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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on January 05, 2025, 09:16:17 PM

Well probably they are now somewhat scratching their heads on why they make this trade, KAT games was still high level, also he could be a liable on offense. But as far as contract goes, just maybe if they can do something they will kept KAT for good. And not just they decided to stick with Gobert, they also think that Naz Reid is a good fit for them.

For sure they are.

The New York Knicks are now a contender and are on top 3 with KAT. While the Timberwolves are on the top 10. That's a huge gap and thank goodness, KAT is on a better team now.

Reid is fine, overall they have a good roster but KAT is a big reduction for them.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on January 05, 2025, 08:54:32 PM

Quote from: OgNasty on January 05, 2025, 04:02:34 PM

How much do you think Anthony Edwards is missing Karl Anthony Towns right now? KAT wasn’t valued during his stay in Minnesota. Letting him go to keep Gobert was one of the dumbest management decisions of all time.

Often times, people see on KAT is his weakness in defending the perimeter, and it out-shadows his ability to stretch the floor through his 3-pt shots.

I guess with what's happening with both New York and Minnesota right now, we are seeing who's the clear winner on this trade already. Right after the trade happens, many said here that it was an equal trade since both teams got an all-star in exchange, but NYK right now is performing better than Minnesota if we will compare their performance last season and this season. The management doesn't want to let go of KAT, but it's because of his contract that forced them to do so. As for choosing Gobert to stay is a gamble for them, and seeing KAT being weak on defending the perimeter, it's pretty obvious that they will choose Gobert. I mean he's a 4x Defensive of the year.

Was it the dumbest management decisions? It is one, but the dumbest for me is not keeping Gobert, but getting Gobert in general. Cheesy

Are we sure it out-shadows though? I mean we do see KAT putting so much into his gameplay, and yes his perimeter defense is almost non-existent, and on this day and age, everyone plays like that, so it's quite important to realize maybe he needs more, but at the same time he is stretching the floor like a proper five these days, and that's what teams require.

So, I think it's definitely a big deal, and I believe that they are happy with the trade as well. Of course he is not a superstar, nobody expects him to go out and score 30 every night and grab 10 boards and shoot 6-7 threes and make 3 of them. That would be a superstar level and KAT isn't one, but he is definitely a good core player for some championship team, if you build good around him.

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on January 05, 2025, 09:16:17 PM

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Quote from: OgNasty on January 05, 2025, 04:02:34 PM

How much do you think Anthony Edwards is missing Karl Anthony Towns right now? KAT wasn’t valued during his stay in Minnesota. Letting him go to keep Gobert was one of the dumbest management decisions of all time.

Often times, people see on KAT is his weakness in defending the perimeter, and it out-shadows his ability to stretch the floor through his 3-pt shots.

I guess with what's happening with both New York and Minnesota right now, we are seeing who's the clear winner on this trade already. Right after the trade happens, many said here that it was an equal trade since both teams got an all-star in exchange, but NYK right now is performing better than Minnesota if we will compare their performance last season and this season. The management doesn't want to let go of KAT, but it's because of his contract that forced them to do so. As for choosing Gobert to stay is a gamble for them, and seeing KAT being weak on defending the perimeter, it's pretty obvious that they will choose Gobert. I mean he's a 4x Defensive of the year.

Was it the dumbest management decisions? It is one, but the dumbest for me is not keeping Gobert, but getting Gobert in general. Cheesy

I do not think that getting Gobert is a dumb decision for them, he was a big help in the team with at least 10 points per game and 10 rebounds and then him protecting the rim and changing a lot of shots. So I do not understand why people keeps on hitting on Gobert though, just saying. And then there could really be some issues on Randle for him not passing and then ANT being exposed now as he complained that he was often times being double team.

Well probably they are now somewhat scratching their heads on why they make this trade, KAT games was still high level, also he could be a liable on offense. But as far as contract goes, just maybe if they can do something they will kept KAT for good. And not just they decided to stick with Gobert, they also think that Naz Reid is a good fit for them.

The problem is that Minnesota was relying on Anthony Edwards to take over the helm at the offensive end now that KAT is gone. They underestimated KAT's presence on offense though and now Ant is starting to struggle a bit as the only option. Meanwhile, KAT is thriving in New York as a team that is happy to suddenly have such an offensive monster in the middle. I think ultimately it was the clash in personalities that sent KAT to New York, but I'm happy for him. I think he'll thrive going forward as his talent is more appreciated. As for Minnesota, they better figure out how to not waste Ant's career.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on January 06, 2025, 09:45:41 AM

Malik Monk kept the hot hands for 2 consecutive games. Yes, one of the keys that made the Kings win today was Monk shooting 5/8 in three-point field goals and 12 assists. He mostly plays at this kind of level whenever Fox is not around just like now and I think the Kings are thankful that someone will always fill the hole.
The Warriors on the other hand seem to have lost the touch. 12/35 in three-point field goal which is not like how they played in their last two games. They are above 50 percent in distance shots on those two while now they have 34 percent only. It's not the recipe to climb the ladder. The Warriors need more wins if they want to secure a spot in the playoffs.

Yes, it's the Warriors inconsistency that's killing them in this season, just like when they started hot in the beginning and leads the West. And then they are in the losings slump, Dennis comes on-board win some game. Prior to this game, Steph Curry didn't play but the manage to get a win.

Now with him back in the line up, it seems that they are somewhat experiencing the same problem. Dennis just 3 points and Buddy Hield with 7 points. Something is really off with the team right now and they have to fix it ASAP to be in the playoff this season.

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Malik Monk kept the hot hands for 2 consecutive games. Yes, one of the keys that made the Kings win today was Monk shooting 5/8 in three-point field goals and 12 assists. He mostly plays at this kind of level whenever Fox is not around just like now and I think the Kings are thankful that someone will always fill the hole.
The Warriors on the other hand seem to have lost the touch. 12/35 in three-point field goal which is not like how they played in their last two games. They are above 50 percent in distance shots on those two while now they have 34 percent only. It's not the recipe to climb the ladder. The Warriors need more wins if they want to secure a spot in the playoffs.

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Quote from: stadus on January 06, 2025, 03:46:45 AM

OKC is on a roll, keeping their winning streak alive..

I was really impressed with how they played, especially their adjustments in the second half.
Their defense was outstanding, holding the Celtics to just 27 pts in the second half, best team now...

Honestly, I thought the Celtics had this game on their side after dominating the first half, but things completely flipped in the second.

win streak now at 15 Cheesy

Same here, I thought that this is going to be close game, as Celtics is not easy to be dominated specially if they have a good lead in the first half. But OKC is very different this season, I guess they really learn from last year and so that added experience brings out the best in them. Not just they are winning, they are also covering the spread, Lol. For sure you know what I mean, as they can easily win by double digits regardless of who is in front of them. So let's see what team are going to end their streak. They will be tested by the Knicks who is also a great team from the East. And then the showdown of best team, OKC against Cavs who is also in a 10 game winning streak. They are going to face each other on January 17 so that is a game to watch.

This guy, Hartenstein, is the lucky charm for the team. Ever since he took over the center position, things have improved. Now, the big question is, what happens to Chet when he comes back? Will he return to his usual minutes and starting role, or will Hartenstein permanently take over since the team seems to be better with him in that spot?

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on January 05, 2025, 08:54:32 PM

Quote from: OgNasty on January 05, 2025, 04:02:34 PM

How much do you think Anthony Edwards is missing Karl Anthony Towns right now? KAT wasn’t valued during his stay in Minnesota. Letting him go to keep Gobert was one of the dumbest management decisions of all time.

Often times, people see on KAT is his weakness in defending the perimeter, and it out-shadows his ability to stretch the floor through his 3-pt shots.

I think KAT is a good defender, however, I do agree that there is monetary considerations why the traded KAT, or money that owner is that cheap that he let go of their franchise player. And now from being a contender last year, to fighting for a play-in spot before the All Star break. So for sure fans didn't like the move of the team, as they lean on ANT/NAZ/Jaden as their core which is not very effective.

As it disrupt with the arrival of Julius Randle, and why they prioritized Naz or Jaden or even Gobert over KAT. That we can't really understand except for the money and flexibility but they are definitely out for the NBA title contention for this year.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on January 06, 2025, 04:25:00 AM

Quote from: stadus on January 06, 2025, 03:46:45 AM

OKC is on a roll, keeping their winning streak alive..

I was really impressed with how they played, especially their adjustments in the second half.
Their defense was outstanding, holding the Celtics to just 27 pts in the second half, best team now...

Honestly, I thought the Celtics had this game on their side after dominating the first half, but things completely flipped in the second.

win streak now at 15 Cheesy

Same here, I thought that this is going to be close game, as Celtics is not easy to be dominated specially if they have a good lead in the first half. But OKC is very different this season, I guess they really learn from last year and so that added experience brings out the best in them. Not just they are winning, they are also covering the spread, Lol. For sure you know what I mean, as they can easily win by double digits regardless of who is in front of them. So let's see what team are going to end their streak. They will be tested by the Knicks who is also a great team from the East. And then the showdown of best team, OKC against Cavs who is also in a 10 game winning streak. They are going to face each other on January 17 so that is a game to watch.

Yeah, those who trust them covering the handicap are benefiting especially those who pick them during the live game, they are down in the first half and knowing the defending champ when they are in front it's not easy to beat them, and same with what you both said, OKC got a solid stars and role players, each individual knows what's their role and they are performing to the best that they can sharing every single minutes that they are inside the court.

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Quote from: stadus on January 06, 2025, 03:46:45 AM

OKC is on a roll, keeping their winning streak alive..

I was really impressed with how they played, especially their adjustments in the second half.
Their defense was outstanding, holding the Celtics to just 27 pts in the second half, best team now...

Honestly, I thought the Celtics had this game on their side after dominating the first half, but things completely flipped in the second.

win streak now at 15 Cheesy

Same here, I thought that this is going to be close game, as Celtics is not easy to be dominated specially if they have a good lead in the first half. But OKC is very different this season, I guess they really learn from last year and so that added experience brings out the best in them. Not just they are winning, they are also covering the spread, Lol. For sure you know what I mean, as they can easily win by double digits regardless of who is in front of them. So let's see what team are going to end their streak. They will be tested by the Knicks who is also a great team from the East. And then the showdown of best team, OKC against Cavs who is also in a 10 game winning streak. They are going to face each other on January 17 so that is a game to watch.

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OKC is on a roll, keeping their winning streak alive..

I was really impressed with how they played, especially their adjustments in the second half.
Their defense was outstanding, holding the Celtics to just 27 pts in the second half, best team now...

Honestly, I thought the Celtics had this game on their side after dominating the first half, but things completely flipped in the second.

win streak now at 15 Cheesy

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on January 05, 2025, 08:54:32 PM

Quote from: OgNasty on January 05, 2025, 04:02:34 PM

How much do you think Anthony Edwards is missing Karl Anthony Towns right now? KAT wasn’t valued during his stay in Minnesota. Letting him go to keep Gobert was one of the dumbest management decisions of all time.

Often times, people see on KAT is his weakness in defending the perimeter, and it out-shadows his ability to stretch the floor through his 3-pt shots.

I guess with what's happening with both New York and Minnesota right now, we are seeing who's the clear winner on this trade already. Right after the trade happens, many said here that it was an equal trade since both teams got an all-star in exchange, but NYK right now is performing better than Minnesota if we will compare their performance last season and this season. The management doesn't want to let go of KAT, but it's because of his contract that forced them to do so. As for choosing Gobert to stay is a gamble for them, and seeing KAT being weak on defending the perimeter, it's pretty obvious that they will choose Gobert. I mean he's a 4x Defensive of the year.

Was it the dumbest management decisions? It is one, but the dumbest for me is not keeping Gobert, but getting Gobert in general. Cheesy

I do not think that getting Gobert is a dumb decision for them, he was a big help in the team with at least 10 points per game and 10 rebounds and then him protecting the rim and changing a lot of shots. So I do not understand why people keeps on hitting on Gobert though, just saying. And then there could really be some issues on Randle for him not passing and then ANT being exposed now as he complained that he was often times being double team.

Well probably they are now somewhat scratching their heads on why they make this trade, KAT games was still high level, also he could be a liable on offense. But as far as contract goes, just maybe if they can do something they will kept KAT for good. And not just they decided to stick with Gobert, they also think that Naz Reid is a good fit for them.

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Quote from: OgNasty on January 05, 2025, 04:02:34 PM

How much do you think Anthony Edwards is missing Karl Anthony Towns right now? KAT wasn’t valued during his stay in Minnesota. Letting him go to keep Gobert was one of the dumbest management decisions of all time.

Often times, people see on KAT is his weakness in defending the perimeter, and it out-shadows his ability to stretch the floor through his 3-pt shots.

I guess with what's happening with both New York and Minnesota right now, we are seeing who's the clear winner on this trade already. Right after the trade happens, many said here that it was an equal trade since both teams got an all-star in exchange, but NYK right now is performing better than Minnesota if we will compare their performance last season and this season. The management doesn't want to let go of KAT, but it's because of his contract that forced them to do so. As for choosing Gobert to stay is a gamble for them, and seeing KAT being weak on defending the perimeter, it's pretty obvious that they will choose Gobert. I mean he's a 4x Defensive of the year.

Was it the dumbest management decisions? It is one, but the dumbest for me is not keeping Gobert, but getting Gobert in general. Cheesy

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Quote from: OgNasty on January 05, 2025, 04:02:34 PM

How much do you think Anthony Edwards is missing Karl Anthony Towns right now? KAT wasn’t valued during his stay in Minnesota. Letting him go to keep Gobert was one of the dumbest management decisions of all time.

For sure him or the Wolves management wish that they didn't let go of Karl Anthony Towns because him and Gobert and Anthony Edwards has built a good chemistry that's why it was surprising to see Towns being traded and now he is blooming with the Knicks while the Wolves regress specially Edwards and now there are no more trash talking or swagger on him on being the next Michael Jordan.

Quote from: xLays on January 05, 2025, 05:36:47 PM

I guess the best candidate for Jimmy Butler trade is the phoenix suns. If possible If I'm GM of PHX Suns I'll trade 1st round pick and Bradley Beal for Jimmy Butler. But the question is will Pat Riley accept it? What do you think?

I do not think that Jimmy though might be a perfect fight in the West. I still wanted him to go and compete in the East division and somewhat dominate it like what the Heat was during in their last couple of years. And Pat Riley might not approved of it as they might see Bradley Beal as a potential franchise player for them. But still very interesting what kind of offers they are going to get from other teams. Probably not just one 1st or 2nd round pick.

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Quote from: Fredomago on January 05, 2025, 06:07:11 PM

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Quote from: xLays on January 05, 2025, 05:36:47 PM

I guess the best candidate for Jimmy Butler trade is the phoenix suns. If possible If I'm GM of PHX Suns I'll trade 1st round pick and Bradley Beal for Jimmy Butler. But the question is will Pat Riley accept it? What do you think?

That seems a good trade for Phoenix to get read of Beal and 1st round pick. But I'd rather choose any other than of the 1st round pick, I think that there are a better prospect on the next draft season.

That's the condition or offer that Phoenix can provide that might let Pat to agree, though if they really intend to be competitive they need to work with Jimmy's attitude, knowing both KD and Booker they need to make sure that Butler is willing to embrace his possible assignment to help the team.

And I doubt that with that kind of roster, they'll end up with the title. We've seen it several in the past that most teams with a lot of superstars don't end successfully.

Quote from: Fredomago on January 05, 2025, 06:07:11 PM

Quote from: xLays on January 05, 2025, 05:36:47 PM

Also it looks like instead of Philadelphia Sixers that has no chance to make playoffs this year it looks like the Miami Heat will be the one that might not going to playoffs this season. lol

They are still on the good standing and with most times that Jimmy is injured. I'd say that they're still on a better position than most of the teams that are struggling right now even having their star players.

Yeah, Herro and Bam with those supporting role players they are still competing and they still have that winning mentality even without Butler.

That's why they're totally fine pushing Jimmy out and requesting for a trade because they still have Bam and Herro. They also have a lot of good prospects like JJJr.

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