance, although his role on the team has really become less important compared to what it used to be.

He might score 35 points but struggle in his next game; it's not what the Warriors are looking for. They want to get the same Klay Thompson who can back up Curry every time their main star player will struggle. It's true that his role is becoming less important, and that might affect his next contract with the team since he was expecting a good salary, but with his current contribution, for sure, the management would not be able to give that. He still has the remaining of the season to prove himself, especially in the playoffs; the Game 6 Klay should come alive so he can keep his value.

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Luka and Booker are creating another interesting rivalry. Both of their teams are also tied 6th place in the west. Dallas seems to be back as a serious contender in the top ranking since they're now 7-0 after the return of Kyrie.

The rivalry is already over between them. It's already concluded. Booker is nothing against Luka, my apology to those Booker fans here.

A rivalry is supposed to be equal and match but there are lots of times already where Luka eats Booker alive. That's not a rivalry anymore if the other party can't even bounce back and regain dominance over the other party. Regardless of who's their teammates in the Dallas Mavericks and Phoenix Suns since their first rivalry started, it's already clear that LUKA > BOOKER. No hate.

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Maybe Booker vs Luka is not even a question at the moment and I do agree that Luka Doncic is FAR better player without a doubt. But also Suns looks to be a better team than Dallas as well. Booker is not alone, he has plenty of greats with him, including Kevin Durant, which was a shocking move to be fair but he has been there. Dallas has nobody aside from Luka, I mean they do have Irving but that dude has been quite interesting lately so I am not sure if he is helping as much as he is hurting the locker room as well.

Booker hasn't really carried his team yet. The Suns before were a struggling team; they only improved when CP3 joined, and that progress continued when Durant joined and CP3 was traded. However, Luka is different, as right from the start, he was already the one carrying the Mavericks. Even with Kyrie joining him, it hasn't changed much; it only happened when Washington and Gafford were recently traded.

I can say that this team now looks like a championship team. They are on a hot streak, and we don't know when that will be broken.

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All in all, Dallas needs to build a better team around Luka to have a chance, that dude could eb the star of a championship team, only if you build a good squad around him as well, and find a good coach for him.

I think they have already built that team now, and with this hot winning streak, that already proves they succeeded.

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Quote from: Heartilly on February 23, 2024, 03:51:16 AM

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Luka and Booker are creating another interesting rivalry. Both of their teams are also tied 6th place in the west. Dallas seems to be back as a serious contender in the top ranking since they're now 7-0 after the return of Kyrie.

The rivalry is already over between them. It's already concluded. Booker is nothing against Luka, my apology to those Booker fans here.

A rivalry is supposed to be equal and match but there are lots of times already where Luka eats Booker alive. That's not a rivalry anymore if the other party can't even bounce back and regain dominance over the other party. Regardless of who's their teammates in the Dallas Mavericks and Phoenix Suns since their first rivalry started, it's already clear that LUKA > BOOKER. No hate.

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Maybe Booker vs Luka is not even a question at the moment and I do agree that Luka Doncic is FAR better player without a doubt. But also Suns looks to be a better team than Dallas as well. Booker is not alone, he has plenty of greats with him, including Kevin Durant, which was a shocking move to be fair but he has been there. Dallas has nobody aside from Luka, I mean they do have Irving but that dude has been quite interesting lately so I am not sure if he is helping as much as he is hurting the locker room as well.

All in all, Dallas needs to build a better team around Luka to have a chance, that dude could eb the star of a championship team, only if you build a good squad around him as well, and find a good coach for him.

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How about the games between the Warriors and the Lakers, Curry point in a show with he wax hot in the 1st quarter and that no look pass for Wiggins for a dunk. No Lebron though, as he was rested. And obviously, the Warriors is being led by AD. But the Warriors had a lot of weapons here, Kuminga and Wiggins and Draymond anchoring their defense. All the Warriors that was fielded in this game score, with Trayce Jackson-Davis 17 points. The only downside in this game is that Klay Thompson continue to struggle with his shooting, just scoring 3 points in 28 minutes.

No Lebron James, so it's a easy win for the Warriors, and even if Klay struggled, they played on their homecourt and so the second stringers are very comfortable like Jackson-Davis and Moses Moody.

And again, if Curry is shooting that hot in the first half, it's very hard to defeat the Warriors except for their early games wherein they choke after leading a comfortable lead. But not in this games as the Lakers starting unit has also struggled. So it's a good win for them. They are 2 games above .500 but still in the 10th place in the West behind the Lakers.

Warriors are very unstoppable now. Again, the Lakers struggle with their 3-point shooting, unable to match the Warriors' shooting. Without LeBron, that's a huge loss for the team since the Lakers are just like missing Curry on their team as their leader. It's safe to say that the Warriors had figured out how to stay consistent in winning. Even when Thompson struggles, Curry remains with his hot shooting, and the coaching staff makes the right adjustments to use more talent and limit Thompson's minutes. I bet, in the next game, Thompson will be GOATing as that has been the trend so far for him.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on February 23, 2024, 05:33:01 AM

The only downside in this game is that Klay Thompson continue to struggle with his shooting, just scoring 3 points in 28 minutes.

Yep, it was indeed a disappointing performance by Thompson. Nevertheless, let me remind you that he scored 35 points in the previous game against the Jazz. So, I think he's not as bad as it may seem at first glance, although his role on the team has really become less important compared to what it used to be.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on February 23, 2024, 05:33:01 AM

How about the games between the Warriors and the Lakers, Curry point in a show with he wax hot in the 1st quarter and that no look pass for Wiggins for a dunk. No Lebron though, as he was rested. And obviously, the Warriors is being led by AD. But the Warriors had a lot of weapons here, Kuminga and Wiggins and Draymond anchoring their defense. All the Warriors that was fielded in this game score, with Trayce Jackson-Davis 17 points. The only downside in this game is that Klay Thompson continue to struggle with his shooting, just scoring 3 points in 28 minutes.

No Lebron James, so it's a easy win for the Warriors, and even if Klay struggled, they played on their homecourt and so the second stringers are very comfortable like Jackson-Davis and Moses Moody.

And again, if Curry is shooting that hot in the first half, it's very hard to defeat the Warriors except for their early games wherein they choke after leading a comfortable lead. But not in this games as the Lakers starting unit has also struggled. So it's a good win for them. They are 2 games above .500 but still in the 10th place in the West behind the Lakers.

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How about the games between the Warriors and the Lakers, Curry point in a show with he wax hot in the 1st quarter and that no look pass for Wiggins for a dunk. No Lebron though, as he was rested. And obviously, the Warriors is being led by AD. But the Warriors had a lot of weapons here, Kuminga and Wiggins and Draymond anchoring their defense. All the Warriors that was fielded in this game score, with Trayce Jackson-Davis 17 points. The only downside in this game is that Klay Thompson continue to struggle with his shooting, just scoring 3 points in 28 minutes.

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I'm glad that we're getting some great matchups the first day back after all star break. The matchup I'm most excited for is the Dallas Mavericks vs the Phoenix Suns. Luka owned Booker in the post season a few years back and ever since then there has been bad blood between those two. Luka had been spanking Booker each time they met, but Booker and the Suns got the best of the Mavericks the last time they met. Tonight's game is on TNT and I'll probably try to catch at least the ending of it if possible. This is my favorite rivalry in the NBA right now. They genuinely dislike each other.

Yes, and most likely that's why they got Durant to really help Bookier in offense But Dallas also had Kyrie so definitely this is a great match up after the All Star. Both are competitive, but I think the Suns need to proved that they can take the Mavericks otherwise Luka will continue to dominate them. It's more on KD leading the Suns in this game.

Of course Booker will be there, him and Luka can go one on one if they like. But the key here is KD for me.

So far the odds are very close, Mavericks slight favorite to win in this game.

It was still Booker who lead the team, KD help a lot, but the bench of the Mavericks put in a show with those 3 point show and Luka, dominated his favorite team the Phoenix Suns. Although it was really very close, and even if the Mavericks take that lead, Booker answered with the help of KD to make a comeback. But Luka though, he just look the game very easy for us basketball fans, nothing spectacular with his moves, but it was very effective and his basketball IQ is off the charts. The are one of the hottest teams right now and I think gonna be him and Jokic for the MVP this season.

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But now, centers are different, they are now shooting from the outside, making 3's. And it's probably the blame on the European's like Dirk early 2000's when they came and then shots from 3's and thus evolved as we have seen Jokic or even Embiid attempting to shoot from the outside.

Dirk has played almost his entire career at the power forward position rather than the center position. So, I don't think he should be blamed for the current generation of centers playing more outside the paint.
Honestly, I somehow think that the NBA will sooner or later come to the point where centers who can dominate the paint will be valued again rather than those who can shoot 3-pointers.

It's just for semantics mate, what I mean is that Dirk started the whole "big guy" shooting from the outside. We haven't seen that kind of players before, center or power forward who's shooting deep.

But now, every center, like Joel and Jokic or ever power forward like Giannis shooting from that region. I'm not sure about that, just look at the Warriors, they have a legit center in Looney, but it was Draymond who play that center position for them or at least guard the tallest player in the opposite team. There could still be centers in the league, but we might not see what Shaq did during his prime or even Dwight Howard who completely dominated the paint and then intimidate and block shots.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on February 23, 2024, 03:33:14 AM

Luka and Booker are creating another interesting rivalry. Both of their teams are also tied 6th place in the west. Dallas seems to be back as a serious contender in the top ranking since they're now 7-0 after the return of Kyrie.

The rivalry is already over between them. It's already concluded. Booker is nothing against Luka, my apology to those Booker fans here.

A rivalry is supposed to be equal and match but there are lots of times already where Luka eats Booker alive. That's not a rivalry anymore if the other party can't even bounce back and regain dominance over the other party. Regardless of who's their teammates in the Dallas Mavericks and Phoenix Suns since their first rivalry started, it's already clear that LUKA > BOOKER. No hate.

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