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January 14, 2024, 02:39:05 PM
A good matchup today with a couple of the hottest teams in the league. This could be a good matchup in the postseason. The Los Angeles Clippers vs the Minnesota Timberwolves. I think the Timberwolves could come away with a win, but it will mostly depend on whether Minnesota’s defense can stop the Clippers offense in my opinion.
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January 14, 2024, 11:59:08 AM
I am not the biggest NBA fan but was able to watch the game live of the Atlanta Hawks vs Washington Wizards. While the Wizards are lower ranked, in the end they won pretty simple. The Hawks just missed way too many shots, I think they only had a percentage of 30% on their 3 point attemps while the Wizards had around 50%.
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If Giannis demanded a trade just because his brother wasn't on the team, that would be selfish on his part. I mean, it wouldn't be good if Giannis manipulated and blackmailed the Bucks' management just to secure a roster spot for his brother.
I'm more than sure there are a lot of guys with good potential who lose the opportunity to get on the roster just because a player like Thanasis already takes the spot.
Maybe it will be a different scenario now. He already helped his brother make a lot of money and if they are good at managing it perhaps letting him decide where to go from there should be the new option. It's not like that dude is a bad player. He is still a big man that can be used by other teams for bench rebounders and I think other teams will be willing to make him an offer.

Milwaukee Bucks won today but the Golden State Warriors without Stephen Curry gave them a hard time to take the win. Klay Thompson found his rhythm and there's Kuminga who had been showing a phenomenal performance every game. Then there's Brandin Podziemski who tied his career high of 23 points. But, that's not enough to defeat the trio of the Bucks. 3 players, Giannis, Dame, and Middleton all scored beyond 20 points but it was Middleton who put the dagger to win the game, he was shooting lights out and had been playing like an All-Star once again.
Still, Steve Kerr must be happy that his bench showed well today, there was even a time when they got the lead so he must be satisfied with what happened although they lost.

Well, I am not going to talk trash about him just for trying to help his brother. All I want to say is he is obviously going to want the best for his brother. But whether the authority is going to agree or not is another story. At least that's how it should be. If the daughter is pressured to do something which they do not feel is going to be the best for the team just because of a player, that is probably wrong in my opinion.

I can say that the Golden State Warriors are definitely missing the service of Stephen Curry. If he had been with the team, I think this could have been a win for the Golden State Warriors. But anyway, the Bucks performed dwell in this match and got a very well-deserved win.
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January 14, 2024, 03:10:05 AM
It could be different though, but what if without Thanasis Giannis will not be Giannis and will demand a trade? I think speaking about blackmailing here, it's not Thanasis who is playing the game, but Giannis, because he knows the management will do everything to keep him.

If Giannis demanded a trade just because his brother wasn't on the team, that would be selfish on his part. I mean, it wouldn't be good if Giannis manipulated and blackmailed the Bucks' management just to secure a roster spot for his brother.
I'm more than sure there are a lot of guys with good potential who lose the opportunity to get on the roster just because a player like Thanasis already takes the spot.

Maybe Giannis is not vocal but I believe the manage is very well aware that Giannis brother could affect his decision making, and they don't want to gamble on that. It maybe a bad decision as that spot could be given to the other player that is more deserving, but it is what it is now, they know better than us, and they are in the business for so long, so anything that could be out of normal maybe normal for them, just to protect their biggest investment.

Milwaukee Bucks won today but the Golden State Warriors without Stephen Curry gave them a hard time to take the win. Klay Thompson found his rhythm and there's Kuminga who had been showing a phenomenal performance every game. Then there's Brandin Podziemski who tied his career high of 23 points. But, that's not enough to defeat the trio of the Bucks.

It's really different if Curry is playing as the Warriors could use Curry in the clutch. 4th quarter is the most important one, and this guy, the Bucks outscored the Warriors, resulting to their defeat.

Honestly, I didn't even expect that the Warriors will play that well without Curry, or maybe the Bucks are just kind of overrated team now?

I wasn't able to watch or bet on the game, but I was surprised that Steph is not playing tonight? And so it's easy to bet on the Bucks with a handicap here. But I do agree that the Warriors shows in this fight and gave Milwaukee a good run in this game. It's good to see the Klay Thompon's shooting slump is over now as he had back to back games that he is shooting good.
I would still not be confident betting on the Bucks even without Curry as they were -14 that game, in fact, they didn't cover the spread as they only won by 11 points.


Podziemski is another good acquisition from the Warriors, he is like Donte last year for them. But they need to be healthy all the way, Splash Brothers and then the whole team playing as a unit. CP3 though is out for the next 5-6 weeks if I'm not mistaken so that is a big factor for them entering the 1st half of the season. Hopefully he will be back after the All-Star break for a final push for a playoff spot.
This guy has earn a spot on the Warriors roster, he showed consistency on this games and he works hard inside. But as we all know, he is just a rookie (Correct me if I'm wrong), so it's hard to trust him when the game is on the line.

Warriors give him a rest, that's why he didnt' play.

https://www.mercurynews.com/2024/01/13/golden-state-warriors-steph-curry-to-miss-saturdays-game-against-milwaukee-bucks/
Steph Curry will miss the Warriors’ game at Milwaukee on Saturday night to rest, the team announced.

And so the Lakers continue their losing streak against the the Jazz.

Lebron also rested. But the Lakers were actually doing great early, they just could not sustain, possibly because Reaves fouled out early, and of course missing Lebron is a big thing.
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January 14, 2024, 03:01:29 AM
It could be different though, but what if without Thanasis Giannis will not be Giannis and will demand a trade? I think speaking about blackmailing here, it's not Thanasis who is playing the game, but Giannis, because he knows the management will do everything to keep him.

If Giannis demanded a trade just because his brother wasn't on the team, that would be selfish on his part. I mean, it wouldn't be good if Giannis manipulated and blackmailed the Bucks' management just to secure a roster spot for his brother.
I'm more than sure there are a lot of guys with good potential who lose the opportunity to get on the roster just because a player like Thanasis already takes the spot.

Maybe Giannis is not vocal but I believe the manage is very well aware that Giannis brother could affect his decision making, and they don't want to gamble on that. It maybe a bad decision as that spot could be given to the other player that is more deserving, but it is what it is now, they know better than us, and they are in the business for so long, so anything that could be out of normal maybe normal for them, just to protect their biggest investment.

Milwaukee Bucks won today but the Golden State Warriors without Stephen Curry gave them a hard time to take the win. Klay Thompson found his rhythm and there's Kuminga who had been showing a phenomenal performance every game. Then there's Brandin Podziemski who tied his career high of 23 points. But, that's not enough to defeat the trio of the Bucks.

It's really different if Curry is playing as the Warriors could use Curry in the clutch. 4th quarter is the most important one, and this guy, the Bucks outscored the Warriors, resulting to their defeat.

Honestly, I didn't even expect that the Warriors will play that well without Curry, or maybe the Bucks are just kind of overrated team now?

I wasn't able to watch or bet on the game, but I was surprised that Steph is not playing tonight? And so it's easy to bet on the Bucks with a handicap here. But I do agree that the Warriors shows in this fight and gave Milwaukee a good run in this game. It's good to see the Klay Thompon's shooting slump is over now as he had back to back games that he is shooting good.

Podziemski is another good acquisition from the Warriors, he is like Donte last year for them. But they need to be healthy all the way, Splash Brothers and then the whole team playing as a unit. CP3 though is out for the next 5-6 weeks if I'm not mistaken so that is a big factor for them entering the 1st half of the season. Hopefully he will be back after the All-Star break for a final push for a playoff spot.

And so the Lakers continue their losing streak against the the Jazz.
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January 14, 2024, 02:16:53 AM
It could be different though, but what if without Thanasis Giannis will not be Giannis and will demand a trade? I think speaking about blackmailing here, it's not Thanasis who is playing the game, but Giannis, because he knows the management will do everything to keep him.

If Giannis demanded a trade just because his brother wasn't on the team, that would be selfish on his part. I mean, it wouldn't be good if Giannis manipulated and blackmailed the Bucks' management just to secure a roster spot for his brother.
I'm more than sure there are a lot of guys with good potential who lose the opportunity to get on the roster just because a player like Thanasis already takes the spot.

Maybe Giannis is not vocal but I believe the manage is very well aware that Giannis brother could affect his decision making, and they don't want to gamble on that. It maybe a bad decision as that spot could be given to the other player that is more deserving, but it is what it is now, they know better than us, and they are in the business for so long, so anything that could be out of normal maybe normal for them, just to protect their biggest investment.

Milwaukee Bucks won today but the Golden State Warriors without Stephen Curry gave them a hard time to take the win. Klay Thompson found his rhythm and there's Kuminga who had been showing a phenomenal performance every game. Then there's Brandin Podziemski who tied his career high of 23 points. But, that's not enough to defeat the trio of the Bucks.

It's really different if Curry is playing as the Warriors could use Curry in the clutch. 4th quarter is the most important one, and this guy, the Bucks outscored the Warriors, resulting to their defeat.

Honestly, I didn't even expect that the Warriors will play that well without Curry, or maybe the Bucks are just kind of overrated team now?
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January 14, 2024, 12:42:17 AM
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That's how the Bucks valued Giannis that even his brother get signed just to retain Giannis. With the contract extention he signed last year, that could also mean that Thanasis will continue to be with the team for a while. Besides, if I am in charge on the Bucks to sign a players, I would still do the same as Giannis is still on his prime and he is making the Bucks a championship team.
It's funny because Giannis demanded a better roster before the contract extension but he still wants to keep the useless Thanasis? He was instrumental in that championship run but he has to stop "blackmailing" the management.

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It does not only happen with the Bucks, as team like Miami Heat had signed player that aren't even playing at all. If you still remember Udonis Haslem, he's been with the Heat as part of the roster but we didn't even see him play, but that was before he announced his retirement last year.

Udonis Haslem, NBA's oldest player, retires from Heat after 20 seasons
It's a completely different case. This is like Heat paying tribute to Haslem's past contributions. What's Thanasis done for the Bucks to deserve that spot?

Thanasis as almost everyone would agree is the bargaining chip that Milwaukee are using to keep Giannis, it's neither ethical nor professional, but I'd say if the organization believe that's what keeping their biggest assets' head in the game and are fine with it then I mean it's their decision, what is Robin Lopez doing on the roster as well ? and It's not as though Thanasis is on a relevant pay, I will probably his getting paid to be the team's and his brother's biggest cheer leader courtside.

I wouldn't blame Giannis for the Bucks decision to keep Thansis, they're not obligated to do so, If they can't make a decision of waiving Thanasis because how Giannis would feel or take it, then it's the management's fault not that of Giannis, because for all we know Thanasis is making less than 5% of Giannis is earning, and who knows if Thanasis contract is behind the scene at the expense of Giannis' and Thanasis is only getting paid from what could have been a potential addition to Giannis' deal (I'm not sure if such a thing exist NBA, but if players like Lebron and KD have reportedly being said to call the shots on players who should get traded in their own team, I won't be surprised Thanasis part of Giannis' contract with the Bucks).
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January 13, 2024, 11:38:40 PM
It could be different though, but what if without Thanasis Giannis will not be Giannis and will demand a trade? I think speaking about blackmailing here, it's not Thanasis who is playing the game, but Giannis, because he knows the management will do everything to keep him.

If Giannis demanded a trade just because his brother wasn't on the team, that would be selfish on his part. I mean, it wouldn't be good if Giannis manipulated and blackmailed the Bucks' management just to secure a roster spot for his brother.
I'm more than sure there are a lot of guys with good potential who lose the opportunity to get on the roster just because a player like Thanasis already takes the spot.
Maybe it will be a different scenario now. He already helped his brother make a lot of money and if they are good at managing it perhaps letting him decide where to go from there should be the new option. It's not like that dude is a bad player. He is still a big man that can be used by other teams for bench rebounders and I think other teams will be willing to make him an offer.

Milwaukee Bucks won today but the Golden State Warriors without Stephen Curry gave them a hard time to take the win. Klay Thompson found his rhythm and there's Kuminga who had been showing a phenomenal performance every game. Then there's Brandin Podziemski who tied his career high of 23 points. But, that's not enough to defeat the trio of the Bucks. 3 players, Giannis, Dame, and Middleton all scored beyond 20 points but it was Middleton who put the dagger to win the game, he was shooting lights out and had been playing like an All-Star once again.
Still, Steve Kerr must be happy that his bench showed well today, there was even a time when they got the lead so he must be satisfied with what happened although they lost.
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January 13, 2024, 11:23:11 PM
It could be different though, but what if without Thanasis Giannis will not be Giannis and will demand a trade? I think speaking about blackmailing here, it's not Thanasis who is playing the game, but Giannis, because he knows the management will do everything to keep him.

If Giannis demanded a trade just because his brother wasn't on the team, that would be selfish on his part. I mean, it wouldn't be good if Giannis manipulated and blackmailed the Bucks' management just to secure a roster spot for his brother.
I'm more than sure there are a lot of guys with good potential who lose the opportunity to get on the roster just because a player like Thanasis already takes the spot.
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January 13, 2024, 09:12:52 PM
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It does not only happen with the Bucks, as team like Miami Heat had signed player that aren't even playing at all. If you still remember Udonis Haslem, he's been with the Heat as part of the roster but we didn't even see him play, but that was before he announced his retirement last year.

Udonis Haslem, NBA's oldest player, retires from Heat after 20 seasons
It's a completely different case. This is like Heat paying tribute to Haslem's past contributions. What's Thanasis done for the Bucks to deserve that spot?
It could be different though, but what if without Thanasis Giannis will not be Giannis and will demand a trade? I think speaking about blackmailing here, it's not Thanasis who is playing the game, but Giannis, because he knows the management will do everything to keep him.
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January 13, 2024, 02:21:33 PM
Poor Scoot Henderson. He just set a record for the lowest two game +/- with a -83. It’s definitely not his year. I hope he gets it figured out. Probably the biggest bust of all time as it stands now.
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January 13, 2024, 09:16:20 AM
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That's how the Bucks valued Giannis that even his brother get signed just to retain Giannis. With the contract extention he signed last year, that could also mean that Thanasis will continue to be with the team for a while. Besides, if I am in charge on the Bucks to sign a players, I would still do the same as Giannis is still on his prime and he is making the Bucks a championship team.
It's funny because Giannis demanded a better roster before the contract extension but he still wants to keep the useless Thanasis? He was instrumental in that championship run but he has to stop "blackmailing" the management.

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It does not only happen with the Bucks, as team like Miami Heat had signed player that aren't even playing at all. If you still remember Udonis Haslem, he's been with the Heat as part of the roster but we didn't even see him play, but that was before he announced his retirement last year.

Udonis Haslem, NBA's oldest player, retires from Heat after 20 seasons
It's a completely different case. This is like Heat paying tribute to Haslem's past contributions. What's Thanasis done for the Bucks to deserve that spot?
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January 13, 2024, 08:42:39 AM

This is why NEPOTISM is a bad thing. Cheesy

Thanasis is playing like he's even worse than a G-league player. I just don't know why the Bucks are still choosing to sign him. Maybe because of Giannis? He's like the "Tacko Fall of the Celtics" where whenever he's playing, fans are cheering about him when in fact, he might be one of the worst players in the league right now. Cheesy Anyway, he will continue to be a laughingstock in the league for some time. I guess it's good so that the fans will be more entertained.  Grin Grin

There is no "maybe because of his brother" in the Thanasis question.
It is very well known that he is only signed with the Bucks to give Giannis a family member in the organisation.

When Giannis came to the league he was very home sick and missed his family. He was actually almost ready to leave Milwaukee and return to Greece at that time because he felt so bad.
Once they got the visa for his family to visit him it became better but family is and was always a very big factor for him.
And to keep him happy the Bucks would do anything, even giving up a valuable roster spot.

Obviously Thanasis doesn't have the talent to even come from the bench in the NBA, he wouldn't even start at a good team in Europe.
Even Kostas, who I think is a slightly better player than Thanasis, only averages around 7 points for Panathinaikos in the Greek league and 3 points in the Euroleague. That should tell everything.


That's how the Bucks valued Giannis that even his brother get signed just to retain Giannis. With the contract extention he signed last year, that could also mean that Thanasis will continue to be with the team for a while. Besides, if I am in charge on the Bucks to sign a players, I would still do the same as Giannis is still on his prime and he is making the Bucks a championship team.

It does not only happen with the Bucks, as team like Miami Heat had signed player that aren't even playing at all. If you still remember Udonis Haslem, he's been with the Heat as part of the roster but we didn't even see him play, but that was before he announced his retiremenet last year.

Udonis Haslem, NBA's oldest player, retires from Heat after 20 seasons
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January 13, 2024, 08:22:36 AM

This is why NEPOTISM is a bad thing. Cheesy

Thanasis is playing like he's even worse than a G-league player. I just don't know why the Bucks are still choosing to sign him. Maybe because of Giannis? He's like the "Tacko Fall of the Celtics" where whenever he's playing, fans are cheering about him when in fact, he might be one of the worst players in the league right now. Cheesy Anyway, he will continue to be a laughingstock in the league for some time. I guess it's good so that the fans will be more entertained.  Grin Grin

There is no "maybe because of his brother" in the Thanasis question.
It is very well known that he is only signed with the Bucks to give Giannis a family member in the organisation.

When Giannis came to the league he was very home sick and missed his family. He was actually almost ready to leave Milwaukee and return to Greece at that time because he felt so bad.
Once they got the visa for his family to visit him it became better but family is and was always a very big factor for him.
And to keep him happy the Bucks would do anything, even giving up a valuable roster spot.

Obviously Thanasis doesn't have the talent to even come from the bench in the NBA, he wouldn't even start at a good team in Europe.
Even Kostas, who I think is a slightly better player than Thanasis, only averages around 7 points for Panathinaikos in the Greek league and 3 points in the Euroleague. That should tell everything.
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January 13, 2024, 08:00:50 AM
No Embiid, no problem for Sixers. Harris and Maxey play at All-Star level. Batum is on fire behind 3-pt line. Paul Reed is pretty good at both offense and defense. Even rotation players like Pat Bev and Mo Bamba were good. Fox and Sabonis are unrecognizable tonight. It's gonna be an easy win for Sixers after three losses in a row.
TBH, I don't see the Sixers playing better without Embiid.
Yes, they won against the Kings just because the Kings' core players were having a bad night. All 5 starters of the Kings are on minus. Sabonis is -20, Fox is -25, and even Monk who's a good role player is -15 as well. Their next 3 games will be against Houston, Denver, and Orlando, and these teams are above .500 currently. They need Embiid in order to win in this games. My 2 cents only. Smiley

The trending Thanasis flop. LOL. Everyone is starting to believe that he's there on the Bucks just because of his brother, Giannis. But he was drafted by the New York Knicks, right? it seems that he's playing always like a joke and based on his percentage stats per game, the people's thought about him being on the Bucks so Giannis won't move to another team looks like a binding contract.  Grin
I just can't stop laughing whenever I see discussions about this guy but hey he's part of the champion ring on 2021. While their other brother Kostas was also a champ too with the Lakers.
This is why NEPOTISM is a bad thing. Cheesy

Thanasis is playing like he's even worse than a G-league player. I just don't know why the Bucks are still choosing to sign him. Maybe because of Giannis? He's like the "Tacko Fall of the Celtics" where whenever he's playing, fans are cheering about him when in fact, he might be one of the worst players in the league right now. Cheesy Anyway, he will continue to be a laughingstock in the league for some time. I guess it's good so that the fans will be more entertained.  Grin Grin
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January 13, 2024, 07:23:30 AM
CP3 is more likely to be traded by the GSW. It seems that he's not effective at all with the team and they need more of a big man aside from Draymond.
Yes, plus he is already an injury prone player. However, there's a big question here, since his current value is declining, not anymore at sync with the amount he is making, and we know he is earing a huge yearly salary, so is there any team that would be willing to trade their players for an old CP3?

Maybe Cp3 will be traded but the Warriors won't be able to star player in return, probably 2 or 3 role players would make the deal to be a "go".
We will see.

But that's what I think that they're about to do since it seems that they've got bunch of guards and they need to upsize through other positions.

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Speaking of Dray, there is a possibility that he might get traded, right?

Not sure with that, Dray maybe a problem due to his anger issue, a dirty player but his performance are not declining. They need a player like him who could make the team play with high confidence, and we know how effective Draymond is as a leader (less dirty plays).

Actually, I am already seeing a good sign on his return as I already saw him in the couple of games where he is on the bench supporting the team. So most probably, the league or the GSW had already disciplined him, or whatever their agreement is to merit a comeback.
I guess that it won't happen then since his connection with the key players is at best shape and that's what the GSW is going to protect for their own legacies.

Anyway, I wish him whole recovery and best of luck to his games.
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CP3 is more likely to be traded by the GSW. It seems that he's not effective at all with the team and they need more of a big man aside from Draymond.
Yes, plus he is already an injury prone player. However, there's a big question here, since his current value is declining, not anymore at sync with the amount he is making, and we know he is earing a huge yearly salary, so is there any team that would be willing to trade their players for an old CP3?

Maybe Cp3 will be traded but the Warriors won't be able to star player in return, probably 2 or 3 role players would make the deal to be a "go".

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Speaking of Dray, there is a possibility that he might get traded, right?

Not sure with that, Dray maybe a problem due to his anger issue, a dirty player but his performance are not declining. They need a player like him who could make the team play with high confidence, and we know how effective Draymond is as a leader (less dirty plays).

Actually, I am already seeing a good sign on his return as I already saw him in the couple of games where he is on the bench supporting the team. So most probably, the league or the GSW had already disciplined him, or whatever their agreement is to merit a comeback.
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January 13, 2024, 06:26:37 AM
Nearing the trade deadline,

there are many speculation about trading Wiggins and maybe they are just working quietly with the team that they are
targeting to negotiate the trade, another one is CP3, not sure but i also seeing some social post regarding to possibility that
they are placing CP3 to trade negotiation.
CP3 is more likely to be traded by the GSW. It seems that he's not effective at all with the team and they need more of a big man aside from Draymond.

Speaking of Dray, there is a possibility that he might get traded, right?

In terms of Lakers, not really sure if how they will work with the Hawks knowing that Murray's value might be more than what they can
offer for the team, let see if how this trade deadline will change the face of this season.
We'll just be surprised with their announcements soon.
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January 13, 2024, 05:43:09 AM

I think it's bound to happen, there will be trades in the Warriors as we near the trade deadline, as the saying goes, if there's fire, there's smoke. It could be Kuminga or Wiggins for Siakal but we will see what is the package will be.

Same with the Lakers, they are actively pursuing Dejonte Murray as well from the Hawks, and rumours says that package will not include Austin Reaves? Gonna be a shocker if this is true as Austin could be their 3rd offensive option.

Nearing the trade deadline,

there are many speculation about trading Wiggins and maybe they are just working quietly with the team that they are
targeting to negotiate the trade, another one is CP3, not sure but i also seeing some social post regarding to possibility that
they are placing CP3 to trade negotiation.
CP3 and Wiggins on the trading block? It make sense though since both players are not really contributing big time to the team, and yet they are paid with a huge salary. I think the big 3 of the Warriors is enough to lead the team, and what they should focus now is acquiring more players that would help their problem especially on the defensive end.

CP3 + Wiggins, if they'll trade him, that would welcome plenty of players, or one superstar and a bunch of role players.

In terms of Lakers, not really sure if how they will work with the Hawks knowing that Murray's value might be more than what they can
offer for the team, let see if how this trade deadline will change the face of this season.

I don't know, maybe reaves + D'Angelo Russell will work?
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I think it's bound to happen, there will be trades in the Warriors as we near the trade deadline, as the saying goes, if there's fire, there's smoke. It could be Kuminga or Wiggins for Siakal but we will see what is the package will be.

Same with the Lakers, they are actively pursuing Dejonte Murray as well from the Hawks, and rumours says that package will not include Austin Reaves? Gonna be a shocker if this is true as Austin could be their 3rd offensive option.

Nearing the trade deadline,

there are many speculation about trading Wiggins and maybe they are just working quietly with the team that they are
targeting to negotiate the trade, another one is CP3, not sure but i also seeing some social post regarding to possibility that
they are placing CP3 to trade negotiation.

In terms of Lakers, not really sure if how they will work with the Hawks knowing that Murray's value might be more than what they can
offer for the team, let see if how this trade deadline will change the face of this season.
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